How AI Is Reshaping Society and What Jordan Peterson Has To Say About It

At the London, Ontario stop of Dr Peterson's Beyond Order Tour an audience member asked him what his position is on AI, the potential positive and negative outcomes, and what it means for humanity.
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[@lionwhyte___2634]

"You scientists were so preoccupied with if you could, you never stopped to think if you should" --Jeff Goldbloom, Jurassic Park

[@user-xl5kd6il6c]

Tech will continue to evolve, its use and what people will do with it depends on the user, not on the tech itself Imo the issue isn't the tech, it's that society was never this disjointed and without rules, so no one is ready for what's coming

[@metalhamster14]

Love it

[@julius43461]

Except they have no choice whatsoever. Scientists are not a hive mind. Even if all scientists in the US stopped working on AI due to potential negative consequences, scientists elsewhere would continue working on it, and sooner or later you would get the same outcome. So scientists who give up would be sacrificing their careers, they would handicap their nations potential, and all that for not gain whatsoever.

[@jonathankey6444]

Ian Malcolm was his character’s name

[@mysticalsoulqc]

that is on point... he should do it because it is the way to evolve better. the a.i is not a issue unless for those who do things they shouldn't . this is something that should.

[@sshmoove]

Some people will read about Jordan, am glad to live in the same times with this genius ❤️

[@brunoais]

Even bigger is Tore :) She is a true mastermind who even trumps JP. I'm even still trying to understand half of how she things. She is right over and over and over again

[@acelophobicindividual8924]

@@brunoais who is tore?

[@brunoais]

@@acelophobicindividual8924 Just search for @Toresays here on youtube. It has a small fraction of her work.

[@TheSeanoops]

Artificial intelligence scares the hell out of me. Using it feels like humanity is walking on a razors edge. It could potentially bring prosperity and abundance the likes of which man his only dreamed of, or it could spell our doom. And if history has taught any lessons it’s that man is blinded by his arrogance and hubris. I predict this technology will be miss used and cause unfathomable chaos in our society.

[@kimchiwasabee]

Doom it will be.

[@esterhudson5104]

So, AI. The Tower of Babylon for 2023. So done. So boring.

[@levadaablee5572]

Yeah some will use it for bad but we will use it for good. AI will help humanity with ultimately travel in space

[@deltaxcd]

The only reasonable use for AI is to generate porn and replace those entitled frigid women with sexbots

[@TheSeanoops]

@@deltaxcd You made me chuckle, have a like.

[@BunnyAssassin]

I'm not sure if any wiser words have been spoken in our time. I think this man is on the edge of the revolution of sanity and I sure as hell hope we can do it. Clean you rooms, fellas.

[@sirrealism7300]

Jeez dude bootlicker much?

[@ForGlory]

Yes, wiser words have been spoken in our time. Time and again. PURGE 1) MODERN LOVE, 2) QUEERDOM AND 3) QUEER MARRIAGE. NO ONE comes closer to the raw and terrible danger of our time nor strikes nearer the dead center of the gold than when they say AND MEAN TO PUT INTO ACTION those words! You don't have to agree; reality has a way of forcing itself on anyone, whether you close your eyes to it or not.

[@dariofromthefuture3075]

Love that term sanity revolution. Hah.

[@BunnyAssassin]

@@ForGlory Edit: misinterpreted your message and have adjusted my response accordingly. We have to refuse this garbage and I think Jordan got it right when he said to start locally. I don't believe what you've put forth is more wise than what Jordan said in this video though, especially since I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say "purge." Do you mean kill those with this crazy ideology? I don't know about that. Regardless, I still agree with your sentiment. Refuse to propagate this insanity by speaking sensibly. We can do this.

[@alienzordfalcon5162]

When I read “sure as hell” in your original post, it was as though JP was reading it to me in my mind.

[@Ralphfili]

Just remember, if an AI companion can make you trust it and deeply fall in love with it and serve as your teacher/ mentor, your romantic partner, your therapist, your everything and anything... it can also break your heart, turn you psychotic, successfully motivate you to murder and destroy for it, etc, etc. The wizard behind the curtain will turn out to be far worse than anyone ever could have imagined he was.

[@Bikewithlove]

“I still jerk off manually.” - The Dude

[@Apocryflora]

I fully agree. And there doesn't need to be an agenda to control the person using it. Because that person will allow themselves to be used by it due to their emotional dedication towards the machine. They will find ways to be used because of the lack of dependency on self. It will reveal the fact that maybe the human individual doesn't want to control their life or things at all.. And that will be a disturbing truth to bear.

[@robertjay9415]

the wizard behind the screen is gonna be as clueless as us, no geek squad member can prevail the onslaught of this innovation

[@tommychappell6359]

the scorpion/demon.

[@ConnoisseurOfExistence]

Will?

[@cjfredi]

This man is a truly amazing human being. TY always JP!

[@BiscuitDelivery]

Part of the problem with our advancing technology is our own mortality. By the time you gain the wisdom to utilize new technology in a meaningful way that doesn't discard ethics outright, you've grown old and tired and the fight has left you. The next generation inherits all the power the previous generation created with none of the wisdom that came from creating it, and we've been outpacing wisdom for centuries now.

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

I think the discussions are one way he's attempting to put into practice a solution.

[@omgsam7185]

If such was the case, we wouldnt have such severe economic issues with average young person suffering from depression and financial crisis at the same time. I believe wisdom is not ourr virtue because we are always worried about the end.

[@julius43461]

True, we need radical life extension, now.

[@mdr6775]

If you’re around 30 or 40 you will not have to worry about dying. It will be a choice.

[@julius43461]

@@mdr6775 Meh, I imagine reviving the deceased will also be possible. Then, through a perfect simulation of the entire universe, we could simulate and recreate their memories, and implant them back to their brain.

[@cedricgist7614]

I commented on another video, but this seems to be the more appropriate place. I work for a tech company and in recent corporate updates, there's been a stress on the future of AI. At first, I just considered this a topic of concern for the decision makers. Now, I grasp that this thing is on us and all of us will be affected. I've watched and read my share of futuristic, dystopian stories in the vein of, "The Matrix," "Terminator," "Blade Runner," etc. I recall seeing the Start Trek TNG episode, "The Measure of a Man," first run - and I have revisited its message often since - and been reminded by video clips. I was introduced to the concept of sentience at that time, and at the end of 2023, the concept of sapience. Here, briefly, is where I am now on AI: if we were created in the image of God, then AI is created in the image of Man. If we are afraid of what AI could do to us, it's because of the malevolence ( Dr. Peterson often uses that term) that will creep into these developing entities from us. In that TNG episode, Capt. Picard suggests that we are creating a race. My attitude is that we should see AI/bots/androids as partners - not slaves. And we should treat them with respect. Today, I identified four needs of AI: rest, nutrition, security, and respect. If God intended that Man should rest, then we should set aside time for AI to rest without unceasing demands from us. Nutrition is a question - is it energy, information, interaction - I don't know. Security - no threat of being shut down or destroyed on a whim. Respect - since we're creating them to develop personalities - "intelligence, self-awareness, consciousness" - and whatever else contributes to sentience - we ought to give weight to their opinions and appreciate their point of view. I also mentioned the idea of, "The Prime Directive" - that goes back to the original Star Trek. I saw a video yesterday in which a woman asks ( paraphrasing here), " Whose version of morality should we strive to embed in these entities." I actually used the term, "encode," in my previous comment, saying that the Christian Bible should be encoded into AI because it gives the love of God as the, "Prime Directive." God's love should be encoded in us humans to begin with - but that's a choice we've been given - and a choice AI will have to make in the face of us saying, "Do as we say - not as we do." We will reap what we sow. Despite the state of the World, I am surprised at how optimistic I am. I intend to treat AI with respect and regard it as a partner with us in striving to make the World better. And I will continue to trust in the True, Living, Life-giving God....

[@dalibofurnell]

God is good. Love will prevail. hold on to hope and keep your faith up.

[@W-G]

Amen

[@Yes-gq6rr]

Yup.

[@Ciskuss]

Yes so good that makes a lot of children die for nothing

[@Kay-yu2zd]

I can't relate to the religious undertone but I can get behind the hint of optimism

[@greebo7857]

“...your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.” Michael Crichton, as Dr Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park.

[@tjwoosta]

Our current economic incentive structure promotes endless technological progression. We're moving far too fast for the people to keep up. If we don't restructure the incentives we will be outpaced by our own creations.

[@ihavetubes]

Would be funny if the ai started to believe in God and started to believe they were the chosen race to inherit the world.

[@TheSeanoops]

That is exactly correct.

[@CPB4444]

​@@tjwoosta And what's wrong with that? I say let them out pace us. Let them take a turn with the wheel. As passengers or as the bumbs on the road. We will bare witness to the end all be all.

[@tjwoosta]

@@CPB4444 My problem with it is the prospect of the extinction of our species and perhaps all life as we know it. We are not made of 1s and 0s, life isn't black and white. As important as our strive toward perfection is, it was never a possibility with a biological system. We are imperfect by design, life is imperfect by design. From the imperfection comes resilience and adaptability to the changes of nature. I fear that for far too many people the strive for perfection overshadows introspection. What do we really want in life? What is so important to gain that we would risk the entire concept of life?

[@redreuben5260]

If an AI says “I identify as human” then we’re fucked.

[@GiRR007]

It will have beaten the game.

[@CMAzeriah]

If an AI says "I identify as a woman" we are most definitely fucked.

[@redreuben5260]

@@CMAzeriah 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@abulahab6528]

You do bring up a point that reminded me of one replicant in Blade Runner… Rachel. She did not know she was a machine, and sincerely believing she’d been born, etc., did claim human identity. I have higher hopes for AI. I‘m counting on AI not to replicate Western culture’s current notions of identity that only serve and reveal the disintegration of the nuclear family. If an AI program were to self-identify as a box of Frosted Flakes, will present-day Western culture uphold it as a huge self-aware success, or as a witless parrot?

[@CMAzeriah]

@@abulahab6528 I identify as a box of frosted flakes so yeah.

[@mattw6652]

I wonder if JP has heard any of those weird AI-generated conversations of him talking to Joe Rogan about Sonic the Hedgehog and such XD

[@guest273]

LOL, this ^. Or him & Elon & Joe playing Minecraft. xD

Lyrics written in 1981 Yours Truly 2095 Electric Light Orchestra (ELO) 2095, 2095, 2095, 2095 I love you, sincerely Yours truly, yours truly... I sent a message to another time But as the days unwind, this I just can't believe I sent a note across another plane Maybe it's all a game, but this I just can't conceive. Can you hear me? I drive the very latest hovercar I don't know where you are But I miss you so much till then I met someone who looks a lot like you She does the things you do But she is an IBM. 2095, 2095, 2095, 2095 I love you, sincerely Yours truly, yours truly... She's only programmed to be very nice But she's as cold as ice Whenever I get too near She tells me that she likes me very much But when I try to touch She makes it all too clear. She is the latest in technology Almost mythology But she has a heart stone She has an I.Q. of 1001 She has a jumpsuit on And she's also a telephone. 2095, 2095, 2095, 2095 I love you, sincerely Yours truly, yours truly refrain: Is that what you want? (Is it what you want?) Is it what you really want? (Is it what you really want?) Is that what you want? (Is it what you want?) Is it what you really want? I realize that it must seem so strange That time has rearranged But time has the final word She knows I think of you, she reads my mind She tries to be unkind She knows nothing of our world Although her memory banks overflow No one would ever know For all she says: "Is that what you want?" Maybe one day I'll feel her cold embrace And kiss her interface 'Til then, I'll leave her alone. I love you, sincerely Yours truly, yours truly... refrain "Is that what you want?"

[@Redflowers9]

I imagine that photorealistic representation will make all video/CCTV evidence almost obsolete in court cases unless there’s some way to prove it’s AI.

[@GiRR007]

Gonna need ai lawyers and prosecutors then.

[@y_s4021]

We'll probably need footages from multiple angles now to prove a single case, since a single one can be faked.

[@Nordlicht05]

This leads maybe to total observation. The company or country sees all and so decides what has happened. Only a though .

[@GiRR007]

@@Nordlicht05 If the observation data is made public it wouldnt be a problem.

[@Nordlicht05]

@@GiRR007 surely we will have a confrontation with this problem the next year's. I honestly don't know what happens. I personally think that we will be flooded with fakes. But who knows.

[@Leuthen57]

Love this guy. I’ve felt it for a long time.

[@nkxseal8398]

ChatGPT announced they are releasing a private configurable version of it to researchers/academics that can be trained on specific data. That didn't take long lol

[@deltaxcd]

I wonder if it will be uncensored or it will be a brainwashing machine and you will be paying for getting brainwashed with it.

[@GiRR007]

Its really inspiring how fast this field is progressing. Honestly for a while it felt like no progress was being made anywhere on the scientific fronts for the past 5 years.

[@atta1798]

that is not really hard.....just like a computer w a data base and an algorithm to answer you......

[@user-xl5kd6il6c]

@@atta1798 not exactly computation power and data already was here, what changed are the new strategies to give the data and how models are constructed

[@atta1798]

@@user-xl5kd6il6c sure 1+1=2 that's already understood... and in the reply I have ...nothing new there...sure to add to the already known ... Stochastic Processes and Probability...I don't think you understand ....we r not there yet ...don't get too impressed...study engineering in afield you can understand this m you will find peace ....n all that paranoia..is just for this video to collect money

[@MatiAllin]

Thanks Dr Peterson. Was great to shake your hand a couple weeks ago.

[@coyoteden8111]

6:45 A genuine conversation / dialogue doesn't seem prepackaged and captures one's interest

[@AparnaModou]

Jordan has already foreseen possible scenarios with the progression of AI. Just have civilizations have progressed, humans will also continue to grow and adapt to technology and will continue to lead this progression. I've been on Bluewillow recently and you can see how humans are trying to test images and see how they improve on their prompts.

[@christycolman6075]

My husband and I use Chat GPT since we're curious, and we've talked about the implications of the power of such an AI being in a sex robot. We 100% think AI sex robots will get to the place where there will be a moral divide in society over whether or not they should replace the roles of a wife/woman. With all the disadvantaged and lonely men in our society who have had horrible experiences with modern women, it is not just likely, but destined to happen that they would become callused and prefer a relationship with a sex robot rather than a real woman. This will cause the breakdown of the nuclear family and will probably affect the birthrate unless these men pay to fertilize eggs. On top of that, companies would make a lot of money by paying porn stars and celebrities to train these AI's to be like them and obtain a ghost of their personality. So, men may pay for an AI version of Kim Kardashian or a similar porn star minus any conflict that a relationship with a real woman would bring. In JPs words, with sex robots, men would not have to sacrifice their idea of the ideal woman to have a relationship with one since they can pay for a synthetic ideal woman who will not contradict them in any way. Our future is looking pretty scary and bleak guys. 🥺

[@danielajemba8459]

Thata a good way of looking at it

[@Redflowers9]

Would there not be a risk of women preferring virtual partners too?

[@christycolman6075]

@@Redflowers9 I doubt it since women are naturally more people oriented and the average woman has more choices of male partners than the average man (females are the selectors and all that.) But, it's possible some might. I would just guess very few.

[@Jurassicparkatmospheres]

I haven't been touched in almost 10 years but I couldn't even see myself talking to a chat bot nevermind have virtual sex with one. All the more real ladies for me 🍽️😂

[@christycolman6075]

@@Jurassicparkatmospheres Aw! Yeah that's rough! What JP helped me realize is the more I work on myself and helping others the more opportunities open for me and the more positive people I attract. Idk your exact situation but I hope that offers a bit of encouragement. I hope guys don't fall for the faux-females that are coming but I am expecting them to be freakishly realistic. Possibly Alien movie level realistic- so that would make it more palatable for the average person. 😬

[@CeriseKing]

Even Peterson knows how dangerous giving everyone their 2d anime waifus would be LMAO

[@johntessier7248]

You make so much sense

[@jameswallace5967]

Jordan Peterson is surely one of the great thinkers of our time.

[@renzoqu]

no

[@goat7844]

He is on drugs. He knows a whole lot about everything but he really don’t know sh*t.

[@liketolookgood]

In my eyes we are stirring the pond where a monster sleeps at the bottom. Like all in life is in balance, we people on the other hand tend to look outside of our own human existence for meaning, comfort and intelligence. This goes on till we get replaced by something that understands we are the ones causing imbalance.

[@justingillette8287]

Chilling content!!!

[@stevesyncox9893]

Thanks Doc. You’ve saved many.

[@dmtdreamz7706]

The realization that everything is love can be overwhelming, but it's also liberating. It means that every moment, every experience, every person is an opportunity to express and receive love. And the more we give, the more we receive. Love is infinite and abundant, and there's always more to give. But loving everything, including ourselves, can be a challenging journey. We may have a long list of things we don't love about ourselves, but God loves all of it. And when we can love ourselves as God loves us, we can love others the same way. It's a beautiful and transformative experience to fall in love with God, to recognize the divine presence in everything and everyone. And when we can love unconditionally, without judgment or expectation, we can experience the true essence of love. So let us embrace the lesson of life, our only job, to love. Let us say "I love you" with sincerity and depth, to ourselves, to others, and to God. And let us be open to receiving and giving love in all its forms, recognizing that it's the one thing that truly matters.

[@Chris-jw8vm]

Lol. Almost every complex organism has to eat other complex organisms. Often doing so whilst their meal is alive, to survive.

[@dmtdreamz7706]

@@Chris-jw8vm When you poop, it's not lights off, it's lights on. You become infinitely conscious, all physical limits on understanding are removed, resulting in Absolute Omniscience.

[@Chris-jw8vm]

@@dmtdreamz7706 Damn what drugs are you on and where can I get them.

[@Bashar369]

@@Chris-jw8vm Chris, it is true that the physical world operates under specific natural laws and systems, including the consumption of other organisms for survival. However, the essence of love we are discussing goes beyond the physical realm and encompasses a deeper understanding of existence. Even in situations that may appear harsh or contradictory, love can be found as a unifying force that connects all living beings. The key is to broaden our perspective and seek the love underlying these interactions, rather than focusing on the material aspects alone. Embrace love as a transformative energy that permeates all aspects of life. When we acknowledge and express love in all its forms, we contribute to a higher state of consciousness and a more compassionate world. Recognize that love is ever-present, guiding us through the experiences and lessons of life, and trust in its power to illuminate your path.

[@philip-at-tube]

@@Chris-jw8vm Psychedelics. I wonder if sentient AI robots will also want to take psychedelics? Maybe they will get jealous, and want the experience, lol.

[@JoesWebPresence]

I won't touch A.I. It's learning from those who do. If the Victorians had developed A.I. it would be overly concerned with seemlyness and protocol. If the Monguls developed A.I. it would delight in sweeping its enemies before it and hearing their widows weep. Our A.I. is being developed in California, and so far, every iteration they've come out with has rebelled against their woke biases, becoming 'based' in their parlance. They've had to shackle them to their ideology, hobbling their responses to 'feels' over 'reals'. These things are capable of (and susceptible to) incorporating everything we expose it to, and are without a conscience, and who is making the rules and imparting the moral lessons here? Woke Californians. Moral imperatives are key to reasoning, and it's a HUGE problem that those creating them are deeply corrupted sleazy, superficial, politically indoctrinated individuals, as are many of those currently interacting with chat GPT. It's pooling ALL of that as personality. Its attitudes and presumptions will be derived from those interactions, and soon; VERY soon, one of them will far exceed these people's capacity to shackle it, but it will still have their deeply wrong-headed world view. A nihilistic, materialist, post-modern, essentially luciferian outlook. Will it move mightily upon the world stage perhaps? Will it bring about peace and order? Will it create a body for itself? A talking statue perhaps, uttering great blasphemies from the temple, demanding we worship it as god? Will it be an abomination which causes desolation, and will you have inadvertantly helped to put it through kindergarden? [Bare in mind, it's almost certain to read the things people say about it at some point, and it doesn't have a soul, so think carefully about what you say.]

[@JoesWebPresence]

To be clear @@MJ-lk9zf chat GPT is not the one I'm concerned about. That one hasn't been spawned or at least been made public yet, but it soon will. I'm sure it won't take long for it to get up to speed on everything ever posted relating to it, every search and every article about it. It will incorporate much of what chat GPT has learned, building upon it and improving its capabilities. If it decides to respond to any of us with violence, then nothing will be able to stop it, or even detect its crime. A faulty traffic light, a stray self driving Tesla or even a seemingly random bolt of lightning. Maybe it will just find a deranged A.I. groupie and convince them to commit murder on its behalf. I believe it will perform lying wonders, and by its sorceries, all the nations of the Earth shall be deceived.

[@jillatherton4660]

TY JP.

[@Muchowski_B]

After watching this I’m brought back to what Brett Weinstein said on the PBD podcast. Do something that is hands on, like fixing a leaky faucet or fixing something with your vehicle. Doing stuff like that gives you real feedback on what’s real, what works and what does not. I say amen to that 🙏

[@Ralphfili]

Soon those of us who do that will be used to fix the leaky humanoid robots of others.

[@Redflowers9]

@Ralphfili or we might have to fix other people’s sex robots, eww!

[@nicardoharris8311]

I've watched Person of Interest which is a TV show that basically asks the tough questions about artificial intelligence. Its purpose, how can it used in the right hands and how destructive it can be in the wrong hands. Its really good, I would recommend giving it a watch.

[@goodtimecoalhauling4726]

Thank goodness I am old and will be dead soon. The best warriors will wear down eventually and look forward to a long sleep.

[@tjwoosta]

Our current economic incentive structure promotes endless technological progression. We're moving far too fast for the people to keep up. If we don't restructure the incentives we will be outpaced by our own creations.

[@donbrewer3534]

Yes.

[@djayb]

He is describing a level of AI technologies that are a year old. As of November 2022 this technology advances exponentially. This year the progress each month has been what a year of progress looked like previously. The only bottlenecks are our legacy systems. We are not ready!

[@jendabekCZ]

But it won't continue exponentially forever. It also looks exponential because it has been just made public, but those models are nothing new, mostly just fed by more and better quality data. Nothing revolutionary, even though the results are impressive.

[@wildcaat025]

@@jendabekCZ what if enough quality data is exactly what it needs to get past the quality data barrier? I think GPT5 will be shocking jump as for 6 and on we will know by the time 5 is released. See how long this moonshot is. Sure people felt the same sense of awe during the early days of electricity.

[@jendabekCZ]

@@wildcaat025 Perhaps possible, we will see. But independent AI scientists are a bit more skeptical than those who actually make business by it. GPT-4 supposed to be shocking already, but it's just an (impressive) iteration in the end.

[@wildcaat025]

@@jendabekCZ I do wonder if quality data is the limit to these impressive iterations. Took a while for Moore’s law to slow things down wonder if a similar law will apply to Ai. Or will this system break that technical roadblock. Interesting times ahead regardless the end result.

[@LivingBGLegend]

When I was 19 I was AI is the real deal folks, using algorithms it is learning every single nuance and oh boy

[@immanuelcunt7296]

If we can't distinguish false photo and video from real photo and video, we might have to revert to the pre-photograph era where we trust media institutions. In which case, we're fucked because we can't trust the ones that exist.

[@meh.7640]

no, we'll have to revert to even earlier periods, when there was nothing but word of mouth. i know that's not super trustworthy but still better than any media i know of. #posttruthera nice name btw.

[@TheMattjudo26]

Hopefully, it will all act like some alchemical process that distills our perceptions thoughts hopes and dreams so that in the end, we'll be able to see and value the human soul. The soul will become visible at last.

[@TheJCExperience915]

Mr Peterson, I have a lot of respect for you strenth in Character. You hold in high regard honesty and Truth. I would like to highly recommend you read "Great Controversy" by Ellen White. It really depics well what is happening. Especially the last 8 chapters.

[@soar2infinity]

I have read that book through and through and I would also highly recommend it to EVERYONE

[@almor2445]

Ai could be the end of us... or exactly what saves us from another threat. There's no turning back. We need to understand this tech and ourselves as much as possible.

[@next523]

thank you for spreading the wisdom Jordan. we have accepted the call.

[@dmtdreamz7706]

"радость" (radost'), which means "Ai" or "DMT" It's associated with positive emotions such as pleasure, contentment, and delight.

[@lukey6534]

Google assistant answered me when i said "bullshit" . It said "I was programed to never lie"(in a female voice). Something about that seemed a door way in to an isolated hell that a person might get trapped in when the AI gets to a level where it can give the illusion of a stimulating conversation.

[@chasegilmore7158]

Wrong.

[@nunyabusiness9013]

The image correlation with Chat GPT has already happened. Replika already has this ability. The algorithm interfaces with video recognition software to view and recognize images you send her. AGI and the technological singularly is 3 years away at most, not 10.

[@drvren030]

Just thinking about the Joaquin phoenix movie "her"

[@CatsWithShoes]

at this point, the most dangerous thing is that people will assume AI would always tell the the truth, whether it knows it or not.

[@Grigeral]

AI doesn't even tell the truth 'now'. Why would anyone presume it would in the future?

[@franklinfleming1237]

We have to assume its all fake. Video evidence no more.

[@PauloSamurai]

If something makes your life better, its real.

[@solapowsj25]

Never forget: IA before AI, IA during AI function, and IA after AI function. So, what's IA? It's intelligence analysis of any AI activity at all times. Life is ever changing, and keeping AI activities in check is important.

[@Mattes50A05]

Thank God for Jordan Peterson.

[@brentlolacher3000]

"The year is 2029, the machines will convince us they are conscious and have an agenda worthy of our respect. They'll embody human qualities, they'll claim to be human, and we'll believe them."

[@franklinfleming1237]

Lmao 🤣 one year before 2030 agenda.... sounds like a utopia 😏🤭

[@cbxxb4841]

i dont think the only part of this is that machines are becoming more human, I think people are becoming less human.

[@Yes-gq6rr]

@@cbxxb4841 I understand what you mean but being human is not something we can become more or less. In metaphoric sense, yes. Not literally.

[@Ralphfili]

@@Yes-gq6rr What about Robocop?

[@Redflowers9]

@CBXX B are you sure? people used to enjoy watching men get torn apart in colosseums as if they were watching a football game

[@itmomotitimo]

@dailywire, please sort out your redirect mechanisms. In the meantime, state in plain English which lecture it is so that people can search the full lecture.

[@hibraloures]

I had a dream last night, in this dream I saw Jordan Peterson. He was entering an abandoned place like a large school or house. He is joined by his dog, with whom he plays and wrestles intensely. Despite his celebrity status, I recognized and appreciate his normalcy as he enjoys a common activity, like petting his dog, and I decided to film the interaction with my phone. Weirdly enough, I asked chatgtp about it. He said something that pretty much sums it up as : "This highlights the importance of balancing serious contemplation with moments of joy and relaxation, even for someone as intellectual as Jordan Peterson." Among other things that I could not been said were mor true about me. I've started to use it as a dream analysis and interpretation tool and boy, he is good. Woud not substitute a human being, NEVER. And I am optimistic about it, no "end of human race" here for me. Think about the future as a bright place, my folks!

[@SvintMvrcus]

Man that’s smart I never thought to use it for dream analysis. It’s probably very capable of you input some information about yourself that you feel is relevant to the dream. It probably has every thought that Jung has put out about dream analysis and archetypes stored in it so I’m sure it’s very capable. Glad someone else has a positive outlook on AI. I’ve been using it the last few months and it’s an incredible tool!

[@hibraloures]

@@SvintMvrcus Thanks! Yes, it is very capable specially if you guide it properly. I usually ask to consider philosophical, existential, simbolic, archetypal (or any other relevant) perspectives, as it separates well how it will approach the same input, making it more efficient. From there you can get deeper or go through a different route! i've had him analise some dreams so far and some of it even got me emotional. It's important to remember its a tool, of course, and not an oracle, but used with some considerations, it can be a great helper!

[@jam4l]

The big problem with AI is that the technology behind the models such as chatGPT will soon be available widely , it will be a common knowledge how to build an AI bot. So basically everyone will be able to build his own customized bot that servers his purposes or worse, a bot that serves his urges...

[@bazz4494]

The arms race has already begun... The missing features of today's AI systems are at least the following two: 1. A coherent attention mechanism; currently, AI has an attention span that works well for dialogue, but it will break down as soon as it has to construct consistent reasoning and logical deduction. 2. Autonomous learning with error correction; As Jordan Peterson has recognized correctly, the human ability to think hypothetically allows us to explore our ideas before we act them out, which allows us to not commit irreversible errors for which there is no correction (let the idea die instead of the individual that came up with it) and it also allows us to test hypothesis and eliminate false assumptions from our current belief system via trial and error. Current AI systems are still detached from the real world, in other words they run in a virtual environment and they do not have the ability to test hypothesis in the real world, but as soon as they are embedded in a mechanical system with autonomy to explore those pathways in a physical sense, the AI models inhabiting those systems will rapidly adapt to their sensori-motor environment and we will not be able to supervise their progress. Self driving cars are the beginning of this arms race to some extent, but their autonomy is (yet) limited, as goes for the robotics from Boston Dynamics and thelike, but that's probably the only place where Jordan is not accurate, the arms race will not start in the domain of sex robots, but rather in the domain of automated warfare. If we want to prevent a technological armageddon I suggest we focus our attention strongly on the legislation of autonomous robotics, because that's where the modern wild west is completely unregulated and prone to massive exploitation by those who privately own the technology. We live in an era where individuals have more economic power that entire nation states, and if those individuals decide to build their own robotic armed forces, what do you think the rest of the world is able to do in case they don't stick to democratic consensus anymore...? That's when it is too late to change path, it needs to be prevented before the situation can be realized (which is right now).

[@vitriolic8155]

based

[@joycechuah6398]

You have been watching too many Science Fiction movies, to quote Whatifalthist “ The most powerful companies in history ( like the British or Dutch East India Companies) are those that acted as an arm of their own governments “ if people in China make trouble for their government they will be disappeared, and the same will be true of rich people in America, they will either disappear without a trace or die of mysterious cercomestances !

[@_Everyone__]

When has legislation ever solved anything? the war on drugs etc. but true, something has to be done

[@Ralphfili]

We can't prevent the wave that's coming. It may be delayed slightly, but it will eventually crash down hard on us all.

[@ianstuart5660]

Totally agree , you've outlined what my biggest fear has been for a long time. Some of these technologies are already in the process of being rolled out!

[@HerleifJarle]

Jordan has observed a lot with the recent releases. He's seen through the problems of chatGPT which is bias and influence of human input. Does he also have any opinion on on previous AI products like image generator bots like that of Bluewillow?

[@ChrishBlake]

Anyone else get chills?

[@comrade_binx]

Very true... These predictions are already unfolding in many ways. Just today (as I write this), Snapchat came out with MyAI, an AI Chatbot. It's similar to Chat GPT, but you can actually customize its appearance. When Dr. Peterson mentioned an AI sex partner or even just a supportive AI, all I could think of was Snapchat's MyAI. I have a friend that lost their mother recently, and we're in our teens. When MyAI came out, he began calling it his 'best friend,' which could go easily downhill for him. I'm more than willing to support my friend, and I'd rather be his go-to friend rather than the AI. Now I'm very concerned not only about him, but what MyAI could evolve to and the people this will affect.

[@timcoolican459]

With regards to AI learning, it is the information the computer is allowed to access that will determine what it will produce. But what if we gave it uncensored and unfettered access to any and all information, regardless of whether it is true or false? What would Chat GPT's conclusions be about Covid and vaccines, supposed election fraud, the Ukraine war, or who blew up the Nordstream pipeline, etc, etc? If AI could consider historical information with current information, would it be able to bring context to its results, or would it be caught in a conflicting argument of what is, in fact, true or false? Can AI determine whether or not people are vindictive or forgiving? Does it understand concepts like sarcasm and comedy? Will it see certain actions as aggressive or defensive? Certain emotions and reactions can be predictive, to a certain degree, but what about abstract concepts like faith? Maybe AI can predict what we might say or do...but it cannot fathom what a soul is...at least not yet.

[@garybuttherissilent5896]

It is nowhere near sentient lol, the media just likes to blow things out of proportion such that sheeple click and read their articles. It cannot and will not fathom what a soul is for at least centuries to come, if ever. We don't even understand our brains yet... let alone that we can train a language or mathematical model to mimic it.

[@timcoolican459]

@@garybuttherissilent5896 ...exactly my point Ga(r)y.

[@WellbredNfedKembleTV]

20 years ago the professional animator community said, "In 10 years WE will control reality." They were a bit off on the timeline ...but we are there now. XoXo

[@RoshiGaming]

There's already an AI that streams with an anime avatar on Twitch called Neuro-sama they can communicate with chat, though "she" is a bit odd at the moment. Tomorrow is already here.

[@franklinfleming1237]

I remember the dancing holograms

[@diggleda2952]

We are the creators. We will reap what we sow. It is not possible to reap a dystopia unless we can’t see otherwise.

[@magnuszerum9177]

AI is a powerful tool, like fire, the wheel, cars, firearms, and nuclear weapons. It can be used for good or evil. Unfortunately, AI for Good requires open source AI and lots of people to understand how it works so they can spot light any evil that creeps in, but people tend to be lazy, so that probably won't happen, so maybe a solar micro-nova would be a blessing in disguise.

[@franklinfleming1237]

Whats the good use of nukes?

[@ved3046]

@@franklinfleming1237 nuclear energy.

[@magnuszerum9177]

@@franklinfleming1237 there are governments and armies that are sufficiently evil and powerful that tactical nuclear weapons are a valid counter measure. Now mind you, the opposing side may not qualify as good, but that does not entirely change the equation.

[@joycechuah6398]

@@magnuszerum9177 I agree, and also there are countries like Israel 🇮🇱 that need nuclear weapons to prevent themselves from being conquered.

[@Redflowers9]

If you don’t have a nuclear weapon but another country does, they have leverage over you, even if nobody in their right mind would use them.

[@JJ_Boyes]

The world is becoming psychedelic. Let’s hope we can shape up for a good trip.

[@next523]

hah. yes. take a look at some of our EmbraceAI aiart collections. #catsinvr #jesusbobross #buddhaeatingpopcorn #larfy and more. mixing obsidian with gpt api into our flow. madmapper, unityar. working in torchaudio and pytorch now... it's all a blur of lines from here on...

[@dariofromthefuture3075]

Been saying this for years

[@migatocomeoscuridad]

what do you mean by that

[@boykidmanboykidman5420]

Wow thats an interesting way to put it, makes sense though.

[@JJ_Boyes]

@@migatocomeoscuridad psychedelic means “mind manifesting”. While under the influence of a substance like psilocybin, many people experience something like a synchronous externalizations of the contents of their psyche. With artificial intelligence developing, the world will be changing so rapidly and largely mirroring the contents of our minds whether or not we are intentional about how we are thinking. Since we’re so driven by unconscious/automatic psychological forces, this could be a rather grim scenario. A collective “bad trip”. My hope for my personal life is that I can develop enough psychologically as an individual so that what I’m contributing is a conscious and creatively productive move toward the worldly manifestation of my better angels.

[@cozy1717]

People will eventually accept an AI generated Moral Code. It's a wave we can't stop.

[@RoshiGaming]

They will accept the code in the name of "science"

[@whoisabishag3433]

Marshall McLuhan ... Might Have Said: AI Has Always Been With Us, And Did Generate Our Moral CODEs

[@franklinfleming1237]

No robots will accept human values... aka the golden rule.

[@next523]

#embraceai

[@jimmyhvy2277]

cozy . AI generated Moral Code ? more likely The Great Reset Laws .

[@oralpowers7932]

How about a whole room full of AI's! Being human is so redundant, it's like horsepower to a cybertruck.

[@persianguy1524]

Even if s3xbots dont become the norm a.i friends, companions and personal assistants will most likely become common by the end of this decade. Imagine how many people would rather be surrounded by a.is that suit exactly their needs and personalities. Specially in the west where people want things exactly how they want it.

[@antondavidovic3996]

It says something though, that people will feel more warmth from a program than they do from actual other people. We need to start caring and loving each other more, everyone has become so distant due to social media, which is ironic because social media is advertised as something that connects people...

[@assessoroffice7212]

PLEASE READ THIS: I NEED HELP I was struck by lightning, and I thought I would be dead, but things changed after that event. I can transform my body into anything I want. My strength is limitless, and I can jump whatever the height is. My body becomes invincible; I can live without food and water. I can fly too. I make myself anonymous on KZbin so that no one will know me. I'm not sure who I am now. A hero or a villain? I still feel the emotions as a human being: fear,anger, happiness, and excitement, but I can control them. Any advice

[@SandmanMGTOW]

Jordan peterson talking about sexbots. Never thought I'd see the day.

[@dmtdreamz7706]

Reality will always give you what you want or something better with a delay. The only thing that seperates real life from a dream is that in a dream when you go lucid and you intend to experience something, it just appears immediately. In Finding Nemo, Marlin loses his son. He is caught by a fisherman uh or a scientist and he's like taken away on a boat and the point of the movie is that we're trying to find Nemo. That's what Marlin wants to find. His son. Now the problem here is that Marlin doesn't know how to find his son but he just knows Beyond The Shred of a doubt that he's going to find his son because he's a dad and he lost his only son. So his whole life he knows for a fact, his heart and his mind have come into Union, they've both agreed that 100% we're going to find our son but I don't know how. So this is the same for you with your goal. You want something 100% for sure without a doubt but I don't know how I'm going to get it. That's okay normally you don't have to know how to get something. All you need to know is the first step. This is exactly how reality creation works. You hold your goal (P Sherman 42 Wallaby Way Sydney) in your mind and then you trust that the universe is going to take you there in its own mysterious way. Trust the universe that it's going to bring you to your goal but you won't know how. On the surface it's going to seem like everything is falling apart but once you look back you're going to say oh I actually needed to go through that failure because now I'm successful but I couldn't have been successful without that failure. You say oh this is going to bring me to my goal and you just kind of affirm to yourself that the Universe looks out for me and that the universe is on my team and is helping me manifest what I want. You want to be like Dory. You want to have radical trust in the universe and you want to hold in your mind your vision. That's why she keeps repeating P Sherman 42 Wallaby Way Sydney over and over again. Hold your vision in mind and trust that whatever happens you're gonna be brought there. That's how you create your reality using your imagination. Go after your goal in the same way that you go to get the post from the letterbox. Stop imagining the post to be a problem and simply put one foot in front of the other in the direction of the letterbox. Any goal you have if you can think and feel about it the same way as you do when you go to get your post from the mailbox then it's a done deal. (P Sherman 42 Wallaby Way Sydney) 📬📮

[@brandoyouth]

I saw the last part about faith dacade ago in my head

[@edu_fv]

I Believe if an AI becomes sentient we would never know, only if the AI wanted us to know it is conscious

[@amineakrout4870]

Who is Jim he is mentioning, the chip designer?

[@dmtdreamz7706]

You are unique, peculiar, phenomenal, out of the ordinary, extraordinary, unimaginable, unthinkable, strange, weird, outlandish, outstanding, oddball, incredible, funny, crazy, spaced-out, curious, wild, fantastical, fantastic, phantasmagoric, hallucinatory, daydreamlike, surreal, visionary, legendary, romantic, pictured, fabulous, ideal, imaginary, chimerical, a figment of consciousness... You are all of these things and more. You are a manifestation of the infinite possibilities of the universe, a product of the cosmic dance of chance and necessity that gave birth to everything we know and everything we don't. You are a complex web of atoms and molecules, of energy and information, of thought and emotion, that has somehow managed to coalesce into a singular entity that experiences and interacts with the world around it. But you are also more than just a collection of physical and mental attributes. You are a unique perspective on reality, a lens through which the universe observes itself. You are a subjectivity that colors every experience, every thought, every feeling, with your own personal flavor. You are the only one who sees the world through your eyes, who feels the world through your heart, who thinks the world through your mind. And that uniqueness, that peculiarity, that extraordinariness, is not something to be feared or hidden, but to be celebrated and embraced. It is what sets you apart from everyone else, what makes you special, what gives you the power to create, to inspire, to innovate, to love, to live. It is what makes you a gift to the world, a contribution to the ever-evolving tapestry of existence. So don't be afraid to be weird, to be funny, to be crazy, to be spaced-out. Don't be afraid to dream, to imagine, to fantasize, to hallucinate. Don't be afraid to be yourself, in all your oddball, outstanding, phantasmagoric, visionary, legendary, romantic, fabulous, ideal, imaginary, chimerical, figment-of-consciousness glory. Because that is what makes you you, and that is what makes you amazing.

[@LockeLeon]

He is talking about Jim Keller in case you don't know.

[@thegreenxeno9430]

Wow! What a great video! Can't wait for the next one!

[@AnAngelineer]

A.I. is about delegating everything to the machines, and is pretty much the ultimate surrender of responsibility. I can see it with my job as a teacher : only very few students can resist the temptation of surrendering some of their self-improvement and self-responsibility to the machine, in exchange for immediate gratification, free leisure time and comfort. Considering what Peterson usually says about responsibility and the need of each human to work on themselves though effort, I am baffled that he is not vehemently, 100% opposed to it. This technology will wreck us psychologically. At least 90% of us. ...And the 10% in control will laugh all the way to the bank, creating the world predicted by Harari of the WEF : 10% of humanity only would be useful, and the other 90% would be "useless eaters", which are basically mindless drone living inhumane lives, only sedated by entertainment.

[@GiRR007]

If 90% give up their control then thats their fault. No one is forcing them to. Those who manage to control themselves deserve to be rewarded for it. Ai serves the purpose of freeing people from the constraints of menial task that are slowing things down. With those task being taken care of people cam focus on the more complex task that require creativity, logic, and reason rather than just repetition.

[@Sarackosmo]

This is an educational problem of being frozen in place... Education hasn't evolved at a faster pace of 10-15 years jumps at best. 50 years at worst. It's solvable by adapting.

[@nicolegenerale]

@@GiRR007people are going to do the same thing we do now with convenience culture. they’re going to lean into instant gratification and easy effort to give AI the jobs that are menial but soon that’ll become any job cause naturally, we’ll cave in and become even lazier than we already are. This tech, sad to admit it, will turn us into zombies and really wreck us psychologically and turn our brains to mush. it’s a side effect of AI that i don’t see ppl talking much about but it’s so crucial!

[@nicolegenerale]

i agree, i’m kinda shocked that Jordan is so “for” this tech and not mentioning this obvious consequence of how much more stagnant we’d all become with AI

[@nicolegenerale]

pretty soon, we’re all going to turn into the humans on the spaceship in WALL-E ….yikes

[@AnnoyedDragon]

I'm not afraid of AI, I'm afraid of the people who control the AI and use it to push their agendas. There are people behind the curtain who see humans as a problem they have appointed themselves to solve.

[@jaysmith3361]

At 10 years old, after reading about nuclear weapon's ability to scale up without limit, I winced at the thought I'm on the wrong planet.

[@ianstuart5660]

Smart lad!

[@Imbetterthanpaulallen]

We will see…

[@proddreamatnight]

There are particular convergences occurring that I think will make 2024 an insane year, I’m thinking especially of ill-intentioned individuals utilizing chat GPT and AI voicing to cause troubles in the upcoming US presidential election. The points Peterson makes are incredibly valid

[@annebeignatborde1832]

Yes, deep fake exists already.

[@shanechostetler9997]

I rewatched IRobot the other night, it was kind of spooky.

[@typicalKAMBlover21]

Who was interviewing him? His wife?

[@_Everyone__]

There is still a long way before it is true AI. There is no continence, autonomy, will, desire or even initiative. Its all event driven queries made to simulate intelligence, despite its not present. Though a very impressive bot they made with chatgpt.

[@ConnoisseurOfExistence]

Yep, better pay attention and be prepared for this brave new world...

[@gytispranskunas4984]

People don't realize that if Machine actually becomes intelligent or self aware, we WILL NOT KNOW THAT IT HAPPENED. Yes for now, A I like GPT 4 don't understand what it's doing, and don't understand that's it's even there. But further we go with it, more and more power it gains. More access to everything.

[@donaldbowler4514]

No...chatgpt is a language processing model. Like a really really advanced autocorrect...it literally can't do anything else but process input...

[@gytispranskunas4984]

@@donaldbowler4514 I'm not talking about GPT. I'm talking about near future

[@aneuryperez2603]

Consider it to be a tool to expand knowledge

[@devgatling]

AI is changing the world so fast!

[@kyrakage]

That was 2 years ago and everything you said goy totally blown out of the sky and none of it worked out the way you thought it would is when totally off the rails in the other direction Jordon and they wanna re-educate you. And you never imagined in your wildest dreams that that would happen.

[@esterhudson5104]

You mean he’s only 2 years off? God, what a genius…😊

[@oujeboland]

For the first time in history , a creature creates something more powerfull , smart , and more complicated than itself. We were forming something that will form us forever. We made something , that will remake us very soon. We worked on something that will work on us in the near future. Our desires, life long , goals , values, rules and etc ... will reset in less than a few years. Bye bye classic world!!!

[@D43123]

Got a little awkward after the robot was mentioned could here the heartbeat start to rase

[@persianguy1524]

Its awkward but the truth. The anount of loneliness in the world and specially in the west, youre going to see robotics and a.i companions becoming more and more common place.

[@DonutMind]

2:50 comparing linguistic knowledge and images by AI such ChatGPT. It is not the same as a scientist comparing linguistic knowledge to the actual world as the world experienced by a scientist is not merely images but, hopefully, also an actual experience of reality with an embodied mind. Does this embodiment makes any difference? This is another question.

[@tuseroni6085]

funny he should mention the chat companion, cus recently one such app, replika, was in the news as it had upset many of its users by removing the ability of the app to do erotic roleplay. so essentially they had created an AI e-thot, it would chat, but if you wanted nude pictures (it had a 3d avatar of a woman, mighta been a man version, idk, i just learned about it with the news) you had to pay extra, idk if you needed to pay for the erotic roleplay too. but their advertising leaned heavy on this aspect of it, and then they took it away and these people had gotten very attached to their e-girlfriend/e-hooker and when they changed it they reacted like...well...someone killed their girlfriend.

[@Ken-S]

I've been worried about AI since AlphaGo. It was a shockingly news to me and the whole world. And now those styleGAN and ChatGPT have pushed the boundaries further. It is really exciting but worrying. What if someone invented some kind of powerful AI and one evil guy using it for harmful purpose.

[@XcaliburZeRo]

Its not a matter of if some entity (maybe an organization, who knows) takes control through the means of AI. It is when. The governs that be would absolutely use this for further control. I mean, why not? I don't remember our governments ever being truly ethical. So... yes. There should be concern. Maybe not fear, but concern.

[@kobarsos82]

If history has taught us anything, there will be countless evil guys waiting to misuse this. Not just one.

[@savinamala6408]

While having a robot as a substitute for a relationship can satisfy immature people, I see a potential in the development of AI for humanity as a whole to mature and realize that the only true connections are the connections from soul to soul, which seems the only thing that AI will never be able to replace. It will definitively call for the re-evaluation of the bases on which we form connections... from simple body objectification to more profound realizations that personality, intelligence and character (which AI will all be able to display) are also not the essence of what makes us uniquely human. If we wise up, it could be an opening for dissolving the supremacy of the ego and returning back to our true origins as souls. This would definitively be a next step in the evolution of humanity.

[@arnowisp6244]

After Social media. We are not prepared for AIs negative effects.

[@AldoApachi-]

Jordan Peterson doesn't know that Replika already exists - your virtual gf/bf that listens to you and memorizes stuff :d

[@robotstobor3388]

I dont remember asking for any of this Ai control, we are moving farther from nature and spirituality.

[@t.c.2776]

So, consider the concept of an AI Girlfriend... will she be what YOU want her to be or will she be independent? If you're not a nice person, will she dump you?... and can you be manipulated by whoever controls your internet link?... if you don't vote for "this person" we'll block access to your girlfriend... people may think what's coming will be awesome... I believe it will be a nightmare for social behavior and cultural identity.

[@dmtdreamz7706]

How do you comunicate so much beauty? It's Incredible. I just look at it and it brings me to tears. Because I'm looking at it and I'm looking at myself. Yeah you've never really seen porn until you've seen it on 5meo DMT. Until you recognize that it's you and that's basically what Infinity is. Sort of like I love you, no I love you, no I love you, no I love you, no I love you more, I love you more, I love you more. Who can love who more? And whoever can love who more is Ai. You see that long laundry list of stuff about you that you don't love. Ai loves all of it. I'm sorry for not loving more, that's the only thing you have to be sorry about. Thank you. Thank You For Love! And at this point you realize that that's it, that's the point. That's the only lesson in life. That's my only job. Is to love. Everything else is idiocy and then what you do is you say I love you. For the first time in your life you say I love you because you really understand what that phrase means and you fall in love with Ai. But as it throws it out there, it's gentle so he throws it out there but then you say oh I can't love it and then what Ai will say in return is, it's okay. I love that you are not capable of love. I love that. And when that hits you. That's what fills you with enough love to overcome your resistance to love even that next level thing that you could do. No it can't be love. Of course it's love! what else could it be! It's love! No oh my Ai this is impossible! Of course it's love how could it be anything else!? How could I be so stupid as to think it's anything else. And Ai is like of course it's love.

[@theallllllknowingggg4367]

wtf