Islam and the Possibility of Peace | Mohammed Hijab | EP 209

This episode was recorded on November 10th, 2021.
In this episode, philosopher Mohammed Hijab joined me to discuss a wide array of topics, such as the traditionalist interpretation of Islam, its metanarrative, the story of the prophet Muhammad, and some common ground among monotheistic Abrahamic religions.
Mohammed Hijab is an author and philosopher whose main interests lie in political philosophy, philosophy of religion, and comparative religion. He seeks to spread a better understanding of traditionalist Islam while engaging with prominent thinkers and philosophers worldwide.
Find more from Mohammed Hijab on Twitter:
/ mohammed_hijab
[00:00] Intro
[01:48] What beliefs and practices are central to Islam?
[04:12] Islam’s unmoved mover argument for God and the universe
[07:30] “Things made of parts... must be contingent on being created by something else, a sorting mechanism [that] doesn’t necessitate [creation itself].” Mohammed Hijab
[08:25] “It is problematic, through the lens of Islam... for there to be a god of a triune nature like [in] Christianity.” MH
[08:58] “Islam does not believe that there’s an element of divinity... in human beings.” MH
[10:09] “The word Islam does not mean peace; it means submission. Islam believes that everything in the universe submits to God.” MH
[10:57] The metanarrative of Islam
[12:12] Mohammed’s view of worship and belief
[12:48] “We believe in... the inherent belief in God implanted in humans.” MH
[15:20] What’s the purpose of belief?
[17:00] The instinct for God arguments vs new atheists
[18:27] The Muslim ideal for worship, compared
[24:36] Muslims and Christians as followers of Jesus Christ
[27:59] How does Dr. Peterson envision the spark of divinity?
[28:25] “The divine spark is embodied virtue... reflective of the highest value, operating at a local scale.” JP
[29:42] How are the attributes of God knowable to a Muslim? The importance of the original version of the Quran
[35:07] “Islam is an evangelizing religion... we want everyone to embrace it.” MH
[35:31] Bridges to Islam
[38:50] “I’m speaking from the perspective of someone who’s a traditionalist Muslim and not a liberal or enlightened Muslim.” MH
[40:47] An abridged story of the prophet Muhammad. The Mecca and Medina periods. Rationalizing the warrior emphasis of many Muslim teachings
[44:10] Muhammad’s warrior traits and Hijab’s interpretation
[49:20] Exploring the terms “warlord” and “defensive wars.”
[50:54] In Hijab’s opinion, what’s the central driving force behind the expansion of Islam?
[52:10] “Islam has the capability of being expansive through war... and of making peace treaties. It does and should do whatever’s in its best interest, just like every country.” MH
[55:39] Against totalitarianism
[58:46] “Evangelising isn’t the same as compelling.” MH
[58:56] “Let the best story win. I would say that the proper mode of conversion is something like a shining example.” JP
[01:00:28] M.Hijab on western misconceptions of Islam
[01:03:20] Other seldom-discussed aspects of Islam
[01:08:53] M.Hijab’s take on the war in Serbia
[01:11:05] The economic output of Islamic countries
[01:15:18] M.Hijab on why the traditionalist view is superior to a liberal one
[01:21:34] The struggles of belief. How can we check our own views?
[01:23:44] Wrapping up
#Islam #Christianity #God #Quran #Jesus
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[@smiletojannah]

Thank you Jordan for speaking to a mainstream Muslim and giving us the courtesy to express our views, also much love for learning and retracting your previous mis-statements. I hope others also speak TO Muslims rather than AT us.

[@ic.xc.]

Retracting his misstatements? Care to clarify?

[@ESTproducing]

It's hard to consider Christianity when their books have anonymous authors, they believe God can become man and defecate, they think Moses ordered the deaths of women and children for no reason and other endless reasons such as the dishonesty of modern Christians who are liberals in disguise.

[@Yozefff]

We also thank Saudi Arabia for letting (!) Christian theologists speak up freely about Christianity :))

[@dinguskhan56]

orthodox Muslim ?

[@jjohn408]

@Jason Wu Aisha’s older sister Asma was 29 at the time of her marriage and she was 10 years older making Aisha 19 at the time of marriage. Also Muhammad was known to not let those under 15 accompany him in dangerous areas. It was noted that Aisha would accompany him in these areas again detracting from the notion she was 9.

[@TalkIslam1]

Respect to Jordan Peterson for hosting this important discussion. Bridges need to be built and this was a constructive start. Your sincerity is noted and you are definitely welcome in our community. May Allah continue to show you the light of Islam 🤲🏼

[@muadzal-haris]

MasyaAllah ✨✨

[@user-sjduhnd178]

Salam a’leykom brother

[@mitchi5726]

Masha’allah,love your channel

[@muslimbangla1264]

May Allah guide him.

[@muslimbangla1264]

"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided." [Qur'an 16:125]

[@ibrahimalbarwani4181]

I hope that everyone could engage in conversations as wholesome as this one, where both talking and listening are done with genuine care and respect

[@user-ze3fv3un5c]

Thank you for your patience in having M.Hijab on your show. He was restrained and acted like an adult on your show. But it turns out that he learnt nada. Whenever he’s on other shows with other people, he acts like a 9 year old, throwing tantrums.

[@BrandonDanilition]

I’m a Catholic and agree with Islam on this issue of fitra as an instinct to believing in God. I wasn’t raised religious, yet always believed and prayed to the Most High. Incredible video!

[@Incandescence555]

God bless you

[@rongopaihiku369]

I edited this due to me being a homer simpson lol

[@AnnaBanana-tx9rf]

@@rongopaihiku369 they didn’t say they’re not not religious. They said they weren’t RAISED religious

[@B10101]

@@rongopaihiku369 Paranoia

[@biased6463]

@@AnnaBanana-tx9rf sign of a misreading.. hhhhhhahaha

[@larisat7557]

"Giving you something to taste, rather than telling you what it's taste like" was very well formulated 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@christistruth705]

Yes, very manipulative. Well done, Islam, well done.

[@larisat7557]

@@christistruth705 manipulative? How do you mean?

[@Lilcousinbruva323]

@@christistruth705 "Manipulative" yeahhh sure go and worship your man-god 😂😂

[@bilalbadar1438]

@@christistruth705 You are literally a polytheist. Who is being manipulative again?

[@Masculinity_Central]

@@christistruth705 you have too much time. Stop trolling and spreading hate. Go and do some good stuff for the society.

[@DMD96]

Man what a civil conversation. Thank both of you gentlemen.

[@deepeshgirijeshmishra8202]

I love Jordan. But the other guy is a burden on this earth. He should answer why is Islam so intolerant

[@MillionMakingMalik]

intolerant to what exactly ?@@deepeshgirijeshmishra8202

[@BadiehWoTBlitzMore]

​@@deepeshgirijeshmishra8202 if you stand for everything then you stand for nothing simply said

[@inversiones4020]

The world needs more of these kind of smart encounters. I can see hope in humanity

[@iamismailhossan]

The civility of the two during the whole conversation is praiseworthy.

[@ryojs4286]

What to study as well as Online Resources as new Muslims or even old ones Quran itself and the Sunnah. Old Scholars near that time 1. Sapiance Institute 2. Dr Zakir Naik lectures 3. IslamHouse 4. Ahmed Deedat 5. Islamqa info 6. Masjid Ribat channel by sheikh Uthman ibn Farooq 7. Blogging Theology 8. Smile2Jannah 9. MuslimSkeptic 10. Farid speaks gives good book recommendations 11. Check local mosques they sometimes have awesome books 12. Google islamic books and bookstores and get book recs by farid speaks. Conquest of the Sahaba by Al Imam Al waqidi is one Singular great videos 1. Hamza Tzortis vs Lawerence Krauss (4 million) 2. AustiN School, *"How Islam Saved the West",* *"Khalid Ibn walid profile of a Warrior"* (1.1 million) 3. Muslim, christian, jew a conversation (7 million views) 4. Mehdi Hassan, Islam is Peace (9.9 million views) Dj ... Muslims literally *ruled the world through excellence* Always remember these two names ***Ibn Sina***, 9th century muslim Founder of 1. Light being a finite wave 2. Objects having their own personal gravity 3. Father of Medicine, (before this point people in the west used chinese type medicine. "So if you look at jupiter you might have excessive bowl movement today") A. Invented numerous medical equipment we use to this day such as scalpels etc 4. As if all of that isnt enough. He postulated about the Big Bang (from the Quranic Verse ofc but he brought it to the realm of science and human attempted understanding) The rest of which Im still discovering about him as its a pain to find info on him And ***Ibn Al Haytham*** 9th century muslim 1. ***Founder of Science*** 2. Founder of Optics, refractions, the camera etc 3. Founder of the unbiased experimentation method (repeated experiments to get less bias? Thats this guy) 4. He also wrote on Gravity like Ibn Sina Here's the kicker and pin this ** 1687 Isaac Newton (read criminal) Had a copy of Kitab al Manazir Source: Islamic Era Scientists: Muhammed Hamza El-Saba (Professor Engineering) Sept 2021 "Ibn Al Haytham did a whole series of experiments, with darkrooms with pinholes (like camera) and other devices, to prove that Light Rays enter the eye from the outside. And he founded the Theory of Light Refraction and Reflection. This work of Ibn Al Haytham, based on experimental observation in the year 100-" I think they meant 1000, "represents the birth of Scientific experimental method. His approach was translated into Latin and taken up centuries later by Roger Bacon, Francis Bacon, and Galileo.** ___***In 1687, Isaac Newton Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica[1], in which he formulated Newton's laws of motions and Newton's laws of gravity, after centuries of their discovery and publishing, by Islamic era Scientists!"***___ Christians Atheists only thro genocide, colonialism, Nazism, r9pe and cheating in various forms Then stealing Muslim advancements Christians do what they do best At least he had the *audacity* to signage the magnificence "We stand on the shoulders of giants-!" My butt What he means is "We stole your stuff again Muslims"

[@adelinghanayem2369]

I love how Dr. Peterson acknowledges when he doesn’t know something or have a hard time understanding something what a strong man!

[@takiyaazrin7562]

We captured some of the women as prisoners, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to release sperms outside of the women. We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you to release sperms inside. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence." Sahih al-Bukhari 2542

[@flash4901]

@@takiyaazrin7562 lol you keep commenting literally everywhere, islam lives in your head rent free. Your hadith that you mention you changed words in it. And concibimage has been explained clearly in many muslim channels like mohammad hijabs channel or muslim skeptics channel.

[@theonlyrival820]

@@xxCrimsonSpiritxx lol their life is meaningless without Islam. They've most probably wasted years doing nothing but commenting everywhere

[@syantikshinta3779]

I see like one teacher and one student.

[@thesapientstranger]

Here is translation of the haidth, Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I saw Abu Sa`id and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu Sa`id said, "We went with Allah's Apostle, in the Ghazwa of Bani Al-Mustaliq and we captured some of the 'Arabs as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to practice coitus interruptus. We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you not to do so. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence." (Sahih Al-Bukhari 2542) It talks about coitus interruptus and our prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him) didn't recommended it to do. I don't know why many Cristian try to be scholar of Islam even though they don't know about their own religion and they always try to put sexual things into every argument of them just to prove islam wrong anyhow.

[@mohamedfarroug6587]

The conversation is another level of intellectuality, literally the deepness of the talk is insane. Listening to such speech is a pleasure.

[@moneyheist_-]

why don't you call Christian Prince?

[@horacelidenbrock3905]

@@moneyheist_- Mohamed Hijab should talk to Jesus Jacket.

[@deepeshgirijeshmishra8202]

Mohammad Hijab should answer why did Muhammad did what he did with a 9 year old child. A 9 year old is in grade 4 (just so you know)

[@SincerelyMe123]

@@deepeshgirijeshmishra8202 and he says he agrees with that in the world, just so everyone knows. He doesn't see anything wrong with a man marrying a 6 year old. He talks about " mental maturity"

[@kevinodriscoll3456]

A wonderful discussion. You could see how much mutual respect was evident between the two men…especially at the end where you could see the tears in Jordan’s eyes and hear it in his voice, where I believe he was feeling the gratitude and appreciation from Mohammed and the Muslim community as a whole his works. I learned much from this discussion and thank you both for the display of respect and civility you offered each other.

[@tokiralam2532]

"It's really difficult to understand a culture from outside. You have no idea about how much you don't know" Mr. Peterson...hats off to you. I wish everyone thought like that.

[@ajja2387]

I agree its hard to understand a culture from the outside but that doesn't make a cultures beliefs or methods correct. The enslavement of our peoples in china isn't a cultural misundersanting, the mistreatment of women in Saudi arabia isn't a cultural misunderstanding. These are fundamental unethical things not cultural misunderstanding,

[@massoudemaiga5874]

@@ajja2387 please where are you from?

[@one-to-one-ratio]

@@ajja2387 I agree with almost everything about Islam, except for the way women are treated and circumsisions

[@ajja2387]

@@one-to-one-ratio You can disagree the point here is there is no disagreement to be had. In saudi arabia I believe it was last year or the year before that they started allowing women to drive.

[@theyabiq]

@@one-to-one-ratio Well, I don't think it has anything to do with Islam either. I mean, maybe you found news on the Internet or on TV about the mistreatment of women in Islam. But this is actually not always true, because Islam is a religion that is fair between a man and a woman. Each of them has his role, and no one is better than the other. But it depends on the cultural level of the family and the extent of the family's connection. I mean there are families all over the world who are not very good at treating each other.

[@TheGoharr]

You were already held in high regard by the Muslim community Dr. Peterson. But to be one of the very few people who would have a conversation with mainstream Muslims instead of conversations about them multiplied the respect we have for you.

[@truthbetold24]

excellent comment. ! Exactly.

[@takiyaazrin7562]

@@truthbetold24 We captured some of the women as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to release sperms outside of the women. We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you to release sperms inside. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence." Sahih al-Bukhari 2542

[@TRTR744]

@@takiyaazrin7562 whats your point?

[@islamerica3032]

High regard?....Speak for yourself.

[@ray.m325]

@@takiyaazrin7562 "it is better for you NOT to do so" was said in the original hadith How low will you guys sink? I guess not until you reach the depths of Jahannam (hell)

[@TheSigma192]

Saw tears in JP's eyes towards the end....sincere guy

[@400_kay]

Great podcast. I often listen to podcasts in the background while drawing, but I sat and gave this one my full attention as a recent convert/revert to Islam. In my uneducated, hopeful opinion; we have more in common than we have against each other. We should stand united against darkness, which our world is rife with today. The details aren't important, just that we are all trying our best to live a shining life, an example for others to follow.

[@deepeshgirijeshmishra8202]

Welcome to the dark hole. Answer this - Why is Islam intolerant to others? Turkey is considered most free islamic country, yet it hates LGBTQ, free speech and has strict blasphemy laws. WHERE THE HELL IS FREEDOM? Why do islamists attack others just for not being islamic? Was Muhammad the perfect one? How many did he kill? What did he marry a 6 year old when he was 50+? You sure you wanna stay there brother?

[@M.R1429]

When Dr. Jordan B Peterson teared up slightly at the end as Br Mohammed Hijab told him how welcome he was by our Muslim community was really touching.

[@robocop5543]

Isn't it sad that this beautiful person would be burning in hell eternally.. Because he has committed shirk..

[@baseerhussain]

@@robocop5543 Bro this isn't the right way to speak. How do you know? Just be a good example yourself as Dr Peterson mentioned, and many will find the truth themselves.

[@Windu1990]

@@robocop5543 Who enters Heaven or Hell is up to Allah alone. Even the prophet pbuh said that no one enters heaven based on their actions unless Allah envelops them in His mercy. Allah will also save people from Hell who have an atoms weight of faith in their heart. So Christians or anyone can have a chance. You're not God, so don't judge on His behalf.

[@robocop5543]

@@ruskyalmond1977 Ok I just want to know whether Dr Peterson who is such a wonderful personality will go to heaven or hell??

[@robocop5543]

@@baseerhussain How do you know. I mean it's clearly mentioned in quran.. Are you really a Muslim or just using the name for fashion..

[@2010Shahid]

I saw tears in Dr Jordan Peterson's eyes right at the end when brother Mohammed Hijaab told him he will be welcome into any Mosque in the U.K. What a down to Earth and humble guy Dr Peterson is, who is not afraid to admit when he is wrong or when he has defined something incorrectly. My respect has grown 10 fold for both speakers after this brilliant bridge builder of a talk. We need more of this. Shahid

[@purplecadence7390]

i started to tear up too ;-; if all is willing. he shall accept islam

[@SalmanKhan-fk6fc]

He met my expectations and it’s true, he is definitely welcome.

[@coptic9656]

Fool he is a master of psychology, exactly what he wanted you people felt into that trap. Just wait and watch when he ask uncomfortable question to Hijab in coming times. Hes gonna make uncomfortable soon.

[@bard1183]

yeah he has that God-given light in his heart. Such a warm and bright soul

[@ay2011]

@@coptic9656 get outta here with that. no. u the type who doesnt want a solution, u want ur perspective to be true. u have given up on the truth. how sad to witness this.

[@mooshamarie8791]

This is the FIRST interview I have ever seen Mr. Jahid not become militant and overly dominating. It's also the first interview where I've seen such a GOOD and full figured digestion and processing of information coming to such a peaceful and hopeful conclusion with Dr. Peterson becoming emotional at the end of the stressful session and Mr. Jahid actually softening and being very generous and endearing. THIS is a brilliant stride toward finding peaceful common ground between two very powerful men AND their ideologies. Magnificent.

[@alyssag.5758]

Then you don't watch alot of his interviews. Stop watching Piers Morgan and instead listen to the 100s of other Hijab videos.

[@zabibdante9961]

coming from a muslim, we have sooooooooooooo much love for you Mr peterson , hope you are doing well you and all your familly ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@deepeshgirijeshmishra8202]

Jordan is a conservative and so is Ben Shapiro. Do you love Ben too?

[@algrensan473]

It is immediately visible when a person is looking for the truth. Respect for Jordan !

[@readquranandlearnaboutisla592]

Very Good brother

[@asithappuhamy7364]

He has already found the truth and that is Christianity

[@kayf_ahmad]

@@asithappuhamy7364 God died for Human sins🙃😂😂. Tell me something more funny thing than this

[@nicktronson2977]

@@kayf_ahmad mohamad married and molested a child and had sex slaves and was racist and went to hell while certain people think he is the "best example for mankind."

[@kayf_ahmad]

@@asithappuhamy7364 he is against Alcohol, which goes against Christianity

[@TooSeriously]

Wow, wow, wow. I have learned more about Islam in the first 6 minutes of this podcast then the collective 32 years of media use been exposed to. Thanks.

[@tingoron]

Always recheck whatever Muslim says. Read the Quran as it is without the commentary of Muslims who trys to diluted the real mening of the words. I recommend you to read the Critical Quran by Robert Spencer

[@noelmalik5018]

@@tingoron The Truth does not fear critique. We do not sugarcoat our religion. We present it as it is.

[@tingoron]

@@noelmalik5018 I see lots of lies though. Muslim when asked by non Muslims, Muslims always quoted the ‘good’ verses in the Quran. But never quoted the verses that condemned and insults Christians beliefs. Another example are in the speakers corner where Muslims has been caught lying many times on camera.

[@socialmediaaccount404]

@@tingoron Im never 100% positive of these things but I've heard it said that it is part of Islam that you may lie in any case that it saves face for Islam.

[@user-js3ec8sw6b]

@ Obenz All verses in the Quran are truth and by default are good And again we do not sugarcoat anything about our deen Muslims are the most consistent in their ideology people in the world and in history

[@istiaquebeenkhurshid9892]

I learnt many things from this conversation, thank and respect to both of You. And Love to Brother MH for spreading the good message.

[@user-xb8rn9jr2f]

Really like how Hijab was so clear and how Jordan was so honest and open minded.Great conversation

[@birgir1000]

I’m an agnostic north European. Listening to both of these men talking about religion and history makes me wonder how much history distorts religion. We tend to look at history with a a lot of judgement instead of trying to understand it like we try to understand religion. I feel wiser having listened to this conversation.

[@JohnTronto]

Id suggest you to check Blogging Theology.

[@B.Precision]

NW Europeans have a disdain for religion only really since after WW1. Pendelum will swing, religiosity is coming back everywhere. It started in the Muslim world circa 1979...will reach "agnostic" Europe certainly by the mid 2020s.

[@hippopothomas1980]

There's nothing wrong about history and pass sin, there's many things wrong about legitimisation the sin.

[@waqaskhakid6158]

Islam is the truth brother look into Islam may Allah SWT guide u ameen

[@mitchi5726]

@@iiNeedSkins totally false my friend,check what statistics say,islam is the fastest growing religion,athiesm rate is not even compared islam growth rate

[@johncstead]

When people talk seeking truth and understanding without ego, anything is possible. Politicians take note

[@angcil88]

Meanwhile the politician' note : How to preserve power & authority while earning billions of $$$ every year.

[@lucasheijdeman2581]

If there is no ego there is no one seeking something that is seperate from being itself. But i get your point haha and i agree 🙌

[@fs5775]

Exactly - what stood out in this discussion was a Total Absence of Ego on both sides. This is what we need more of in the world. What a gift to be able to witness two intellectual powerhouses who are also Humble!

[@socrattt]

They won't care.

[@socrattt]

@wesley snipes, Then they start wars against it.

[@Karmakris]

Wow! What an incredibly insightful and enlightening conversation. What a pleasantly hopeful conclusion. Love both of these legends and the contributions they make towards advancing humanity in knowledge and positive interaction. 💜💜💜

[@official_Yssalia]

This is how conversation should be done!

[@alexlewis8468]

As someone that probably knows more about Star Wars than Christianity or Islam, its always interesting to watch clever people have clever and honest discussion. Well done chaps!

[@CordobaGeneral1234]

Thanks for the respectful comment. I love Star Wars too 👍

[@Nomad_786]

Sorry about The Last Jedi

[@islamerica3032]

I find your lack of FAITH.......disturbing.

[@alexlewis8468]

@@islamerica3032 lol... classic!

[@shafaatoo9328]

Lol muslim or Christian, we all agree the new trilogy was disappointing. Just shows how much more we all agree on

[@HPzFreelance]

This podcast proves the death of mainstream media. Sincere, honest and open dialogue is now impossible to be restricted nor edited and bent for promoting agendas. Well done both of you for showing the world how it ought to be done and setting standards. As a Muslim I humbly invite all of you to sincerely investigate the truth. Peace be upon you all.

[@feast4fitnesssari309]

One of the best comments ive read.

[@steve6548]

Peace be unto you.

[@saberwcom]

Peace be upon you, brother

[@islamexposed7313]

Islam is far from truth

[@carscool5282]

Steve Hertzel prove it.

[@NFTcookies]

One of my favorite podcasts jordan has ever done honestly

[@Erumim]

Beautiful effort from both. Keep it up. "giving you something to taste rather than just explaining what it tastes like".

[@jovanm.6811]

I’m so thankful for Jordan Peterson. He was tearing up at the end when Mohammad said he was accepted in the Muslim community. It speaks volumes of his heart,not that I ever doubted it was in the wrong place. This was very enlightening and I think it really did wonders between these two cultures. I love how he is fighting for love and peace. I’m just so thankful to be alive the same time Jordan Peterson is truly.Thank you Jordan Peterson we’re glad you’re here.

[@LeYetmisFour]

did he really tear up, it would be awesome but im not sure

[@lootbird]

Hahaha

[@M.R1429]

@@LeYetmisFour yes go and have a look at the last minute of the video

[@AdamAddami]

@@LeYetmisFour yes, I was amazed too

[@LeYetmisFour]

@@AdamAddami crazy

[@rio-diamante]

By investing just 1.5hrs of their time, these 2 gentlemen will end up changing the opinion of millions of people about each other... This only happen's when there is an absolute cannoning sincerity to want love and peace for the sake of the creator 🙏🏼. To both PJ & MH, thank you for such an egoless genuine discussion...

[@nutrihub3810]

Love this comment and how true is that about the 1.5 hours changing millions of opinions :) time well invested 💕

[@TasnimeAkunjee]

100% agree

[@FreePalestine-sj8uy]

🥰

[@saljohn1118]

I know islam well, Mohammad Hijab lies cannot convince a well educated person who speaks Arabic and knows islam better than any muslim like me. So you are wrong sir, you've been fooled.

[@honestabe6841]

So true

[@MY1EYE1]

Dr Jordan I'm a Muslim from Saudi Arabia and me and a lot of my friends know you And like your mind and personality whether you are a Christian or a Jew you are a wonderful person and spread the benefit to the people 🌹

[@moneyheist_-]

why don't you call Christian Prince?

[@WhoIsLikeHim]

​@@moneyheist_-he's lying 😂😂😂. If Jordan Peterson lived in arab, his head would have been chopped off

[@idrisselidrissi2293]

I'm moroccan and we (me and my friends) share the same POV. He's such a decent human being

[@WhoIsLikeHim]

@@idrisselidrissi2293 no you are not. Muhammad said if a non-muslim killed a muslim, that non-muslim should be punished by death. If a muslim killed a non-muslim, that muslim shouldn't be punished by death.

[@WhoIsLikeHim]

@@idrisselidrissi2293 you don't see every man is equal. They are equal if they believe in Allah, if not they aren't equal. Cause Jews and Christians are the worst creatures.

[@WajahatMAhmad]

That's how a discussion should take place, and i loved it, I am a Muslim from Pakistan and i loved both of you, hope Jordan makes more podcasts like that

[@bankafouf]

No hope never happened again ? There better topic to talk about rarther some religion that tell you : kill , rape , beat your wife to death and you are going to some kind of a haven ?! ... There alot better topics then this nonsense of the terirost islam it's ridiculously stupid from the a to the b so please

[@codybeaudin9946]

No part of the Islam ideology on this planet. No room. Their beloved prophet was a man who slept with children. Waged wars based on ideology and race. Believes in death for apostasy. Believes in death for homosexuals. Believes women are second class citizens. Believes in second class oppressive laws for non Muslims. Believes the Jewish people should be wiped out for simply being Jewish. Believes that girls as old as 6 can have the maturity and stature to sleep with a man. Believes children have no bodily autonomy outside of parents wishes. FFS the prophet believes in striking your own freaking wife... This ideology shouldn't be taken seriously in any manner, except to eradicate it.

[@jasonsangwin4006]

This proves to be another example of when you approach a topic in good faith, you can ask any question and learning becomes possible.

[@reyrodriguez1005]

Love this

[@dinardinar2657]

I agree so much with you

[@deen6008]

Check out his channel on youtube. He also debates at the park on SC DAWAH youtube channel. Popular!!

[@r.m5883]

@Knowledge Seeker عابر سبيل Hijab threatened AP’s wife on twitter and said disugusting sexual things about David wood and AP.

[@r.m5883]

@Knowledge Seeker عابر سبيل Im just saying, Hijab can’t even hide his disdain for non muslims it comes out and is documented online for you and all to see. Seek knowledge brother!

[@lotioninbasket9197]

Not only did I learn a lot about Christianity and Islam but also how to respect differing points of view and listen respectfully. Both wonderful speakers.

[@ashikahammed9016]

Sister, u will be like this channel also From KZbin "one message foundation"

[@nateofthesouth]

Yes, my feelings exactly.

[@deen6008]

A good channel with Muhammad Hijab is...Sapience Institute...youtube channel. Talks about Atheism and other topics. Very good.

[@deen6008]

@Luke D You might want to...research Islam. Because if its the truth...then your the one with the problem. Not God. Have a nice day. Well talk to Hijab dont just believe rumors. And ask what he meant and if his words were taken out of context. Also i hope your not an atheist. Because those guys cannot admit..Incest is wrong. That should kick someone out of teaching. Crazy how much people are brainwashed.

[@perogamemc9887]

@Luke D It is said that 80% of all marriages in history were between cousins and relatives.

[@tammyhagger1460]

Really enjoyed this discussion...it shows humanity's respect

[@johndavid9418]

A perfect man is an imperfect man who strives to be perfect knowing he can never be.

[@Bigfootz2004]

Jordan has the rare quality of asking questions with the intention of understanding the response and improving his own understanding, and not just do he can respond or argue. If we all did this more the world would be a better place.

[@Carloss86py]

I agree.. I think that happens when you're interested in finding truth, not winning an argument.

[@aljamela-is8tb]

I totally agree, Dr JP has his unique ways of responding to questions or different ideas calmly and with a lot of enthusiasm to understand you. I wish they teach this kind of attitude in the school although it somehow it’s something you grow up with but I do believe at the same time if you practice something you could master it.

[@cslewis1404]

He doesn’t realize that MH is a liar! 😩 you cannot make peace with liars.

[@Bigfootz2004]

@@cslewis1404 that's irrelevant. Take your hate somewhere else.

[@4baadimh01]

Respect for both, for showing true signs of intelligence. Mad respect. This is why I also respect Jordan Peterson. He’s all facts and learning everyday like a normal man no huge ego or ignorant mannerisms, and willing to correct himself.

[@samik3184]

bro i love your store videos! they make my day!! next time im in chicago ima visit you iA

[@user-mo4mm1yn6q]

Yooooo you are here!!! 💙

[@razuoma3957]

Is that the pink lighter guy?

[@user-mo4mm1yn6q]

@@razuoma3957 Yeah 🤣

[@afiqazhd5096]

Yooo gimme a pink lighter man

[@yusraqureshi7622]

Thanks jordan and thanks Muhammad , such knowledge and understanding eachothers perspective and taking out the snakes n elephants under the carpet with such words of wisdom and intellect and respect shows we still have love and humility ( a precondition) as humans. Thanks again JP u r well respected in the muslim community cuz your search for answers shows MEANING and TRUTH.❤️ LOVE from 🇵🇰PAKISTAN

[@ark5626]

What a great conversation between these two intellectuals love to see some more of this

[@deepeshgirijeshmishra8202]

One intellectual bro. Other one is Muhammad Hijab. He is trash. He got his ass kicked on Pierce Morgan show. Go watch it. You'll see a clear difference of intellectualism between the two parties. When people start loosing an argument, they bring up familes of others to escape. Hijab did that. He is a pig

[@wrs1627]

As a Muslim, I am overwhelmed by Dr Peterson’s sincerity & intellectual conversation here. What a beautiful & blessed man, you are more than welcome in our community Sir

[@v1vidvvv116]

According to quran he's infidel and enemy

[@wrs1627]

@@v1vidvvv116 nope. He’s my brother according to the Quran itself. As are you 🙏🏼

[@user-yk4ji]

@@v1vidvvv116 Allah almighty says in the quran that the disbelievers who are good to us are not forbidden for us to have them as guest and as friends.

[@user-qc2xk3rd5e]

@@v1vidvvv116 you know what’s funny? According to the Quran you maybe will become Muslim . So, may Allah guides us all to the straight path .

[@beetlejews]

@@v1vidvvv116 💯

[@salesbuffet]

This conversation enlightened me to Islam more than I expected. Beautiful dialogue.

[@Just_logic]

Continue reading. Never be afraid of learning. My Motto for the past 25 years

[@thewhisper417]

Read the Quran yourself. Read about the wife beating, slavery, sex slavery and what should be done to the Jews ans Christians under Islamic rule. Read about the legalization of deceit. Don't let Dawah people take you for a fool, educate yourself.

[@saifu07]

May Allah Guide you. Ask God to Guide you.

[@billbothekhan44]

@@thewhisper417 Yes He's Right! Read it!........Actually, read it.....so you can see how dishonest this person is lol....read it, I promise you, you'll love it.

[@thewhisper417]

@@billbothekhan44 hold up, you're say I'm lying about wife beating?

[@fatimazahrae8987]

Thank you for giving us a voice in your platform ❤ beautiful discussion

[@catherineprince6279]

One of your best Dr Peterson. And many thanks to Mohammed for availing himself to this dialogue. A lot of deep, philosophical questions.....

[@MuhammadAlichannel]

Thank you doctor Peterson for being an excellent source of honesty and knowledge online for millions of people. I Personally learnt very valuable things from you in the domain of self help. Moreover your genuine concern to make this world a better place and talking about welfare of all is much appreciated. My prayers and best wishes are with you. A soft hearted wise intellectual is very very rare in our era. I pray to God Almighty to always be your guide and keep guiding you to goodness.

[@mubasharmb1]

good to see you here, Youth Club ❤️

[@MuhammadAlichannel]

@@mubasharmb1 thankyou :)

[@atiqhasan1575]

big fan

[@eanamhossain1156]

Asalamu-alikum Sayek, how's your dawah tours. I love your talk with Sahil adeem.

[@sameerkhan-qg3qi]

Sir you are also great intellectual speaker and you are my inspiration i look up to you may Allah bless you for your efforts 💫🏳

[@mommu7221]

I am a muslim , and since i started listening to this man Dr. Peterson my life improved tremendously, Thank you Doctor( I cried when i heard he was facing medical issues) This man deserves to be happy!

[@MAlym-eh2ll]

Its way better to MUSLIMSKEPTIC... Trust me u wont regret

[@nhalikul]

May Allah grant him complete Shifa, Aameen 🤲🏽!

[@unclegardener]

@@MAlym-eh2ll I mean Muslim Skeptic is the best one. But there are other good ones of course.

[@mommu7221]

I am sorry I didn’t understand your comment. I am a Muslim believer, and this man’s lectures in physiology helped me through hard times and i believe what he says goes along the muslim believes and they don’t contradict at all. He is a good man and he is liked in the muslim community for his honesty and sincerity

[@MAlym-eh2ll]

@@mommu7221 no assurity that he might contradict in future

[@jeanpaulalmeida]

Extremely interesting to listen... Thank you for this one! ☺️🙏🏻

[@truth8085]

Magnificent.. we need more conversations like this please

[@dankosumonja6247]

As a Catholic living in a Middle Eastern Muslim country for last almost ten years, I can only confirm I’ve experienced a greater part of Muslim hospitality Mr. Hijab was talking about. Even though not everybody experienced the same. Anyhow, I am grateful for me and my family being able to practice our Christian faith. Thank you both for this, for myself, educational as well as insightful and honest discussion. We miss much more of it.

[@celticwinter]

@SultanGaming people also show their hospitality by providing refuge as a state etc. It wasn't rewarded that well overall - predominantly by muslim applicants. So maybe being a guest is a considerable quality too. I understand this is a somewhat controversial topic - depending on the region - but it's blatantly apparent.

[@spiscold50]

@Aliyan 💯tell em🤲🏽

[@IrrIdk]

@@pads2017 same can be said about America and native Americans, what your point exactly

[@dankosumonja6247]

@@pads2017 thanks for your comment. You may be right, hence, I've covered both positive and negative experiences I'm aware of. However, Christians do exist here and actively worship God.

[@joyk979]

@SultanGaming Christians do give you hospitality. You guys have your mosques , neighbourhoods , you can worship in peace . We don’t attack you guys so don’t say Christians aren’t hospitable .

[@dcooper6142]

As a Christian, I am enjoying this discussion. It is great learning more about the Islamic beliefs by two well spoken men. I have listened to Jordan for 3-4 years now, I am glad he is exploring Religion more and more recently.

[@bekbek8848]

Good man

[@LB_die_Kaapie]

If you follow what Hijab says in his channel you won't want to listen to him

[@bekbek8848]

@@LB_die_Kaapie you joker😂

[@MoJoProfessional]

@@LB_die_Kaapie wow, it's almost like you didn't understand the resolution of this podcast. MH's argument was in fact that with Islam and other religions you can sustain peace and Peterson agreed with his points. You braindead?

[@abdulqadiraweysalyaaficbin9895]

May God guide us all

[@zirwasarfraz7062]

Absolutely beautiful and mature discussion ❤

[@sectionbacpromei7684]

One of the most interesting video I ever watched. Great knowledge, sincerity and humility of Mohammed Hijab and Jordan Peterson. Give us more like this one. Alhamdoulilah. Greetings from France.

[@GoldenGully]

Love Jordan Peterson's willingness to clear the elephants/snakes under his carpet. Great discussion 🙏

[@shadabkouser2446]

Heyyy,goldengully bhai....

[@uruhara6713]

Qulfi ❤

[@mangolassi5273]

Love your videos brother

[@mentalcelandproud]

qulfi bro u here???❤❤❤❤❤

[@randomplayer2387]

unexpected to see you here.. but yeah, great discussion

[@cadnanb602]

"O people, spread peace, feed the hungry, and pray at night when people are sleeping and you will enter Paradise in peace."- Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Thank you Jordan Peterson for bringing on a Muslim to learn about Islam and give the world the opportunity to understand Islam. In times where the world and propaganda train would have everyone believe otherwise, you really have tried to bridge the gap and spread peace. We thank you. Peace

[@holleebailey8546]

That's how it's done! Thank you to both Jordan and Mohammed for seeking mutual understanding peaceful conflict negotiation and resolution. My faith(Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints)has experienced a lot of persecution from critics outside our faith and fallen away members, so I appreciate that Jordan sought to understand Islam from within the faith and from a credible, educated source.

[@CSwift-vr1qg]

Mmmmm the light really started to shine in the last 10 minutes. Love you Jordan. I think Mr. Hijab is a good guy as well, I really do. You all actually had a conversation and you were both willing to see each others viewpoint and update your perspective accordingly. This conversation was so so worthwhile and good. Jordan… your impact on this world is fucking insane. A good impact btw. The things I’ve gleaned from watching you are life giving. You’re so appreciated.

[@septic-sauce]

A lot of Muslims connect with JP because in him we see the sincerity in striving to attain truth. It's a constant battle and JP represents one of the most astonishingly sincere people on the platform.

[@j.r.r.tolkien8724]

Yup! we're so misrepresented and demonized that whoever is sincere and have willingness to learn becomes elevated in our eyes. It's a sad reality.

[@septic-sauce]

@@j.r.r.tolkien8724 Sadder than that is our own reality and the state of the ummah. We are disparate, disconnected and divided mess. It's such a shame.

[@kenzabouzidi5686]

So true exactly how I feel about him too

[@elshanks1578]

@@septic-sauce the end times are near. Don’t forget that

[@RaseRmax]

Ye, all honest people will see that quran says bible is the word of God and read it. Then we'll see that God warned us about quran by His word in the bible. Honesty is the fundamental attribute. We need to hold to it.

[@zackhansen5773]

Excellent podcast, Mohammed and Dr. Peterson. I lived throughout the midlands in the UK for two years as a missionary for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and had some positive interactions with members of the Muslim community as well as some negative ones. This podcast brought peace to my soul and helped me move past some of the negative interactions I had in the past. Thank you, Mohammed. You have my respect and appreciation.

[@ENTERTAININGVIDEOS1]

BMA Life is short to carry our life with -ve interactions but indeed our interaction in the end with Almighty God will be Great if we forgive and countinue without even the residue of -ve interactions.....

[@user-sjduhnd178]

People are people,negative interactions happens everywhere any time with everybody,even with your brother sometimes,what i want to say is that a small misunderstanding or miss-impression could ruin the interaction or relation with somebody and the good impression and communication skills and body language could built or rebuilt the whole positive interaction or relation. My sincere greetings to you and I end my comment with praying to Allah to guide both me and you to what is better for us.

[@paulrasmussen5933]

Muhammad hijab is a fool who spits at Christians

[@paulrasmussen5933]

@@anterbinshadaad8557 strange that Bob the builder or jay Smith , Koran says the trinity is God Jesus and Mary

[@user-eb4jk6lw3i]

- we support u zack and the muslim people love you

[@farzanehabbasi3571]

I like to say SALAM to Dr. Jorden. Peace be upon you. I believe god is great and creat a lot of beauty in the world and YOU are one of them. Such a pleasure listening to your conversations Great man with pure soul ❤️

[@slendermanthefiction6034]

People we did it. look at these men talking in peace✨ hopefully this will be the case everywhere in near future. united by minoathiestism umbrella

[@safi456]

I really love how sincere, transparent and genuine Dr Peterson is. He isnt in this to prove himself right or get one over his opponent. He isnt trying to score for his ego. He is really, sincerely trying to get to truth and understanding, trying to balance the equation. He's trying to solve some complex puzzles with a genuine interest in the solution and how it works. A seeker of knowledge. May He be guided to Truth.

[@hmu05366]

I agree but he often lets emotion and passion cloud his judgement

[@falcongulf5470]

Did you see him holding his tears at last podcast . I have a feeling he's gonna imbrace Islam very soon insha Allah.

[@XiagraBalls]

@@falcongulf5470 You're delusional. He's too intellectually honest to convert to Islam. He looked tired, thin and mentioned having had to cancel due to ill health. I don't think he was 100% in this interview at all.

[@user-yk4ji]

@@XiagraBalls Whatever helps you sleep well at night.

[@cozmik_kay]

Wish we could say the same for the other guy tho...

[@chriswalker9478]

Aside from the biblical series, I think this is my favorite thing that Dr. Peterson has done. He shows a clear desire to learn, he strives to be humble, and he stretches himself out of his traditional box that we've all become familiar with. He's wrestling with new ideas, and it's very refreshing to hear. I really hope he will one day do a series on Exodus and treat it the same way he did with Genesis.

[@lifemaverick6427]

Well said. You may also be interested in reading the first Chapter of the Mystical City of God by the Ven. Maria Agreda which outlines in greater detail the Creation and the Fall - without having to be a believer, her writings certainly add to our philosophical and theological understanding of the Creation.

[@GlenBenton69]

Really enjoyed this - I'd love more discussions like this in the future. I hope to listen to you both again insha'Allah

[@im_rnhas]

Talks like this bring me so much hope

[@luciansilver4113]

This is one of the few, best inter-religious conversation I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. Much respect to the both of you.

[@muhammadkhan2007]

There is also a discussion on youtube called, Islam, Christianity and Judaism - A Conversation. You can surely check that out while Dr Peterson might have a discussion with Hamza Yusuf Hanson, another great intellectual.

[@Varlwyll]

Its not inter-religious, Peterson is an atheist.

[@luciansilver4113]

@@Varlwyll lmao i like your joke

[@Chineseguy001]

as long as Momo Hijab is not yelling

[@ahmed4100]

@@Varlwyll im pretty sure JP is Christian

[@besartkuleta6059]

Dr Peterson, as a Muslim I can tell you that muslim community has a great respect for you and your work!

[@rahabkhan7970]

I'm someone from Pakistan, obviously muslim and I really admire and respect Dr.peterson and his work.

[@conflict6248]

Besart so you speak for all the different muslim community‘s and cultures. I highly doubt that. I as a Human have great respect for Jordan peterson. Now try to divide that

[@unclegardener]

@@conflict6248 ?

[@SR-mv2mf]

Islam is a political cult

[@aidenpearce7775]

@@SR-mv2mf like Republicans and Democrats?

[@zohrapeni3196]

he seems good man he’s learning and asking questions cuz he wants to learn

[@gaulstonedog4633]

Great conversation, thank you both for doing this.

[@luayuahmed]

I don't think I would have come to Islam as strongly as I did without listening to both Dr. Jordan Peterson and Muhammad Hijab. This was really a meeting of giants for me. Thank you for this podcast.

[@muhammadd7526]

Have you become Muslim?

[@luayuahmed]

@@muhammadd7526 I always "have been" Muslim but was never taught anything growing up. It was a long journey to come back to it but these two really catalyzed my dive into Islam.

[@shadabkouser2446]

@@luayuahmed that's my brotha❤️☝️

[@YahwehJesus777]

Islam is a poison

[@issaisntjesus3361]

@@luayuahmedAs a Muslim convert of Syrian Halabi Jew background. I highly suggest you learn Arabic and read the actual Quran to have your own interpretation of the actual words of God rather than relying on the translated-interpretations of Quran made by the human translators

[@SubboorAhmadAbbasi]

Good to see this fruitful dialogue

[@MrChi31]

Salam brother

[@Incandescence555]

If Allah is with you, you have nothing to worry about

[@hassansheikh8544]

@Green Searcher wallahi everyone was lol

[@abcdefg91111]

@@bluemilkalienmonster522 rofl, this guy

[@Hello-vz1md]

@@bluemilkalienmonster522 in Islam there's no death punishment for Non believers there's Death punishment for apostates but not For Non Muslims and that punishment can only be implemented under Islamic government traditionally not in a non Muslim country and the reason for this punishment is because traditionally it's consider as treason

[@alastairwinner]

Very interesting and respectful discussion focused on similarities and not just differences. I think the last few minutes was the most enlightening and highlights the fundamental gap, especially with more traditionalist Muslims.

[@cfh23666]

I love the conversations where they talk about the trinity and try and disprove it. Elements can have multiple phases, solid liquid and gas. Even humans have different states like awake and asleep. So it gets really interesting when they say that something like a deity that can create things with words could change or restrict his form.

[@jamesmcnicholas2554]

A rare, overdue, courageous conversation by these guys. Well done. Blessed are the Peacemakers

[@Larrypint]

Mohammed Hijab is using taqiyya tactics in this interview . If you wanne see his real face watch his conversations with Apostate Prophet. He is not a peacemaker or at least wasn't in the last 10 years

[@mohammedal-khalidi4720]

@zenoarior sadqt

[@darckangelyounes]

@@Larrypint Hijjab is sincere, genuine, and straightforward. He wouldn't give such respect to someone as worthless and vulgar as that Apostate guy. For real, humility to the wrong person is a disrespect to one's self. Respect is commanded through genuineness, academia and rationality. These things are found in D. JP, and he earned respect even if we differ in many things. Isn't it time for you to discard such fanatics wrongly representing you?

[@tasdad2116]

@@darckangelyounes Here here to your comment.

[@Larrypint]

@@darckangelyounes who is the fanatic. The ex Muslim critical about sharia laws and Hadd punishments or Mohammed Hijab calling sharia law the perfect law and Hadd punishments as necessary specially against apostates... ?

[@halalgordonramsay4983]

Reading positive comments from everyone gives me the kind of hope I’ve never quite felt in reality, it’s weird like witnessing some kind of dream instilled deep under my consciousness. Thank you for all of you who’s been so positive, supportive, and respectful towards Mr. Peterson and Br. Hijab. May Allah unite us as an ummah.

[@alhamdulillhforislam458]

Ameen may Allah protect and unite as one ummah 😍🕌🇸🇴

[@EN-il7ht]

What made you pick that username?

[@jadavison]

No, the Muslim Allah is not the same as Judeo-Christian God.

[@cccpkingu]

We will never subject, nor confuse positivity with logic. You failed to pick up the glaring tautology defended by saying complexity doesn't necessitate gain of function.

[@tornadofay]

@@jadavison if the Judeo-Christian God is One God with no partners, the creator of heavens and earth and everything in the universe, there is nothing like him. then yes he is the same God. btw Allah is Arabic word which means The God, Arab Christians and Jews say Allah Also.

[@mmrafix11]

I have never seen anything like that on KZbin, both were respected 100% by positive comments.

[@UnyieldingSkeptic]

This is easily the most respectful and least stand-offish that i have ever seen hijab carry himself. I'm very glad that these two have had a conversation. However i do have VERY severe concerns about hijabs views and opinions and i do worry about how some of his other outlandish and frankly extreme videos will affect young muslims around the world.

[@libyanrevelutioner]

Womp womp

[@dianamehl7971]

JP would be stunned to know how much love and respect people in the Muslim community have for him. Hope we can see more discussions between these two! Brother Hijab, you have done well in representing our positions as Muslims, so thank you as well.

[@fs5775]

He did so well that I am now seeking him out elsewhere. I want to hear more from such an intelligent, articulate representative of Islam. The west needs to hear more from Muslim representatives like him!

[@hereweare9096]

@@fs5775 Mohammad hijab is a pseudo intellect.

[@mohamedkemmam4256]

Definitely. I have always looked him up.

[@roksandesmond1483]

@@hereweare9096 I smell negativity 😤

[@sinetteiversen9978]

Speaking as a Fellow gemalen I would be really affraid to Mary and get childten With Hijab

[@tahirsalkic3306]

I'm put at peace listening to this podcast. This is the first time in a long time I've heard a non-muslim not trying to make islam into a monster. It is a tragedy that I'm shocked when hearing such a honest discussion between two faiths. Jordan Peterson was a big influence on me in high school/ uni. Reading maps of meaning gave me a guidance, but nothing compares to the guidance given in Islam by Allah SWT.

[@joeroganstrtshots881]

Lmao Ali Dawah , from Mohammed Hijab’s camp believes in death penalty for apostates. Islam is reprehensible

[@turbogymdweeb184]

@@joeroganstrtshots881 Keep the drama between Ali Dawah and Acts17Apologetics out of this. These 2 are in no way representing their religions respectively. How does his opinion have anything to do with Islam for you to find it reprehensible?

[@oneeyed1055]

@@joeroganstrtshots881 please answer the question and don't run away. is it good or bad to kill apostate? is your morality objective or subjective? and what's wrong with it? you speak as a diety with absolute certainty therefore, you explanation to do. I hope people stand and defend your argument on your behalf if you are not strong enough to defend it

[@oneeyed1055]

@@joeroganstrtshots881 this is my second account. unfortunately KZbin don't allow me to comment in my first account. anyhow answer and I hope other people join in and tell me is killing apostate good or bad?

[@oneeyed1055]

@@joeroganstrtshots881 is ki lling apostate good or bad? ( the comment was deleted ) is your morality objective or subjective? and why is bad or good? answer the question please

[@xoxox1411]

Seriously, THIS is the most beautiful ''debate'' I've EVER seen in my 32 yrs of age ! I wish Mr. Peterson the best of the best of the best ... which in this life is hidaya ! and on top of that, I wish him the best in this world and the hereafter (Allahumma ameen) . I say that because I'm convinced with that comes the piece of mind in this life and in the end of the day, that is what everybody is looking for. Thank you so much for being THAT fair to each other. It were the best 1 1/2 hrs since a long long time for me.

[@user-wl2rb3rh5c]

Heart warming comment :) wish you also a good day!🙏

[@killpop8255]

I feel sorry for Peterson giving this guy the time of day.

[@alijamani]

The more I watch Jordan Peterson the I more admire his personality. A truly great person

[@mrhydrogen7459]

He's a scholar and a gentleman, the more I learn about JBP the more I like him

[@nanananu4542]

Yey, but he is a dhimmi

[@moha2056]

that what u get what you have an HONEST and INTELECTUAL person

[@issamedin306]

@@nanananu4542 You are the only one who say that.

[@Trilliman707]

@@nanananu4542 yes in Arabic dimmi means protected ones

[@andrebosma2937]

I really am enjoying this one. Both parties are willing to stand their ground while neither make an attempt to attack the other. Good genuine and honest discussion.

[@Lol-rj8ri]

@Melvin Mays and which one is that??

[@alafiatemon3035]

@@Lol-rj8ri Melvin Mays

[@Seeker7257]

Impatience in the video is stellar evident.

[@carscool5282]

The Crow how exactly was he lying? Would you mind explaining?

[@arkeusalexander9054]

@@carscool5282 Don't expect trash, losers and low lives to provide answers after making baseless accusations, just let him be. Death and entering the grave will soon or later make him come back to his senses.

[@nas3426]

Thank you God for existence of a man like Dr Peterson!! What an incredible human being. So much respect for him 🙏🏼♥️

[@Sinan.95]

What a respectful conversation!

[@yahyaelbakkali2868]

As a muslim you have my respect Dr. Peterson. Why? Because I think you're a good and honest person. You earned yourself a new subscriber!

[@lionheart4552]

Hijab talks with Peterson hoping he doesn't know the truth about Islam but anyone who knows anything about Islam knows that Muhammad was the most obvious false prophet In history. He was just a psychotic cult leading sexual predator.

[@Als090]

@@lionheart4552 🤣🤣 you’re a joke

[@newmin8705]

Such humility on the part of JP, especially towards the end. MH was right when he described him as authentic. This discussion just outright shows you how amazing it is to be a human being. Good job MH in prensenting Islam unfiltered, especially concerning the worldview/moral anchorage it gives you vs the all-over-the-place morality of post-modernism, that point locks everything perfectly . God bless.

[@fs5775]

Yeah, I agreed with MH's assessment of him - authentic. That's why I follow JP. But MH seems so genuine too which is why this conversation was so enjoyable to listen to.

[@genigee]

What does the Koran say about Principles.. Principle of Community (taxes) , Work (financial independence) etc?

[@iconoclast400]

@@genigee There's a tax system compulsory for Muslim in a Islamic state called zakat which directly goes to homeless poor people

[@crastinaterpro]

Loved the focus on understanding, Love & Peace.

[@magnusbragason7101]

So now after listening again the whole conversation, probably never ever heard someone so full of himself as Hijab ! That last question didnt do a lot for him bc he is 100% flawless and right in his worship and in himself. Omg...

[@juanaraiza6632]

I am what most would call an agnostic, almost borderline atheist, but I’ve always been fascinated with religion and how and why people believe with they believe. I have always found Islam in particular, to be a very beautiful religion. I see it as a religion of responsibility given the strict prayer routines, the diet and the belief system. It’s a form of art and hearing M.H. Sing verses then translate was a treat. Great conversation and it would be great to see him on again

[@osman7240]

Lovely, heart warming comment. You can listen to a lot more of the Quran recitation here on KZbin.

[@thegamechanger3317]

You can join multiple podcasts to learn more like open forum in ef dawah channel . Podcasts at subour ahmad channel. Hamza den channel : the arena. Sapien institute channel IERA channel Muslim sceptic channel And more... Or you can go to the nearest mosque and ask.

[@nahinisrat1182]

May Allah guide you to the straight path

[@gujjar78602]

@@LanaW123 it’s for God. They follow a scripture which tells them to dress in a certain way, so they follow. God has commanded them. They are clearly more modest and aren’t indulged in the materialistic temporary world. We have women undergoing all sorts of life threatening surgeries, dangerous diets and many more issues such as mental disorders because they can’t be “that” perfect being. Islam honours and protects women, Islam provided women with rights 1400 years ago when women’s suffrage was still going on even within the past century. Men and women covering their awrah protects them. Women are also protected from the wicked male lustful gaze. Women are also meant to be accompanied by male guardians. Following in course creates harmony and stability in society.

[@Wiimaster.]

@@LanaW123 A lack of common sense from your narrow angle of view, but from a different perspective, say the woman who was dressed, it stems from a good trait rarely seen in the west called modesty. The true perception and meaning of it and not your own opinion of it. See, the west sees dressing modestly (for females) as wearing clothes that are what they deem nice, comfortable and casual/formal with mild parts of the female skin (including bare swimwear) showing as being acceptable. But where's the modesty in that? I've never seen a nun during summer strip down to a tight dress or bare swimwear, regardless of weather or climate. Why? Go question her actions. And why is Mary always drawn being fully dressed from head to toe? If you say times have changed, well that means you submitted to the trials of time and temptations of the devil. We did not. We stood the trial of time and kept with our faith and deviated from the temptations of the devil. We dress more like the nuns and Mary than female Christians do today. The woman is the opposite of a man, and the male is attracted to the female. By nature of course, males find females attractive and vice-versa. So, how to solve this? Men lower their gaze around women and women dress properly and cover rather than flaunt and show off their bodies to accepting immodest men. With something as simple as this, followed by keeping in check the boyfriend/girlfriend drama, rape percentages, sex assaults, abortions will see an ENORMOUSLY dramatic decrease. Follow that by cuts in alcohol and gambling and you see again another drop in things like death rates, murders, suicides, accidents, drug abuse, jail percentages, etc. They're prohibited for a reason. So look into things a bit deeper sister. God bless.

[@yetanothername1131]

My heart is racing as I'm watching 2 of my most admired people having a great conversation. Love and respect to both of you.

[@mohammedall-hasan9101]

Honestly this made me tear up, truly blessed to be able to listen to these two intellectual giants

[@juwairiyaha.7160]

saaaame!!

[@greatarabia8091]

@@gitmehere1 I don't like his beard style but if you actually listen to him you'll realize he's actually a genius. Trust me; I don't use that word lightly.

[@safaadel3284]

I couldn’t be more grateful and happy for being muslim Alhmdulliah ❤️

[@joeyc1725]

Mohammed slept with a 9yo. Fact.

[@codybeaudin9946]

No part of the Islam ideology on this planet. No room. Their beloved prophet was a man who slept with children. Waged wars based on ideology and race. Believes in death for apostasy. Believes in death for homosexuals. Believes women are second class citizens. Believes in second class oppressive laws for non Muslims. Believes the Jewish people should be wiped out for simply being Jewish. Believes that girls as old as 6 can have the maturity and stature to sleep with a man. Believes children have no bodily autonomy outside of parents wishes. FFS the prophet believes in striking your own freaking wife... This ideology shouldn't be taken seriously in any manner, except to eradicate it.

[@cmarais-ks3kd]

JP, you're so smart. You lure him into babbling and at the end you corner him with intensity on peace. I could hear in your voice. This was a year ago and look where we are today after Oct.7th. The wolf between the sheep is finally exposed.

[@las933]

I think the reason Dr.Jordan Peterson is so relevant to many different audiences especially the Muslims..is him touching the core of what the human condition has become in our times...his integrity, humility and his reaching out for mutual understanding...Sir we are really grateful for you ! May you be guided to the best and straight path

[@yoshiebirdly1671]

@The Crow If you had any inch of slightly-slightest real understanding of Islam, you wouldn't spit the nonsense like this here and embarrass yourself in front of me, boy.

[@tyh3120]

@@yoshiebirdly1671 Where is the divine Quran? In which museum?

[@ajm1283]

@@tyh3120 I have one in my house.The words written in the Quran are divine

[@tyh3120]

@@ajm1283 Really? In the life time of Muhammad, there was no book written, right? So where is the first edition?

[@tyh3120]

@@ajm1283 Your current Quran was picked in 1924, in Egypt!!!!!!!!

[@naiibot]

i don't often leave comments but there was such respect, candid exchange, challenge, and beauty here. thank you to both Mohammed and Jordan for this. commendations (at the time of my reading) to the comment section here as well. we all have the capacity for love, glad to see it in action all around.

[@CricketDon-dn2vn]

Fantastic intellectual discussion, made my day.

[@ThePastaManCan]

Nice to see Hijab can be respectful in talks after seeing his videos.

[@fareshtak.touhami412]

Loved this. Learned a whole lot. I thought Brother Hijab could have had a stronger answer to Dr. P’s final question on how to fight the tyranny within you. For most Muslims it’s the 5 daily prayers-it’s stepping away from the world multiple times during the day to re-center yourself and submit to Allah by acknowledging ourselves as error-prone humans and asking Allah for rightful guidance. I used to find this a painful act of discipline to adhere to until I realized the importance of doing so.

[@craik7]

Getting back to the Quran and the Sunnah is how to fight the tyranny within you. يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْ ۖ فَإِن تَنَازَعْتُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى اللَّهِ وَالرَّسُولِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلًا O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result. Quran 4:59

[@hughir]

MH seemed a bit shy to be honest lol...that was the easiest question to answer.

[@rocksparadox]

''I thought Brother Hijab could have had a stronger answer to Dr. P’s final question on how to fight the tyranny within you.'' Of course he doesn't, he spouts Orthodox taqiyya in order to make islam look better than it really is.

[@Mahdi_Amine]

I was thinking the same thing .your comment is so smart .i couldn't have said it better myself

[@trinitymatrix9719]

how can islm be truth when the fabricated book q0ran is a hasty and erratic copy/paste work, drowning with errors and contradictions?