2015 Maps of Meaning Lecture 1: Introduction (Part 2)

[@Derna1804]

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[@sergemoshenkov8768]

Well JBP definitely went into Chaos and brought gold back for us... what a boss

[@anxhelakaca1249]

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[@rostislav2939]

How profound is that? I've never met any person to convey their thought in such reasonable manner. I just can't stop listening and making parallels with my own life. It's like a ton of gold prepared for you only and you can take it with your own tempo and he is sharing but not getting poorer. So fascinating to hear him explain things

[@HelloThere.....]

Dude read the Bible it's full of this if you read it. Myth is a MIDI file for morality. And the Bible is the top of the line

[@thexel133]

What an amazing teacher. We need to value this more in the states if we are going to recover. Who thought 10 years ago that KZbin would provide the best education?

[@andycircus6149]

Bloody love Peterson. What a hero! Erudite and compelling in ways most academics can only bitterly envy.

[@misssarahashplant31]

Dr Peterson very quickly became my favourite academic. Extremely articulate and never boring. He is also the only man I've seen who can wear a blazer over a T-shirt and still look attractive.

[@TellTheTruth_and_ShameTheDevil]

Marten Jeng/ Martin Yeng, I'd like to thank you a thousand times for recording the various lectures and making them available! 🙏What a great deed

[@paulmcloughlin5633]

This is a very strange Coke advert....

[@pwn3d542]

Paul Mcloughlin zero sugar, zero calories-same classic flavor. God is a metaphor, dragons are real. Coke zero.

[@LookatthatSH1T]

Has he ever mentioned his relationship with soft drinks? He seems to be drinking one in most of the videos I watch.

[@maatonne]

He was sick once and coughing, then he said: "this is what happens when I don't get enough diet coke"

[@thedevo01]

BUT HOLY FUCK IT WORKED

[@anthonymaniacimusic2336]

Your life sir! is a very strange coke advertisement , wow im deep.

[@stevenjbeto]

Dr. Peterson, Please put all of your lecture series on DVDs. Your work is too valuable to lose to the whims of KZbin or any other Internet format. Make a formal statement about where these DVDs can be purchased. Your work must be saved. I hope that you and your wife are feeling better soon. You are a world treasure. Steven James Beto

[@JonathanHilierChannel]

The internet is more permanent than CDs--CDs get scratched and are easily damaged.

[@stevenjbeto]

Jonathan Hillier The Internet is not as available to this old, yet inquisitive recipient of Social Security. I hope you do not find that the whims of Post-modernist politics effects more than lecture hall disruption.

[@wendellbabin6457]

​@@JonathanHilierChannel Only if you control the servers and the backups.

[@JefftheGeek]

1. Why people go to watch movies like Iron Man? Why people like those things? 2. The biological and cognitive effects of dealing with the Unknown, also the representations that we give to them - like Dragons in stories 3. The necessity of this Unknown as an antagonist to the Self - an Adversary, also represented in many of the myths and stories

[@joseribeiro5894]

"Why are dragons bad?" 30min explanation about our place in the world, and we love it.

[@Quis_ut_Deus]

I found this question odd. What would mean a 'good' dragon? A innocuous gentle pet dragon? A dragon embodies the terrible forces of the wild nature and of the world. It's the ultimate apex predator. The 'good' dragon appears to me as a deceitful seducer.

[@HelloThere.....]

@@Quis_ut_Deus he answered this question though. Dragons can be good. They represent the unknown potential of chaos which both good and bad can come of

[@Quis_ut_Deus]

​@@HelloThere.....​Yes I understand. To me the question is as amiguous as what a dragon can be. Because the question isn't about why unknown or chaos is bad or good but is a dragon always bad. Giving what dragons in our culture look like they don't seem to be friendly. It will be otherwise obvious to claim that the unknow and/or chaos can appear in the path to attain a greater good. It's less obvious to say that a dragon is good.

[@youtubeps5476]

Probably the dragon isn't "good" but the path which you have to take in order to content with the dragon may lead and often does lead to a flourishing self, not by overcoming fear but by becoming more confident and competent. Just like the client who went to see embaging. So maybe the gold/virgin isn't something external, but can be thought of something internal that leads to sth external. Maybe the point can even be made that the dragon as such isn't bad, but if you don't contend with it, you become worse, so the dragon is growing. In a nutshell, I think it's more about how you approach the unknown.

[@youtubeps5476]

So if you don't approach the dragon at all, the dragon (the unknown) grows and the balance between order an chaos shifts towards chaos and that is the bad thing. Like he said, a bit of a dragon is necessary for living a meaningful life in the curvy pathway between yin and yang.

[@eleannakritikaki4811]

The last time I felt like this was when I was meditating Anatta style (concept of no self). Awesome Dr Peterson. I discovered you by stumbling upon that video with the SJWs ganging up on you outside uni and I liked your face, tone of voice and use of words and decided to check you out. OMFG, thank you so much for this treat your lectures are (pharmacology undergrad and neuroscience enthusiast)

[@markboggs746]

like so many... :)

[@w1zzk1dd]

Martin the 🐐

[@anitodimitrov]

This just totally opened up a door to the way the organization I work at operates. Potential and reality, attention and listening. In corporate environments we often work with people's potential instead of their current capabilities and this creates sometimes amaizng leaders, other times a huge mess that it's hard to get out of. Especially when it comes to the size of the dragon we push them to battle with. Thank you for that, Dr. Peterson, as always a huge inspiration and source of knowledge. I'll try to translate your message to my colleagues during our next "TED talk" meeting.

[@septemberdreamer2651]

Always fascinates me with me profound insights

[@RunRaeRun]

These lectures are great, I really wish they were also available as a podcast, because this is great background learning material. Thank you for posting though!

[@amarebare8811]

You know you can convert these to mp3 and put them on something right?

[@zitools]

@@amarebare8811 wait how do you convert youtube videos to mp3...or even download onto my desktop?

[@Ophio117]

You can just Google something like “KZbin to mo3 downloader” there are a number of tools for this, browser extensions and also websites that don’t require the extension installation.

[@alexandrujitaru4082]

Thank you from my heart. I feel what you say. You help me so much. Not for one for all videos. And i will read your books

[@Mumsy_Soap]

Yes thanks Martin!

[@IamMunyan123]

Man. Paying attention is the human currency. Love it. Love it.

[@Hush4Me1]

What carl jung is to Peterson, is what Peterson is to me. He has answers to question's I've never thought of. However what he's talking about in the end, I find myself over doing it. I'm too aware of what I'm saying and it sometimes stops me from talking altogether :/.

[@evanmay8145]

that just means you know you have nothing valuable or worthwhile to say at that time, which is hard to abide by but worth it i suspect

[@libraryofthemind]

nice... you laid it out very plainly here.... still want this idea of following the truth by paying attention to sink in deeper... sometimes I completely understand and sometimes I forget I understand... if that makes sense....

[@nagycsaba802]

We need you! Just want to say thank you and i wish you nothing but good healt and success in life!

[@isaachoverson]

So cool to see his growth from this point

[@MysteriousSlip]

I discovered him back around this time due to my hobby of watching lectures. Ended up binging everything he had at the time. haha When you think of Peterson as a typical (but very thoughtful) 9 to 5 commuting to work college professor, and then watch what happened to him in real time as it unfolds....it was surreal.

[@MsZsc]

@@MysteriousSlip i appreciate his work pre 2017 and 2018 but am severely dissapointed in this actions and words since then

[@ryanoliveroland6379]

21:54 = I wonder why Tolkien used the motif of "the eye" of Sauron in the Lord of the Rings to represent evil

[@jonathanbraithwaite7063]

I suspect it has something to do with the intersection of (the capacity for) malevolence and our awareness of our own vulnerability. The phrase, "When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back at you" seems to be pretty analogous here.

[@learntofly]

Martin, thank you so much for putting such a lot of Professor Peterson's course content online. Jordan, I appreciate what you're doing to stem the tide of ideology and make the world a better place to be. My concern is that the vast majority of people will never be able to make conscious these ideas -- they'll never hear them as your audience is necessarily limited to the already-educated, and who knows if they could grasp it anyway. I guess the way to reach people is through archetypal stories: the Iron Mans and the There's No Such Thing as a Dragons. But what guarantee do you have the ideas will be internalised, and how much practical, relevant, modern insight is missed through abstracted, ancient stories? Have you found archetypal stories change, or at least inform, behaviour? Maybe you cover this in later segments of the course I've yet to view. I can hear the pillars of Buddhism echoing through much of what you say: pay attention; remove yourself from yourself and view your actions and emotions as a passive bystander. I suppose you refer to Buddhists when you say people have been thinking about paying attention for thousands of years. Anyways thanks for what you're doing here and elsewhere. It's been a huge help in my life and I'm spreading the word.

[@gabrielorville821]

Everyone tries to dodge responsibility, so what good does it makes to you to throw it on someone else? You noticed that, perhaps, people around you need these ideas, well now that you did it is your responsibility.

[@JacquelynNewmandivine]

Exactly

[@HelloThere.....]

Who's Martin?

[@OFFICIALjjbj2009]

​@@HelloThere.....the person filming these for Dr Peterson

[@peterv7258]

Why is it entertaining? For me, it captures a strong nostalgic feeling of my experience of reading comic book stories in my childhood, and there is something Edenic about the way one experiences the world and fantasy when you are a child, and so to have the thing which was a deeply personal inner experience of the imagination fully realized in a way which validates the aesthetic and vision of how it was experienced and can be shared with those around you is a chilling and thrilling thing, as if someone plumped your very dreams and materialized them in front of you.

[@ivorycybernetics]

gratitude unyielding. i am humbled and blessed to be able to somewhat sit in those classes.

[@reecesales9545]

True inspiration to me incredible man

[@ryanoliveroland6379]

24:55 = excellent advice

[@mellohi2899]

what you said at the end reminds me of Alan Watts 🖤🖤

[@wafa0196]

It reminded me of echart Tolle too :))

[@NaturalEarthTones]

This is everything I have been persecuted for in my life and been called an addhole for being the person to say detached words and paying attention. 🙏🏻

[@MaoDev]

yeah, sure

[@alecianewman4226]

Thank you, Martin

[@mattgrover3096]

Well.... Thank you Martin Xang!

[@Harryx74]

10:40 I think the dragon from the previous lecture symbolizes awareness/consciousness (i don't know the difference). If JP says there's an optimal amount of the size of the dragon, that means lack of awareness means you're too oblivious and dumb to understand your surroundings. But too mich awareness, and you turn into the underground man from Notes from the Underground by Dostoevsky. You're too hyperaware to the point when you get a sort choice paralysis, and time passes, and you become spiteful because you knew you had potential, but you lost your chance, like the underground man.

[@BoobleBlasted]

I like your analogy/story with the dragon.

[@misssarahashplant31]

Detaching yourself from your thoughts and then watching how you feel when you say what you say. Could you compare that to the Mousetrap in Hamlet? It's a very existential play so perhaps you could.

[@nHautamaki]

'We believe in things that are not real, like potential, because we act like potential is real.' I don't think that's necessarily a great argument. Wouldn't it just as correct if not moreso to say that 'We believe that potential can potentially be real?' We certainly don't assume that someone will definitely meet their potential. We don't act as if every negative potential outcome is definite (or if someone did, we'd call that pathological'. So I would say there's definitely a clear and well defined delineation between matter and energy that we think are definitely real, and stories and potential that we only think might possibly be real or might possibly represent something that actually is real. I feel like this guides a lot of Prof Peterson's thinking and it's a sort of like a philosophical nitpick, but I do think it can have serious implications. For example Prof Peterson denies a determinist world based on a tangential issue to this, and based on the seeming randomness of quantum physics. I would say that there are good reasons that the determinist/materialist world is the default scientific viewpoint and I think that Prof Peterson sort of dismissing that view as simplistic or naive is a bit problematic when I don't see (so far) how he has a very solid refutation of the materialistic world.

[@nHautamaki]

***** Thanks for the clarification. After having watched all the rest of your lecture series (which I enjoyed immensely so thank you very much for making them publicly available) I think I have a much better idea now of where you're coming from and what you mean exactly.

[@LostProgress133]

yes

[@pkeggle4085]

Dear Dr Peterson,, with ALL the health problems you/your family has suffered, I HOPE you have stopped drinking things that pollute the body and research proves Causes massive health problems, like liver failure & even cancer! Water is the drink of Life!

[@dawsonjgyou]

Why do what is right? Is there even such a thing as right?" These are the basic questions that must be asked to get Ethics off the ground, which is why Ayn Rand begins her Objectivist Ethics by asking and answering them.

[@arrowb3408]

Hey, Jorden. Unbelievable you could non stopping keep on talking on and on without taking a breath at all :). But this lecture is really salt of wisdom. Damn cool and teach kids to think in a reverse way. I like it Yes, sometimes we need to think on the other way round instead moving in the same direction of our unchanged daily life.....STF............

[@sergemoshenkov8768]

I'm chaaaanginggggg

[@markboggs746]

...like an amphibian... between the margins...

[@calvinheadley5218]

Wow. Just. ... Wow. A mora to the story, if one can be said to be had. Life is hard. So, tend to your dragons.

[@victorguajardo7105]

Is it fair to equate potential to future? As in they are the same.

[@terrencemedders1867]

VICTOR GUAJARDO, perhaps not, but the majority of potential in so much as it could be quantified is located within the future. Additional space, but especially additional time exponentially increases potential.

[@johnnymellon7414]

Thank you for uploading these and making them easy accesible, extremly interesting approaches. Thou; I have a problem agreeing with you on an aspect of "modern science", or maybe it is only a misunderstanding of terms. You say that "thinking" and not observation is holding the prime position, while i percive that "observation" is actually the prime motivator. Even the largest machine ever build by humanity (LHC) is an instrument of observation. But I might be wrong after all...

[@ahmedmohamedabd-ellah3208]

Thanks

[@edgeleading-c8m]

Ti rispetto

[@deminybs]

good stuff here

[@abelp40]

Anyone know abt. this “unit 52”? I search and see results as unit 731. Seems similar but have to verify. Will do further research.

[@jan.dafrique]

What is the "little story" that he refers to at 05:17 ? The "literal story of our species as a biological entity" (05:55). I assume it's Adam and Eve?

[@Fanofjambi]

Wow, zero dislikes : 10K views

[@iannischamberland17]

Isn’t dangerous to say that when you say something that you feel makes you week, it’s not true and you should stop say it? That you should only say what’s make you feel strong. For example some people feels strong by bullying others, or in totalitarism what dictator says make them feel strong I guess, but is it right?

[@allenwarren1269]

25:25 Kinesiology

[@davidgibb4551]

dis-united with what? yourself? society?

[@karmacounselor]

deepak chopra also says watch what you say

[@manmeetsingh1712]

As an Indian, Deepak Chopra is an idiot.

[@karmacounselor]

Manmeet Singh why?

[@ForeverJack69]

I came here for the 7:00 part

[@lioneddy6702]

And all this is just lecture 1

[@lukecanning7013]

29:10 bosses the end of the vid with the coke

[@michaelgallagher2092]

👍

[@danielrothstein1409]

not many returned from break..

[@TheJohnGram]

Eats its own brain = Sea Squirt

[@misssarahashplant31]

Vero nihil verius.

[@artudo]

If I would have been his student before he became famous i would literally think I am cheating at life.

[@arrowb3408]

BTW, it is pretty philosophical thought for us to love our enemy. Yes, I can. But definitely no, I don't and won't to the one whom I loathe and coward bulling type of chicken persons at all. Enemy means we compete, but bulling chickens are not the enemy but distaste persons without virtue in their heart at all .........................STF..............................................................

[@xyxy5978]

The sad thing is that the mother got away with not doing anything and not fighting the dragon.

[@Charlytonight]

Where can exactly find that exercises? I can't found them

[@zitools]

for being a good person, dr. peterson chose the wrong coke product. well, i guess, at least its not pepsi.

[@edgeleading-c8m]

I am sorry.

[@m.g.9334]

The world isn't irrational, it isn't rational either it's arational ;) Rationality is a human feature not universal feature!

[@markboggs746]

Is it not chaos then order then chaos then order then...?

[@dianedevery3711]

All words, descriptions, adjectives are of a human feature.

[@markboggs746]

The scientific method can only tell you if a hypothesis is "wrong". Morality tries to tell you what is "right".

[@DitoCapsuleFan]

Islam is cancer I agree that morality evolved, but I disagree that it’s different

[@JeffMTX]

That’s a pretty good point :)

[@RoboThePanda]

Skibitabapodooda

[@robertimmanuel577]

../.,

[@edgeleading-c8m]

Ed ed ed ed ly….

[@ICarus-eu3jv]

Kermit

[@leftleaf3590]

Stop saying things that make you weak....

[@AC-hg5id]

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