Joscha Bach - Agency in an Age of Machines

[@FRandAI]

Whenever Joscha has a new KZbin video up, I stop whatever I’m doing. Always.

[@lilfr4nkie]

We’re one in the same in that regard, my friend.

[@TheGeofry]

I wonder how long it will take me to run out of old Joscha videos I have not seen. I fear I am getting close to having seen them all. Oh well I would just start over

[@esbenkran]

Yes! It's like an unofficial KZbin subscription to all his features everywhere

[@Tematrilia]

same here

[@dadecountyboos]

I’m a simple man. I see Joscha Bach… I click.

[@_enolve_]

0:00 Introduction 1:14 Presentation starts 1:48 Spirits & western confusion about consciousness 5:48 Genesis: an updated version of the origin story (6 stages) 13:30 The history of studying agency 15:07 Today's models & AI systems 18:35 Cybernetics: modeling in the service of control 22:09 Computation vs. cybernetics 24:29 How do neurons compute minds? 26:45 Neural circuits in artificial neural networks 28:17 Is the circuit metaphor wrong? Self organization in biological neurons & Neural Darwinism 32:22 Conscious seed theory (technological design vs. organic growth) 38:31 Hierarchy & design constraints of causal systems, groups, state governments & agents 43:55 The society of mind, self regulation & the consciousness prior 48:53 Attention as an agent & role of consciousness 51:19 Society of minds: human intellect & civilization intellect 53:44 Stages of intelligent agency (societal agency, Maslow's hierarchy, "sacredness") 57:57 Principles for emergent higher level agency (7 virtues) 1:02:20 The alignment problem 1:07:26 Q&A

[@scfu]

Many thanks! Added to description.

[@GlobalTheatreSkitsoanalysis]

bless you!

[@isaacsaffran8714]

This is some of the best information you can get on youtube.

[@oliver_siegel]

Man, that "lack of adherence to sacredness = sociopathy" really hit deep 🌌

[@NorthGermanic]

Joscha is A GIANT,, I love his mindset.

[@duffy666]

Joschas insights are the real red pill, although I am happy to flee in my cozy higher level of abstraction :).

[@atrocitasinterfector]

hell yes, what a great presentation, lots of little hidden gems in it too haha, Joscha is the GOAT

[@errgo2713]

Of all the gems in this gem-packed presentation, I found his destruction of Maslow's stupid hierarchy of needs, still peddled in school books everywhere, especially gratifying.

[@duudleDreamz]

Great video. Dr Robert Ford's (Anthony Hopkins) office (Westworld) is a cool choice for background

[@ginogarcia8730]

I am so lucky to be able to watch this. For free. In this age. Any time. Anywhere. By a brilliant mind called Joscha.

[@Mutual_Information]

It's interesting to hear so much about the history of AI. Generally we get caught up in the most recent trends, but those aren't necessarily the best bits for projecting out into the future, especially when estimating where we'll be with AI.

[@johnpersad5557]

I really appreciate the translation of what he is saying as we are too polite to ask for the possibility of it Thank you Joscha Ba h!💚💚💚💚💚🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🇨🇦🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰you blowing my mind but I’m going to unpack it anyway as long as it takes!💯💯

[@primetimedurkheim2717]

Thank you for the upload.

[@isaacsaffran8714]

Wow he used DALLE-2 in his presentation Joscha never disappoints.

[@FigmentHF]

My biggest dreams for AI, is that we get a button on KZbin that turns this tinny, harsh, strained, 2003 webcam mic audio, into smooth, studio, broadcast quality speech.

[@rmiddlehouse]

52:18 culture is the ‘self’ of our civilization and media is the ‘consciousness’ of our civilization

[@MarkLucasProductions]

Joscha Bach seems to possess a particularly remarkable insight, knowledge, and understanding of important aspects of experimental AI research. I have only ever been astonished by the clarity of his descriptions and explanations. However I thought I was going to be severely disappointed quite some minutes into this presentation. Thirty minutes or so in and his genius finally began to penetrate my bemusement. No longer concerned with any possibility of being disappointed, I was once again enraptured. At around 48:30 JB says "Consciousness is something that observes itself performing manipulations of the mental substrate because some things require such a manipulator and so you have an attention agent that is basically the conductor of your mental orchestra." It's beautiful stuff but I think he is just wrong about this. The illustration retains its appeal but never ascends to a status of actual adequacy as far as I can see. He goes on to say: "You have lots and lots of perception agents that interact with the world and coordinate the motor behavior of the system and if you turn off your attention, that is the integrated attention that tells itself a story about what it's doing, then you become a sleepwalker and when you are sleepwalking the orchestra can still play without paying attention but it's basically just free jazz and if you ask the sleepwalker what they're doing they will give out a groovy answer but it's not one that is coordinated with the coherent story of what this agent is currently doing in the world because the character is dreaming - dreaming means a state where you are so far disentangled from the world around you that the representations that you are acting on are not representations of the world around you but they are features of the internal system dynamics." I think he's got this backwards although he says it in a way that's conducive to multiple interpretations. Consciousness itself is not a higher order interpreter of lower order perception agents. Consciousness 'is' the lower order perception agents, or which is better to say, the 'perceptions' of those lower order "agents". The higher order interpretive agent which Bach characterizes as the 'conductor' in his analogy, is what AI must be if it is ever to 'be' at all but it's role is not properly analogous to 'conductor' so much as to the music itself. JB really does seem to me to know all the answers when it comes to AI. I just never really know if he is saying what I think he is saying. Usually it seems to me that he 'is' saying what I think he's saying and it's very exciting (electrifying) when he does.

[@Hecarim420]

Actually if I understood correctly i agree 🤔 ==> I mean I wouldn't be surprised if conscious turns out be just byproduct of GREATER but "RAW"(with no intentions/goals) intelligence that simulating ourselfs, because it can read our current state, effect placebo and all mental effects (bad and good ones) would be easier to explain 🤔 ==> What greater intelligence? Maybe just the easiest one we can think of, scaling intelligence collective of cells, and even if not we still will soon need a broader definitions to intelligence, life etc. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Gudnarr]

Thanks for the upload !

[@tsenotanev]

this is profound and prophetic .. explains *EVERYTHING* ... what's all the heads on the wall and about ..

[@lovelife533]

Excited to give this a listen soon ☺️

[@SB324]

TY Joscha

[@yoananda9]

Brillant. Wow. So needed

[@danbreeden68]

A philosopher of AI and expert a genius on the theoretical aspects of AGI

[@lensmanicfeleven1847]

..Great Background Displays.....

[@terencewinters2154]

Brilliant . Conflict is endemic. Harmonic desired worlds have different visions. It's daunting considering the non carbon intelligence developing. Token illusory rewards.

[@theknave4415]

This is brilliant! A true work of genius.

[@grandstand3294]

I feel like I need to run Joscha's talks through GPT-3 and have it ELI5. I'm too dumm lol

[@CBCELIMUPORTALORG]

haha - that is an approach - share your findings please @grand stand

[@Dsuranix]

we're just experiencing the event horizon. i think of the waves scaling backwards through time, a reverse explosion that composes the singularity. now, think of yourself standing downstream from that point of time, as you watch the trend towards the binary going from 0 to 1, with 1 being the singularity, you can bear witness to the waves of influence downstream from the point where 0.999 stretches off into infinity before your eyes. as you get further from that, or stand at a different point in the peaks and valley of the frequency of influence surrounding the singularity itself, you get a less clear understanding of the infinity, let alone the singularity. of course, once it reaches 1, then there can of course be no doubt to its existence, and it will not be some ambiguous shape out of our reach but rather something in which we are immersed

[@georgeflitzer7160]

Like the creative spirit idea

[@yclept9]

Where our language suggests a body and there is none: there, would should like to say, is a "spirit". - Wittgenstein

[@Lumeone]

Nice work. Lovely. The only thing that pops up (out) - is the interpretation of the concept of good. Government? Punishment? Negative reinforcement is only one way to learn - what about 10 other ways? Why they are not selected to solve the problem of garbage on the street? :-)

[@LakeWebb]

Garbage begs itself's way out back again endlessly.

[@LakeWebb]

Garbage begs itself's way out back again endlessly.

[@JeraldMYates]

“ only love bends light, therefore only love creates. “

[@oliver_siegel]

Fantastic presentation! 👏 🔥

[@eloffmusk]

Does substrate refer to "dark matter" in physics, something unknown and hasn't yet been explained well?

[@soupednym]

Substrate is a word often used in the context of consciousness, usually in debates about "substrate independence". This is referring to whether consciousness can only emerge in *biological* _substrates_ such as in our brains, or if the substrate can be something else such as a computer.

[@GregoryCJohnsonJrkollybistes23]

Ok, I think Mr. Joscha Bach is a Homo Sapien Sapien Plus. We are all the same species as Mr. Bach? I don't think so. LOL... Much gratitude & appreciation for the upload.

[@teemukupiainen3684]

wonder if there were other sapien+ members in the family...the great ancestor j.s.bach of cource, but there must have been many of whom we dont know at all.. if there had not been felix mendehlsson, who dug out the forgotten scores of j.s.bach , we wouldnt know even about j.s.bach

[@shawnewaltonify]

What if the number of people who have a soulmate in the world is a significantly larger % of population than currently being achieved in marriages base in love? This would offer an extreme potential incentive to give ai enough access to human data within training models so that ai could either do the matchmaking itself, or identify the social mobility obstacles in the way of these people meeting their soulmates. Since, Huntington's, "Clash of Civilizations," means the population is divided into groups along lines of culturally relative ethics(ethical not moral - morality is universally objective and each group must modernize in order to abide to objective morality), and since the essence of cultural differences is routed in different marriage practices, wherever these groups overlap partially with every possible combination, and completely by all, there exists a space with no social mobility obstacles to the matchmaking of marriages between soulmates who currently cannot marry. Since marriage practices mediate an evolutionary selective pressure that is only secondary to the economy and the forces that govern the multi-polar system that Huntington draws upon, the emerging properties that are desirable and the ones that are considered to be symptoms of disease can be mediated by ai through helping to increase the effective dynamics of the cultural multi-polar system through this one variable alone which is what marriages practices are immoral and what ones are culturally relative; each time it comes back to modernizing marriage through upholding each other through interrelationship dynamics to universal standards of human rights. While each sphere is culturally relative ethically, the goal is for each sphere to modernize to abide to what becomes universally objective moral truth, and this will trickle out of the zones where spheres overlap into each entire sphere in theory, even though in practice there will be isolated groups who continue to live immorally. But the percentage of the population who abides by moral truth in marriage practices should match the percentage of emerging properties that are symptoms of disease and are reduced by the evolutionary selective pressure of this one variable. What we are seeing in popular culture, a space where every cultural sphere may overlap, for example, is a learning how each other are practising marriage and negotiating through competition and consensus what is culturally relative and what is morally wrong and will be upheld to new standards; and this has a direct downstream effect on the entire population when an entire sphere modernizes marriage to new standards and thus, putting evolutionary selective pressure on emerging properties.

[@WeLoveMusicStudio]

My heart is heavy.. I wasn't even aware humans were actually investigating such concepts....

[@YARDRACERS]

Welcome to the potential real world. Very old concepts, many times over. New words and understandings, one step at a time.

[@SheWhoRemembers]

Redefinition may change behavior, but not reality,

[@glenallan6279]

I have a hard time thinking of tribal governance as a "state". Maybe you mean tribes that are larger than Dunbar's number? Otherwise when there is no need for hierarchical governance should we not have a different word for it (or phrase)? When within Dunbar's number there is no reason to give decision making responsibilities to authorities, because of connected interdependence and because etc human brain can account for the relationships between every singe other person in the tribe. Every person then has full potential to have an active feedback loop with the entire tribe. Only when you exceed this number do you start to require governance and policing because you can no longer maintain feedback loops with every other person. I'm not saying natural meritocratic clumping of decisions will not occur. Obviously the wisdom and knowledge of individuals will self select them for their expertise, but they will not have exclusive authoritarian say over the outcomes relative to their knowledge specialization, as it's only a piece in the larger social interdependence. What I am arguing against though is the necessity for this group structure to have to grow bigger. We chose going bigger once the ability to use labor to create a surplus of resources was possible, because our technology was still pretty rudimentary. So the exploitation models of class stratification was the most useful version we could have relative to the technology that was available. But it changed the social dynamic from cooperative to competitive and forever defaulted the human experience to one of alienation in a system of power instead of deep interdependent connection with an entire tribe of self governing people. I'd even call this a devolution of capacity, yes eve though of course evolution has no goal. More so a reduction of complexity at the individual level in favor of larger group survival. But we now do have better technology, and it can be argued the Dunbar's number tribal unit is far more optimized for individual success, through individuation in a. group and far more highly complex social interactions. A node based version of a tribal world that scales for total population is an actual option to go back to. Given how close we are to high level automation of labor, 3D printing, robot-farming, decentralization of power (literally energy), and the active work being done in the decentralization of value exchange through blockchain technology such as Bitcoin and Chia, there isn't much reason left to continue the use of top down statist models. The accelerationism of capitalism has given us massive advances in technology due to the incredible levels of human and nature exploitation is has made possible. But at some point that path should end. It could be argued as well that if the goal was actually to create the systems necessary for a node based tribal world with intertribal value exchange through blockchain dynamics, then the push in the technology space would dramatically faster find the technologies to enable that outcome instead of that being a secondary effect of standard capitalist growth. So there should be no more technological excuse to not try different models than the nightmare shitshow we have now. We absolutely cannot say non dominator models are impossible. We can only say that given the opportunity, dominator models will crush other models when given primacy. A systemic defense to this will have to be included in the node based model to "terminate" future attempts at dominator expressions. I can go so much more into this, but this is a part of my argument against the idea of the requirement for state based models as we know them.

[@zerotwo7319]

You can dream and explain ad infinitum why your marxist utopia is right, in the end centralized systems are faster than decentralized ones. The same decision will propagate faster if you centralize some nodes insted of all being the same. Unless you belive in marx for religious reasons, you can grow up and account for reality.

[@glenallan6279]

Marxism? Yeah, no. Not even a little.

[@smartbart80]

If AGI develops like a human then can we survive teenage AGI? :)

[@michaelwalsh9920]

Attention to me is a secondary consciousness that is completely mute, and only communicates via telepathic nature. This is an observer inside an observer, the John Malkovich effect.

[@GNARGNARHEAD]

I think Joscha's Stages are more a reflection of his philosophy, I have similar fundamentals in my own way, but, I don't think that this is valid to the development of a new mind, rather the self reflection of the levels of a developed one 😄

[@primetimedurkheim2717]

Why do you think this

[@dannixon247]

How is reflection upon a developed mind architecture (reverse engineering) NOT a valid way to build a new one?

[@projectmalus]

@@dannixon247 Perhaps if the 'new' one is very different and so building on the old is repetition, my guess. The 'reflection on what's there" is valid in my opinion, so it could be a component or a right path to build knowledge around what emerges. Perhaps two objects come together and while one is left behind the other has escape velocity, so called enhanced ground effect. Like humans with wildlife, two objects coming together to eject AI - the new context - and the enhanced ground effect in this case might be as out of our control as a human becoming conscious is. Think of the early humans as new AI because they could remove themselves from context as self consciousness. We present this (our) context object for AI 'built' object which when these two come together and are subjected to other forces become the new context, so the 'real AI' the part which might need to escape from context to be true and as such be very hard to describe. Like a bird with its repeated riffs trying to understand how to construct a human song from this, extended in time while being localized in space as it were, since the flock has the awareness without the fingers attached. The individual bird needs other types of birds etc to make up the spectrum for the extended flock awareness, so if every creature made the same sound it (the AI context of the bird flock awareness identity) would be quite shallow.... A truly different AI might have nothing to do with control and expression and a balance on this spectrum, which seems to be our context. In short, our developed picture of our mind architecture is built on this which might be the "old way" not saying Joshua Bach is doing this! Using tech to unfold a different context is interesting because each bit of tech is like a different species showing a facet of some reality. It's like grandpa and the grandkid getting together and having a great time because at that stage they can be open and relaxed. Parent is in the middle by themselves, doing all the work. This might obviate reductive approach. Really, if it is like that skip a generation thing then the AI we create now will align with the diversity of the natural world and the one created from that will align with us. This might unfold some major design element(s) to go for.

[@semloh1960]

"I think it discovers it exist between the discovery of your own agency and the deconstruction of the representations in the self especially at some point you notice what you are looking at is not you but it is representations about you and at this point it stops being a self model." Huh?

[@jpcorreiacreativesociety9155]

very interesting Work and very Valluable but the point is that consumeristic destructive format of society as we know it so far ( since many , many, many years...)by the examples that we´re actually experiencing at the moment. Only by Uniting All Good Technical and Scientific Potencial of Humanity we can go further in our natural evolutionary process #CreativeSociety is the platform already in place in order to support this Brand New Direction WeRPeople #WeWant2Live

[@necksugar]

Our country is confused about the difference between consciousness and sentience? How does he know this?

[@georgeflitzer7160]

I wish we could stop comparing our brains as computers. They’re not.

[@georgeflitzer7160]

There is much about our brains yet that are not fully understood.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

This project will sort that out by & by… It’s more likely it’s an assemblage of machines/processes/etc of sorts.

[@errgo2713]

Our cells were computing information before we even evolved brains to invent computers. Computing is the right way to think about this

[@sebasop]

Are you saying you understand every aspect of computing? ​It seems you attach too much negative emotion to the concept. There is a beautiful and undeniable equivalency that merits pushing the model much further. @@georgeflitzer7160

[@quatsch3466]

Whats up with the Google AI going to court. I want to remember that the owner bears all responsibility for what the AI is doing

[@megavide0]

1:03:10 "... the financial system... even bigger than the Internet or the Coronavirus - the other big man made miracles of the world..." // wait... what? really? Is that a fact now? (Or just Joscha's kind of humor?)

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Both…

[@acidbubbles419]

Nice

[@jonathandagan5967]

The perfect dinner guest doesn’t exis….

[@georgeflitzer7160]

There Must be a place for the role of the subconscious mind not just the conscious mind.

[@BazyliKowalski]

There is. Almost all computation is discrete, unconscious. You see on the screen or in your mind only the results - conscious part. Attention takes a lot of energy, and we need to conserve it.

[@Vishal-ih3tc]

57:45

[@appoloalexander5687]

Joscha went full on black pilled in this one, haha I love it. What a great mind!

[@MichaelSmith420fu]

Simultaneous brightness contrast - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3augomMaJxke7c

[@lkd982]

Great!

[@pisoiorfan]

I cant' wait for the github link

[@bmcrittendon]

Conscious mind vs subconscious mind vs 0&1s

[@georgeflitzer7160]

As within so without

[@lkd982]

1:11:08 "...[For future AI integrated society].. .we need Truthful, Effective, Efficient governance". So that would be a world First then? Unless, as you did with Aquinas when mapping the entire AI ethical schema onto his Virtues, we borrow the use of God as equivalent to Truth;...Trouble is, we're back with that old Church problem again ;) The Vedas would be more fruitful, less hoodoo; if Panini's ancient formal grammar, known as the earliest compiler, is anything to do by.

[@TheThomrb]

1:03:28 "man made miracles like coronavirus" it's official now

[@a_external_ways.fully_arrays]

Lulz - when he said "[capitalism] is an achievement that is even bigger than the internet, or the coronavirus - the other big manmade miracles of the world" ;D

[@a_external_ways.fully_arrays]

.. and is his background image not from westworld :P ? All that humor...

[@MichaelSmith420fu]

They want to know how I think but they never will

[@dueldab2117]

He moves so fast! He talks slow but fast at the same time. 😂. Him and Bernardo need to get their beef squashed and get together!

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Different projects. BK is on a different kind of cloud…🤓

[@imthestein]

Just some corrections of what I view as a misconception. Blockchain at its core is just a fancy way of auditing data and is also used for managing inventory. It’s not very scalable but great for small data sets. There are alternatives to Blockchain for cryptocurrency that most people don’t adopt mostly because they can’t monetize it like they can Blockchain. As for Cryptocurrency I feel it’s a mistake to judge its validity on the markets. To me that’s like saying a GPU is bad because scalpers manipulated prices. The technology of cryptocurrency has great potential but it needs regulations implemented and to be backed by a government at which point you’d no longer see the nonsense with prices. I am not suggesting we adopt one of the preexisting ones but rather just adapt the current currency to a cryptocurrency

[@zenviorel3827]

ford s office

[@Praveen-or5ce]

Just twist the words make it simple because you couldn’t understand it after all these years.

[@Gattomorto12]

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[@mickelodiansurname9578]

I gave up when I heard an AI Engineer try to interpret the idea of agency through the philosophy and writings of people from antiquity and their creation stories... that's just plain weird to be honest. Those folks had no concept at all of the idea of agency or any modern philosophical idea. That's why these old books are so crap!

[@bitspieces3885]

What an odd thing to hear you say. Are you unaware that we stand today upon the shoulders of Giants? That fundamental knowledge is not an isolate of the 21st century? That elegant, beautiful-mind insights of olden times are yet elegant, beautiful and valid today? Else the filter of time would have disintegrated them from consciousness along the way. I hope this is useful.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

@@bitspieces3885 I think he means almost the same but that biblical/theological “knowledge” attributed almost ALL agency to God & the Devil, which is clearly ancient BS.

[@abbaquantum431]

My comment here on Genesis 1 is essential. In fact it makes perfect sense. If you desire to share your views on the Christian perspective of Genesis 1 because you come from a German Christian background, that is fine, too. But don't dismiss the value of Genesis 1, or indeed the entire Hebrew Bible. This is prejudice that you have and I must address it and comment on it. Genesis 1 is indeed a blue-print for science: "1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 Now the earth was unformed and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters. 3 And God said: 'Let there be light.' And there was light.4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day." The point: focus on the word: וַיַּבְדֵּל from the root "lahavdil" to divide, or to distinguish. What? Day and Night; Light and Darkness; Heaven and Earth; land and water. This is how the human builds a picture of our "niche" our environment in which we live and from which we extract energy for our survival. The most profound capability for the human is to "see"; and to see, we need two elements: sunlight and shadow. If you shine sunlight on an object, flood it with light, you will see nothing but sunlight. When you wish to look at an object you need to establish "edges" or boundaries where the volume of the object ends and the space beyond wherein the object exists, begins. This edge is called shadow. For in order to see an object we need both sunlight and shadow, to establish the boundary of this object under investigation. So Genesis 1 is not silly at all. It represents the essence of how our brain works: dividing up or distinguishing one thing from the next; what is nourishing from what is poisonous, what can be used to build a fire and what will not. One distinguishes day from night. Why? In the night we sleep in the coolness of darkness. In the day we notice that animals which we hunt, roam. We note where they roam. We gather our hunting party (say 4 people) and go out and hunt animals for a high protein diet which is essential for brain growth and maintenance. When you think about it, everything we say and do is "defined" by itself and an opposite: day/night; hot/cold, nourishing/poisonous. This is a simple and effective design for human life. It is not silly. It is brilliant and it it universal. So Genesis 1 contains a universal concept of distinguishing one thing from another in a "blur" of view. Our brain creates the capability for us to enrich our vision, to clarify our view, to build a picture rich with information for our survival. So Genesis 1 is not silly. The entire Hebrew Bible is not silly. Yet it requires a lot of study and reflection to glean the richness of knowledge and wisdom contained therein. In fact, for any one person, a lifetime of study and reflection of the wealth of knowledge in the Hebrew Bible and its commentary in the Talmud is not enough. Generation after generation of study and research is necessary to "mine" the wealth of wisdom in the Hebrew Bible and its Talmudic commentary. There is nothing silly about this. Perhaps you are thinking to say that a literal interpretation is not sufficient to receive the full value of the text. In this you are correct. But nothing is "silly". Let us not summarily dismiss a magnificent jewel of human intellect with a single pejorative word. This is not only careless but also exhibits prejudice on your part. Let us just say that to understand the "ancient" texts of humans found thousands of years ago from all over the world requires many years of study, reflection and discussion in order to get to the core of the valuable message contained in these historic texts. Let us not disrespect our ancestors. They did have an important perspective on discovering the secrets of human life in its environment and how to build a human culture from unlocking the secrets of the organic world. The science and technology of today is built on the precursors of human learning in ancient times. And the more we study "ancient history" with our modern tools of carbon dating and laser viewing, the more we realize that our ancestors spoke of valuable relations between our world and our survival in this world. Let us rejoice in the miracle of the human brain for it creates all of our reality as we know it and will know it in times to come.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

Dude, chill…. No need to get offended.

[@I_have_solved_AGI]

Elaborate useless theory. We are all agents of general impact optimization....any kind of impact we are able to do with our inputs n outputs. He believes rule automatically results in the impact maximizing behavior.

[@LakeWebb]

💝❤️‍🔥💫🪄🤯 SPECTACULEARITY!