HOW TO EXPOSE VLOG IN REAL SITUATIONS (Part 1)

[@raffal1989]

Hi Jose, your digression at 13:28 is so real. So many people don't understand that there is no right or wrong in taking pictures, this is a creative process where the goal is to express a certain vision that Photographer or Videographer has. Everyone has to start somehow, and I myself for a long time was aiming for the "correct" look, but when I finally realized that the "correct" look is not what I like and began to develop my own taste, that is where the real fun started.

[@outbackatl]

Love the work! When you are getting the -1, 0 and +1 exposures on skin how are you determining that? Are you spot metering on the skin for those values? I am unclear on how you determine when the skin is under, correct or over exposed. With so many different skin tones do you expose them all to the same values? I did see where you used false color but the range of the skin is between 50-75 IRE. Is there a more accurate way to see the IRE value like on a waveform monitor? I would love to know on a 18% grey card what those values are on the waveform monitor. Thanks for your help...

[@inkusaido]

I believe the "underexposed" image is actually the best exposed image acording to Panasonic since the skin tones are close to what they call middle gray on vlog-l (that'd be 42 and your skintones were between 45 and 55). Maybe if you want to retain more info in the shadows you should softly light them

[@Engeyarrakazehbi3456]

Yes I agree, One light for this scene isnt enough. At least a Backlight and a practical to light up de hallway in the back.

[@MartinVanDerSande]

Thank you. Great work and explanations too. Best wishes, Marty

[@FKfilmphotography]

I'm tired of seeing tutorial videos and how to's by people who have no credible work or real life examples of high quality content. I'm very glad I found your channel, your work is inspirational. A couple of questions if you would be so kind: 1) When grading are you applying a Vlog to REC 709 lut first? 2) When shooting 10bit are using the 150 or 400mbs and the SD card your using for such high data rate? Many thanks for your time.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Thanks mate!! we appreciate it a lot!!! 1. We're grading from the scratch or with our luts. 2. 150 mbs for now! :) You're welcome.

[@danielclee1]

​@Steven Caban Is that right. In p-p you adjust contrast, including gamma, then apply the LUT?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Supermandan Indeed, as is clearly shown in the tutorial, with the curve before the LUT.

[@danielclee1]

@@JoseReneVisuals Ok, but because the original image is a flat grey you're then relying on the scopes, etc., to aid you in the contrast-pull. Unless, of course, there is a skill to looking at the flat-grey image? Also, apart from contrast, what if you want/need to colour correct? Is the workflow: i) contrast-pull, ii) add LUT, iii) go back into cc mode and adjust the RGB?

[@flannelhousemedia8741]

@@danielclee1 Great Question! I was wondering the same thing

[@RockWILK]

I completely agree with you. On my Panasonic s5, I shoot in log, but I always expose properly, because I find when I expose to the right, skin tones look terrible to me. I feel like Vlog does not expose like s-log, where I always exposed to the right. And so, yes, you have to figure out what looks good to you before you start shooting, and then just stay consistent. Great video, thanks so much for sharing.

[@KarimJovian]

Happy I found this channel. Thank you. I subscribed

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Karim Jovian thank you very much!

[@furkonige]

great, I will use VLOG with my GH6 arter watching your tutorial, thank you, I am here 6 year later but it works.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

@@furkonige You will see the difference!

[@KarimJovian]

What lens are you using in the beginning is that also the GH5? Your intro 0:30 where you are talking. Looks very nice too

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Karim Jovian hey, yes it’s GH5 with Sigma 18-35mm with Aputure DEC LensRegain adapter. Thanks👊🏻

[@beatrizc1722]

Muy didáctico y bien explicado el proceso creativo José, te he descubierto por primera vez , mis felicitaciones, saludos desde España.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Muchas gracias, Beatriz! Me alegro de que te resultara útil. Saludos desde España también jejej

[@jayclips7985]

Did you ever come out with part 2 of this video

[@orion-viikhmernight2748]

Thanks 🙏 for this tip I just bought the S5. He’ll I’m new subscriber.

[@JCSvideography]

The colour in your example shots are beautiful!

[@HazeAnatomy]

Awesome Channel.. I subbed. Whats your suggestion on Sharpness & Noise reduction settings when using V-Log L? I have found very little information online on this topic. Thanks.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Dame Lee Hi Dame, we set noise reduction off and don't add digital sharpness.

[@HazeAnatomy]

Jose & Rene Visuals by "off" and "Don't add" do you mean you set them both to 0 or -5???

[@HazeAnatomy]

@@JoseReneVisuals What Values do you set them at? 0? -5? On and off really doesn't give me a clear answer being that the Settings are in Numerical values and not "On" and "off" values.. thanks

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Dame Lee noise 0 and sharpness 0 but sometimes depends on the lens and aperture if you’re wide open you’ll lose some sharpness anyways . 👊🏻

[@NicoManansala]

like and follow...how many stops of ND filter most of time you suggest when shooting daylight outdoor using underexposing technique?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Nico Manansala Hi Nico? It depends on the amount of light of the moment. It's not the same daylight outdoor in October or June, 5pm or 1pm, and it's not the same daylight in the south of Spain than in Norway. You have to measure that by a lightmeter, false color, etc, and then set your ND till you get your desired exposure.

[@NicoManansala]

@@JoseReneVisuals thanks

[@ChessBoxin]

As someone new to V-LOG, should I be adjusting any of the profile settings for VLOG in camera? Which is I believe only Noise redcution and Saturation. Thanks for the video.

[@gellert.ficzere]

In the official Vlog-L document I have found they state that middle gray is at 42 IRE while skintones are best between 42-55 IRE (dark to light skintone) and the optimal highest value should be at max 75 IRE because color channels can clip under 80 IRE.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Gellért Ficzere Thanks for your comment Gellért! Yes, That's what we find in real situations, that overexposing (even when not clipping) results in a loss of color and texture.

[@gellert.ficzere]

Exactly. I'm new to this Vlog-L and I found that it is very hard to expose correctly only using the GH5s screen and the monitoring functions built in camera. On the GH5s you can set Zebra1 to 55 and Zebra2 to 75 so you can expose to skintones more easily in camera.

[@jd5787]

Hi guys, was there a post 2 to this video? It doesnt show in the feed. Thank you!

[@Q2Japan]

Super insightful :D Thank you for your hard work!

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Q2 Japan Thanks for watching!!!

[@davidp158]

Thanks for this video. Your results speak for themselves; great contrast and detail, and a very "filmic" look. I look forward to your future videos.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Dave Patterson Thanks so much Dave, really appreciate your comment. Working on the next ones already!

[@coreyrobn]

Amazing video! Thanks for the high-quality content. It really shows in your work!

[@proteus1]

I have the S1, But have no idea how to shoot in s-log or how to grade. Do you have tutorials on how to do this?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

David Patheyjohns yes, check our channel out you’ll find plenty of tutorials about grading and how to grade log footage... 👊🏻

[@poppingZiben]

where is the second part? :)

[@SlickMillionOfficiel]

Great Video ! Great work. I see your luts on website, your luts are ready to use specific for Vlog gh5 sequence for premiere pro ? Thanks

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Tom Mcguiness Thanks Tom! Yeah, they are meant to be used directly over Vlog footage (with whatever editing suit or plugin where you can apply luts)

[@MaxLeithner]

Thank you for this amazing video. I am so glad I found your channel. You are providing high quality images, super useful advices and inspiring art. Thank you :D

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Max Leithner Thanks a lot Max!!

[@Shanefaye]

Awesome video! Your colors on those intro shots looked great! The more I shoot VLOG with the GH5, the more I've seen that there's less definition in the upper highlights as well.

[@roehaus1]

Great video... but why ISO800? I thought ISO400 was native for the GH5.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Both ISOs are acceptable and the noise is pretty similar. Anyway, this is just an example for this tutorial.

[@ProSpeedflying]

Great video! Love your exposure style. Can you please give me an advice how to exposure on the snow in the mountains during sunny day? Maybe zebra % no clipping...

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Thanks! Check your histogram, RGB and Zebras. You should use a ND filter as well.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

What’s your favourite tool to check the exposure? Let us know if you have any questions! Thanks for all the support!

[@kenny1463]

Jose Rene Visuals Waveform and zebras. Just bought a grey card. Will have to learn to use it:D

[@danialdaoud]

Interesting... Did you use some sort of noise reduction on this video? I don't know how you can get that noise free image from GH5 at ISO 800

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Danial Daoud hi, we never used noise reduction on our footage. Cheers!

[@desotaku5202]

The youtube compression is what reduces the noise. I can bet from my own testing that even 400 iso vlog l footage has more noise than what can be seen here. That's why, if you want to upload to youtube, test an unlisted video first, before applying noise reduction.

[@MegaBenedik]

Thank you for this helpful tutorial. How do you set Contrast, Sharpness, Saturation, Noise Reduction on th camera? Do you leave it at 0?

[@sampierce1012]

Ive been really struggling with noise on my gh4 even in broad daylight all my settings are set to the proper settings how do you get such a clean image with this camera?

[@SteveT__001]

I found this because I have just ordered V Log from Panasonic, due to arrive tomorrow. Having looked at your channel you have some great content and a lot is what I am hoping to achieve with corporate video and I use the GH5, so for that I have subscribed, you have some great content I am going to enjoy viewing. Was there ever a part 2 to this by the way?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Steve Tucker no there so part 2 yet ;) Thanks for watching!

[@smallbrownfox594]

Interesting, thank you. Totally agree with your conclusions. Not tried the pearlescent filter yet, but will do so now 👍

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Nigel Kelly you’re welcome! 🙌🏻

[@TANZANIAFILMMAKINGTV]

This is the best tutorial never seen in KZbin thanks man

[@chrismcnish]

Dude! Your visuals are beautiful!

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Thanks so much!

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Thank you buddy!

[@ivan90988ify]

Thank you! You settings for Sharpness and NR for v-log -5 or 0?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Ivan Gribenyuk depends on the lens and F number which we’re using.

[@MyJeanf]

Very nice video footage . Beautiful

[@hstorey]

Excellent vid, great work guys, really enjoyed it. Looking forward to your future videos. 👍

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Hamish Storey thank you so much!🤙🏻

[@Gambitheart]

Hi i usually use gh5 in built rec709 lut to view on monitor and display and expose it normally using 70 percent zebra for skin tone highlight with lut applied on display just like any broadcasting cam. And have got proper results so far. Is this way of exposing correct or i must view log and expose using waveform or zebra at 50 Ire for skintone and 80 ire for clipping point on zebra when viewing log.

[@dgonset6508]

Well done. Very informative and calming. Great way to teach and to learn. Thank you.

[@fangshizhu9383]

Nice video! For the exposure IRE values reference for skin exposure between 5'57'' - 6'06'', are those numbers measured directly on the V-Log L flat footage or after the Red709 lut correction?

[@nils_ninja]

Hey also it is better vlog correctly to exposed or 1/3 - 1step overexposed?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Nils Ninja Check our video about exposing v-log!

[@roehaus1]

Excellent video! I shoot Vlog on a GH5 but I've been using ISO-400. I've been told that this is the native ISO that gives you the most dynamic range. Is there a reason that you have your camera set at 800 ISO in your tests?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Jerry Roe thanks, 400 is native iso yes, but you can go easily up to 800 or even more (if you’re not filming talents) if you need to.

[@kinobsession2917]

@@JoseReneVisuals I don't understand why are you using 800 ISO with ND filter, instead of 400 ISO without ND filter, sorry if I sound dumb

[@JoseReneVisuals]

@@kinobsession2917 so we could use it and show you an example.

[@tubekane]

Thank you for this wonderful tutorial, I learned a lot. One question; I see you film in 25 fps and 50 fps. Why do you select different frame rates ? Thank you in advance.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Dennis Kane Hi Dennis, thanks so much! Share if you have a chance, it means a lot for us! It depends, if we (or the client) wants slow motion we go for 50fps!

[@IstNurMeineMeinung]

@@JoseReneVisuals But different FPS have nothing to do with the exposure of V-Log. I was hoping for Varicam exposure on V-log, because the GH5 has a different color matrix.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

@@IstNurMeineMeinung Yeah, has nothing to do, except having to adjust your light level to the new frame rate (doubling it from 25 to 50, for example, if you stick to 180 degrees).

[@breze9745]

Incredible thanks. The lighting management is just perfect. I think I will spend lot of my time on your channel ;) !

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Breze you’re welcome! Thank you very much! Subscribe if u haven’t already😉 THANKS!

[@kwa42]

Thank you for the video!! Only one thing: I dont feel like its very useful to lift the blacks on a testing video/shots.. wouldnt you agree? That way it’s difficult to see how the black point behaves on the different exposures

[@natemclean5152]

What's your experience dealing with the terrible Magenta Macro-blocking with the GH5? I've done several tests with the color modes and even recording 10-bit with NinjaV. The only way I've avoided capturing Magenta Macro-Blocking in the shadows is NOT recording in 4k. Thoughts?

[@ruffdesignstudios1848]

Beautiful channel! Very helpful as a GH5 filmmaker.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Ruff Design Studios thank you so much!!

[@danielclee1]

I'm getting compression banding in my vlog image. Skies are blocky. Any ideas?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Supermandan Don't shoot skies! No, seriously, shoot in 10bit whenever you can and export with the best quality because youtube will compress again your footage.

[@danielclee1]

@@JoseReneVisuals why would I not shoot skies? If I can't shoot scenes that include skies then Vlog is a waste.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

The 'no,seriously' meant that it was a joke. Of course you can shoot skies.

[@danielclee1]

Thanks, but I still gotta problem. Even in the studio, the light bouncing off a white screen looked awful... in shades of blue ! Skin tones were exceptionally nice (to my eye) but overall the image is unworkable. What to do?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Supermandan Expose properly, shot in 10bit, grade carefully and try to nail and bake your shot on camera. If all that doesn't work and you don't like the result (although you shouldn't have those problems) maybe is time to change the camera. Sorry, it's all we can suggest without seeing the specific case...

[@kenny1463]

Real nice tutorial guys:) Keep it up. Never came across anyone using a Pearlescent. Usually it is the black promist 1/4. Learnt something. Like the rest of the guys who have commented, am looking forward to your future tutorials:)

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Kanan Iyer thanks mate! Thanks for the positive comment! 🙌🏻

[@Kandufilms]

Fantastic tutorial great job! learned a lot !

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Thanks a lot!!! Happy to hear this!

[@ventureexport5060]

So many quality youtube channels with such low views. Awesome work!

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Venture Export thanks! Feel free to share it🙌🏻👊🏻

[@Machina.M3dia]

One of the best GH5 videos I've seen so far, great work and thanks for the insights!

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Machina.Media thank you!!!👊🏻🙌🏻

[@AbGulten]

Nice video! I'd like to see how to correctly checking the exposure. So maybe a little bit of explanation of the tools? I'm using zebra's and histogram, but when do I know whats 1 stop underexposed or ETTR, and etc. ? Thanks!

[@georgioslachanas5379]

Ivan Jaros in vlog-l,42 ire is 18%grey and 61ire is white...I believe skin tones highlights should be max at 55 ire

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Hi Georgios! That's a pretty good starting point for exposing with false color. We try to measure before (lightmeter, etc) because every skin has a different luminosity and reflect light it in a different way. I've found that many descriptions assume that there are only caucasians on the planet!

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Hi! We are working on a video about this. We use lightmeter for controlled environments (not run and gun situations) but after a while you translate this info well to your false color. For example, using a grey card and a lightmeter will let you know which color on a false color monitor would be correct exposure, +1,-1...

[@abas1r]

Can you explain why you used the Nd filter with a 800 iso, why not 100 iso and no filter??

[@abas1r]

*please 🙏🏾

[@mrmillsartstudio]

Do you prefer to use the histogram in camera to get your exposure? I feel like the exposure meter just lies to me.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

MrMills yes, histogram is the best in camera tool! 👊🏻

[@alquisolafilms1431]

in vlog-L, iso should always be in 400 or 800 right?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Alquisola Films depends on the situation but we try to never go over 1000 while filming actors.

[@MaicolAngelo]

share the lut please??

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Maicol Angelo it’s from our golden package!! 👊🏻

[@41vids]

Question, I am using zebras and the waveform to help balance my exposure and that’s helping, but now once that’s done, my question is what do I prioritize to lighten my exposure - aperture, shutterspeed or iso? Like should I keep aperture at a minimum (2.8 on my lens) and then use shutter speed and/or iso to adjust the exposure? Which one should I keep low and which should I be adjusting to move the waveform ? I obviously want to stay away from noise as much as possible, Someone please help I am dying trying to figure this out and I can’t!!!!

[@raulbn946]

Check the Jeven Dovey video on exposure triangle

[@davidp158]

Thanks for taking time to produce this video. Exposure is something I often struggle with. Will you be doing additional videos regarding VLOG exposure?

[@KCMartin91737]

What diffusion filter where you using? I don't see it in the equipment list.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Keith Martin Hi Keith it is the Tiffen Pearlescent 1/2

[@KCMartin91737]

It seems to have a pretty nice "anti-digital" effect on skin. How do you like Pearlescent compared to other diffusion like Glimmer, Satin, Promist, etc.? Do you feel 1/2 is the best average strength for Pearlescent? I tend to start with 1/4 but would rather avoid buying several strengths if possible.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Hi Keith! Yeah, it's pretty nice for the antidigital war haha! We recommend going 1/4 for a subtle and nice effect, 1/2 maybe for fashion and more stylized projects! Promist is very subtle too with a slight color difference, it's a matter of taste in the end!

[@bobditty]

Wow your shots are simply a work of art! #goals

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Bob Ditty Thanks a lot mate!!

[@antjarvis]

What editing system are you using?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Anthony Jarvis FCPX and Davinci resolve.

[@antjarvis]

Jose & Rene Visuals Thanks! Really like your video and completely agreed about the quality of the images.

[@ethanclarkfilm]

Does part 2 exist yet?!!! Getting really noisy images out of my gh5s!

[@JoseReneVisuals]

EWCvisuals hey there, not yet! But we’re working on it👊🏻

[@ethanclarkfilm]

Jose & Rene Visuals can't wait to watch this when I get home! Do you talk about noise issues etc? I am really struggling with extreme noise in lower Isos on my gh5s

[@JoseReneVisuals]

EWCvisuals hi mate! Check it out. We don’t have any problems with the noise.

[@ethanclarkfilm]

Jose & Rene Visuals cheers! Have just watched- you are incredible! Love what you are doing. Still struggling with how to expose in night scenes and streetlighting etc? Should I be exposing at 0 or below?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

EWCvisuals what do you mean exactly by 0?

[@UrgeidoitNet]

great job!

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Urge Thanks mate!

[@lorenzoomero]

Great video! Thanks :)

[@andressaez2]

Para cuando algún tutorial en español!! Gracias!!

[@chrismorenomccarthy8487]

What luts did you use?

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Christian Moreno Our own luts Christian, from the fashion pack

[@VistarCreative]

New sub and I plan to binge watch your channel now.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

VistarCreative thank you!!! 🙌🏻

[@eastbayhawk]

amazing video

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Wes s Thanks!!

[@colinire15]

Needed this guide but not the very distracting background music. Why do you think you need this? Maybe you've just got noisy neighbours.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Yeah, they were drilling outside 👊🏻

[@josemanuelaunoncarrasco7436]

Podrías añadir subtitulos en español, los videos son geniales y para los que somos un poco torpes con el inglés nos vendría genial, muchísimas gracias!!!

[@baorichard4345]

THE Moment i saw your color grading, i clicked sub!

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Bao Richard thank you!🙌🏻

[@tylou4479]

This is great! Thank you

[@JoseReneVisuals]

you're welcome!

[@UDOK_GRAPHY]

great video thx

[@JoseReneVisuals]

유독 스튜디오 UDOK CREATE you’re welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@Stargaze79]

Excellent content! Subscribed. I definitely like the organic look of the underexposed image better. I'm going to get v-log for my GH5 soon and do some tests of my own.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Stargaze79 thanks for your feedback 🙌🏻

[@NirmitGire]

17:01 Stole my heart.

[@mikedoundoulakis850]

I believe that you expose for skin tones too high because the vectorscope for v-log its different. Vlog L starts from 7 and goes to 80 and your false color starts from 0 and goes to 100. So as i can see.. your "-1 underexpose" its actually 0 in reality and your "+1 overexpose" is actually +2. The limits for V-Log L are around +1.5 stop for great results (for most situations) thats why it broke a little the skin (as result the texture) at ''+2''. So my question is.. ''At your -1 did you remember yourself to raise up your total expose by 1 stop in post?" i believe no :D because no Noise to prove that.. But also "Did you try to raise down your 0 by 1 stop to recover some texture?" In conclusion your false color gives you false representation :D

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Mike Doundoulakis Hi Mike, we know the vectorscope for v-log it's different. All the tests and results here are based on that assumption, 80 as the limit, so we're still right on those numbers. Thanks for your comment!

[@sutv6754]

Not to sound like a hater but I wanted so bad to watch this video but the music was to loud, to busy and to distracting. So distracting. I tried to over come it but in the end could not. Why oh why do you feel the need to submerge you excellent video with such distracting music and sound effects. Just saying.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

Matter of taste, I guess

[@sutv6754]

@@JoseReneVisuals Ok. But perhaps you should rethink it or better yet have a listen and try to step outside of it. Anyhow. Thank You. Good luck

[@JoseReneVisuals]

@@sutv6754 Thanks! Rethinking is always good!

[@elephantgrass631]

Get rid of the music.

[@JoseReneVisuals]

In the world.

[@elephantgrass631]

@@JoseReneVisuals No just your video. It's a great video with great tips, but the music takes away from it. Not every minute of every tutorial needs music beneath it.

[@gcprost]

This is useless. Why didn't you let us see the waveforms? Why didn't you also shoot a grey card?

[@gopolarisstudio]

Awesome video! Music's too loud.