Josh Barnett on submitting Dean Lister, why catch wrestlers are so sensitive & early UFC days

[@BTeamJiuJitsu]

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[@chefNasty00]

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[@Jacob-d8d]

that was over a week ago lmao

[@repsguy9156]

This is potentially the second best episode you guys have done to date. Great work- deserves a silver medal 🥈

[@ThomasLeo]

Def in the top 5 episodes of all time so far.

[@craigjones8662]

Special thanks to our sound engineer Marlee Matlin

[@nickahrens5869]

Bwahahahaha

[@Jonbombs]

Gordon seems like a banter vacuum brah

[@GrantREllis]

When you have 300 episodes from now, people will miss these foundational episodes where you are figuring out the tech. The cast is worth listening to whether the mics work or not!

[@JebediahSpringfield]

You’re 1000% right dude. I’ve watched multiple podcasts from their births and issues are looked upon fondly which is interesting

[@FICTORIA]

Nah. Sucks

[@JebediahSpringfield]

@@FICTORIA sick bro!

[@MortarMaggot275]

Josh Barnett is the fucking man. He's a staple of MMA and Grappling and was somehow a top HW for about twenty years. People sleep on him because his peak was before the modern casual, but that motherfucker is a monster.

[@Ohc111]

Love guys like Josh Barnett still making bjj guys aware of the catch wrestling lineage

[@Ohc111]

Also props Craig stickin to the Aussie roots rockin the TN’s

[@graciederangementsyndrome3669]

Sounds like CACC guys really are sensitive and egotistical maniacs

[@donovanb9020]

I'll never get over just how articulate Barnett is lol.

[@B1bLioPhil3]

Still haven't figured out the audio, I see.

[@mrawesome333]

they're athletes not sound engineers

[@ronronnie7175]

@@mrawesome333doesnt give em a free pass

[@marconopolo5723]

Ah goddamn it. I thought they would have for this one. Couldn't finish the first episode because of it.

[@davidoconnor1773]

I feel like they are not using the audio from the mics, and its just the audio from the cameras. Its insane!

[@BTeamJiuJitsu]

On the road challenges, they’ve been corrected and expect 2nd best audio on pods to come!

[@freddiethompson7753]

I love it how you're holding mics only to use the camera audio. It's on brand.

[@jeremiahtalley1936]

Good choice of guests. Barnett appeals to mma fans grappling fans. Just is a legend of grappling.

[@theemperorcharlemagne]

I love both BJJ and Catch Wrestling, but these guys have a point. No-gi grappling has absorbed so much Catch Wrestling. The no gi game is a hybrid of BJJ and CaCC.

[@typfeufer]

How do u call it catch wrestling if everyone just pulls guard

[@theemperorcharlemagne]

@@typfeufer if you go back to BJJ pre 1980, you’ll find that it has limited submissions including no leg locks. Also it was all done in the gi. Meanwhile, a Karl Gotch student named Satoru Sayama created a version of Catch Wrestling without pins for his Shooto system. This is the original “no gi grappling” and is where most of the modern leg lock game comes from, amongst other submissions. Over the many years you also had more and more wrestling being incorporated into no-gi grappling.

[@fernandoortolani9709]

​@theemperorcharlemagne leg locks were taught - pre 1980 - Jiu Jitsu in Brazil. Later it wouldn't be allowed in competition but leg locks have always been taught in Brazil.

[@theemperorcharlemagne]

@@fernandoortolani9709 some were taught in Brazil by guys with Catch backgrounds or by guys with styles that derive from Catch such as Luta Livre or Sambo. It is largely recognized that most leg locks come from Japan, post the commencement of MMA. You can find a number of sources on that including John Danaher’s interview on the JRE. Erik Paulson is another great resource on the subject. The Japanese leglock game comes from Catch Wrestling. Luta Livre is Brazilian Catch Wrestling. Sambo is Catch Wrestling plus Judo and they credit their leglock game to Catch as Catch Can.

[@fernandoortolani9709]

@@theemperorcharlemagne leg locks were always taught at the Gracie Academy in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - way way way before 1980

[@streamofmemes4606]

these mics are incredible

[@ghagzor]

Yes incredibly bad.

[@earldalton259]

This is awesome guys love the podcast format of high level grapplers and fighters truthfully talking about things that matter to the people training wanting to be them! Good shit!

[@uke_mike]

When I saw the title,it was the fastest I've ever subbed. Love this shit man!

[@qstar710]

Whoever put the time stamps in the description is a hero

[@mario-mp2vf]

One of my favorite grapplers… and Craig is their too… Thank you for the content, keep it going y’all.

[@Kirbylover489]

Barnett is such a cool dude man

[@van_seeking_adventure8770]

Craig: Today we have Josh Barnett with us…. Josh: I’m glad you asked…(proceeds to say all the words).

[@jacob-ec3mz]

BEST PODCAST EVER

[@alfiesolomon3531]

" if i had a 15 yo daughter showing me a picture of John Danaher and telling me she wants to move to Texas to train with this man, i'm going to have a serious conversation with her"....i laughed so hard at this. That being said Elena Crevar is a murderer on the mats.

[@midnightpiledriver]

The audio brings a certain level of charm to the podcast

[@Aaron-bd9sj]

I love Josh. Fantastic guest

[@raymondayala5355]

I remember buying Josh’s DVDs punishing rides and attacking the guard. Made me give up the guard and just smash with knee on belly. KOB of life!! 😂

[@omegadeepblue1407]

NEON BELLY!

[@harmonicproportions6588]

Knee on Soul

[@frankhassle9366]

Knee on Twig & Berries

[@kallepikku4991]

1:00:00 This is known as "Brazilian war cry". Basically, as a Brazilian competitor is losing, his whole squad suddenly starts yelling, crying and b*tching; threatening the organizers to never show up to their competitions again. Most competition organizers don't give a f*ck, but some of the poorly ran organizations give in to the b*tching pressure, and reverse their decisions. It's quite sad to be honest. Grown men acting like little girls over a hurt ego.

[@kuan7039]

Josh was very gentlemanly about this situation and incredibly gracious.

[@universaljiujitsu6816]

Come on drink with Josh.Awesome podcast thanks, sounds is good with headphones, no complaints

[@MrBosseidon]

That John Danaher voice clip at the beginning lmao

[@kallepikku4991]

1:08:40 I remember this whole shoe debacle. Hahaha. It was funny AF. First everyone in bjj calling him basically a moron for wearing shoes against Dean, and then same guys going full 180 degree after the match, and calling him practically a cheater. Hahaha. LoL. So which one is it?

[@A19csd]

Great episode. Flew by while I cleaned the house. I find myself laughing more at this type of “fucking around” humor than I do actual comedians.

[@JustinBorel]

b level audio....wouldn't have it any other way from the b team. you guys are second to none

[@greenbandanamusic]

Great conversation! 2nd episode was a challenge because in 1st one we got Uncle Chael but still loved it! Keep em coming!

[@sauerkraut8821]

The Baby Faced Assassin!!!!!! Legend! Respect.

[@kenkaz7128]

Liked the vid already yet to watch it..... Josh is always a great watch.

[@bk341]

I must say, and perhaps there is a reason for this, but Josh seems to come off much more polite and well spoken in this interview. In some of the interviews I have watched with him in the past, he seems to ramble on or interject randomly. Not sure if there was a specific reason for that, but props to Josh for being self aware and changing that around in this interview. Great to watch and a great guy all around.

[@ivanlee2666]

My favorite pod currently.

[@youngmaestro4153]

Josh is one of the sharpest, most well rounded to ever compete in mma!

[@dylangardner5255]

Craig, tell us about Travis Stevens

[@mistaschaub3280]

This is the second best episode yet guys. In all seriousness I think Craig and the other guy do a great job, I think you should get Volk on next 👍🏼

[@Kinosis79]

2:00:23 He's right. Besides, the price is nothing as we get a chance to learn from all of the best guys in the world. There has never been a time like this before.

[@michaelotherwise9656]

Ran into Josh two days ago. Great guy

[@markdavis8430]

Seriously love this podcast ✌️

[@adamabbas1487]

What's more annoying than the sound is people complaining about the sound.

[@JackSudduth]

Great episode

[@PhilosophyofArtandScience]

what Josh Barnett says about not selecting the strengths of your opponent as a grounds of the fight is exactly what made GSP such a great fighter. great minds think alike. GSP was constantly switching between I will kick you in the face and I will double leg you and later I will threaten you with submissions.

[@BJJTK]

Do you guys have like a boom mic sitting in the middle of the room and you're accidently using that instead of the handheld ones?

[@thejordanflynn]

Pretty sure they messed up the handheld so reverted back to using the shitty in camera mic.

[@jonathandebruyn6781]

Gordon on this podcast would be legendary. I'm all for squashing the beef, but keeping the rivalry.

[@TC-bv4on]

It would be like a between the two ferns episode

[@genises200]

This is the golden age episodes. This will be those episodes you'll see people rewatch for nostalgia

[@SHERMA.]

31:27 "everyone likes to gamble, some guys bet online and some guys send unsolicited d pics" unrivalled sense of humour as usual Craig

[@rangdog01]

Awesome to see JB on your podcast, Craig. Absolute legend of martial arts and you asked really great questions that gave way to some awesome stories that even Joe Rogan didn't get out of the mad lad. Also I am from Bundy so was good to hear the lad give us some props for making shit rum. If you drink bundy rum and don't get in a fight, you're a f#cking coward.

[@rangdog01]

Also great to hear him talk about aussie MMA and people like Elvis who I trained under when I lived in Concord and is a great man.

[@ardnfast]

Loving this content 👏💪👌 Craig can you please elaborate on what it was like to roll with Chael and now with Josh? 🙏

[@SantinoCataldo]

The second Best B-team podcast is back!

[@blessingsandmotivation5498]

Josh a class act

[@ronronnie7175]

this one was great

[@VictorParlati]

Right from the opening seconds when Dean Lister pulled guard it was over for him. Sakuraba snd Barnett have proven time and again that if you pull guard against a very good catch wrestler you’re going to lose. There’s a reason why all wrestling styles always seek to get a top dominant position… Because it’s superior to ANY bottom position.

[@GolightlyR3]

Good stuff!

[@yew2oob954]

This happened with the predecessor to Catch Wrestling which came from India...people forget unless it's "branded."

[@taylore75]

Craig I'm proud of you for upgrading from the hand held microphones 😂. All jokes aside I love your content and I'll definitely support the podcast. Keep it going.

[@taylore75]

But for real bro. Get a better setup.

[@benphilo4672]

CACC, sensitivity training

[@gmacintosh]

They got that BTeam audio guy too.

[@tatecomedy]

Around 24:00 Josh talks how in early days people were trading techniques and Pat Miletich learned crucifix from catch wrestling guys. It's super cool, because Pat temporarily unretired himself and fought Mike Jackson recently, he utilised crucifix for a big part of the fight

[@MJAnimA]

Hope the mic issues are fixed for the third episode. Waiting until fix happens. Need more Craig in my life.

[@ludmilasit6025]

Can you please make your podcast recordings at a higher volume?

[@propositionjohnston]

I love 80’s $15 RadioShack microphones. Super phat!

[@Shintaylor450]

The microphone sounds like it’s coming from the camera not the mics.

[@alfiesolomon3531]

Are you guys planning to do an interview with Kit Dale? that would be hilarious

[@MicksMasterMike]

Oh man Josh was great in Stranger Things really good seeing fighters find a career outside of sports.

[@user-md2fm7ik2z]

What you talking about little boy

[@lchristianrojas3713]

Great content.

[@thelifeofpieman]

When are you switching on the microphones?

[@ghagzor]

Let's goooo. I don't even train bjj yet but im here for this lol

[@moomoomiltank]

Well the audio improved, can’t wait till shots of Simone helps them with their asmr edition of the el segundp podcast

[@nikhayes3396]

catch wrestler Barnett is the King

[@ChevtCxde]

Why do you guys have mics? Lol. Audio is coming from the $200 Amazon camcorder.

[@ColtYohn]

Very enjoyable

[@jonathonperez3352]

Will this podcast be on Spotify?

[@BTeamJiuJitsu]

Yes! Spotify, Apple, and all other podcast platforms! Download and enjoy

[@jonathonperez3352]

@@BTeamJiuJitsu alrighty just gave it a watch on KZbin I'll make sure to give it a listen on Spotify tomorrow during work you'll stay killing it...

[@wk9195]

craig is doing so much for the game he will honestly be well appreciated as time goes by

[@SashaLenskyj]

Tns still looking fresh

[@Victor-ci9py]

What are the mics for, better sound quality?

[@drummerdayle6537]

Josh is a very interesting guy to listen to. I'd love to learn from him and also shoot the shut

[@jakesloan7598]

Jesus Christ the mics are just fucking props at this point

[@groundkarate]

무슨소리인진 모르겠지만 일단 듣겠습니다

[@Breakmarkie]

Annyounghasayo 🇬🇧🤝🇰🇷🤙

[@bestkoreanjesus]

I feel you. Australian english is hard to understand.

[@ThomasLeo]

Would love to see a submission-grappling promotion were points are for take-downs / escapes only. Basically point system designed to encourage stand-up battles. Either stand-up dominance or submissions to win.

[@erdngtn9942]

Wtf is interesting in two guys pushing each other around? I wanna see tech to submission. Glad we are still in majority

[@juliusjohnson4829]

Lol a Brazilian black belt told me that shit don't use kesa or kata gatami b/c I can take your back. I then proceeded to crush all of his student with it. It's a viable position and I use it to demoralize my opponent.

[@kallepikku4991]

I crush black belts with it who tell me not to use it. Coz those are the ones who understand it the least.

[@user-md2fm7ik2z]

Same. I slaughter bjj guys including purple and brown with it. I’ve been doing judo 2 years and bjj 3 months. I’ve never had my back taken from kesa or even close. If I start to feel my opponent escape that direction (has happened only twice) I’ll just switch to regular side control or north south. I usually finish when I get kesa, it’s actually so easy for me that I now often let them escape just to keep the roll going. It’s funny to see/feel the body language as opponents go from “heh what is this noob doing” and attempting escapes to “shit what do I do” and resort to survival trying not to get armlocked Cannot understand why bjj guys don’t use it more

[@Name-ql7jf]

Craig lookin more and more like the crack is taking hold

[@NeoValeTudo]

Bruh 1 hour 45 into the podcast things FINALLY get interesting and Josh is talking about the origin of sport jui jitsu and how catch wrestling gave martial artists from all background a chance to show off their own specialized skill and it gets interrupted 5 minutes in to talk about War Bringer Whiskey cmon man

[@TheEnderBand]

They need to supplement that chair's sagging frame with a couple of hardback books- Renato Laranja Show style

[@djel67]

Josh nailing why EBI rules suck

[@markpatterson766]

Andre Galvao also dominated Xande Ribeiro with the double under back control.

[@peekaboojujitsoo525]

Get Neil Melanson on here.

[@ssyankee121]

Does downloading the episode help out the channel

[@BTeamJiuJitsu]

Yup. Support and download so we can give you more podcasts!

[@ssyankee121]

@@BTeamJiuJitsu alright I’ll be downloading then

[@alexkpai]

why are you doing podcasts over speakerphone lol the collar mics you use in the intro would work 100000x better

[@francotumolo]

GOAT of media JIUJITSU

[@jakjnk1]

Mic check ✅✅✅

[@HectorCamacho67]

Need to fix the audio on these podcasts boys sound quality it poor

[@mattmax8599]

Love this. Please have Gordon on! Then have Lex.

[@bobanmilisavljevic7857]

"I'll call Gabby" @1:35:07 💪🥳

[@vwgolf1991]

At this point, jiu-jitsu is just a two phase loop with a fairly open competitive ruleset on one side and whatever techniques help to win in that ruleset on the other. It's open source, so there's no gatekeeping, no official or definitive list of techniques. It's just a bunch of ideas and two (not counting advantages) ways to win a competitive match. I don't know why (some) catch guys, judo guys, maybe some wrestlers (although they're a lot more open minded and usually get it) get so bent out of shape when someone calls a double leg, a neck crank or a hip toss "jiu-jitsu". Almost any grappling technique can be jiu-jitsu, bcs it's the concept and if it's legal and useful under the ruleset, not the technique or it's origins, that matters.

[@Human-ll5yv]

Please have Josh on often!!! Love it 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@juanpablorivadeneirajijon3024]

you need to improve the audio

[@johnconor5485]

content is gold but you guys really need to step up your audio game

[@MalikButler]

Can you PLEASE pay a damn producer to correct the audio? I get the excuse of "we're traveling so the setups are less than ideal" but many of your friends (Lex included) travel with setups that sound 10x better.

[@ardnfast]

41:40 "...let's make it accurate...Craig is losing..." 😅