Josh Pate On James Franklin Losing Big Games (Late Kick Cut)

[@JoshPateCFB]

Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel & LIKE the video! - JP

[@ruckus1713]

Think the fact that he has only made PSU the favorite in 1 of 20 games against top 10 opponents makes their fans' point perfectly

[@brentski76]

My thought exactly!!

[@cameronbrennemanoutdoors]

Coming from a Michigan fan yup, take away these allegations and psu has beaten Michigan in recruiting the last 2-3 classes and yet Michigan is levels ahead of michigan

[@johnhaversack1634]

But he can recruit..lol.

[@nicolep7241]

During the summer Josh interviewed Franklin. Josh referred to Penn State as a second-tier team in the Big 10 program. Franklin disagreed. Franklin is a combined 4-16 against Ohio State and Michigan. Nuff said.

[@cameronbrennemanoutdoors]

And 3 of those 4 wins came against Michigan when they were second tier, and the one win wasn’t because Franklin, it’s cause his players blocked that fg without it osu wins and Franklin was fired after the 2021 season

[@r.s.w.k4569]

Betting line argument doesnt make no sense. It's his JOB to get those odds in his favor by recruiting better, hiring better coaches, and winning a big game. He has the same resources as OSU and Michigan.

[@mousedream1550]

James Franklin reminds me of Mark Richt. A coach good enough to win majority of the games, but not good enough to win the big games when it counts. Georgia had success with a replacement and Penn State can as well. Franklin has reached his ceiling.

[@NateBee]

Coaches need to stop going for 2 in the first half. Oregon does it too much too.

[@MrJara1018]

2 points is more than 1 point . 1 failed attempt and 1 successful attempt is the same as 2 successful extra point kicks . And 2 successful 2pts is 4 points that’s way better than 2.

[@lordlightskin-]

@@MrJara1018yeah okay try that style in the championship week and or playoffs shit ain’t gon work out too well I promise you that much

[@markmajkowski9545]

USC v CO/WA - go for 2 - PSU v MI; 1

[@joelp5093]

It's all because of "analytics", which I am beginning to really question

[@malikprince3305]

He’s part of the reason they are not favored in those games. I’m not about to use the betting lines as a way to judge Franklin. He has many of the same resources that Ohio St and Michigan have.

[@corybrockman1865]

He has less resources than both those teams.

[@malikprince3305]

@@corybrockman1865 if that’s true, why was Joe Paterno able to compete with and many times beat those teams?

[@glancyoutdoors1881]

Penn st hasn’t competed with the big dogs in 30 years. Their facilities are far behind the big teams like Ohio st Alabama Georgia etc. and their NIL programs are way behind. They will never compete if the administration doesn’t step up

[@TheXman19]

I've said this a million times to anyone who will listen. Penn State is at it's best with a dual threat quarterback. Drew Allar is good He's just not the right fit for Penn State and their scheme as well as their culture. He's a spread finesse passer with a gritty style team. The last two Big ten championships came from Tres McSorley, Daryll Clark, and Michael Robinson

[@ToomersCorner]

Penn st don’t need a dual threat QB. He has beat good teams.

[@xNotRealx]

Ik I’m late to this but drew has ball security a lot of young kids don’t have that we have to trust him to continue building

[@BB13131313]

Franklin has had success as a head coach, but his in-game managing is pretty questionable.. chasing points and going for 2 twice was just the latest of his head scratching decisions..

[@dragonsurge1]

How are the point spreads determined? Why isn’t Penn State the favorite in these big games?

[@EkL149]

James Franklin, lifetime contract at Penn State. Make it happen, he's the gift that keeps on giving the whole year around.

[@joelp5093]

Sandy Barbour's retirement gift to PSU

[@johnhaversack1634]

to opponents...

[@EkL149]

He is an excellent recruiter and an average coach. I guess that equals out to an overall "good" coach by College Football standards.

[@mousedream1550]

Dude is basically Mark Richt.

[@Mr.Wonderful731]

Great recruiter mid coach.

[@matthewgrande4038]

you were supporting this guy less than a month ago

[@guygonzalez7039]

How the hell are you gonna make the playoffs when you are 1-12 against top 5 teams!! What the hell do you need to see, Franklin isn't moving the program forward!! Its too big for him!! More years of same excuses, etc!! Its awful!!

[@yslcologneconnoisseur7473]

If my favorite team couldn’t force the opposition to throw the ball in the second half, I would want the coach gone‼️😂😂

[@Redneckthinker]

James Franklin is leading the team to 11 win seasons. That is pretty freaking good and I root for Penn State.

[@tsully4368]

So, you're satisfied with 3rd place. Got it.

[@byronwright7753]

He can’t win big games. That’s not getting respect!

[@joelp5093]

If he wasn't getting paid like a coach who should be competing for a National Championship every season, I'd be more ok with it. He's hit his ceiling and he has eight more seasons on his contract. It's not going to get better.

[@xNotRealx]

@@tsully43683rd place is a lot better than MSU who just a few years ago competing for big ten championship fired their coach now are irrelevant we could be them

[@tsully4368]

@@xNotRealx - CJF making $8.5 mil per season and you're satisfied with 3rd place and another Bowl game loss 🤣

[@baileylester2929]

James Franklin to A&M?

[@Closed_Ai]

This guy is so dry and his outter refusal to criticize James Franklin in any way what so ever is comical

[@JustN0pe3]

3rd place in a 2 man race. It's impressive to be ranked in the top 10 yet lose to a top 10 team 98% of the time. Maybe if they weren't given the Norte Dame treatment every year and ranked way above their weight.

[@RoadTo19]

Wasn't it the D that couldn't stop M's running game. Seems like the change was needed on that side of the ball (I didn't watch the game).

[@ryansheard8092]

If you fire JF, The chances of hiring a coach that will make PSU elite are slim, very slim. The chance that you hire a coach that will make us worse are VERY likely. Period. It's not arguable. We don't have the program that UGA or A&M or Bama or Texas has, and we have limiting factors to being that. I'm as frustrated as any of our fans about that game, but anyone calling for JF to be fired is a fool (or a casual as JP would call you).

[@someguy6212]

Wow. I thought Penn St competed for championships. That used to be the standard.

[@corybrockman1865]

@@someguy6212 That was 30 years ago and we stopped investing in our program since then and fell behind. Also location makes it a lot harder for PSU to recruit.

[@someguy6212]

@@corybrockman1865 Most Universities now realize that football is the money making engine that drives everything else. Pennsylvania has strong high school football, as does Ohio. Pitt is a dumpster fire.

[@chipsaunders5109]

Man. I love the show, but josh is waaaay too kind to coaches. I don't want him to be killing every coach but c'mon. The team has played 5 ranked teams the past 2 years and is 1-4, and utahs qb blew his knee out in the one win. Plus josh picked him to win on Saturday, so clearly it wasn't impossible odds. Also, he goes to Penn st and Miami this off-season and now he can barely say a negative thing about either head coach....

[@blakeharrison3972]

James Franklin is a likable dude

[@joelp5093]

On camera.

[@ThailandXpress]

Small moves? Minor adjustments? You mean like the sixth OC in Franklin’s tenure? What about pointing to the common denominator?

[@bbqbros3648]

The dude is mediocre. He’s a Vandy coach.

[@CTback]

That's why Penn State hired him. Everybody knows Vanderbilt is just the enhancement talent in SEC football.

[@honestycheck3083]

James Franklin has serious anger issues. The death stare he gave David Jones postgame when asked to clarify his clumsy , ignorant 4th qtr 2PC was ridiculous. His narcissism is off the chain. Dudes been exposed.

[@yoc329]

i sensed that a while back when the reporter asked when he was gonna get allar to throw the ball vertically and instead of answering he started making fun of the question calling it stupid and then proceeds to lose because he can’t throw the ball vertically 😂

[@brucetucker4847]

@@yoc329 He didn't ask when he was going to get Allar to throw the ball vertically, he asked why he didn't just tell Allar to chuck the ball downfield regardless of whether the receiver was open or not, and it was a very stupid question.

[@georgiapeach3109]

Mark Richt 2.0

[@dangerousdylan6262]

Franklin is the BIG 10 version of Gus Malzahn... hes a good coach but hes not THE coach... if your ok with 8-4 seasons with a couple 9-3 seasons and a 10+ win season thrown in every 5 years or so but no National Championship Trophy then hes your man...

Most every fanbase except maybe OSU and a couple others have that eggzact scenario to look forward to every year now that it's pay for play for top players.

[@joesmith6972]

Being 3rd sounds great until you realize you only play 2 good teams a year.

[@LanceMan]

As long as the PSU fan base is happy with being third,maybe with new teams coming in, in the Big10 yearly, they are good. If they want to break into the top two, they need to make some hard decisions.

[@danielesh7809]

We aren't but the Athletic Department is. That's why are basketball program generally sucks. They make enough from the Big Ten tv deal and ticket sales that the extra they'd have to spend on making a true title contender doesn't make sense because there isn't that much extra money to be made doing it. They have ALWAYS cheaped out on coaches, facilities, recruiting, etc. JoePa was famously in the bottom half of the conference in salaray and our basketball coaches are usually at or near the bottom. Franklin they gave a big deal, but that was only cause there was the constant threat of him leaving. We only have Manny Diaz right now because Miami is still giving him $8 million a year.

[@corybrockman1865]

Michigan has had 3 good seasons. Penn State had been swapping places with them ever other year and Michigan isn't going to be as good next year. Trust majority of PSU fans are dumb and do want him gone. The intelligent ones understand that the program will be fine. It will likely always be behind OSU, but not Michigan.

[@LanceMan]

@@corybrockman1865 you are forgetting the new comers. That's fine as long as you are happy being second fiddle. Are you really happy with a yearly loss to OSU and 3-17 against top ten teams?

[@guygonzalez7039]

No body is better at losin games he is suppose to lose!! 2-19 against top 15 teams!! Head coach of Penn State!! Unreal!!

[@davebolaton7639]

Dead wrong. Franklin is mediocre. What would you say about a Texas coach that consistently is third in the Big 12? Or a Bama coach being the 3rd or 4th best in the SEC every year? PSU has a huge recruiting ground, great facilities, CASH, a great fanbase and an incredible defense. And what do we get for that? Nothing. All you need to know about Franklin is the year PSU won the Big Ten and beat OSU - OSU went to the playoffs - and Franklin meekly sat at the press conference and said blah blah blah. Saban would have torn the NCAA a new one. Smart would have had the entire state of Georgia ready to march to NCAA headquarters. Franklin? Blah blah blah. And that is what we have. Blah Blah Blah

[@Brick1978]

Franklin's explanation of the 2 point conversion attempts was absolutely ludicrous, he should be fired !

[@ericpollitt7910]

Josh I fundamentally disagree with your argument because the same logic of "he was only favord in 1 top 10 match up so what do you expect", can be the same argument for Jimbo, who is now gone. They are underachieving as a program. They are getting into Mac Brown at TX and Les Miles territory now.

[@vinnieheaters]

Les miles won a national championship

[@ericpollitt7910]

@@vinnieheaters Right. PSU should be in panic mode.

[@SilentAsian72]

I thought I recognized Yurcich's name as a Texas fan...not sure why one of Herman's coordinator's got such a good next job to be honest lol

[@BB13131313]

His last stop was Ohio State before he went to Penn State..

[@spiderwebmarketing2424]

Franklin. Is. INEVITABLE.

[@Jay_Cannon]

0:46 well they are a solid 3. I was sick of hearing all year “the 3 heavyweights in the Big 10.” There isn’t, there are 2 and and a wannabe. penn state is above the rest but is not in a class with the best.

[@usflsnumber1fan280]

Penn State fans are crazy for wanting to fire Franklin. Ohio State and especially Michigan are losing a ton of talent. Washington, USC, and Oregon will have to adjust to the superior depth of offensive and defensive lineman. They will not have to play Michigan and Ohio State every year and the playoff is expanding to 12 teams. 10-2 in the B1G will get you to the playoffs every year. Drew Aller is also a true sophomore and will PROBABLY be better next year. Fire Franklin now and Penn State will be the next Nebraska.

[@bbqbros3648]

Keep Franklin if you want what you’ve gotten all these years cause ain’t nothing changing for y’all with him

[@MrCtsSteve]

Interesting take and yea I can't believe how far Nebraska has fallen off . Wow

[@chrisbrooks6965]

Make the playoff just won’t win in the playoffs got it,……. Goal is to win it all why settle for just 10-2 yay we make a 12 team playoff

[@anthonytitone]

Agreed, they have no better options, who do they think is coming that’ll consistently beat OSU & Michigan, Harbaugh will b gone next year & they’ll fall off a bit anyways

[@dks23zak]

Either your 1st or your as good as last…. Every program should have goals to win the National Championship every year if not your a bottom feeder program

[@tarnuemassaquoi]

HE WAS OUT COACHED BY AN INEXPERIENCED COACH🤷🏾‍♂️

Franklin was outcoached by a replacement coach for a head coach on NCAA suspension last year. And the replacement didn't even allow his offense to throw a pass for almost the entire second half of the game. I doubt that stat will EVER be beaten.

[@claytondennis8034]

Franklin to Texas A&M. He IS a good coach. He HAS produced results with teams. Does he leave a lifetime job at Penn for a better program in the SEC? If I were him, I'd be making phone calls and packing bags.

[@BoschhammerActual]

Results? What fucking results?

[@sharky6128]

WELCOME TO NOTRE DAMES WORLD!!! WE ALSO NEED A GREAT OC!!! TOO BAD THE AD WOULD NOT HAVE PONNIED UP FOR THE UTAH OC. HARTMAN WAS UNDER UTILIZED AND THE PLAY CALLING WAS HORRIBLE. I KNOW PLAYERS HAVE TO SHOW UP TO PLAY THE GAMES BUT AT LEAST GIVE THEM A CHANCE !!! GO ND FINISH STRONG 🍀🍺

[@skipsterz]

I just find this excuse of Franklin’s favorability in those games to be ridiculous. The prediction models are based off his own team’s performances and stats. So, the only way to become the favorite in those matchups is to change those stat metrics for the algorithms. It’s like saying “Ehh, James Franklin lost because the stats from his own team vs the competition said he would.” It’s a lame excuse and reasoning. But this narrative has essentially been heavily propagated by the sports analysts since the lost to Ohio State this season, and unwitting fans are repeating this nonsense.

[@loganc7505]

He is what Marc Richt was at Georgia. they sit right there threatless to the leaders and better than then the rest is that good enough? Guessing it's getting old to be third place

[@Gloveberg1]

Very well put.

[@anotherheffis]

Four point spread is no insurmountable. Pretending like +4 means his hands were tied and he had zero shot is lazy. You derend him because he makes you think he is your friend. That's the long and short of it.

[@bradleyhorton4949]

We need a dual threat QB.

[@vsauce4678]

You need and offense your Iowa 2

[@joelp5093]

Like Pribula?

[@toddjohnson271]

He's not just blowing games he should win. They always have the defense but almost never have an offense to match UM and OSU.

[@MegaPaul1973]

What do you expect from an offense that has a first year starter at quarterback.

[@vinnieheaters]

Harbaugh is 5-13 against top 10 teams and 2-6 against top 5

[@daquandavis3841]

You have to sometimes beat the odd makers as a coach to remain. Even Jimbo did that.

[@NFace23]

Love JP but I just hate his take on James Franklin. The only two games any fan really cares about were utter embarrassments, and it falls on Franklin's shoulders.

[@samfaught6458]

Franklin's been through a lot of offensive coordinators and except when he had Saquon, never much success on the offensive side of the ball. And they just can't seem to develop talent on the offensive line.

[@johnhaversack1634]

Franklin resume against Mich/OSU..like 4-17...vs top 10 opp..6-20....good enough for another 8 years/80 plus mill.

[@michaelhenry8890]

He’s the reason they aren’t favored! $8m a year salary is way way way too much.

[@docrosko]

With the addition of Oregon and Washington next season, Penn State is a solid #5 in the B1G. Sad to say, but they are going to be hard pressed to do better. Sure Michigan might have a few down years and PSU will be #4, but the B1G is now in my opinion going to be a more difficult conference than the SEC in 2024.

[@BoschhammerActual]

awful takes on so many levels here 😂

[@docrosko]

@@BoschhammerActual Thanks for responding to a 10 month old comment. It boosts my self esteem to know people still care.

[@BoschhammerActual]

@@docrosko oh boy, you’re gonna flip when you realize the internet is forever. Hope you enjoy your newfound self esteem 🤣

[@SneakedUppp]

Michigan and Penn St have the exact same offense. Good O-Lines, very bland playcalling, average QBs. Its just that Michigan has better RBs.

[@BoschhammerActual]

I cannot believe how incredibly bad this take is in hindsight

[@canamrtryder]

a lot of comments here sound like UGA's Mark Richt...was a good coach, very likable and a very good man, but could never get UGA over the hump...so Franklin is B10's Mark Richt

[@DMS-pq8]

To all Penn St fans that want to send Franklin packing let me ask you who you could get that would be better?

[@Shibby.]

I don’t want Franklin gone, I just want him out of the offense. He’s a great recruiter, just sucks in big time games.

[@someguy6212]

Urban Meyer, Matt Campbell, Jeff Traylor, Jim Lehnard, Mike Elko, Johnathon Smith, Chris Kleiman, Lance Leopold, Kalen Deboer, Willie Fritz, etc etc

[@DMS-pq8]

@@someguy6212 You really sure any of them would do better than Franklin?

[@someguy6212]

@@DMS-pq8 Yes. I used to support Franklin but he has had 10 yrs to show what he can do. I honestly believe that one of those coaches on the list could take PSU to the next level, they are hungry.

[@DMS-pq8]

@@someguy6212 Not saying you are wrong but how many teams have fired a good coach wanting to to get to the next level only to have the program fall apart, Nebraska firing Frank Solich and Bo Pelini come to mind

[@BKrispy1]

This is one of the best/worst things about CFB fanbases. I’m not saying Penn State can’t be a championship program, but to say Franklin can’t win a big game is ridiculous. He loses to Ohio State and Michigan. Guess what, so does everyone else not named Alabama, Georgia, etc. To be clear, I have zero skin in the Big 10 or Penn State. Edited for typo.

[@jayrod1980]

PSU could do a lot worse. Who are they going to hire? They have to decide if they are okay winning 9-10 games a year consistently or if they are going to go for broke. Maybe the AD needs to be more involved in the next OC hire?

[@someguy6212]

Penn St should be competing for championships. Urban Meyer, Mike Elko, Matt Campbell, Jeff Traylor, Jim Lehnard are a few names that would be upgrades over Franklin.

[@corybrockman1865]

@@someguy6212 No they wouldn't be. Maybe Meyer ignoring all his issues, but none of the others would be.

[@someguy6212]

@@corybrockman1865 Franklin has had 10 years to show what he can do. Maybe give one of those other coaches a chance to show what they can do at an elite program.

[@brettjern3264]

Penn State needs to fire Franklin. He is mediocre at best. He can't beat Ohio State or Michigan and he is in a terrible conference. He will always just be the 3rd best in that crap conference. No reason Penn State shouldn't beat Ohio State and Michigan as much as they get beat. They are not a top 10 team. In the SEC they would have 5 losses a year. Move on and get yourself someone that can beat Michigan and Ohio State and make some playoff runs.

[@zackarykasprzak3073]

I think penn states problem isnt that they lost to michigan and ohio state again, its that this roster has so many great players and they still lost. This team honestly is probably the best team that franklin has had and with the strength of michigan and osu its basically irrelevant. Its hard to believe things will line up in a way that will be advantageous to them the way they did this year for a minute

[@glahut93]

Franklin is perfect fit for Penn state. Both are incapable of being champion s

[@timsimmons5287]

Looks like they just lost to a better team. Imagine the score if Michigan had their head coach.

[@jeremysullivan1417]

No "very good" coach would go for 2 when down by 9 that late in the game. Failing to get the 2 points meant the game was over because you left it a 2 possession game, when you could have taken the free point and made it a 1 possession game. Nevermind stupidly going for 2 in the first half when there was no reason to do so. Also, nevermind going for it on 4th down from your own 30, when you had over 4 minutes left and 2 time outs. Franklin's horrible decisions in this game account for at least 9 points, which was exactly the margin they lost by.

[@KRG30001]

Last dude chimed in at the end with the worst take possible

[@HondoHoss77]

He’s just a different shade of Mark Richt.

[@dr.lumpypants3530]

Well Diaz has a few more years at Penn State. Programs aren’t gonna forget how he stank it up at Miami as a head coach

[@Penn_State_Nittany_No_Huddle]

He was 21-15 in 3 years. Franklin same years 22-13

[@beersmoker4444]

Penn state is consistently the 3rd best team in the B10...nothing more nothing less. They are annually Overrated as a team to make Ohio state and Michigan look stronger than they are.

[@lfslater9218]

That is why it was such a easy bet...it was a just hand me the money game. $$$

[@seanakima50515e]

With Oregon and Washington coming along with UCLA. Penn State could easily drop to #5 or #6 in the confrence, hell if Nebraska gets it together they could drop to #7 Ohio State Michigan Oregon Washington UCLA Nebraska USC James better get it together

[@tima.5533]

Oregon I’ll give you, but Washington loses Penix, USC is a mess and loses Caleb, and LOL UCLA? They’re a dumpster fire and Chip Kelly is about to get canned.

[@vinnieheaters]

Penn state beat the fucking shit out of the PAC12 champ last year

[@veryinteresting591]

PSU’s offense is pathetic. Big 10 is the JV LEAGUE.

[@hector8491]

Penn State has reached it's ceiling with Franklin and now they are delaying the inevitable - Franklin won't make it through the end of his contract, which i believe goes into 2029-2030. They might as well end the contract now because he has proven 1) he can't win the big games, 2) makes poor in gane decisions, and 3) cannot develop talent.

[@johnbondola3246]

Record after a bye week, 4 - 7.

[@bradspicks]

James Franklin can beat Iowa @ home lol

[@danhealyeverythingoutdoors7105]

He puts a great product on the field , but he just flat out can't coach period !

[@Stringerbell5]

Ok recruiter terrible coach. 1-12 against top ten teams

[@notpoliticaljustarealist3969]

As i said before the game. Penn state always folds when playing real competition

[@someguy6212]

Fire Franklin. Hire Urban.

[@GDoggy-em2xc]

Someguy: Forget about Urban. That man is long gone as a football coach. Even in the slight chance that he would want to get back into coaching…… I would not want him to coach my team if I was the AD. No way. The Man would leave after one season maybe two seasons at most. Look at Ohio State they’ve not won a Natty since he left them high and dry. He abandoned them just like he abandoned Florida. Florida has been absolutely garbage since he left them.

[@someguy6212]

@@GDoggy-em2xc He loved Ohio St. He was quietly forced out because of the stupid domestic dispute involving one of his coaches. When that mickey mouse scandal broke out the University did not support him properly. He doesn't want to be remembered for his time in Jacksonville. He wants at least one more natty.

[@michaelhammond7115]

I've been saying it for 5 year.....dude lives the camera too much, he's a clown

[@jefferyparker4277]

I think the overrated talk with Josh is about semantics. I feel lines are about bettors behaviors. Bookies are trying to get even money. While the teams matter (obviously), lines are really about betters emotions. As for what people mean when they say overrated, they mean the way media members and the general public RATE people. I do think Penn St (not necessarily, James Franklin), in general, is overrated. Joe Pa made the fan base think they were world beaters by being independent for a long time about just beating up on the slippery rocks and directional schools of the world. When Penn St joined the Big10 and started playing quality competition on a weekly basis, they found their true level. 3 Big 10 titles in 35 years - 2nd tier behind UM and OSU - along the lines of Wisconsin. No shame in that, it just reality and needs to be accepted.

[@litedawg]

He should be fired for going for 2 after the last PSU td. They didn’t convert and then were down 9 , 2 scores , w 2 minutes to go. Ridiculous coaching . Plus Allar looks like a lost sheep that is about to be eaten by a wolf.

[@djkilla0655]

Why is this so surprising u can’t take penn state serious at all they do this every year I need the college football media to stop overrating penn state the big ten is absolute trash

[@squigglyline2813]

Ever consider you've reached your full potential?

[@tl5606]

Pate literally does not understand what the word overrated means lol.

[@MrMcgooOG]

Not a good coach who just got an extension.

[@rico4695]

Your argument makes no sense. Good coaches have to win some of the games they're not favored to win. He hardly wins any. "Big Game James" can only beat teams where he has superior talent. If he has equal or less talent. He has no clue how to win. He has no strategy. He has no intelligent game planning. He has no mid game adjustments. He is a lousy coach!!!!!!!! Ten games in to the season and no receivers...a quarterback in decline...who's fault is that?????

[@guineveregruntle6746]

Franklin is overrated. His resume proves that much. He’s a good coach but not a great coach. Penn State will not reach The Promise Land under his leadership unless some philosophical changes are not made.

[@Grayson950815]

The Sandusky Curse strikes once more! ⚡️

[@chrish9502]

2 bald guys in 1 vid, nice

[@kevinpowers2959]

"PENN STATE ONLY LOST BECAUSE MICHIGAN CHEATED!!! Oh wait, we can't use that excuse anymore"

[@dks23zak]

These programs that are satisfied with winning 9 to 10 wins a season is absurd. All the money these coaches are making they should be held to Championship standards. And as long as the fan base is ok with mediocre then enjoy the cheez it bowl

[@usflsnumber1fan280]

So what you are telling everyone if Kirby does not win the Natty this year or next he should be fired!

[@dks23zak]

@@usflsnumber1fan280 he’s back to back Champion look what he’s done in 8 years and look what Franklin has done in 10 yrs. Now your being a idiot. Why would I want Kirby fired? What I’m saying is every Coach should have the Championship mentality that Kirby has. Kirby’s hard work has paid off. Franklin’s part time work hasn’t. The problem is most Head coaches are afraid to fire their assistants and from their buddy ball friendships cost them their job.

[@usflsnumber1fan280]

So Nick Saban should be fired if he does not win the Natty this year since he has not won one since 2020.

[@dks23zak]

@@usflsnumber1fan280 Cmon man do you think Nick Saban’s goal is not win a natty every year.. quit being stupid I’m talking about these middle of the road programs. Your goal should be to win the National Championship every F’ing year. Period

[@GDoggy-em2xc]

USF: Honestly if Saban doesn’t win the Natty this year I think the fans are gonna pressure the AD to get Saban to retire. Give Saban a nice severance package for all the outstanding things he has done for the program. But get Lane Kiffin in as the new HC. I really think so. Bama fans are not accustomed to going years without a Natty.

[@dks23zak]

He (Franklin) would’ve been fired immediately following the Michigan game that was embarrassing Penn State should do better