Josh Pate's Top 10 CURRENT College Football Programs (Late Kick Cut)

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Late Kick with Josh Pate

Late Kick with Josh Pate

Жыл бұрын

College Football's 2023 spring practice has opened all across the country and on Late Kick Live Ep 373 Josh Pate responded to a viewer question about what his top ten CURRENT programs are. With UGA and Alabama seeming to separate themselves a bit at the top with sustained runs of excellence, how do things stack up behind them? What order should Michigan and Ohio State be listed in? Where do the Clemson Tigers fit? How much representation does the Pac12 get with programs like Utah and USC? Is Notre Dame a top 10 program? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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@LateKickwithJoshPate
@LateKickwithJoshPate Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching - remember to like the video and subscribe to the channel. Feel free to disagree but INCLUDE YOUR LOGIC. - JP
@blackgeauxtee4743
@blackgeauxtee4743 Жыл бұрын
LSU Not in the top 10 is a joke! SEC west Champs 2 of the last 4 years. (Is the SEC west not the hardest conference in college football?) SEC Champs 3 times in the last 15 years. And 4 appearances in the National title game with a 3 and 4 record in the last 20. That is the definition of a top program. You are wrong in this . This can actually be proven. LSU has had to beat 3 teams on this list to win national titles, BUT we are not mentioned. COME ON JOSH. I know you don't dislike LSU but this list is wrong not to include us. And to mention us in the same breathe as Tennessee? I may be wrong but I believe they have beat us once in the past 20 years, and that was this past season. Incompetent coaching aside LSU is definitely a top 10 program. Over the past 20 yrs, decade, and 5 years span, and today! Little Joker=Brian Kelly, Big Joker = Scott Woodward ♠️
@ericduncan7266
@ericduncan7266 Жыл бұрын
Ain’t really a whole lot to argue about. I agree with your top 10.
@skii1410
@skii1410 Жыл бұрын
@@ericduncan7266 no way you think Utah, USC, and Penn state are top 10 programs based off his criteria and LSU isn’t..
@KFBALL247
@KFBALL247 Жыл бұрын
Having Utah/USC/Penn State/Notre Dame/Oklahoma on here and not Oregon and LSU is a joke…
@caleb88k
@caleb88k Жыл бұрын
As a Georgia fan I'm enjoying this prosperity to the fullest. I've been waiting my whole life for UGA to be this good and I know nothing lasts forever.
@fadedlobo
@fadedlobo Жыл бұрын
Holy heckfire....... .....a rational down to earth Georgia/SEC fan.
@legacyofthe243
@legacyofthe243 Жыл бұрын
@fadedlobo nah, trust me, there's plenty of us that are realistic and reveling in it for here and now but know that it won't last forever. Hell, it may not last as long as Bama's reign has lasted but damn, does it feel oh so good deep down in the intestinal fortitude 🤣 I'm 35 yrs old, I wasn't even a twinkle in my dad's eye the last time UGA won a natty before '21 but we'll take the ride as long as it'll take us and have us
@NoahHunterGamble
@NoahHunterGamble Жыл бұрын
@@legacyofthe243yessir!! Seems most non bandwagon Georgia fans are like this. We all know the feeling of 41 years of almost winning it all; always being 2,3, or 4th best. I’m floating on cloud 9 and I pray it never stops. HBTFD
@benallen7105
@benallen7105 Жыл бұрын
@@legacyofthe243 My freshman year was Richt's first year and it has been so great being generally in the conversation but we were an after thought on the national stage because we never broke through. Nebraska, Florida State, Tennessee, Miami, Southern Cal, Florida were all where we are now and it has disappeared for them. So yeah, I"m gonna enjoy this knowing it certainly can end very quickly.
@legacyofthe243
@legacyofthe243 Жыл бұрын
@Ben Allen so here's a story 😂 my ex-wife got me an autographed photo from Richt for my wedding gift, said congratulations on your wedding day and all. Fast forward a few wks, he was gone lol
@nyckhewks8454
@nyckhewks8454 Жыл бұрын
LSU not being on this list is insane.
@lawv804
@lawv804 Жыл бұрын
As an LSU fan, it doesn't bother me. The team does better when they have a chip on their shoulder.
@GBamaBoy
@GBamaBoy Жыл бұрын
You're not consistent. LSU can win 11 games in 2023 and also lose 4. That's the issue. LSU lost 4 games in 2022.
@danielbush7914
@danielbush7914 Жыл бұрын
@@GBamaBoy LSUs problem isn’t consistency.. they just aren’t good. They had One good year in the past 10. They just aren’t the team fans think they are. They literally peaked this past season and won’t even win 8 this year
@SeraphicThunder
@SeraphicThunder Жыл бұрын
Not really. LSU is one of more talented teams, year in and year out. They are consistently a 2-4 loss team with the exception of the Burrow run. They were dysfunctional in 2020 and 2021 and they had just moved on from Les Miles in was it 2015 or 2016? They caught lightning in a bottle in 19 but haven't been good consistently. That being said, they are trending up. Still work to be done and can't put them here after a 4 loss season but win the west a couple more years and then you see the consistency you'd want from a top program
@INoticeTooMuch1
@INoticeTooMuch1 Жыл бұрын
@@danielbush7914 we won 10 games in 2018 and 2022. Also we would’ve had 10 wins in like 2014 or something but a game got cancelled. Why do you dick ride LSU in every video where they are mentioned? Are you okay bro?
@PsychedelicFern
@PsychedelicFern Жыл бұрын
Everyone below 5 could be swapped out with at least 10 other teams not listed and no one would bat an eye, but to not include LSU in the top ten is mind boggling to me. The only CFP era National Champ not listed, and OU gets the benefit of the doubt but LSU doesn’t?
@danielbush7914
@danielbush7914 Жыл бұрын
LSU is a just repeating what Florida did with Dan Mullen.. I agree that his top 10 is wild as hell but I don’t think LSU is a top 10
@PsychedelicFern
@PsychedelicFern Жыл бұрын
@@danielbush7914 I guess time will tell how Brian Kelley does, but he has a much better track record than Dan Mullen. I'm not sure why his program just imploded 3 years later, but I doubt that will happen with Coach Kelly. He has consistently won wherever he went, has made winning teams out of 4 different programs, and has been a head coach for over 30 years. I like our odds.
@danielbush7914
@danielbush7914 Жыл бұрын
@@PsychedelicFern my only problem with Kelly is he lost almost every big game. He got destroyed against Bama and struggled with smaller conference teams consistently… guy hasn’t done anything worth being a top 10 coach
@Decade_of_the_Dawg
@Decade_of_the_Dawg Жыл бұрын
He said current top 10. LSU is not a current top 10. Is it that hard to understand?
@PsychedelicFern
@PsychedelicFern Жыл бұрын
​@@Decade_of_the_Dawg Lol just read the rest of the comments on why you can make a good argument that they are. I'm not wasting my time.
@Eovol
@Eovol Жыл бұрын
Josh your criteria for including OU and USC in the top 10 conflicts with your reasoning to keep LSU out
@cconnell7009
@cconnell7009 Жыл бұрын
Sooner fan here. Easily an argument for LSU’s inclusion as well as Tennessee’s to a lesser degree, though I think Tennessee can say they had a better 2022 than LSU (with all due respect). I’m not real high on Penn State or Notre Dame. Utah, USC, and OU all have arguments for exclusion, too. The thing about OU is that they just experienced their first losing season in 25 years, after losing by 3 to #10 Florida State in Orlando. The 25 years is a good reason to bet on the Sooners bouncing back, but also an argument to exclude if things turned South so quickly when they had the first head coach ever leave the university for another program (TBOW to USC). I’m in wait and see mode on OU. Sky isn’t falling. They’re replenishing the bare cupboards that were looted. I’m hoping they regain their swagger, so we’re not limping into the SEC gauntlet!
@johncouch2115
@johncouch2115 Жыл бұрын
Quick comparison between LSU and USC: Similarities: Last year, both had a great year after hiring a new top caliber head coach. Both lost in their respective conference championships. Differences: Record from the last 5 years: LSU: 46-19, USC: 33-24 (Keep in mind that USC played fewer games and yet still managed to rake in more losses--in the PAC-12 no less!) Average Recruiting Ranking from the last 5 years: LSU: 7th, USC 19th. (Even the current rankings have LSU up on USC by six spots! Should not the recruiting rankings factor highly in this discussion, since they measure where the top players in the country want to play? Isn't that a pretty good indicator as to where these programs are currently?) National Championships in the last 5 years: LSU: 1, USC: 0. Record against JP's top ten list in the last 5 years: LSU 6-3, USC: 3-7.
@-sensibleChris
@-sensibleChris Жыл бұрын
USC is definitely not a top 10 program right now. LSU should be ahead of Notre Dame, Penn State, Michigan, Utah, OU, and very obviously USC. I am a Sooner fan for perspective.
@lawv804
@lawv804 Жыл бұрын
There's zero justification to rank USC above LSU. LSU had bad seasons in 2020 and 2021, which were outliers in all the 2000s. Aside from those 2 seasons, they haven't finished with worse than 8 wins since the 1990s despite being in the toughest division in CFB. USC has been an afterthought despite being in one of the weakest P5 conferences since Pete Carrol left. USC is just a few seasons separated from a recruiting class ranked in the 70s.
@tileavenue6911
@tileavenue6911 Жыл бұрын
USC plays LSU now, LSU will get run off the field
@TheSharkulator
@TheSharkulator Жыл бұрын
@@tileavenue6911 I'm sure you said that about Tulane too...
@Decade_of_the_Dawg
@Decade_of_the_Dawg Жыл бұрын
USC is hot garbage and will continue to be. LSU problem is they demand results every year and when they have a down year they fire the coach. It's that simple.
@elijah-bu3dt
@elijah-bu3dt Жыл бұрын
Where is LSU? Plus, I would have Ohio State at three and Michigan at four.
@elijah-bu3dt
@elijah-bu3dt Жыл бұрын
@Burner’s burner account Well, I mean true, But Ohio State does recruit better,.so keep that in mind.
@robyjohnYT
@robyjohnYT Жыл бұрын
@@elijah-bu3dt ?????? Sure but everybody is coming back for Michigan, and you didn’t even have to deal with Corum whom is a nastier runner than edwards
@calebleeson5662
@calebleeson5662 Жыл бұрын
@burnersburneraccount3466play schemes, as you can also tell from the past 2 years Michigan chokes outside the conference
@skibbyb
@skibbyb Жыл бұрын
Bro, where is LSU? Second only to BAMA in number of NC's in the past 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beat OSU, Clemson + OU in those NC games. Sorry Josh, you missed the boat on this one. Plus, LSU played for another NC and lost to guess who, Bama. If you're only going by the last 5 years, LSU = undefeated NC season, beating many of the teams on this list (Bama, Clemson, OU, Georgia). LSU's recruiting rankings the past five years = 6, 12, 3, 4, 5 (currently ranked 2 for the 2024 season). So I'm wondering, HOW is LSU not on this list?
@dionmike8312
@dionmike8312 Жыл бұрын
Not to count how many players they put in the league with possibly the greatest team of all time..Is he serious Oklahoma on the list and not LSU u sleep at the wheel🤯
@phizzmark6201
@phizzmark6201 Жыл бұрын
No LSU? Won the west last year with new coach. What did OK do? 3 natties this century. Michigan, Penn State, Utah with any natties ?
@NukaCola6962
@NukaCola6962 Жыл бұрын
Boy that was the early 2000s, this is 2023 and things are different today then they were back during the Lincoln riley and baker in a ohio bakery Mayfield days
@Liam22278
@Liam22278 Жыл бұрын
He didn’t want everyone to think he was an SEC homer so he went through mental gymnastics on 6-10
@anubiam3004
@anubiam3004 Жыл бұрын
@@wesleyowens4089 WHAT?! Cinci? TCU, FSU and Oregon (which I consider myself a fan of) are not programs on the level of any of the 10 listed. LSU is a glaring omission. SEC championship proved they can move the ball and put up points on UGA type teams, lack of depth on D kept that game from being more competitive.
@anubiam3004
@anubiam3004 Жыл бұрын
I think USC is about to be really good again. Not a fan for the record perfectly happy with 4-9, but they are going to average 45pts/game that D doesn't even need to be ok. Just not being pathetic means they win10-11 games. TCU and Cinci are mid majors that have been good, but are no threat to the elite programs in the SEC/Big 10 (counting USC as BIg 10 because they will be soon.) By no threat, I saying almost nobody choosing between playing at those schools is going to choose them over the USC type team.
@kevinchandler179
@kevinchandler179 Жыл бұрын
​@Wesley Owens Are you kidding, or literally insane??? Lol My Nittany Lions 🦁 are the fastest rising program, and we are already a blue blood program, we are actually too low!!!! Penn State is a 5 literally!!!!
@davidgibson8484
@davidgibson8484 Жыл бұрын
It's your ranking, so you chose the criteria , Just not sure how USC can be an exception and not LSU. LSU won a national championship in 2019. Won 10 games in 2018 in the SEC West and have top 10 recruiting classes each of the last 3 years. The only way I see USC being a better program than LSU is if you are including historical data. Also, why did Brian Kelly leave Notre Dame for LSU?
@7USC7
@7USC7 Жыл бұрын
USC is a different animal. They have the most Heismans (should actually have 2 more). The most NFL draft picks, the most players in the Pro Football Hall of Fame..on and on and on.
@davidgibson8484
@davidgibson8484 Жыл бұрын
@Michael McCaffery the Heisman is a popularity contest. LSU has had more players drafted in last 10 years. Actually 20 more.
@7USC7
@7USC7 Жыл бұрын
@David Gibson sigh....College football ebbs and flows. No doubt you're a youngster with very little experience. USC has the most NFL draft picks all time. The most Heismans, the most players in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, THE most first round draft picks...on and on and on. SC had to overcome sanctions by the NCAA. They've now overcome everything and SC is back!!!! USC is starting another dynasty. I believe Duce Roboinson the #1 TE just committed. NO SCHOOL HAS SWAG LIKE USC. THERE ARE TWO BIG DOGS OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL ALABAMA AND USC....PERIOD
@davidgibson8484
@davidgibson8484 Жыл бұрын
@Michael McCaffery tell that to Harvard. Besides he said top programs now. If he were looking at historically sure. But not now, based on the past 3 years, 5 years, or 10 years.
@7USC7
@7USC7 Жыл бұрын
@David Gibson IF you haven't been paying attention, USC is building another dynasty. They had a good year....next year will be even better. I've been around football all my life...almost 20 as a player and many more as a coach. Teams like USC and Alabama are in a class by themselves. If you think about all of the most famous players in history, USC dominates that list. Also, when people make the TOP TEN TEAMS OF ALL TIME: USC HAS 2 DIFFERENT TEAMS ON THAT LIST. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT ALL IN ALL LSU AND USC ARENT COMPARABLE. NAME A LSU PLAYER WHOS WON A HEISMAN OR IS IN THE PRO FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME??? USC HAS: RON YARY, ANTHONY MUNOZ, BRUCE MATHIEWS, RONNIE LOTT, MARCUS ALLEN, TROY POLAMALU, TONY BOSSELI, FRANK GIFFORD, LYNN SWANN, WILLIE WOOD PLUS A FEW I CANT THINK OF... ALSO USC HAS THE MOST SUPERBOWL MVP'S...AND-. HEISMANS: MIKE GARRETT, OJ, CHARLIE WHITE, MARCUS ALLEN, CARSON PALMER, MATT LIENHART, REGGIE BUSH AND CALEB WILLIAMS. SIDE NOTE: ANTHONY DAVIS SHOULD HAVE WON IN 74 AND RICKY BELL SHOULD HAVE WON. In 74 everyone voted before the USC Notre Dame game. It was basically a tie between Griffin and Davis. USC WAS DOWN 24-0. DAVIS EXPLODED IN THE SECOND HALF TO SCORE 4 OR 5 TD'S WITH A SECOND HALF KICK OFF RETURN OF 102 YARDS. USC WON 55-24 ALL IN 2 QTRS!!!!! IF YOUVE NEVER SEEN THE 1974 SC ND GAME I SUGGEST YOU WATCH IT ON KZbin. THAT SC TEAM IS EXACTLY WHY USC IS SO STORIED..... LSU IS A GREAT FOOTBALL PROGRAM...YES!!! BUT THERE ARE ONLY 2 BIG DOGS ALABAMA AND USC.
@anotheraggieburneraccount
@anotheraggieburneraccount Жыл бұрын
LSU should be in the top 10 programs. They won a natty 4 years ago and, despite 2 losing seasons, came back last year and won the SEC West. They are unkillable.
@slomoshn6984
@slomoshn6984 Жыл бұрын
We don't need to be on his list. We weren't in 2018 either. Geaux Tigers!
@ghostwalker89
@ghostwalker89 Жыл бұрын
​​@@slomoshn6984 don't like that USC, ND, and OU are on, but not LSU.
@odasmith1215
@odasmith1215 Жыл бұрын
What about Auburn???? 2010 Natty Champs 2013 Natty runner ups had the game in the bag blew it 2017 beat the living life out of #1 GA then 7 days later beat the #1 Alabama by 2 scores. 2018 we put up 63 points on Purdue held them to 14 the same Purdue that beat OSU 2019 with a freshman QB beat #1 Alabama 2020 beats LSU BY 6000 2021 goes to LSU and win first time since Bill Cliton was in office Come on 2021 took #1 alabama into 4 OTs with a back up QB on 1 leg and a back up Kicker yes we fell short 24-22 But show my Auburn Tigers some love Not to mention 2019 with a freshman QB goes into Death Valley and we come up short by 3 points 23-20 LSU who had Joe, Justin, Moss,and Chase come on man
@ghostwalker89
@ghostwalker89 Жыл бұрын
@@odasmith1215 it's about, what have you done for me lately. Think of a 5 year snapshot.
@odasmith1215
@odasmith1215 Жыл бұрын
@@ghostwalker89 huh ? Since 2010 USC ND TEXAS OU have not won anything lpl
@judahalexander6946
@judahalexander6946 Жыл бұрын
Damn near unsubscribed not seeing LSU on here! 🤦🏽‍♂️ the disrespect never ends I see
@oLtizz
@oLtizz Жыл бұрын
no LSU ... na you trippin
@robertdalton48
@robertdalton48 Жыл бұрын
No LSU but Penn St and Notre Dame make this list love Josh but he is wrong on this!
@jamesdo3086
@jamesdo3086 Жыл бұрын
Neither Penn State or Notre Dame have gone .500 or below 2 of the last 3 years and fired their head coach but sure
@Ty-ml7ze
@Ty-ml7ze Жыл бұрын
Psu has been over lsu for years
@Ty-ml7ze
@Ty-ml7ze Жыл бұрын
However I’d put lsu over Oklahoma and Utah for sure
@Ty-ml7ze
@Ty-ml7ze Жыл бұрын
LSU had the best team of all time but other than that you guys have been mediocre for a while
@robertdalton48
@robertdalton48 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesdo3086 think three national championships make up for subpar seasons can’t remember the last championship for Pen St and ND well we know the recent history when they get to the CFP/BCS games!
@NDiddy
@NDiddy Жыл бұрын
Surprised to not see LSU anywhere from 6-10. I'd say they certainly have an argument next to OU, ND, or Penn State
@billnyedoesminecraftjoseph8379
@billnyedoesminecraftjoseph8379 Жыл бұрын
Agree as a PSU fan, lsu feels like the PSU of SEC west except they can a tually win nattys
@crittoneida958
@crittoneida958 Жыл бұрын
I just knew he was gonna put LSU in over Utah, USC or ND….
@mylifeasanactivist
@mylifeasanactivist Жыл бұрын
LSU has to go through Bama to win its division every year. We are about to see whether OU or LSU is the better team when OU tries their luck with the SEC.
@MyVisualRomance
@MyVisualRomance Жыл бұрын
@@mylifeasanactivist The past is the past but traditionally OU doesn’t do well against LSU.
@kevinchandler179
@kevinchandler179 Жыл бұрын
LSU and my Nittany Lions 🦁 are both very good and talented and scary!!! Reminds me of each other honestly, you guys in SEC west and my Nittany Lions 🦁 in the big ten east!!! I would absolutely love to meet up in the national title game this year!!! Good luck LSU, I actually like your program in the SEC, definitely don't want to see Bama or Georgia anymore, tired of seeing them win titles!!! WE ARE 🏈 Unrivaled
@caymanmickler5443
@caymanmickler5443 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Tennessee fan. I think we are a top ten program all the time, but currently... I agree with you. My problem is not having LSU in there. They've had 4 different coaches go to an SEC championship since 2000. They've won 3 NC with 3 different head coaches. I'd say that program has done something special in the last 22-23 years. They deserve a spot.
@tyrongentry5160
@tyrongentry5160 Жыл бұрын
Tennessee sucks!!!
@bulgen07
@bulgen07 Жыл бұрын
Im a Michigan fan and I agree. Id have LSU above at least Notre Dame and Penn State, if not higher
@volbound1700
@volbound1700 Жыл бұрын
Yeah as a Vols fan, I am alright with us being outside of top 10. 2008-2020 really hurt our program.
@DevinCHoyt
@DevinCHoyt Жыл бұрын
Have y’all learned how to win a game without destroying a football field yet? 😂😂
@Aldarion65
@Aldarion65 Жыл бұрын
@@DevinCHoyt like most other programs do after beating someone for the first time in year?
@usmcmike1
@usmcmike1 Жыл бұрын
How is LSU not on this list?
@MyVisualRomance
@MyVisualRomance Жыл бұрын
Josh has always had a bias against LSU. Even when they’re hittin on all 8 cylinders.
@mikerodgers7620
@mikerodgers7620 Жыл бұрын
Forget them
@dompolidori5313
@dompolidori5313 Жыл бұрын
who?
@mikerodgers7620
@mikerodgers7620 Жыл бұрын
@@dompolidori5313 LSU.
@MyVisualRomance
@MyVisualRomance Жыл бұрын
@@mikerodgers7620 Ellis Ewe 😂
@2r3notgoodas1
@2r3notgoodas1 Жыл бұрын
LSU not being a top 5 much less top 10 is simply so Hilarious that couldn't take this video seriously.
@jamesdo3086
@jamesdo3086 Жыл бұрын
Given that no other team in the top 5 has had back to back .500 seasons and fired a head coach in the past 3 years, this sounds entirely biased
@Jduhon702
@Jduhon702 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesdo3086 LSU the only team in there with only one losing season in the last 23 years and multiple national championships
@matthewtrujillo3309
@matthewtrujillo3309 Жыл бұрын
One 11+ win season in the last decade One SEC title in the last decade One playoff appearance in the last decade One natty in the last decade Six 4+ loss seasons in the last decade, including 2020-2022 Averaging 3 losses in the SEC in the last decade You seriously think that’s a top 5 program? Lol
@the_bottle_imp
@the_bottle_imp Жыл бұрын
LSWho?
@2r3notgoodas1
@2r3notgoodas1 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesdo3086 So your comprehesion levels are Low because i didn't hear him say its based on wins only.
@staffordac
@staffordac Жыл бұрын
coming from an Ohio State fan I was very surprised to not see LSU on this list, I’d replace Utah, USC or Oklahoma with LSU
@curtbowers7817
@curtbowers7817 Жыл бұрын
Yes just like Ohio St not deserving to be in last year’s playoffs.
@staffordac
@staffordac Жыл бұрын
@@curtbowers7817 who should have made it over Ohio State?
@33alltheway14
@33alltheway14 Жыл бұрын
Oklahoma baby woooo
@calebleeson5662
@calebleeson5662 Жыл бұрын
@@curtbowers7817hey have a good game in Atlanta, they deserved it *gave*
@jamarreid1082
@jamarreid1082 11 ай бұрын
@@staffordacgood question, notice he had no reply 😂
@TnT_shadow9
@TnT_shadow9 Жыл бұрын
I’m biased for sure but I think LSU cracks the top 10. Like this list and content but I would take my program over a lot of these listed.
@dylan8738
@dylan8738 Жыл бұрын
I'd put us top 5. He's trippin, especially for putting psu, utah, OU, usc and Michigan over LSU.. we don't live in the 20th century anymore 🙄 Lsu has the 2nd most rings next to Bama since 2000, and was the best program from 2000-2011. And the last 4 years we have a ring and 2 sec west titles 🤷‍♂️ Pates smoking meth or something
@travisn346
@travisn346 Жыл бұрын
Auburn and LSU are Top 10 programs. No question.
@davideskew6065
@davideskew6065 Жыл бұрын
Not consistent enough year to year.
@davideskew6065
@davideskew6065 Жыл бұрын
​@travisn346 Auburn that is delusion my friend..
@TnT_shadow9
@TnT_shadow9 Жыл бұрын
@@davideskew6065 we had two bad years, outside of those two years we have been very consistent.
@kuillugnaughty5840
@kuillugnaughty5840 Жыл бұрын
Michigan above Clemson and Ohio state is crazy lol we’re talking programs not last 2 seasons
@christianrapper
@christianrapper Жыл бұрын
You know that this is HIS top ten right? It’s not the official list. It’s all subjective.
@mikeworkman1759
@mikeworkman1759 Жыл бұрын
Okay so talking programs, Michigan is the most winningest program in the country, owns OSU in all time, longest streak, and current streak by a wide margin victories. Now talking about current performance and future: back to back BigTen Champs, 12-2 and 13-1 in both years, and back to back playoffs appearances. Their 2023 team is looking to be even better than last year's team, their 2024 recruiting class is shaping up to be their best in over 2 decades so their future is looking even brighter than what they've done in the past 2 years with making the playoffs and a combined record of 25-3...now, what argument would you have to have Ohio State or Clemson over Michigan? Michigan's program is definitely on the rise and in a big way.
@MooseGoBlue
@MooseGoBlue Жыл бұрын
Michigan is the winningest PROGRAM in CFB.
@jonwalter6317
@jonwalter6317 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeworkman1759 Still enjoying that 1947 title!!
@mikeworkman1759
@mikeworkman1759 Жыл бұрын
@@jonwalter6317 1997's national title was pretty sweet, last 2 years have been stellar and the team is looking more primed than the last 2 for a run at the playoffs again this year! Anymore questions troll?
@nickjohnson6368
@nickjohnson6368 Жыл бұрын
You’ve seriously ranked Utah ahead of LSU as a football program. Your dead to me Josh
@BoldandBrash12
@BoldandBrash12 Жыл бұрын
You’re* He also is ranking them based on the last 3-4 years. Learn some comprehension
@michaelokeefe8709
@michaelokeefe8709 Жыл бұрын
"You're", not "your".
@nickjohnson6368
@nickjohnson6368 Жыл бұрын
@@BoldandBrash12 your dead to me two
@nickjohnson6368
@nickjohnson6368 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelokeefe8709 your dead to me two
@michaelokeefe8709
@michaelokeefe8709 Жыл бұрын
You're dead to me too.
@user-ci7fw8eg8z
@user-ci7fw8eg8z Жыл бұрын
Josh, I'm a huge fan. You are by far one of the most charismatic, articulate, knowledgeable and all-around excellent host. I do have to unfortunately say that for the first time since listening, I'm really sour. Not having LSU on here felt disingenuous and not thought out to your usual level. I respect fully agree to disagree here, but love the show!
@fratersol
@fratersol Жыл бұрын
Since the bcs era(early 2000's) Lsu is second only behind Alabama in national titles.
@LateKickwithJoshPate
@LateKickwithJoshPate Жыл бұрын
Fact. Why is it relevant here? -‘JP
@hoffpauirconcrete.semperfidCC
@hoffpauirconcrete.semperfidCC Жыл бұрын
​@@LateKickwithJoshPateyou said Program top 10 program that last 3 coaches hired won a national championship and the new coach just won the hardest division in college football in his first year name any other program that has ever come close to that???
@dandanthecryptoman
@dandanthecryptoman 11 ай бұрын
@@LateKickwithJoshPatebud, have you hit your head? You have ND and Utah in the top 10 but not LSU. Cmon Josh, you either don’t watch CFB or you did this for clicks. Either way- lots of respect lost.
@justywhite7840
@justywhite7840 Жыл бұрын
LSU last 20 years. 3 national championships, played in another only losing to a team they beat in the season at their house. Show me a better program in the last 20. Alabama only.
@chrisfrmatl
@chrisfrmatl Жыл бұрын
LSU, who won a championship in 2019 and won the West last season, is bout a good if a program as Penn St and ND that hasn't won a championship since the *checks notes* 80s?
@andrewheskett6287
@andrewheskett6287 Жыл бұрын
LSU? Recruiting better than others, fantastic staff and trajectory, won in 2019. Ik 2021 was bad but OU had bad year and is 10 still
@TheWaterbouy88
@TheWaterbouy88 Жыл бұрын
Yep, LSU should be a head of USCand I am a Gator fan. LSU plays good football.
@favre4ever39
@favre4ever39 Жыл бұрын
I would take LSU over USC, while I agree that USC is the hotter program I feel that Riley is close to being a Mike Gundy just on a bigger scale. Coaches consistently, has good teams but, can never get over the hump of a title.
@creoleking6658
@creoleking6658 Жыл бұрын
No LSU tigers???
@bucks33331
@bucks33331 Жыл бұрын
More titles than buckeyes in last 20 years and they had to play in SEC. Josh says you’re not what you’re record is. Well let’s flip LSU and buckeyes schedules over 20 years. Have a feeling it will be very very different and I’m a buckeye
@dare2554
@dare2554 Жыл бұрын
LSU has not been consistently good like the other programs on the list
@danielthibodeaux3874
@danielthibodeaux3874 Жыл бұрын
@@dare2554 they’ve been better lmao, your comment is literally factually untrue. LSU went 20 years winning 8+ games until 2020. The 2020-2021 seasons were extreme outliers
@cadeford1740
@cadeford1740 Жыл бұрын
@@dare2554I would love to hear how Oklahoma has a better program than LSU
@dare2554
@dare2554 Жыл бұрын
@@cadeford1740 did you not listen to what Pate said at the end of the video?
@jabshire74
@jabshire74 Жыл бұрын
LSU? They won two National Championships with the program less stable. They have the best coach and structure since the Saban days. What would be the knock?
@jamesdo3086
@jamesdo3086 Жыл бұрын
I’d assume the fact that in the 2 years after the national championship they didn’t break .500 and fired Ed Orgeron.
@dylan8738
@dylan8738 Жыл бұрын
@James Do and then went right back to the sec championship game the very next year 🤔
@Shaggydamuslim
@Shaggydamuslim Жыл бұрын
They can't stay out of trouble
@kevinchandler179
@kevinchandler179 Жыл бұрын
It's about now, how the programs are going and arrow pointing up!!! Georgia, Bama, Ohio State, Michigan, and my Nittany Lions 🦁!!! The way they all recruit, depth and way things are looking going forward!!! Clemson, was great, Dabo had D. Watson, then T. Lawrence, now he recruits good, but no quarterback play everyone!!!
@thornslow
@thornslow Жыл бұрын
​@@dylan8738 They lost.
@terrymillionarejones1185
@terrymillionarejones1185 Жыл бұрын
If anything LSU should be on here over USC they haven't done anything outside of last year
@whatflavor2
@whatflavor2 Жыл бұрын
Having Michigan ahead of OSU and Clemson is too much recency bias
@hitwonder101
@hitwonder101 Жыл бұрын
Hate for clemson is real😅😅
@whatflavor2
@whatflavor2 Жыл бұрын
@@hitwonder101 I hate Clemson as much as the next guy. But Michigan over them is crazy
@DeshCanter
@DeshCanter Жыл бұрын
So Michigan would have lost to Notre Dame and South Carolina last season? Uh…..no. Trevor Lawrence WAS that program; they’ve struggled since he left….and one player can’t make a program. I love Dabo, but their program has regressed, and they’re in the 3rd best conference in the NCAA.
@whatflavor2
@whatflavor2 Жыл бұрын
@@DeshCanterMichigan fans get two wins against Ohio state in 20 years and don’t know how to act
@DeshCanter
@DeshCanter Жыл бұрын
@@whatflavor2 Two decisive wins against Ohio State, by 2 and 3 scores, including on the road, 2 Big 10 titles, 2 playoff berths. 20 years ago what was Clemson? We’re talking about the best programs now. Stay on point. Clemson lost to Notre Dame who lost to Stanford, and fricking Marshall and came dang close to losing to Navy! And you think Michigan is overrated?! Spare me.
@keithwarren2913
@keithwarren2913 Жыл бұрын
LSU won a title in 2019… and this man said himself he think they’ll win another one in the next 5 years but they’re not top 10 🤔🤫
@prestigecars9717
@prestigecars9717 Жыл бұрын
I’m an Auburn fan but LSU deserves to be on that top 10 with the best record championship-wise in the 21st century with the exception of Alabama. Won 3 and played for 4 titles, undefeated regular season in 2011 and 2019. Also has best recruiting grounds geographically speaking since only major school in the state and nearest top-program is hundreds of miles away. And then it’s also only school with 3 consecutive coaches to win national titles, with 2 of those coaches being arguably mediocre which just speaks more to the program as a place anyone can win. Not saying that this video is wrong based on the last 10 years metric, bc they haven’t been as consistently good in the playoff era, but according to this video future trajectory also matters. For example most people would agree that if ND, Utah, or Penn state won a title then it would be astonishing. But if LSU were to win then the it be par for the course as a top coach leading a top program to victory
@Duckswag87
@Duckswag87 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised Oregon isn’t in this, can’t wait to watch this season. I was surprised to see USC over them with 1 year of decent play vs oregons consistency. 11/15 seasons are 9+ wins
@RedFive03
@RedFive03 Жыл бұрын
He talked about Utah beating Oregon twice in 2021 but didn't mention Oregon beating Utah in 2022.
@vert1
@vert1 Жыл бұрын
Think I’d replace USC with LSU and Oklahoma with Oregon.
@adambradford1530
@adambradford1530 Жыл бұрын
Oregon is going to be playing in an irrelevant conference a year from now. And Lincoln Riley's track record gives him a slight nod over Brian Kelly. He obviously needs to fix things defensively, but when you get the kind of QB play that he's had, the floor is usually a top-15 finish
@TheBenzwanger
@TheBenzwanger Жыл бұрын
Why? What has Oregon shown? Brent Venables is stealing recruits away from Dan even after he gets them to sign. Ain't recruiting better and they'll be playing in a dead conference while Oklahoma will be playing in the SEC. Pretty easy to see the future of those programs and they are very different from each other.
@adambradford1530
@adambradford1530 Жыл бұрын
@@TheBenzwanger I think it's way too early to know much of anything about Lanning. He did a solid job with Cristobal's guys last year, but it will take a few seasons before we know whether or not he can do it with his guys. That being said, if they don't get an invite to the Big Ten, they could be in trouble, because the Pac-12 is falling apart in front of our eyes.
@adambradford1530
@adambradford1530 Жыл бұрын
@@wesleyowens4089 I mean maybe, but there is still going to be a huge gap between the SEC/Big Ten and everyone else
@sporttiger1766
@sporttiger1766 Жыл бұрын
Wow lsu getting super punished for 2 irregular seasons
@claysmith1347
@claysmith1347 Жыл бұрын
Only team I feel was left off is LSU. I guess they like to have their dips into being average, but typically those are closely followed by a National Championship run. I would place them probably at 6, but could fall anywhere from 6-10.
@willvantrease9846
@willvantrease9846 Жыл бұрын
Suprised to not see oregon
@brianwalden5734
@brianwalden5734 Жыл бұрын
At 6 I would have put LSU and I'm a Bama fan😊
@randykent9594
@randykent9594 Жыл бұрын
Josh has Georgia at #1 and not one person in the comments below are disagreeing. That's a really good feeling as a Georgia Bulldog.
@hudsonstovall8119
@hudsonstovall8119 Жыл бұрын
Georgia really is Alabama 2.0. That should conjure up an even better feeling! Only competition is Bama, really seems like a passing of the torch moment similar to when MJ and Kobe were playing against each other.
@wrenwillow9430
@wrenwillow9430 Жыл бұрын
It is a good feeling. Enjoy it while it lasts because it never lasts! (And I'm not being snarky, it's just the truth.)
@darronwilliams4641
@darronwilliams4641 Жыл бұрын
Ga earned it
@randykent9594
@randykent9594 Жыл бұрын
​@@wrenwillow9430 Thanks for telling me that the sky is blue.
@haroldfarquad6886
@haroldfarquad6886 Жыл бұрын
I have been quite annoyed with the obnoxiousness of Georgia fans in the last 6 months, but it's nearly impossible to make a case they aren't the best program in the game right now. They went back to back after losing an insane amount of NFL talent on defense, and don't have the glaring question marks that their near peers do going into 2023. There is a QB question, but not nearly as uncertain as say Bama or Ohio State, and there's virtually no reason to believe the rest of the team isn't going to reload at the same level as the last two seasons. The 2023 natty is Georgia's to lose.
@Alexbleedsorange
@Alexbleedsorange Жыл бұрын
Die hard vols fan here. Agree with everything Josh said. Maybe switch USC for LSU and that’s it imo. The case for both lsu and usc are valid though. GBO 🍊🍊🍊
@bobbysmith3196
@bobbysmith3196 Жыл бұрын
I’d put Bama ahead of Ga Ohio State and Clemy Plus LSU has to be in the top 10👍 Spurs Up ☝️ Go Gamecocks!!!👍🏈🏆
@Swerve-Online
@Swerve-Online Жыл бұрын
LSU? A national championship and SEC West division title in the past 4 years and a top 5 coach? And a favorite for next year? And top recruiting and portal classes? No one below Clemson even has an argument.
@matthewtrujillo3309
@matthewtrujillo3309 Жыл бұрын
Also three 4+ loss seasons in the past 4 years.
@Swerve-Online
@Swerve-Online Жыл бұрын
@Matthew Trujillo In the sec west, that's like 11-1 in the PAC ACC or Big12. Add in the greatest team of all time and a top 5 coach, less than 6th is ridiculous. Oklahoma and ND are going backwards. No way they should be on the list. Giving cupcakes conference wins more credit than big time wins is also a joke. Pate says you are not what your record says you are but then uses a record for this??
@matthewtrujillo3309
@matthewtrujillo3309 Жыл бұрын
@@Swerve-Online All you’re saying is LSU isn’t good enough to win in the best league in the sport. They’ve had one 11+ win season, one conference title, and one championship in the last decade and that’s all from the same squad. They average 3 conference losses in that same timeframe. Plus LSU has lost to UCLA, Kansas State, and Florida State all in the last three years. So much for that Pac 12, ACC, Big 12 argument.
@Swerve-Online
@Swerve-Online Жыл бұрын
@Matthew Trujillo All I'm saying is their resume is at least 6th on that list. You would have to be a moron to use the covid year for anything, so adding that to his 3 years just solidifies his awful take.
@matthewtrujillo3309
@matthewtrujillo3309 Жыл бұрын
@@Swerve-Online will never understand how fans, coaches, players, and national pundits all advocated for and coordinated with each other just to have a season in 2020 for then people to dismiss or ignore the results afterwards. Makes no sense
@paulsexton91
@paulsexton91 Жыл бұрын
I guess LSU is chop liver
@the_bottle_imp
@the_bottle_imp Жыл бұрын
LSWho?
@claypennington602
@claypennington602 Жыл бұрын
You’re right Josh, of course people are going to down on your USC placement. You out OU at #10 based on the last 10 years, not just last year, and then turnaround and rank USC ahead of them based off last year, not the last 10 years
@beersmoker4444
@beersmoker4444 Жыл бұрын
Holy cow this list has too many Pac 12 and Big 10 and not enough SEC schools. LSU would be over most of these teams, hell ask Notre Dames former coach how he feels about LSU.
@MrONeal
@MrONeal Жыл бұрын
LSU should be in the top 10 and Tennessee is on the fast track to cracking the top 5 after a few more seasons with Heupel, who is a wizard. 🧙‍♂️
@Light_Bearer_
@Light_Bearer_ Жыл бұрын
Tennessee is nowhere close to top 5 program lol
@TheRayfield77
@TheRayfield77 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@nashvegas4476
@nashvegas4476 Жыл бұрын
@@Light_Bearer_ Vols by a hundred, book it!!!! GBO!!!!!
@timmywilliams8077
@timmywilliams8077 Жыл бұрын
Tennessee should be a top team now. That’s just my opinion. Great at Football, Great at Basketball, Great at Baseball and Softball. Hell great at track. Tennessee is a Awesome Top College Sports Program. All at the Top.
@shannoncurl288
@shannoncurl288 Жыл бұрын
LSU > Notre Dame Strength of schedule not even close. Not even a tiger fan
@greakfreakmyboy9822
@greakfreakmyboy9822 Жыл бұрын
LSU not being on this list is a crime to society
@cainharris8072
@cainharris8072 Жыл бұрын
LSU is a Top 10 team and has a good chance to Win the West!
@Quigleyesq
@Quigleyesq Жыл бұрын
There are 5 other teams that are college football royalty--U Washington, Oregon, LSU, Auburn, Florida St., and maybe Texas and Wisconsin.
@jackmiller5269
@jackmiller5269 Жыл бұрын
LSU belongs where Nortre Dame is.
@jdot9453
@jdot9453 Жыл бұрын
People can twist it anyway they want, but the top 5 programs should be SEC schools.
@benjaminmason9217
@benjaminmason9217 Жыл бұрын
As an LSU fan, as I kept watching I was thinking “holy cow, he’s going to have us ranked way too high”. Then we got to the end and I threw my popcorn all over the living room. Utah!?!? USC?!?! Oklahoma!?!?!!! Look, it don’t have to be top 3 but you gotta put some respect on our name Pate State!
@strappeduptv3969
@strappeduptv3969 11 ай бұрын
Your not the only one in shock… He left me speechless 😂😂😂😂
@zackshewchuk8483
@zackshewchuk8483 Жыл бұрын
LSU has a Natty / perfect szn as of 2-3 years ago… that’s gotta crack the top 10
@lvli044
@lvli044 Жыл бұрын
I'd have them over OU and USC. But the problem is, it took them till the Auburn game this past season to win as many games since 2019 as they did in 2019. They only have one other double digit win season since idk. 2012?
@2r3notgoodas1
@2r3notgoodas1 Жыл бұрын
​@@lvli044the take says top Programs not wins. Texas is a bigger program/Brand than Penn st ot Utah and has less wins than those 2 Teams
@lvli044
@lvli044 Жыл бұрын
@@2r3notgoodas1 I'm looking at Pate's criteria as success over last season, the previous ~7 and projecting the next two years for a 10-year window of past, present, and future. I'm not factoring in brand size like thatt. So it's win total contextualized. The fact it took them 2.5 years to register 15 wins after the 15-0 season, it devalues the national title and perfect season on a program resume compared to a team that is making repeated NY6 appearances who doesnt have a title.
@jamesdo3086
@jamesdo3086 Жыл бұрын
Given that in the 2 previous years before this year they didn’t get above .500 and in the 5 years before the national championship year only had 1 10 win season, I’d say not putting them top 10 is valid
@matthewtrujillo3309
@matthewtrujillo3309 Жыл бұрын
They’ve also lost 4+ games in 3 of the last 4 years. Five 4+ loss season in the last seven seasons. Only one 11+ win season, one playoff appearance, and one sec title in the last decade and that’s all from one squad. Fringe top 10 at best.
@richardbarber462
@richardbarber462 Жыл бұрын
Twelve years ago, there would have been nobody that could foresee Penn State as one of the top 10 programs in College Football in 2023.
@christianrapper
@christianrapper Жыл бұрын
Yeah right
@charlesdaniels8181
@charlesdaniels8181 Жыл бұрын
Don’t see it now !
@adambradford1530
@adambradford1530 Жыл бұрын
12 years ago, Ryan Day was the WRs coach at Boston College, Lincoln Riley was at East Carolina, Brent Venables was about to be fired as Oklahoma's DC, and Utah had yet to play a game as a member of a P5 conference. Moral of the story-it's impossible to predict that far down the road. Also, after all of the appeals were said and done, Penn State wound up receiving a lesser penalty for the Jerry Sandusky scandal than USC did for Reggie Bush receiving money from an agent, which is still mind-boggling.
@Liam22278
@Liam22278 Жыл бұрын
Still dont
@TheMCJ2011
@TheMCJ2011 Жыл бұрын
@@charlesdaniels8181 lmao
@nibblerzmeal2546
@nibblerzmeal2546 Жыл бұрын
I’m not on social media anymore, but was wondering what your top 10 college football teams of all-time is.
@toddwright11
@toddwright11 Жыл бұрын
I'll take Clemson at 5... Remembering the old days of the 70's and mid-80s when Clemson could not buy a win. 55 year old, life long Tiger fan. Been there when we sucked, been there when we was "avg" and happy to be here when even ranking our program at 5 is a slap in the face to some... to me, its FINALLY getting a little love for the tigers... Thanks for your show, I enjoy watching you.
@randyskyrim1115
@randyskyrim1115 Жыл бұрын
Todd, I remember my Dawgs losing to Clemson in 1981, man I hated Clemson then! lol I think that was our only loss up til the Sugar Bowl that year. But, Clemson will be fine. Good coach, players, and a winning culture.
@russdunn1256
@russdunn1256 Жыл бұрын
Clemson sucks.
@Falconsfan1020
@Falconsfan1020 Жыл бұрын
@@randyskyrim1115I’ve always had a bitter taste in my mouth at the sight of Clemson and Penn state. Those early 80’s Georgia teams with walker should’ve been remembered for more than 1 title, and those are the teams that beat us for it.
@seldomseensavage3459
@seldomseensavage3459 Жыл бұрын
@@Falconsfan1020 with the talent UGA had during the Dooley years, they should’ve won more than one Natty. Most overrated coach ever (at UGA), & Erk should’ve been head coach imho…I will admit UGA played at a pretty high level those years & won a few SEC championships so Vince wasn’t the worst SEC coach of all time…that’d have to go to King Doofus, Ed Orgeron!!! Please no one tell me he won a Natty…Dave & Joe (Brady, & Burrow) did that
@fcon2002
@fcon2002 Жыл бұрын
I also remember watching them in the early 1970s. I remember them getting beaten by Wake Forrest and getting killed by SEC teams.
@realskeezy3601
@realskeezy3601 Жыл бұрын
I love the show, but this is an awful take not having LSU in your top 10 is crazy. National title in 2019. since 2018 three 10 win seasons & a national title lol BK first year SEC champ game.
@scotttuttle3513
@scotttuttle3513 Жыл бұрын
Come on Pate. You have PSU, OU, ND, UU, and even USC in there but not Tennessee or LSU? They just beat Clemson missing their best players. Wow.
@darthnatas953
@darthnatas953 Жыл бұрын
Josh, IMO, you can't do a list like this without defining a specific time frame. You talk about judging teams on the past three years in the beginning, and then you proceed to list what every team has accomplished over the past ten years. Clemson has been tremendous over a ten year time frame, but their "trajectory" is down, and even their administration knows they are falling behind on money, and are desperate to leave the ACC. I suspect a team like LSU would blow Clemson off of the field, probably next year, but certainly in years to come. The LSU program is set up for success, more than Clemson, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Penn State.
@bradm1366
@bradm1366 Жыл бұрын
“I thought Oregon was going to beat Utah in the regular season, then the championship game.” Uh. Are you looking at a wrong year? We did beat Utah in the regular season, and didn’t play in the 2022 championship? Gotta have your producer Jesse update the results from 2021 to 2022.
@danielstephenson3935
@danielstephenson3935 Жыл бұрын
I think LSU should have been in your Top 10. Towards the bottom like 9 or 10 but defiantly in the Top 10.
@christianrapper
@christianrapper Жыл бұрын
That statement is just like Josh saying that he doesn’t think that LSU should be in YOUR top 10.
@PureGeauxld
@PureGeauxld Жыл бұрын
Nope, LSU should be above Utah and ND
@91ATLbraves
@91ATLbraves Жыл бұрын
What about the SCLSU mud dogs?
@skipgumphrey9579
@skipgumphrey9579 Жыл бұрын
They’re ornery because they’ve got all those teeth and no tooth brush lol 😂
@nooneelsehasthisuser
@nooneelsehasthisuser Жыл бұрын
They no longer have high quality H2O😂
@steveUSC
@steveUSC Жыл бұрын
Great show Josh. 2023 will be a very interesting year from a program perspective going forward. So many schools have a good or bad year but that's all about a team not a program. I like the way you are organizing your thoughts on programs over time. USC's biggest issue is defense and a slightly over looked area is their Special Teams. The key to Lincoln Rileys huge potential is squarely on the defense improving 25-35% over last year statistically. They have brought in a very interesting recruiting class but also benefited again from the TP so in my humble opinion the lift here is not as severe as it felt going into 2023 exiting the Tulane loss.
@sportsbanter3885
@sportsbanter3885 Жыл бұрын
As a VOLS fan I have no problem with this top 10 list, the VOLS are on the right track but still need to sustain for a few more seasons to be considered, as he stated, this is not a 2022 season top 10, it is a "program" top 10...
@bengaltiger9891
@bengaltiger9891 Жыл бұрын
LSU not in top 10, huh!
@natestewart7428
@natestewart7428 Жыл бұрын
How is lsu not in here
@josephpfalzgraf
@josephpfalzgraf Жыл бұрын
How can u not have LSU in the top 10 but Penn st. And notre dame? The man that pulled notre dame out of the grave and rebuilt that program is at LSU now! Smh
@toofast4u2une
@toofast4u2une Жыл бұрын
Literally insane that LSU isn't on there. It's Not even about their potential ranking this coming year. You spoke of trajectory and then blatantly disregarded it. Three years does not make a program and this is what you based the entire segment on.
@gregoryfugal4722
@gregoryfugal4722 Жыл бұрын
I think bama is better program than Georgia, but Georgia has had the best stretch of success. I would also put Clemson at 3, ohio state 4, then Michigan 5 despite recent success. Clemson has proven they can beat the Bama types, they just can’t do it consistently. But that’s more than even Ohio State has done. LSU should be in over USC. I would put them where Penn st is, then Penn st 8, Oklahoma 9 and then Utah at 10. I would only have one pac12 team in, and it should be either Utah or Oregon. As a Utah fan I like Utah for what they do with less. If they continue to gain momentum their ceiling is higher with their current staff. But without coach Whit they could fall out of relevance, sadly enough. Here’s hoping he never retires.
@socialvoid
@socialvoid 11 ай бұрын
I agreed with every bit of that.
@gigidope
@gigidope Жыл бұрын
I would think LSU would be in there. Especially with that massive coaching change😏
@gerryneely9920
@gerryneely9920 Жыл бұрын
Please review this video at the end of the season. We would love to see it.
@junkhead53333
@junkhead53333 Жыл бұрын
they looked great in both their playoff appearances - georgia and tcu
@chuckwest7045
@chuckwest7045 Жыл бұрын
My argument against Utah is that they've only finished ranked in the AP Top Ten four times in their history. How do they suddenly become one? They lose 3-4 games every year. Good program but rarely great.
@gregoryfugal4722
@gregoryfugal4722 Жыл бұрын
It’s because what they do with their talent. Getting top 10 with top 40 talent, is crazy. Josh talked about the discrepancy of Michigan getting top 5 with top 15 recruiting, but that’s only a 10 point differential. Utah has roughly a 20+ point differential. This year they are top 25. If the tendency runs true then they can wind up top 5 in AP in the next few years.
@THEeyepatch11
@THEeyepatch11 Жыл бұрын
Wait... Is this "in history" or for this season? Because he keeps saying, "in the country" as in 2023.
@countryfriedhvac
@countryfriedhvac Жыл бұрын
I want to see a top 10 all-time list. A list that encompasses the program’s entire history taking into consideration National Titles, Total wins to loss ratio, professional players produced and current relevance.
@terrybrown9348
@terrybrown9348 Жыл бұрын
It would be 1. Bama. 2. Osu.
@countryfriedhvac
@countryfriedhvac Жыл бұрын
@@terrybrown9348 You are probably right.
@Decade_of_the_Dawg
@Decade_of_the_Dawg Жыл бұрын
The list would look almost the same if you factor in NFL players. Though LSU would have definitely made it.
@countryfriedhvac
@countryfriedhvac Жыл бұрын
@@Decade_of_the_Dawg Dude, Georgia is NOT a top 10 all time program
@Decade_of_the_Dawg
@Decade_of_the_Dawg Жыл бұрын
@@countryfriedhvac I never said they were
@tristenboyd2824
@tristenboyd2824 Жыл бұрын
I got a good question what do you think about Tennessee last year and there defense because we was ranked almost the worst and our defense didn’t play good every game but they had some really good games and good stops
@youngmurk100
@youngmurk100 Жыл бұрын
I come to Josh for all my cfb news u can tell he be really thoughtful about the questions and answers 😅
@blaiselejeune9879
@blaiselejeune9879 Жыл бұрын
I guess LSU doesn’t exist anymore 😂
@MyVisualRomance
@MyVisualRomance Жыл бұрын
Only in Josh’s head. 😂
@dompolidori5313
@dompolidori5313 Жыл бұрын
i love seeing michigan up there. weve waited so long for this and have finally gotten to where we need to be. Its not "Just beat osu" anymore. natty has been talked about
@travisn346
@travisn346 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea how Penn State is in there. They can't beat the 2 best teams in their own division.
@dompolidori5313
@dompolidori5313 Жыл бұрын
@conserv4256 it really doesnt matter. Bowl games are pointless unless you are in playoffs and/or national title. I don't care about our "scholastic book fair cheerio toilet bowl" games. Michigan makes it to cfp and now its time for them to win the whole thing. They will don't worry
@calebleeson5662
@calebleeson5662 Жыл бұрын
@@dompolidori5313you’re goofy, if you can even make it to the natty
@charlie_5918
@charlie_5918 Жыл бұрын
Georgia, Bama, Clemson, Ohio St, Michigan, OU, LSU, Utah, penn st, Oregon
@jasonp3717
@jasonp3717 Жыл бұрын
the twitter question coming from alabama yet his profile picture is for Michigan might be the craziest part of this video
@JesusChristISTHEONETRUEGOD
@JesusChristISTHEONETRUEGOD Жыл бұрын
Oklahoma, Lsu, Oregon and Wisconsin are better programs than noter damn.
@ayylmao1193
@ayylmao1193 Жыл бұрын
Wisconsin and Oregon 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@cmac8
@cmac8 Жыл бұрын
Dude snuck in Wisconsin like no one would notice 😂
@coburgerj1993
@coburgerj1993 Жыл бұрын
LSU has to be in there!
@hugeblue
@hugeblue Жыл бұрын
5/3/23- Josh LOVE your show ! You are by far the best in the business! You tell it like it is & we all crave that kind of attitude! I'm big Clemson Tiger Fan & liked your comments !
@aaha100
@aaha100 Жыл бұрын
The title of the video clearly says CURRENTLY in all caps and people still losing their minds 😆
@danielthibodeaux3874
@danielthibodeaux3874 Жыл бұрын
I like you a lot and respect your opinions but not having LSU in the top 10 and having those teams ahead of them is probably the worst take you’ve ever had. Even worse is you’re doubling down and trying to defend it lol. Just accept the L lol. That is an awful take but everyone has their bad moments
@lvli044
@lvli044 Жыл бұрын
Yeahh I think youre right. I'd prolly have them at 9. But I think it's moreso how little I think of OU and USC rn lol.
@danielthibodeaux3874
@danielthibodeaux3874 Жыл бұрын
@@lvli044 9 is still too low. They should be at like 5-6. Its a joke to have ND at 6 ahead of lsu. How is Utah and Penn state ahead of lsu? It just gets worse and worse the more u look at it
@lvli044
@lvli044 Жыл бұрын
@@danielthibodeaux3874 Well Penn State has more NY6 wins than LSU (and anyone besides Clemson, Bama, Georgia, and OSU), and it's a program ranking and PSU is one of the gods in that regard. Utah is like the picture of consistencyy in a place where we never expect it, I think thats why theyre up there. ND, I hate ND. I'm not playing devil's advocate for them lol.
@danielthibodeaux3874
@danielthibodeaux3874 Жыл бұрын
@@lvli044 Penn st and utah above lsu is a joke. Theres just no other way around it. I dont really get the points he was making either. Like does he truly believe utah and penn st are better postioned to have more success going forward? If so thats a awful take. If not why in the world are they ahead of lsu? Josh tried to be cute and outsmarted himself here
@lvli044
@lvli044 Жыл бұрын
@@danielthibodeaux3874 Utah is about not wanting to get burned again, but that's bc they've been reliable. They just win, and logic doesnt really say they should. Penn State tho, yeahh. LSU has had two 10-win seanons since 2014 iirc. Aside from the year that Ohio's Jesus showed up, they haven't been spectacular. Penn State is top 5 in NY6 wins in that span. 4 11-win seasons. Going forward, a 5-star QB who's supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread, 4 freshman all-americans, an o-line with experience, depth, a top-10 draft prospect. Like the 15-0 LSU was better than any Penn State team, but that's where the LSU advantages end, dude.
@johncouch2115
@johncouch2115 Жыл бұрын
Came to the comments section to complain that LSU was absent. Was not disappointed by the other comments
@marcdewain36
@marcdewain36 Жыл бұрын
This has got to be the Worst opinion on top 10 programs? You start of saying 5 years of work. Yet you put USC, UTAH, Penn, and barley Mich over LSU who’s won a title and a program that was in the top 4 playoffs last year? You are getting paid to advertise these programs.
@Greenstreet_Utes
@Greenstreet_Utes Жыл бұрын
Go Utes! From the MWC to a top 10 program in less than 20 years.
@nyckhewks8454
@nyckhewks8454 Жыл бұрын
How did ND’s head coach leave them for the better program that’s not on this list ? LSU
@reddeserted13
@reddeserted13 Жыл бұрын
My fellow Dawg fans know that fate is a cruel mistress, so were going to enjoy this run as long as it lasts 😊
@justinpeterson3686
@justinpeterson3686 Жыл бұрын
You can throw the cruel mistress thing out the window when you win two Natty's in a row but before these last two years yes.
@reddeserted13
@reddeserted13 Жыл бұрын
@@justinpeterson3686 I've been a fan since before 1980, so I know.
@crimsonkings205
@crimsonkings205 Жыл бұрын
@@justinpeterson3686 It’s could very well end quickly is the point.
@ohiohatescancer952
@ohiohatescancer952 Жыл бұрын
Utah was blowing Ohio state out until cam rising got injured too
@quentin6233
@quentin6233 Жыл бұрын
Bro stop it. They were not. Ohio State was down one score and the play he got hurt on was the play that they forced the punt. Ohio State scored on the very next possession and Rising doesn't play defense so had he not gotten hurt they still would have taken the lead. The goddamn game is all over the internet so why lie about.
@miriamcorbin1629
@miriamcorbin1629 Жыл бұрын
Our Kirby has done the best job as a first time head coach of anyone in the business. His fire never burns out!! Love my coach and I've been around since before Vince! Go Dawgs!❤
@ezrad3
@ezrad3 Жыл бұрын
1. Georgia/Bama 3. Ohio State 4. Clemson 5. OU I don't see another way to look at that. Am interested to see OU, Clemson, and USC in the future because some shuffling could happen there. But any top 5 that isn't those names I just struggle to take seriously.
@chrichri6793
@chrichri6793 Жыл бұрын
OU is trash and clemson is getting worse every year. Michigan is clearly 3 or 4. I don't think anyone would take your list seriously lol
@kevinchandler179
@kevinchandler179 Жыл бұрын
My Nittany Lions 🦁 are at least number 5!!!! Fact
@derekmiles2543
@derekmiles2543 Жыл бұрын
OU IS ABSOLUTELY GARBAGE
@MooseGoBlue
@MooseGoBlue Жыл бұрын
​@@kevinchandler179 You again 😂
@josephwhite8495
@josephwhite8495 Жыл бұрын
Bama doesn’t deserve to be #1! Just like last season they didn’t deserve to be ranked #1! Go Dawgs!!!
@kyletrammell7308
@kyletrammell7308 Жыл бұрын
LSU has had more success and better recruiting than half of these teams, Josh. In another video, you had LSU as the second best program the last 20 years behind Bama (obviously). ND hasn’t won anything and lost to Marshall, but just like every year ND is a top 10 team because reasons
@ether5716
@ether5716 Жыл бұрын
Lsu got lucky the stars aligned in 2019 outside of that yall are just a circus
@MyVisualRomance
@MyVisualRomance Жыл бұрын
@@ether5716 The circus always come back to town every year though and you gotta deal with the clowns always.
@happynotredamefan3736
@happynotredamefan3736 Жыл бұрын
9:00 I thought I was going to mad at you but you were fair with us. I think it depends on what you value I think Michigan should be below us since they haven’t won a bowl game but I understand recently Michigan been a little better.
@Gutslinger
@Gutslinger Жыл бұрын
If it's program ranking, I'm surprised you got OU way down at number 10.
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