Analyzing Tony Stark's Personality | Enneagram in Film

[@Josh_Keefe]

Type 4 is next.

[@s4rest123]

So excited for Tyoe 4.

[@miriamhodges5632]

Can't wait!!!

[@aubreezily13]

This type 4 is ready!🎉

[@ericjames7753]

needed it like today. can't wait

[@tofu3944]

If there isn't a 10 minute segment all about Jim Hawkins, I'm going to riot.

[@christopherbucher7017]

Strongly agreed. I never understood the argument for three, it never seemed to make any sense to me unless you look at him very superficially

[@vegetableturner9499]

I love how the video starts off with a very neutral tone, considering every argument for either 3 or 7, explaining patiently why type 7 would be more fitting and in the middle of the video just slaps you with: "You really think he's a type 3? This guy?!" xD

[@miriamhodges5632]

Clicked on this faster than you can say "I am Iron Man." Another fantastically engaging and informative video. You never disappoint.

[@jacindaellison3363]

Good point about Tony not receiving the award in his first movie. In The Greatest Showman, when PT Barnum goes with Jenny Lynd for her opera, he didn't need to be there. He wanted to go because he wanted to witness and relish in the praise she was getting for her singing b/c of his obsession with approval and acceptance of people b/c he signed her on to perform. That was one of the signs that Barnum is a 3.

[@fernwebber4829]

Agreed. I believe I’m a type 3w4, sp/so, so I don’t always identify with all the type 3 stereotypes - but even so, there is no universe in which I could receive a prestigious award and NOT want to be there to receive all the admiration in person :)

[@josph838]

Josh, I hope you've been doing ok man, I don't know where you went or if you'll come back, but I hope you make another video soon. I'm excited to see if you have anything else in store! 😁

[@brshmell0w1719]

Don't worry ya'll! He posted on his Instagram and said the type 4 video will be out next month!

[@aidancuell]

I hope he is taking it easy on himself

[@JohnGoober-nx2pt]

Is he ok?

[@edwinbeta2806]

😭😭😭

[@aki1latuer]

patiently waiting for the type 7 video

[@melindasue3335]

Please continue the Series, I really like it and it helps with Character Creation as well

[@bigyavenger9456]

I absolutely love this series, and I hope that you come back to it!

[@JasonJOu]

Hey! I just wanted to let you know that I loved all of your enneagram videos! It’s been a while since your last upload but I still look forward to the day the one’s for 4 drop. Your video quality has always been great so I don’t have any doubt this next one’s going to be fire! Keep doing what you’re doing I can’t wait 😊

[@fractaldisarray1518]

I am not super familiar with the Marvel movies but still this was super fun to watch! I just want to echo the voices that praise the work you do, and want to say how grateful I am that you've shared what you've already shared. I think you have such a good grasp, and are super good with putting it into video format, your editing is superb and the whole video is very engaging and easy to understand and follow, I can't imagine how much work that is! I know that life and all kinds of things can get in the way, so no pressure, and take your time, I just want to say I hope you plan on making more of the enneagram series, doesn't matter if they're not in order, and doesn't matter if they're 2 years apart each, honestly? they're well worth it! Above all else, I hope you're doing well, and I thank you for the knowledge and content you've already shared with us! (Also also, If you get to 5s I'd loove to see some examples that are beyond the typical "intellectual/genius", and more "Time and energy are limited resources and must be protected". Haha just because I'm a 5, but I don't feel particularly "intellectual" or think "emotions are overrated" or "being rational is paramount", I'm an artist and I love this world where you can lose yourself in any direction, the journey is endless. So I'm very curious if you've happened to see examples that might not be the typical 5 that first come to mind for most of us.)

[@Feed-Me-Lore]

He liked this comment! He's actually alive!

[@Hello4199-k9y]

@@Feed-Me-Lore Came here to say thank gosh he's alive. :D

[@DrAceGikmo]

I was literally judging the way you were describing his positive movement to 1 when you mentioned types actually going in both directions. Thanks for linking the video in the bio, I wasn't expecting my enneagram theory to be adjusted when clicking on this video :)

[@tofu3944]

So well broken down! Going to share this with my type 7 sister and type 1 brother-in-law who both love Avengers haha. Also, STUPIDLY excited for type 4!

[@francesca.pellegrino]

THANK YOU. EFFING THANK YOU. I could never understand people who say they are enneagram experts and classify him as a 3, because they are so superficial in their analysis.

[@otaviosantosdealbuquerque]

Im so excited for the rest of this series!! :) thank you for making these!

[@houston-coley]

HYPED FOR THAT ENNEAGRAM FOUR VIDEO

[@megmontoya]

I’m so proud of everything you have done and all the growth you have gone through! You’re doing amazing and I couldn’t be more proud❤️❤️❤️

[@warmersquid9108]

I’ve always seen people type him as 3 and I never took the time to figure out why that didn’t feel correct. In your type 1 video you said he was a 7 and everything clicked for me. This is super cool. Great video ^^

[@TravisD.Barrett]

You’re a human being, not a content machine. I’m glad you’ve had time to take off and grow, as KZbin videos aren’t the entirety of life. As long as KZbin is around and you’re posting, I’ll keep watching, no matter the time between videos! Thanks for making such thoughtful content! ❤

[@maximoffrush167]

i love this video so much! as a type 3 who was questioning whether i was 3 or 7, this video perfectly cured my questioning! and i love iron man

[@YouveGotaType]

If you want to keep learning about your types, I've got videos on all the types you've mentioned here: Type 7: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mp-ZYYacrc6Hd5o Type 3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6ikeYOIa9yWo9E

[@AncientHunter]

The quality of these videos is insane, seriously can't wait for the type 4 video. This is top tier KZbin content.

[@YouveGotaType]

If you want to keep learning about type 4s in the meantime, you can check out my in depth video here: Type 4: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGmrY2WFgcmKrbM

[@Lazuli_the_Blue]

If you ever get to Type 4’s I really want to see some good examples of self preservation type 4. This is mainly because It can be very confusing due to them looking like a 3, a 1, or even a 7 at times. They are usually called the “sunny 4’s’” for that reason and their main focus is “Tenacity” or “Endurance”. In my case I’m also a 4 with the self preservation type, although even I don’t fully know if that’s what I really am due to how I can easily look like a 1 at times.

[@YouveGotaType]

If you wanna check out some in depth descriptions on the differences between 1 & 4, I've got some videos for you here: Type 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn-3mmaBm7ONi6c Type 4: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGmrY2WFgcmKrbM

[@chillinjesus1013]

Yo! I didn’t know Simmons watches josh Keefe :D

[@WillEnd96]

Yep. It's practically impossible not to see Tony at his 5 and 1 spots. Definitely a 7.

[@kodiskreations4860]

Just discovered your channel, and I've been binging your videos! I absolutely love film analysis and writing, so these are right up my alley. I would love to see more analyses from you. You are doing amazing work! I hope you're doing well.

[@sihemuhneemotionproduction6411]

Josh is so 🐐ed I can’t wait for Type 9

[@lizayufereva1404]

Please finish the series!!! ❤

[@emmabaker8358]

Hey, I don't know if you're still making these, but I check in every once in a while just to see. If you ever do come back, know you have a captive audience.

[@lisalucero9166]

We need you Josh. Come back

[@tunemaiden]

This is fantastic. Your content is top-notch, and worth waiting for. Thank you!!

[@Ladonts]

Enneagram 4’s awkwardly waiting like 😬

[@jacques4379]

Yesss

[@jamesmiti145]

I've beeen protesting. He should've started with 4

[@Ladonts]

@@jamesmiti145 has he retired?

[@bellekyskeefe655]

It's wonderful to see how much you enjoy working on these videos. Great work💜

[@loganschainker6275]

I am really sad that your video on Silence got taken down. It was one of the best video essays I've ever seen.

[@crystalcleara.k.a.missyoko1430]

great video one of my favorite examples of a type 7 you get to see it play out in health high and low

[@isaiahvoss]

Because Tony Learns From His Mistakes.. wait he did ever since the first Iron Man to progress on his suit to care about his work while it proves he has a heart to high ideals. He maybe irresponsible but he sees the right thing to save the world many times. He doesn't have to hide is identity like other characters in the MCU but what he hides is the duality being Tony Stark or Iron Man but in the end he proved he can have a heart for the people and those he loves.

[@ichizygaming]

I absolutely love your enneargam videos! And as 7 I was extremely interested to see other examples of 7 characters in details. Great job and thank you for your content👏👏

[@brittneybrittneyxo]

amazing video 👏🏽 absolutely obsessed with the content you make!

[@Ineedpizzato]

so umm... when are we getting a new video

[@billiosgaming6959]

Please keep uploading My brother and i both love Mbti and Enneagrams and you make the best relatable content

[@Therohan8900]

Where is Type 4 man? I am hooked on to your videos like coke, and I need more. I need type 4

[@willywonka6948]

Amazing job, Josh! Looking forward for Enneagram Type 4 and Type 5. I'm a 5w4 and am excited to see if I can learn as much about myself as I did about types 1, 2, and 3. Keep it up! :)

[@YouveGotaType]

If you want to keep learning, I've got videos on all the types you've mentioned here: Type 4: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGmrY2WFgcmKrbM Type 5: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoTVlIFqotKti5I Type 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn-3mmaBm7ONi6c Type 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHjJo62wq7yYmKc Type 3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6ikeYOIa9yWo9E

[@mads7683]

I always get so excited when you upload! Interesting video, I love your enneagram based videos

[@andydiesel2807]

Hi, @Josh Keefe Still anticipating your videos and look forward to your return. A Happy New Year to you as well!

[@andrewhahn2364]

Look, I know this video is 2 years old and there's no chance of this ever being seen, but Tony Stark is neither a type 3 achiever NOR a type 7 enthusiast, he's a type 8 challenger (with a 7 wing, given), and his story is about type 8 growth. Hear me out. Yes, Stark's PORTRAYED motivation is that he is shirking responsibility in favor of seemingly hedonistic and frivolous pursuits or distractions, but the distractions themselves aren't actually the POINT of his behavior. Rather, the situations Tony is subconsciously choosing to place himself in, which have smaller stakes, and are much more comfortable and ultimately more CONTROLLABLE, are. Tony isn't afraid of responsibility itself, he's afraid of having a responsibility greater than his circle of influence and control. He's burdened by the Stark name which he fears he will never be able to truly live up to. However, externally, he doesn't demonstrate this fear via anxiety, if anything his self deceptive lie is that he is entirely confident in the face of all situations, to the point of arrogance. Rather, Stark is driven by a need to never be in a situation in which he is not in control (at first). Take for example the scenario provided in the video of him not showing up to the awards acceptance ceremony in favor of going to a casino to gamble. This COULD be explained as an avoidance of responsibility, but I think that rather, it is him choosing to avoid a situation where he would not have full control (an awards ceremony, where he subconsciously knows it isn't he that is truly receiving the award, but the residual greatness of his father), in favor of one that he is easily capable of controlling (being a handsome high roller with a smooth tongue at the highest stake roulette table, surrounded by beautiful women who won't challenge him as he's the man in that setting). A great example of this is when we see the vast array of prototypes Stark has created in the climactic battle of Iron Man 3. We are shown that he has developed a suit for every occasion, to a ridiculously specific degree (Hulk Buster, anyone?). Does this fit the description of someone who is looking for superficial distractions for his anxieties? Or does it rather speak to someone who has a deep fear of failing to rise to the occasion and handle the threats his very existence has created, now that he has publicly taken on the mantle of Iron Man, and thus publicly claimed the defense of the public as within his responsibility? Stark's arc isn't about choosing depth over superficiality and connection. It's about him letting go of his desperate need for control in order to support those he has come to love. This is shown first through his destroying the suits after the battle with the Mandarin to demonstrate commitment to Pepper. Later, it is shown when he counter to expectation (and VERY counter to a 7's motivation) he supports the Sokovia Accords because he has once again, through Ultron, (which is another great example of Stark's need for control come manifest, as he was seeking to create an AI capable of ENSURING stringent peace through control), created a situation out of his control which he fears will lead to harm for the public and his friends. And finally, when his desire to protect those he loves (a 2 desire, finalizing his move towards healthy integration) finally outweighs his need for control, he makes the ultimate sacrifice in endgame. All the love in the world for this channel, but as an 8 myself who has drawn lessons on how to be a better man through empathizing with Iron Man's story, I worry that trivializing his issues as "pleasure seeking avoidance of responsibility" may prevent others with my same core problems and pathology from seeing that his story is written for them. I hope any 8's out there seeing this video years later see this, and see what is really to be learned for Stark's story, if you're willing to look.

[@bonafide4874]

Love your videos on enneagrams, I swear I'll always watch one haha! Can't wait four type four!

[@Glorb1]

This man is the goat

[@mikeyfrederick1232]

Always great content sir...this was super interesting and inspired me to look up what particular psychological trap my personality has...and...damn....lol..that enneagram test read me to filth...just gotta say you deserve major credit for all the work put into the channel..it shows..

[@MissHussey84]

So good. As a the 7 I approve this video! And perhaps is one of the biggest reasons why Iron Man will always be my favorite superhero.

[@StarStrider99]

My man, this is beautiful! Great job.

[@Axolot2705]

You are an amazing video creator. I just watched your ennagram video and it is just *cheff kiss*. I am a guy who is experimenting with video creation and the level quality of the videos you make is what I want to achive. They are compat on poin amazingly edited and have realy good writing. After the ennagram video I went to your channel page and I realised you made couple of my favorite video essays.I hawe been watching you from the Christian movies are not good to the deconstraction of faith without realising I have been watching the same creator. Your work is amazing man I just want to tell you that maybe you see this.

[@jenniferdahlberg65]

These videos are genius! You marry my love of movies with my love of the enneagram! Thank you!

[@akaneve478]

I'm binging your videos and they're all so good!!!

[@ElianeEllyFuentes]

I don't mean any disrespect, but man does it suck to have to wait so long for the next in this series. I really want to see my type and the numbers that my type is connected to! But at this rate it's gonna take years to get to type 8!

[@M0rmagil]

Hope you’re not giving up! Love your stuff! ❤️

[@gamerchild9564]

We need more youtubers like u

[@godofsarcasm5893]

I am very interested in your jumps from unhealthy to healthy. Definitely a lens I appreciate, it gives perspective and makes it easier to approach this somewhat complicated tool

[@Bafter10]

Nailed it once again!! Nobody does enneagram better

[@themagicengineer5314]

Love your analysis of the character types. I feel you pay attention to aspects that seem to be overlooked in other videos. I hope you're continuing on with the series because I can't wait to see your perspective. And if you could use some help or someone to brainstorm with, just let me know and I'll do what I can

[@AE0N777]

The fact that Robert Downey jr is a 7 irl too just makes this even better

[@bruisesofburntbattles688]

Eagerly waiting for Type 4

[@kenobean]

I can't wait for the type 4 video

[@trebie5924]

His Josh, love ya content. Today is my birthday and I would love to get an update on how close we are to the next enneagram video.

[@josiahtaylor7967]

This is late but happy birthday stranger

[@trebie5924]

@@josiahtaylor7967 thank you!

[@josiahtaylor7967]

@@trebie5924 nppp

[@user-wb6qz4vv6p]

as a type 4 I was prepared to get exposed, but since Tony Stark is my favorite superhero I’ll settle

[@ingridsagers957]

We clicked on this sooo fast. WE LOVE YOUR VIDEOS

[@coconutcat1280]

Perfect timing, I just finished binging all 3 Iron Mans

[@jgg0207]

Can you re-upload your silence video essay?? It was fantastic!!

[@robbiemcarley]

Hey I really love your videos. please keep going so I can recommend them to everyone I know

[@AhmadAtta26]

Your videos are so informative, please make videos for the rest of the types

[@scarletmoon95]

I'm so in love with this series and you've given me the most clear theory of this than anything else I've read. This may be strange but I am very curious to know about two certain characters that are not very well known, but I'm not that great at typing them on my own. However i feel like the way the internet types them is not correct either. it's a more indie series that wasn't very well known which makes it harder. Hopefully by the time the series is finished i can tell the types of characters better!

[@scarletmoon95]

I wanted to mention that one of the characters is typed as four but i get the distinct feeling he is a nine! Since you are also a nine I'm excited to see if I am even remotely right 😂

[@SivaKumar-ey7in]

Type 4 plzzz.Waiting for nearly 2 years.

[@leroux-p]

Lets all like and share so Josh can get more money and make the rest of the types so my ocd can rest😂

[@ElMenaXY]

came here looking for the next video, but is not there yet! Come back josh!!

[@KafkaShoppe]

You should watch Only Lovers Left Alive! (I think) it is a really cool depiction of a four and a seven.

[@ryenwthomas]

Study his tritype and you’ll allow for both 3 and 7. My question is what’s his Gut type? I can see a case for 8 or 1. 378 would make him the classic Mover and Shaker tritype

[@husko6224]

Hey josh make more videos they are awesome

[@mickeymouse7726]

Iron Man is my favorite character and this was a really great video I liked it alot man

[@kuyashift6573]

Type 8. A type seven would prioritize fun experiences over perfecting inventions

[@foreverhobbes]

Hope everything is ok! Looking forward to type 4.

[@avajoysmith7434]

You never miss!!!

[@jonathanzink8451]

holy crap Josh this is amazing

[@cidunate]

I do love your vids like these, if i can make a suggestion, maybe more small vids like these if you have time or interest in them. like characters u like in movies and break them down. one i also see gets mistaken for a type 3 is thor on personality database. and i'm curious is to your thoughts on that.

[@tedarcher9120]

Type 5 pls next!

[@edmcsteve2156]

Honestly I bloody love 7s

[@mtg6792]

"You're not the only one burdened with knowledge" When knowing the fate of the world, Tony feels his responsibility is to confront it and stop it. Head-on. When he fails to find a solution, he tries again. Because the worst thing would be to know what's coming and do nothing. The only time that makes sense is when you personally are dying and can't deal with it. When he's trapped in a cave, he finds the way out by calming down and facing the problem head on. He is an 8 in growth. It seems like Tony drifts to 7 in stress or when trying to be social (i.e. spiraling into hedonism when dying, and giving Pepper the company when dying). He strives toward perfection because he wasn't good enough for his dad, engages in self deception, and punishes himself, then escapes through sensuality. His blissful unawareness seems like a portion of narcissism. Tony meets the criteria for NPD early on, and is forced to grow past himself throughout the series. Once he grows past himself, he still becomes sensual and fun in circumstances, but is confrontational to pursue higher goals in growth. I think he was in stress for the majority of film one, and introduced as a 7; however, a child prodigy who graduated super early and was likely socially restricted as a result? Someone who never learned the right way to engage socially but discovered he could use people's fascination with him to accomplish short term goals? I think Tony is a 5 who spends a great deal of time socializing through the lens of a 7 or 8, because otherwise he's really not socializing. When dealing with a discussion, he doesn't try to escape- he pushes for truth through confrontation. Realistically, Marvel did not consult the Enneagram when designing the characters, so none of them will really map on over time and there are going to be inconsistencies... But I would say he is a 5 trying to earn his father's approval (which is why he still looks like a 3 at times).

[@MeditateWithHiroki]

@JoshKeefeVideos Could you use Loki for the type four video? Especially with his healing arc in the Loki season 2 finale?

[@xanderjordan3543]

Cmon we all know he is a philanthropist, playboy millionaire

[@plootyluvsturtle9843]

unrelated but, did you have to take your video about Silence down? it was one of the best videos on youtube i’ve ever seen

[@shankariab1687]

Woww!!!! I just discovered enneagram today and binge watched videos to understand it! I fell in love with your way of explaining the types with movie characters.. with your soothing voice and music selection.. learning with fun combined.. loving it! And I'm waiting for type 4, because I think I'm a type 4... Love your work!! Thanks very much for your efforts ♥️♥️♥️

[@YouveGotaType]

If you want to keep learning, I've got videos on Type 4 here: Type 4: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGmrY2WFgcmKrbM

[@lauraklemm2206]

What a fun video! Thanks!

[@JamesTaylor117]

Agreed with you and loved the video all the way up until you got to Cap at the end. I think going to live a life with Peggy was completely contradictory to his personality. He had accepted that she was in his past and that he still had lots of responsibility not only to protect Earth but Bucky, who, although was freed from his super soldier conditioning by the Wakandans, certainly still had a lot of trauma to deal with. Cap never gave up on Bucky before and I don't believe he would have then. Other than that though, bravo

[@tutusketches]

Honestly his ‘acceptance’ was so clearly at a superficial level once she died in the present. cap never gave up on bucky, but was the one who saved him and his honour/title - bucky then finally had the chance to start to overcome his trauma in a healthy environment, and cap finally had the chance to do something for himself once given the opportunity! though perhaps now expected plot wise, it does make sense for his character uwu

[@JamesTaylor117]

@@tutusketches I dunno, I know we all wanted Cap to get that dance on some level, but I just don't think he would've ever made that decision himself. Too selfless. What a cutie

[@The_Grox]

I havent finish the video.. but i would guess that tony is 7w8 since thats the opposite of Steve Roger's 1w2 Usually people with the opposite enneagram tend to clash and thats what happened in Civil War and in The mid point of Avengers

[@Matheus-ho2qb]

C'mon man... has been 8 months, whe need some more!!!

[@Matheus-ho2qb]

😢

[@nicks4727]

Bro where'd you go?

[@twadd]

This is fire

[@aw9440]

Im losing hope that that there will be another video 😩 we miss you!

[@iamthisiam]

TOP FAVORITE ACTORS: 1. Denzel Washington 2. Jim Carrey 3. Robert Downey Jr. 4. Forest Whitaker 5. Johnny Depp

[@jngk24]

I love your videos!!!

[@Straend3r]

So long to wait until type 9... Great vid tho!

[@trebie5924]

Hey pal, I hope everything is going alright for you. Some friends got me into watching One Piece, it was a daunting task but I highly recommend it now. A character that I personally found really captivating is a minor antagonist named Bellamy. I think Bellamy is a very strong example of an unhealthy Type 6 and that his story might be very valuable to discuss once you reach the Type 6 video. I understand that One Piece is a series and not a film, so this might be an unreasonable suggestion.

[@annahuber1059]

How funny. Now I can see why the actor who played Tony Stark was then cast to play Sherlock Holmes.