This kick pedal technique feels like CHEATING... [Drum Lesson]

[@seanbrook3593]

If u had called this lesson 'master the Bonham foot triplets' u would get a heap more subs. Been watching ur stuff for a while and I don't know why u haven't got at least 50,000 subs, ur a great drummer and teacher. Just my opinion, good work 👍

[@MrRezRising]

Nah, he'd have been called out as bs, as JB never did a three stroke bass triplet. The first note is played with the hands, the two sixteenths after are bass notes. Our man here is teaching the real deal.

[@seanbrook3593]

@@MrRezRising yeah I know Bonzos triplets feet is 2 foot 1 hand, I was just pointing out if he used Bonham in the title he would get more views as is the popularity of Bonzo, and them views would get him more subs, coz he should have more, great player/teacher deserves it. I hear ya tho 👍

[@MrRezRising]

@@seanbrook3593 So sorry, hope I didn't sound like a d(ck. 🤠🤘🥁

[@julianlamb8489]

Actually REZ Bonzo yes did the double triple but also did the triple triple..this is common knowledge by the way

[@MrRezRising]

@@julianlamb8489 Oh, I'm sure there were a few authentic trips somewhere in there, but the famous lick that everyone commonly calls the JB 'bass triplet' is the lick he stole from The Ohio Players, and it simply is not a full three note bass trip. Take standard 4/4, loosen up the feel so it swings (12/8 feel), and do one hit with the hand - in LZ it was a cowbell but you can use anything - followed by two bass 16ths. I learned it from Dennis Chambers, and he learned it from the Ohio Players, with noted respect to JB for making it popular.

[@alexr.5888]

This is a great lesson. Glad I found it- probably one of the best lessons on technique/mechanics and gear set-up available on the web. I'm guilty of fighting my gear (and crap technique)- I can grind it out and generally get through high-tempo pieces leveraging my bad, stomping, beater-burying habits, but man- this lesson highlighted how bad/inefficient said habits actually are. That said, I'll still blame the pedal 75-85% of the time. Sincere thanks, Josh!

[@adamrosefire]

This man is the Socrates of drums.

[@thomaskleinhans2384]

Then have also a look at Austin Burcham

[@mariodiaz5872]

Master lesson mate, top notch

[@danykufner]

Great video man :) finally someone who talks real talk and about the importance of how you use your body and let it happen 🙌🙌

[@Cuzjudd]

Single pedal triple strokes, the bane of my existence

[@eltonester6531]

This was a great video Josh

[@mattbecker01]

Great video, Josh 👍🏽

[@zumb42]

A famous drummer was once asked what to do to increase the control on the bass drum pedal, and he recommended releasing the spring from the bracket and controlling the rebound.

[@davidcipolla4036]

Would that be Ed Soph? He made a very insightful vid (I believe it was for Evans along with a brush technique series) showing that releasing the spring from the pedal, using heel down & playing the footboard off the bass drum head with the rebound created from the stroke.

[@zumb42]

@@davidcipolla4036 Dennis Chambers said that..Just releasing the spring and go practice.

[@mikesmith1290]

Similar to practicing double strokes on a pillow.

[@mikesmith1290]

What I found works for me is setting the beater angle pretty far back, with light tension. I got the idea from watching a Dana Carry video where he talks about his settings. I feel like I have so much more control than the standard 45 degree beater angle

[@erictorres4889]

Your snare sounds awsome !!! I sit low because it’s more comfortable for me .

[@TruthAndMoreTruth]

you make it look so easy.

[@DrumGalaxy]

I just got a new Tama Speed Cobra a few days ago. Best pedal I've ever played! I've played the Pearl Eliminators - stock and with a modified longboard, DW 9000, Axis A longboards, Trick Dominator and a few other lower grade "simple" models. The Speed Cobra is by far the most versatile for many techniques hands down.

[@justhadrums]

I was just about to ask him if he recommends it. I'm thinking of getting one. I currently have an old yamaha and in the past have used pearls and dws mostly because they felt heavier then tried the old iron cobras and they felt too light and the yamahas seemed in the middle. Does the speed cobra have a medium feel would you say? Thanks

[@DrumGalaxy]

@@justhadrums Sounds about right. The things I like are the completely independent adjustments for footboard height and beater angle. Heel toe technique is so easy, not so on the DW9000. The round cam is just fine and my regular "toe doubles" are working great - not so easy with the Pearls, always felt good one day and not the next. The Speed Cobra has that speed return spring on the bottom under the footboard which is great. Surprisingly to me these do not feel like moving a truck. Smooth and easy in every way and I've never used a Tama pedal before. The longer board is a plus for me...for the heel toe technique...not my shoe size which is a 10. It's a great buy for $229 plus tax. Well worth it. The only thing I didn't care for was the beater that came with it. Seemed a bit heavy for me. I have just about every type of beater in my collection and I always gravitate back to the Pearl quad beater that comes with the Eliminators. I also changed out the chain for a strap. Took off a few grams. Hope this helps you out. I say pull the trigger! LOL

[@justhadrums]

@@DrumGalaxy Cool, one thing I noticed too if you put the footboard high and the beater back like I prefer, the foot board doesnt hit the cam when the beater comes back like on a newer dw and a few other pedals.

[@DrumGalaxy]

@@justhadrums Indeed! That's a new one for me!

[@bgnPrinceton]

@@DrumGalaxy So you basically have a Franken Cobra. :D What strap did you use for this pedal, and was it a simple swap?

[@radoslavradosevic4586]

I have also speed cobra ,u didnt say about cam measure on speed cobra ,i like to move litle right or forward for stronger punch...

[@Ritzchen]

Yo josh, great channel and great content. Watch out with this technique: I used to play like that for ages, but I wasn't able to play more than 3 or 4 consecutive notes since I was SO used to lower my leg to the end of the phrase (and since you depend on lowering the foot you have limited space). It took me 2 years to really unlearn this technique and learn a pure ankle motion. What I'm trying to say: I think it's important to learn the ankle technique first (or at the same time) and when you feel safe doing it you can always incorporate hybrid techniques like the one demonstrated. What do you think? Cheers from Germany.

[@JoshMerhar]

Thanks for the input! I think it depends on the context of what you're playing. I wouldn't use this technique for double kick or a continuous steady rhythm. This technique isn't the right tool for every job, but it's certainly a way to get multiple strokes without too much effort.

[@mattlonproctor7221]

I understand the height tension and the spring of the beater makes a difference but what about the spring between the kick plate and the floor plate on the kick pedal ?

[@bgnPrinceton]

My opinion....the Cobra Coil has very little effect on the feel of the pedal compared to the factors mentioned here. I think it was just Tama trying to be 'innovative", but in reality it's a weak spring with little effect. It has 2 or 3 positions, so move it and see if it makes a difference for you. Better yet, have someone else move it (or not move it) so you can 'blindly' evaluate any differences.

[@DrumGalaxy]

@@bgnPrinceton Just my 2 cents but it does have an influence but only slightly. If you have a "heavy foot" you probably won't feel it as much. The degree to which it will have an influence will also depend on your preferences for footboard height and beater distance from the drum head. The farther the footboard goes down the more it will compress the spring, which has about a 3 inch adjustment slot towards the front or towards the rear of the footboard. Still love this pedal. I've wasted my money on all the others.

[@ddrummer1821]

tons of flamming between snare, hats with the kick when trying to using this "technique" is it supposed to be all sloppy like that??