Recreating 60s TARDIS Model Sequences

[@JoshSnares]

CORRECTION: the saucer in Dalek Invasion of Earth had two wires on either sides, not from the bottom.

[@midnightmoonwolf7306]

Josh Snares good Job

[@TheKandyman]

Just a quick question, will you ever finish your Abominable Snowmen reconstruction? I've started to get into the reconstructions lately and would love to watch your version of Abominable to experience for the first time.

[@JoshSnares]

@@TheKandyman Not finishing it, it'll probably be animated officially one day, and I'd rather watch that!

[@TheKandyman]

@@JoshSnares Ah ok, I'll probably watch your Episodes then loose Cannon's for 5 and 6. I'm about to start The Daleks Masterplan for the first time and I'm really looking forward to it, I'll try and find your reconstructions for it

[@davidaston5773]

Why is Josh NOT doing a show DVD documentary for the BBC? He has a passion and a great way of making the viewer feel that passion. This episode and other effects/restorstion/tech ones are fascinating. He's taken it to a new level. Not a fan but a future success in the media and effects industry. His magic wand has unlimited spells of talent 🥳

[@djtimelords7731]

Good idea

[@DanTheMan2150AD]

Can’t wait for Josh to start recreating all the Missing Episodes like this.

[@NPS2204]

60’s Who effects will always have it’s charm and looks better than some 70’s Who effects.

[@QueenStodge]

60s Who has some great effects. It's just got that campy science fiction b- movie charm that serves it really well. You've done an amazing job with it

[@marcse7en]

Back in the late eighties, I created a starfield in my bedroom, similar to Josh's (fairy lights don't work, as stars are not in strings). Black card, perforated, with light bulbs behind it. I had a rotating planet (a ball), and flew a spaceship through space, made from the inside of a toilet cistern! Do you know what? It didn't look too bad! Unfortunately, the VHS footage is long gone! Unless it turns up like a lost episode?

[@jacobcurle8964]

Check Nigeria, there might be some copies there

[@DayOldMeat]

@@jacobcurle8964 Or the basement of a cult.

[@Ravendarkwytch]

Welcome back Josh, we’ve missed you

[@theneonchimpchannel9095]

The model shots turned out great. Something I learnt from the Red Dwarf DVDs is that they would shoot the model shots on those super speed cameras, so when played back at regular speed, everything appeared to move more like it would in space. You can get the same basic effect using slow motion effects. In regards to the speaker holes, would you be able to get a sticker or something that could cover it?

[@DayOldMeat]

I've managed to fill in the screw hole on mine with miliput, but the speaker is trickier.

[@dalekinthewater4708]

I got some wood style card and painted over it to cover the speaker holes

[@blobfish5730]

I always enjoy videos about 60s Doctor Who and its special effects. It's by far the most underappreciated era of the show and it's my favourite.

[@paulfranklin7161]

Great stuff! Watching Doctor Who in the 70s as a kid is what got me first interested in VFX and models - the hands on nature of the show encourages experimentation like this. I ended up making a career out of it!

[@PaulTaylor1]

Nice one. I've never forgotten seeing that episode of Swap Shop in about 1976 where they showed how the Tardis was filmed, exactly the way you did it.

[@robalexander8065]

Excellent work as always, Josh!

[@dalekinthewater4708]

There's this place in the UK called Forbidden Planet which sells all sorts of Harry potter, Star Wars and Anime but they sell Doctor Who incredibly cheap. Recon Dalek on Amazon is £18. FP is £9 13th TARDIS on Amazon is £25. FP is £18

[@jodefawud1520]

Great video as always, love the way these vlogs cheer me up. Thanks Josh 👍

[@DCSMedia]

Brilliant video Josh. Very creative

[@shortangel333]

Okay but everyone else likes seeing the TARDIS going through space, I prefer seeing it be destroyed, Yes, the Mind Robber is *one of* my favourite serials.

[@joansmith69]

Yes, that scene. I also like the TARDIS being blown up. Nothing else about that scene. Nothing at all.

[@brianartillery]

You'd probably both enjoy the story 'Frontios' then.

[@DayOldMeat]

To be fair, the plot in The Mind Robber is very engaging.

[@shortangel333]

@@DayOldMeat I would love a modern take on that story.

[@shortangel333]

@@brianartillery Ooooh! That was one of my first Old Who stories.

[@verdiguy]

Lovely to see you back on You Tube Josh. I have the same TARDIS and chuckled when I saw the speaker holes on the back of it as it was rotating through space. It's a splendid recreation of an age when Doctor Who was a fun, far less serious show for kids and their families.

[@D4dodge]

Nice to see a new Dr Who video - nobody does it better!

[@jwentertainment2313]

In the previous scene a Dalek poked a bunch holes in the Tardis. 😂 Nice Video.

[@fantasiamedia]

IT WAS A PLEASURE WATCHING YOU WORK

[@therestorationofdrwho1865]

The tardis toys annoy me in that they have the stupid speaker holes and battery compartment. I’m sure someone savvy enough could make a really nice accurate tardis model to the one they used.

[@rattybarnett]

*ahem* ever heard of PBprops?

[@dalekinthewater4708]

@@rattybarnett I have!

[@paulh4473]

“I wanted a natural glow”... “with thousands of luminous spheres” props to anyone who gets this reference.

[@MSharif3D]

That was a perfect resemblence in those TARDIS shots! Nice job!

[@Timothan]

love your work, pls don't ever stop making cool doctor who stuff

[@serveaux]

Great content Josh, it's awesome to see your creative process!

[@alicec1533]

Josh, your content is so cool! It's consistently evident that these are products of passion! Love it!

[@michaelclark3174]

That's so cool! I love the light on the side replicating a sun! Great idea!

[@brianartillery]

Great video! I love those TARDIS models - the late Troughton era one you use here is possibly my favourite - but every time a new one appears, I get depressed. Why? Easy. Those damn holes. I can't let them lie. I have to fill them with model putty, sand it all down, scribe the wood pattern back in, then mix paint of the right colour - and there is no particular shade of 'TARDIS Blue' - they're all different, and then weather it to match. You can take these TARDISes apart, but they are tough beasties, and, unless you are 100% sure of what you are doing, I wouldn't recommend it (PB Props has a video on this, if you are interested). I have to do this - I know they are there, even if I can't see them.

[@The_Sober_One_LCM]

60s Dr. Who had better model work than Star Trek: The Original Series imo, especially considering the variety in the model shots for Dr Who in comparison to Star Trek.

[@LadeeRin89]

Great recreation Josh!

[@tonythepostman]

Brilliant as usual

[@DoctorWhoAdventures]

Ayyy!! This is spectacular!! :D I absolutely adore 60s Doctor Who for this very reason! It's pure genius (especially the filming the spaceship scenes upside down and how they made the title sequence) :o Awesome video!! :)

[@davidaston5773]

Yeah it's amazing how old effects before/ after 60s DW are more alive and credible than many modern ones?

[@DoctorWhoAdventures]

@@davidaston5773 Yeah I agree!! I enjoy the simplicity and often find it more magical than the more realistic effects :D

[@davidaston5773]

@@DoctorWhoAdventures CGI has the problem of the viewer knowing before they even experience it that it's not real and how it was made wasn't through reality. Ie the real world not in a computer so you can feel or move it? Silent stop motion films have a sense of PHYSICAL truth. Know what I mean?

[@DoctorWhoAdventures]

@@davidaston5773 Yeah totally! I think the movie industry will eventually move backwards if I'm honest (especially with Lockdown and needing new inventive ways of making films) :)

[@davidaston5773]

@@DoctorWhoAdventures Exactly! The industry has been over stretched and had its ass kicked by new tech and social media. Plus, it's become greedy, lost its class and edge.

[@johngoode3509]

It's Ruth flying in this TARDIS. Connon!

[@MondasProductions]

Welcome back! I love models and animatronic animals in films and this has now made me want to do this now

[@banana_man_101]

3:36 Maybe you could make an excuse like "someone shot the TARDIS when it was leaving" or something like that

[@sdaly4627]

You should definitely have a go at the fury from the deep opening shot with the tardis landing on the water, that would be amazing. So great you’ve uploaded again!!

[@casselsjoe]

Lovely stuff. I'd really like to see some remounted model work from missing episodes!

[@Onnyji]

Still praying for a video on scripts you wish came true for classic who

[@the_flyattractor8656]

Back in the good old days when Magic was created by Tape and String and a Healthy Imagination!

[@TimothySamJolly]

Just had to get that DMP comment in there... Outstanding!

[@Poliss95]

As I recall from the info text the strings were attached to the sides of the ship on DIOE. The Ark in Space and Revenge of the Cidermen, sorry, I mean Cybermen used pea lights attached to black drapes as a star field. :-) Oh, I see you corrected where the wires were attached in your comment.

[@Fonegraph]

Very cool Josh! You'll be giving Mike Tucker & The Model Unit a run for their money soon enough, small acorns etc. Can we expect your rendition of the planet Tigus sometime in the future? Cheers

[@WhatHandlesAreAvailable]

2:07 GENIUS

[@hothemeep1219]

YOU BACK !!!

[@sixstanger00]

3:14 This looks ideal for a modern title sequence done entirely in-camera. The BBC really should try a more practical approach. The modern title sequences look flashy, but they don't age well at all; the Eccelston/Tennant vortexes look like bad CGI nowadays.

[@jaimesandoval1941]

I just found your channel and i can’t wait to watch all of your videos!

[@toastybeans9909]

They have a certain look that makes me enjoy it even more.

[@davidbanan.]

WE ARE BORING PEOPLE, I MEAN COMMON WE ENJOY 60'S WHO THAT WAS SLOW AF

[@matthewduncan8523]

Wdym, 60s is the best era

[@ShamrockParticle]

Wasn't thought of as slow at the time. Okay, in ways and at times they were slow but it's just a matter of how they allowed scenes to breathe or to stretch them using characters or dialogue (or not...). The less that feels like padding is all the better. Today's shows conversely are arguably the opposite problem, being too fast for their own good. Either way if it hooks and maintains interest, it doesn't necessarily matter as much.

[@lapelcelery42]

@@matthewduncan8523 From Hartnell until Sarah Jane leaves. That's the golden age. They seem to have been headed back that way with Sylv and Soph, but the axe was waiting.

[@animateangus]

Tiny bit of filler in those speaker holes and then acrylic paint to match the rest should do the trick.

[@markinsley3709]

Josh I love your content so much. I find stuff on your channel which is so specific that I feel like it's almost catered directly to my specific interests within Doctor Who! This video is no exception. (I also really love your Making Of missing episodes series). Your channel always brings me great joy. Thank for making this great content! Cheers! Mark x

[@darthknight1]

So much fun! You should definitely do more and document it.

[@marcse7en]

I have a solution to RECOVER ALL 97 MISSING EPISODES ...... All we need to do is travel away from Earth FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT. We can then catch up with the original 60s TV broadcasts, whizzing through space, and RECORD THEM AGAIN! 👍

[@SolitaryWolf]

Great job! In the late 80'sI used to to this type of effects with my still camera set for double exposure and take a photo of my TARDIS model and then go outside for the large shot. The effect came out great with the TARDIS looking like it was fading in/out.

[@johnshoepack]

The way your Tardis is made, it looks like the Tardis got shot at one point.

[@robbiefl2001]

I think the biggest shortcomings of this sequence were 1) the TARDIS was bouncing all over the place and 2) it was spinning too fast. To counteract 1) a rail with which you could attach the string and TARDIS to above the view of the camera would help make it more fluid when moving across the camera, and simply making the TARDIS spin less when moving it across would definitely have made it more authentic looking

[@WordTweak]

Time ram two police boxes next time, haha.

[@ohmydinosare]

this is super cool. And weirdly, that colour 16:9 shot with the light in frame has an oddly late 80s look to it, I could imagine that in a trial episode or mccoy. I have that tardis model, it's a nice one.

[@theneonchimpchannel9095]

You've also done a great job of recreating David Bowie's 1983 hairstyle. EDIT: Well it looked like it from the front lol.

[@thelandofthebears8170]

This was really good could you do some of this for the 70s and 80s era's

[@portland-182]

Great stuff! Loving it. Suggestions? Block the holes with blue plasticine (you can get rid of it later). Do try the string from the bottom. Shoot at a higher frame rate, and playback at a normal rate (slow mo) it will even out the wobbles a bit. More stars. Tardis noises.

[@ovenbakedpizza9357]

60s Were the best of Doctor Who in my opinion

[@richevans3157]

Nice to see you back Josh! missed you the last few weeks. Love the model work. Had ago myelf alongtime ago but was bad! lol. I think in some Tardis Shots they had a wire on the top like you did but also had a wire underneath weighted to stop the box from wobbling so much! As Always keep up the good work and keeping us all Sane!

[@ksaunders4362]

Gay Rights! :-) You really are awfully clever, Josh. I always look forward to your videos. I would absolutely watch you do model sequences from missing episodes if it took your fancy to make them.

[@craigix]

Josh needs to either be the next doctor or be on the production team or both.

[@Daldi564]

Gotta say, good job with the TARDIS. And yes, those speaker holes in your TARDIS toy are annoying. I would know cuz I have the same one. That said, to all the other model film makers out there, I recommend using different sized TARDIS models. It would allow for smaller scale filming whilst getting across that same kind of feel that we got from this video. Another thing, let's say you wanted to recreate the Time Vortex from the new series but didn't have the CGI budget the Mill had. Well, if you attached a bunch of LEDs to an electrical fan, you could potentially recreate that sort of swirling effect from the T Davies era.

[@MissTomi]

Once again, phenomenal work! It would be cool if they did this instead of CGI for the special editions

[@McEdam]

This looks like a lot of fun

[@KarlWitsman]

A worthy experiment! Thanks!

[@thinkgeektheory1085]

Great video ....looks like a lot of fun ...maybe might get inspired myself to do something like this in the future

[@TempusWare]

Awesome video. It'd be really interesting if they brought back miniature model sequences for new episodes. CGI is probably cheaper, easier and makes better looking results though.

[@JoshSnares]

They do use models sometimes on the new series! Day of the Doctor used dalek models, and so did Into The Dalek :)

[@TempusWare]

@@JoshSnares Oh wow, I didn't know that! That's awesome. Lots more respect to them for doing that.

[@DCSMedia]

@@TempusWare also in Time of the Doctor, they used 12 inch Dalek models for some of the scenes on Trenzalore

[@JRP90]

Cool experiment Josh, thanks for sharing! :)

[@hidden_inabox]

Soooo, were you able to make that deal with Titan Comics?

[@lyndseythomas115]

Josh, I have always been fascinated by model sequence. Wether it be Quatermass and the pit or out of the unknown or even doctor who. There is something fascinating about exploding objects moving through the air. One of my favourite things to do model effects with is a UFO from earth vs the flying saucers. But anyway your videos are some of the best on KZbin. It seems lockdown has bought out the best in us.

[@edith2002100]

Another lovely video to make my day

[@whovisionsCGI]

Cut a thin piece of colour matched card and stick over that perferated panel. That should help the illusion. I agree that is annoyance. I guess they must have used the same mould for one that does have sound fx. I remember building a Tardis out of cardboard as a child. It looked really good for distant shots. Just like Matt Irvins Troughton model, it eventually somehow vanished... I hadnt even installed a dimensional stabaliser circuit! 😜

[@aliinlondon]

Groovy :) Many thanks dude

[@RetroActiveGM]

This is some quality content here Josh, as always. I prefer model shots over CGI so this is chad stuff. I probably would have used one of those new TARDIS models they put out alongside the new action figures. Would have no speaker holes, but I'm not sure if the scale would be right?

[@PoliceboxNet1963]

Great video, Josh.

[@tc-2000]

Didn't the BBC use 16mm rather than the crazy expensive 35mm? Also, love the photos of Ian Scoones with the Tardis. He was a VFX Wizard, considering what he had to work with. Do you know Blake's 7? That's the other huge 70/80s Scifi show the BBC did, with almost everyone from Doctor Who working on it at some time. Scoones did some awesome work with the Liberator at Bray Studios, helped in lighting the models with the guy who did the VFX for Alien (can't remember his name). But that show had so many amazing practical model shots, in particular the regularly used Liberator Beauty shots and the Scorpio in the Xenon Base. Amazing stuff on a BBC Budget. But love that whole era of VFX work, wish I could have been working on that back then.

[@JoshSnares]

They did most of their location work on 16mm, their effect and prerecorded were generally 35mm It’s a lovely photo, one of my favourites!

[@jmcdonald.1998]

This was awesome!

[@simes0161]

Enjoyed that, as always :) Thanks :)

[@paulkelly9803]

great work. you could also trying slowing down the replay so that the model does not bobble like the light model that it is.

[@just_a_carl]

Very neat! Thanks!

[@Fuuntag]

With a touch of post to make this shot appear as being played back from film or a TV broadcast this would maybe even pass muster as a shot from the 60s. I think this would be “allowed” given you are “constrained” by shooting & broadcasting digitally.

[@ShamrockParticle]

Looks pretty sweet! I remember early 70s effects with the TARDIS wobbling g slightly. Early 80s had TARDIS movement very still (e.g. Full Circle). I wonder if they affixed something on the bottom as well as from the top and pulled on both simultaneously to eliminate the wobble? Sadly, those 80s fx were on video using Quantel and in ways look more dated :(. Yet they still have a charm since they were pushing the newest technology at the time and that's when it looked the best, bar none.

[@deltathetastudios2776]

I think that replacing the original model shots with new model shots would be best, even if it's just for the TARDIS

[@hearsejr]

Hey, where did you find a tiny TARDIS? I want one for my full size TARDIS.

[@JoshSnares]

It was a Character Options 2 pack with the third doctor, maybe? Or another doctor? Came out a year or two ago

[@hearsejr]

@@JoshSnares kewl. I have to search EBAY on payday... Maybe I can find one here in the U.S... thanks.

[@quoctran9921]

Great video! Nice work

[@cameronyoungcg9270]

Actually I think the model sequences in the 60s were better than some of those in the 70s and 80s (see Logopolis Part 4 and when the TARDIS first lands in Spearhead from Space Part 1. I'm yet to see one from the 60s that looks as unconvincing. Alright, I haven't watched all that many classic episodes but I have seen many clips. Also, your recreation was really nice.

[@princecharon]

To be fair, if the crew in the 1960s were in a hurry, they might have had someone rush out and get a toy for a miniature shot, so it's really not that bad. On another note, have you ever thought of (or already done, as I haven't seen all your vids yet) redoing the miniature puppet sequences from Invasion of the Dinosaurs? You'd probably do better than the company the BBC hired for it (who went out of business just after).

[@DoctorRedivivus]

Interesting and entertaining in equal measure :-)

[@definitely_notme4112]

Nice! Missing the vortex sound tho

[@tonyparker7349]

Quite impressive

[@kamsel79]

Nicely done :)

[@SpringtrapLover2010]

Wooo!!!!! a new video

[@revspikejonez]

You. Are. Awesome.

[@Squicx]

Why aren't you hired yet!?

[@nelsonunit7000]

Just an idea josh, you want to get your hands on one of those black curtains that have fairy lights stitched in, that working men's clubs have up on the stage for saturday nights when the club turns on (after the Bingo)! I bet loads of them have shut down after coronovirus and their floggjng all the assetts off, you mjght bag one on ebay? (Along with a bingo machine with pingppongng balls in).....how 60's would that be?

[@daniledrake4137]

Great Fun.

[@portaldevice5110]

It does look very similar to the original models shots.