Anime Healers VS MMO Healers

The world of anime healers is full of dainty, shy young girls who just want to help and make everyone feel good and happy and be friends with everyone.
MMO healers are sick of you standing in the red and are THIS close to just doing the rest of the raid by themselves. You're only alive because they want you alive.
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[@BlueShellshock]

Anime healer: “violence is scary!” MMO raid healer: “I can’t heal stupid.” PvP healer: *sigh* “Ze healing leaves little time for ze hurting.”

[@yesno1085]

Next step after making support become dps

[@chaptereight3406]

PvP healers outhealing DPS

[@rustkarl]

“Zere’s nothing wrong with playing God, so long as you’re good at it.”

[@theinfinium3247]

​ze healing iz not as rewarding as ze hurting!

[@VoidsEye]

i feel like pvp is honestly kinda the same as MMO but they are either depressed, or tired of it... like they are still saying the same things but they are a parent who hasn't slept in 4 days talking to their child who just made a bomb in the backyard, while the MMO is someone working at a big company and they are the only one who is actually competent and they are pissed.

[@rs_mind8352]

Anime Healer: “I just want everyone to be safe!” MMO Healer: “I control who lives or dies. Do not test me.”

[@JM-mh1pp]

- Healer sucks! - Brave words before big pull...

[@Ryan-ts3py]

Been a healer in MMOs for almost a decade. This is 100% correct. My favorite phrase whenever someone comes up with a dumb idea is: "All I have to do to kill you all is nothing."

[@plattbagarn]

Laughs in FFXIV Warrior.

[@letsrank9349]

Being a Soraka main in Wildrift. If I get the sass they get ripped ass.

[@stankobarabata2406]

@@Ryan-ts3py Man Healer mains are fucking Tyrants lmao. But then, I've played World of Warcraft and League of Legends for.... God knows how long now. Close to a decade and a half. I understand why Healers are like that - it's like wrangling a bunch of apes. As a DPS/Tank main I always try to move along with ya and not make you guys angry cause I'm not waiting in a que for another bloody 15 minutes lmao.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

Anime healer: I need to help everybody I can! MMO healer: *I control who lives. Be hopeful it's you.*

[@ikosaheadrom]

Redo of healer: allow me to introduce myself.

[@Mirage-pz]

​​​@@ikosaheadromthats a sht one. It just a wannabe desperate revenge h*ntai pulling off MMO terms but clueless what it is like feminist writing comic books of existing titles

[@chevvvv]

I love being the healer because I get to decide who lives and dies

[@greenstarlover1]

​@@chevvvvwho tells the story~

[@Jawsomest]

@@chevvvv Until the enemy decides the healer dies first, in which case, you'll best hope you kept that tank alive!

[@DaddyVeo1911]

Anime healer: **a nun with miracles** MMO Healer: **a war cleric with healing spells.**

[@KoeSeer]

isn't that how Paladin in WoW was came to be? A group of priest taking up arms and trade their blessing spells with holy smite.

[@DaddyVeo1911]

@@KoeSeer I wouldn't really know, didn't get into WoW.

[@KoeSeer]

@@DaddyVeo1911 well, it's more like warcraft lore. but yeah, paladin were used to be priests that taking up arms because the war with orcs went so bad.

[@marie-camilleschaap2708]

A 'sassy' war cleric with healing spells you mean

[@Kayem237]

@@KoeSeer Turalyon was the only one of the 5 original paladins that was a priest, the other four, like Uther, were particularly pious knights. Though as the Knights of the Silver Hand grew, paladins came from both groups.

[@acehealer4212]

I like to think at least a few healer players start out as “anime healers,” full of hope and a desire to support others, only to get slowly corrupted by the experience of playing with real people.

[@borealernadelwald]

I always start as "anime healer" in every new group, haha. I definitely want to keep my party alive an well and do my best, but if the party keeps being stupid I turn into the MMO healer... And I guess after healing a lot of dungeons the MMO healer comes out quicker and quicker. Too. Much. Stupid! Dodging and not standing in red circles seems to be really difficult.. 😒

[@hanneskarlbom6644]

@@borealernadelwald Tell me, once had a party who got mad I didn't keep them alive meanwhile they run around like headless chickens in opposit directions and AWAY from me and out of range only to get one hit ko'ed by the big red aoe.

[@kelmirosue3251]

I started off as that "Anime Healer" and then turned into a "Pull more! I wanna be healing damnit!". If tank doesn't pull more enemies I pull more for them. The video of "Tanks being masochists and healers being a sadist" is basically me XD

[@loyalsausages]

Change that to ALL healer players, and I'd say you're pretty much spot on ;)

[@Pottan23]

Corrupted? We are created by it. In the baptism of fire that is wall to wall pulling tanks that can't mitigate we are forged. Struck again and again against the unyielding thick skulls of the DPS we are made hard. In a never ending stream of vitriol the useless parts of us is stripped away until only calculating, emotionless, perfection remain. We will keep you from dying, only because doing so hasten our own progress

[@chiefpurrfect8389]

As someone who mains healers, "I can't out-heal stupidity" is going to be my new mantra, thank you very much.

[@nitsude]

my personal favourite when my teammates talk smack "You do realise i'm the one who decides who lives and who dies, right?"

[@ianesgrecia8568]

Try 'I can't esuna stupid' in a FF MMO game.

[@roguebanshee]

It's a slight variation of of the pre-WoW version: "I can't cure stupidity" Anyone who has tried to play a support class has had to deal with teams that thought they were invincible just because they finally managed to get a "healer" to join (even if said "healer" didn't have a single healing ability for their class).

[@prieston]

My experienced (PvP focused) healer friend: "Go into a red thing. I'm bored." "Pull the whole dungeon at once. You will die for sure but I have a feeling we won't wipe." "I finished my personal achievement and healed you back from exactly 1 health. Your screen was red because of it." "It's kinda boring in here so let's BM. I'm gonna get out of the safety, run into this crowd of enemy players, knock them all away and then RP walk back."

[@josejuanandrade4439]

As a wow player for 17 years and being a main raid healer since TBC and until Cata, "I can't heal stupid" was my mantra, and i'd spoke that phrase in every raid and dungeon pretty much. In fact i just had to remind a tank in a timewalking run about it when he tried to pull the whole dungeon and got comicaly murdered alone while everyone else stood back and let him commit suicide. He left in shame...

[@NumPad]

I had a friend in my DnD group play a Cleric with an MMO mindset. She was hilarious. "If you're still able to call for healing, you don't need it." "My magic can fix a lot of things. Stupidity isn't one of them." "Have you tried DODGING?" "I'm not healing you because I like you, I'm healing you because it's my job." "You guys have the survival instincts of a baked potato."

[@Go_away__]

Sounds like the most annoying type of person to play DnD with.

[@NumPad]

@@Go_away__ She was a total sweetheart; we knew how to separate real life from the game. Plus her character arc involved learning how to deal with her anger issues and allowing herself to show affection. She sort of succeeded by the end. Went from overtly toxic to generally grumpy, but in an endearing way.

[@Go_away__]

@@NumPad sounds like autism

[@DragonKnightJin]

Huh. My first campaign character was a Death Cleric who only ever prepared 2 healing spells for day-to-day use. Healing Word (for when someone went down), and Revivify. He was an old soldier, and would much rather use his magic capabilities on making sure everything *stopped trying to kill his allies* rather than trying to outheal the incoming damage. His Healing Word was litererally "On your feet, soldier!" And he felt his job was to get his allies to leave an encounter under their own power. Anything beyond that: "Drink a potion or walk it off." At one point, the Warlock (Blade pact, with a tendency to go down in a fight) got told "On your feet, soldier!" and decided to call back "You know I don't like being told what to do, [Cleric]". To which my Cleric simply replied "Then stop taking naps when there's fighting to be done."

[@julitoxcastro8983]

@@DragonKnightJin That Cleric sounds badass. I like it

[@normalclown]

Anime healer: "For the sake of my friends, I must keep them alive!" MMO healer: "For the sake of my drops... and my sanity... they have to learn how to stay alive."

[@DahnsHeart]

Anime healer : "Oh no ! You made a mistake ! Quick, I must try to save you !" MMO healer : "Whoops, rogue pulled. Guess who's not getting any heals."

[@brendanj6272]

"Tank, I will not go by your ridiculous pace. Slow down or die."

[@venerable_nelson]

@@brendanj6272 I have the opposite problem. Tank isn't moving fast enough, so healer runs ahead to tag some mobs. Tank doesn't like this, so tank doesn't take aggo. Healer dies to (heal) aggro because tank played the "only tanks should pull aggro" card. Healer plays the "I'm not out of mana, I just don't like you" card. "I'm not out of mana, I just don't like you" card > "only tanks should pull aggro" card DPS suffers...

[@iraqiwalker1436]

I've had times where I let a player die because it was easier to rez them than keep them alive on account of all the vulnerability stacks they picked up.

[@notno3585]

@@venerable_nelson remember folks we go at healers pace not tanks

[@AlexofZippo]

Look, if the squishy DPS WANT to die, then I respect their choice. Their stupid, stupid choice.

[@livgaines6441]

"raising that guy is a DPS loss" is definitely something i have said while healing.

[@nerdychocobo]

lmao that's amazing XD

[@MsLilly200]

Tbh I've felt that. Instead of wasting mana constantly rezzing and healing a godawful dps that don't know their skills and never learned to avoid fire, I can just attack in my offtime when I'm not healing the tank and good dps and the boss'll probably take more damage overall.

[@plushysheep]

we have a famous wow video in Germany in which the healer states "The way you play rezzing you is more mana-efficient than healing."

[@Eisendrache2]

@@plushysheep Whats the videos Title? I'm german and never heard of it

[@AlexofZippo]

If I raise them, their just gonna eat another AOE and die again. Not worth the MP.

[@kaylynnanson6231]

My husband was the cleric for a DnD campaign and received lots of flack for it throughout. The campaign culminated in killing a dragon. Then he uttered this phrase to the GM: "I revive the dragon." He succeeded, getting two nat 20s in a row, and decimated the party with his revived dragon.

[@Kevin-fj5oe]

Your husband woke up that day and choose violence

[@redacted144]

@@Kevin-fj5oe more like violence chose him, and he answered the call.

[@GLoLChibs]

Legend

[@suicune2001]

LMAO! OMG! That's amazing. XD

[@LordTyph]

I bet he then revived the party after that, now that hey had learned their lesson. ...And kept hte dragon, of course.

[@danielskrivan6921]

One of my favorites was in WotLK, our GM says, "Look at the top guilds, their healers are doing half of what our healers are doing. So why are we dying?" My response: "You can only heal damage taken, which means we're taking three times the damage they are."

[@rory8182]

based

[@whitenekos]

Good ol chain heal with potential HoT popping.

[@ayo2851]

Damnn aint no way leader coming back from that one 💀

[@5M173Y]

i dont know what WotLK stands for so im just gonna assume its called World of the Lion King and its probably a really good game lmao

[@danielskrivan6921]

Wrath of the Lich King. @@5M173Y

[@ScarlettHasToast]

My healing style in MMOs has gone from “oh no, you’re below 100% lemme fix that.” To “is your hp above zero? You’re fine.”

[@robinschmalbrock5357]

There is only one important hp: the last one.

[@shikikankillzone4239]

You're literally the Medic dozer from Payday 2, lmao. *"GOOD NEWS, FREE HEALTHCARE! BAD NEWS, I'M YOUR DOCTOR!"* *"BITCH DOWN! WE GOT A BITCH DOWN HERE"* *"DOCTOR SAYS; GET THE FUCK UP"* *"CRY ABOUT IT LATER!"* *"THOSE CLOWNS ARE LAUGHING AT YOU"* *"ALMOST STEPPED ON YOU DOWN THERE"* *"YOU'D NEVER GUESS I WENT TO MED SCHOOL, CUZ I DIDN'T!"*

[@UnknownOps]

Most of the type it goes like. I can only heal people, not revive them, can’t out-heal their death and stupidity. PLAY YOUR FUCKING ROLES, Can’t heal you while I’m out controlling the enemy now Can I? Oh God, I am the one carrying this whole team, no wonder we are losing. Relax, your health is above 50%, quit whining and help me take them on already.

[@129das]

Healers only have so much mana

[@spartandud3]

WoW healing: Must keep everyone's HP as high as possible. FF14 healing: If they're above 0 that's good enough.

[@introverse7926]

fun story: in one of my first dungeons as a healer, people were trash talking me because apparently I wasn't able to outheal something that wasn't meant to be healed, but dodged. I then let them die, and soloed the boss. After that day, my god complex was fully developed.

[@Olivia-W]

"Oh, you're all dead. Well, guess I'm soloing this then." Yeeeeep.

[@none-of-your-busi-ness]

And then everyone clapped and made you guildmaster after giving you a million dollars

[@cursedhfy3558]

@@none-of-your-busi-ness only if only.

[@callukcraft]

i had the same but as a tank , everyone died and soloed the rest of the boss.

[@aliasv6964]

@@callukcraft Right?! FFXIV 2.0 launch Warrior could solo bosses thru self heals. It was fucking glorious for a few months. No idea what it is like now though.

[@BoundingBeast]

My first MMO was Star Wars Galaxies. I played a Creature Handler/Combat Medic. I absolutely used my "drag corpse" ability to position dead people under nice, shady trees with the instruction "now sit here and think about why you're dead". 😂

[@DaWhiteWolffie]

LOL

[@Rock-up_Goblins]

Bruh treating them like children XD

[@theultimatepielord8697]

@@Rock-up_Goblins Such is the life of a healer

[@FizzieWebb]

Not as much of an mmo, but I play a Well of Radiance/Healing grenade/phoenix protocol Dawnblade Destiny 2, and I will frequently watch blueberries in strikes do stupid shit, like run away from my healing grenades, and then use the "Humbug" emote at their Ghost when they die. it results in the messages "Galvantula disagrees with X" appearing in the chatlog.

[@ogrogordo6084]

every MMO healer needs this ability.

[@AnonymousHamster]

"When I'm not healing, I'm out DPSing you" is a quote every healer feels in their bones. I only fill healer as/when needed and even I felt that.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

I try fulfil that when I can’t find my team or they just got steamrolled. Blutsauger and Crusader’s Crossbow can only do so much though.

[@rayhatesu]

No lie, this is me to a person I used to raid with, though he also plays healer and tries to be a "Green DPS" (as it's called in FFXIV, "Green Damage Dealer" for other games) with the exception that my version tends to be "Not only am I outDPSing you when I'm not healing, I'm healing better for my job than you are for yours! How do you have three more years of role experience in raids and get your ass beat by *me?!?*"

[@asierx7047]

​​@@Aaa-vp6ugthat's where the bonesaw comes in Gotta love that 100% crit chance

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

@@asierx7047 yeah… try using that when your range is beaten out by fists

[@paulsd9255]

When the Nestor refits lasers in place of remote armor repairers That or its drone bonus makes its heavy drones out-DPS the sandbags in fleet

[@lukiapotato8526]

As a DPS, I can confirm: getting trash talked by the healer is just part of the job. Nod and don't let them down, soldier.

[@Kreidian]

honestly as a DPS main I just assume that the healer hates me already and will never heal me, ever. I find I stay alive more that way, after all Dead DPS is 0 DPS and hey, if the healer is actually nice and heals me that's a nice bonus

[@linkinparkrulezzz1]

@@Kreidian every one gets the right to be healed by me until they prove they aren't worth the mana.

[@alecjones8286]

@@linkinparkrulezzz1 In other words "if you're in the red your staying dead"

[@BoogerLeader]

@@linkinparkrulezzz1 Yes, this is exactly me in every MMO. You're all family until you prove you can't follow simple instructions.

[@BattleSpew]

I mained a regen scrapper in City of Heroes. I made healers cry.

[@luluMusicGamesMovies]

The comedy potential of an anime healer with the MMO healer personality is too good for us mere mortals

[@ghostofkyiv2481]

Now I can just imagine an anime about a healer slowly developing a god complex after saving their parties ass too many times.

[@jellomaster5629]

@@ghostofkyiv2481 Yeah the only anime about a healer with a god complex... uhh... is in an anime where he rapes someone in some way every episode.

[@ghostofkyiv2481]

@@jellomaster5629 That shit was fucked up for all the wrong reasons.

[@AchaOda]

Grimgar is an anime with a healer competent and close in personality to the MMO healer tbh

[@reperfan4]

The closest I've seen is in a show called Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash. The show does that thing where it tries to put a realistic spin on how things would go in an "actual" MMO world. The main group starts with an "anime healer" who treats every hit everyone takes right away with magic. Eventually this results in [spoilers] and they need to find a replacement healer, who instead has a "realistic" mentality of "healing magic is only for emergencies" leading them to have moments where they say things like "it's just a scrape, I'm not wasting a heal on that, walk it off" or where they wait til after a fight and treat wounds with bandages and first aid rather than healing spells. They even drop stuff like "you don't want to get hurt, then dodge the hits instead of making me waste healing on you" IIRC.

[@n0vitski]

I remember the most impressive thing I saw in a MMORPG was when I met some party that fought a world boss. They had a healer with them, who didn't do anything, was just sitting on the ground waiting. When the party wiped, he lazily stood up, cast a mass ress, reviving everyone and then sat back down. It honestly looked like he was saying "there you go, you useless bloody bastards, now finish the job".

[@NaoyaYami]

Now that's an inspiring encounter. The character writes itself: powerful healer that was really invested in actually healing his teammates in the past, but after dozens of wipes they just became numb to it and realized futility of delaying an inevitable and just apathetically mass-rezzes everyone since it's still technically their job. Cue in a fateful encounter with some kind of positive-energy hero(ine) that sets of the healers arc about learning to properly care for their teammates again.

[@n0vitski]

@@NaoyaYami I mean, yeah, although in reality it was likely someone's second account brought in specifically in case of a raid wipe, and he was doing nothing in order not to aggro the boss.They did have a normal healer with them.

[@MooglesGamingCorner]

That sounds like Necromancy to me. 😂

[@xaleypoo4779]

@@MooglesGamingCornerIf you think about it, necromancers are just late healers.

[@MooglesGamingCorner]

@xaleypoo4779 I don't have to. I know it's true. 😅

[@franconunez925]

I always tought that Mercy is a healer in the eyes of someone who never touched the role while Medic is the animal spirit of anyone who spent 100+ hours in the role over any game.

[@selenaautufuga7597]

You clearly have not met Mercy mains. Those people with a good 8k plus average healing per game? Amateurs, the lot of them. You haven't seen a Mercy until they have an equal amount of DPS to their healing which has gone above 10k minimum, 20 plus kills, and twice as may assists. THey exist, they are terrifying. The average DPS Mercy run for me has about 5k in DMG and Heal each, that is to say, half that of a dedicated Mercy main, I came to the conclusion that either I suck at the game (very real possibility), or there is something wrong with healers.

[@monochromatic9601]

@@selenaautufuga7597 I don't play OW but I imagine being in the role of healer for so long has driven them insane. Source: I used to play the healer role near exclusively because I was the only one competent enough to do so and death was an insult to my very being.

[@bostafu]

The mmo healer fits ow support way too easily 😂

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

@@monochromatic9601 BREAKING NEWS: EX-DOCTOR TOO INSULTED TO DIE

[@rustkarl]

Did zat sting? *sooooorry*

[@Balloonbot]

Anime healer: "3 episodes to heal an injured party member" MMO Healer: "You now have 4x your HP bar in shields, regen, and 15% damage reduction. Imma do some DPS now"

[@korimiller379]

Healer: "There, you're healed, shielded and damage buffed. I better not hear a /damn/ thing from you for the next 90 seconds."

[@imSephirot89]

You now have 4x your HP bar in shields, regen and damage red... How are you dead again?

[@justalexk1553]

ah yes every single hfb druid and for some reason chrono in my raid party in one phrase

[@ryanweible9090]

@@imSephirot89 dragoon, jumped right off the side....

[@janovrom]

And that's why as a perfect tank when I see that healers are not struggling, I'll switch druid forms or unequip some stuff. It's more fun if the bar is wildly going up and down.

[@Firewalkerbg]

You see, when you're the only healer in the party and everyone seems to want to tell you how to play your class.. People die.

[@thegamesforreal1673]

"I am the one who decides who lives and who dies, do not test me."

[@ArlosPA]

I never was a Healer main but I always played a healer twink to understand their skills and way of playing. this caused me in one game to just stand in front of the priest so he can use his big heal on me which has just a range of 5m. As a DPS. Never as a tank. I'm not that stupid. Also in that game everyone had scrolls with a 20min CD I think that could rez 1 person. The decision everyone did (except in some easy dungeons) "oh you're not the healer? no scroll for you."

[@gabrielschultz7717]

DnD cleric's existing

[@Ayuuwah]

@@ArlosPA hmmmm sounds like tera

[@ArlosPA]

@@Ayuuwah it was.

[@rexroyulada6267]

"Oh, you're all dead. I guess I'm soloing this" Hits extra hard when you've managed to get into one of 'those' parties and just give up healing others to heal yourself, deal more dps, and/or both.

[@maliticus7474]

Two manning the heigan dance in Naxxramus with just a tank and healer while everyone else is dead playing bejeweled...

[@river7874]

"Oh? You need healing? Are you the Tank? No? Then SHUT UP." As a Tank Main, this warmed my heart.

[@AegisAuras]

“Stand in the red, you’re dead.” and “Can’t out-heal stupid.” are actual phrases we’d use in ESO.

[@MyVanir]

But stand in fire, dps higher.

[@plushiesaurp2068]

I was looking for someone from eso in these comments xD 100% agree

[@AegisAuras]

@@plushiesaurp2068 I remember this one instance when I had just recently leveled and equipped my first healer and took them into vet dungeons. There was this DPS who would stand directly in this triple overlapping red the boss spawned. He would camp it until the boss changed phases. Even the tank would roll out of those AoE. After dumping my entire magicka pool into saving that guy, twice, he finally died and then flamed me in chat. When I revived him he was so distracted by typing that he forgot to dodge and got killed again. I revived him again. After the fight I looked up a guide to that dungeon and found out that no one is supposed to stand in that AoE. It’s not a heal check; you’re literally supposed to dodge it. Even the tank is supposed to dodge it. That experience was one that slowly started converting me from an anime healer to an mmo healer.

[@Ivan_Hoh]

ESO Player here, which dungeon was it?

[@AegisAuras]

@@Ivan_Hoh it was years ago but I think it was fungle grotto, the last fight with the witch that teleports and makes expanding red circles when she does.

[@kenridlycan6790]

"You are all sacks of hit points, and I am God!" This line is so perfect.

[@momobun.]

My favorite line.

[@funnygaming2672]

this line apply to black mage too

[@Fyreflier]

I immediately came looking for a comment like this

[@Nutellla]

Never forget that

[@mightydusknoir2649]

TF2 Medic in a nutshell

[@jordanwhite352]

Fun Fact: If you merge together both personalities you get a real life EMT.

[@schm1596]

As a real-life medic, can confirm.

[@Masitu0031]

Ah, combination of a) innocent, idealistic choice to help people and b) jaded medical who see people get hurt, sick, or dying in daily basis.

[@marianocolsin8968]

You forgot the part when everyone is about to die, she gets the power of friendship and fully heals the entire party plus giving the an absurd temporal bonus, then she faints and never uses that power again

[@tbeth]

Anime Healers: Everything he said spans over 15 episodes + recap episode MMO Healers: Everything he said happens within 15 minutes

[@Fluffy_pantz123]

If you're lucky 15 minutes, usually half that happens in less than 5 minutes, and the remaining 10 is running back and explaining what went wrong

[@Lucian_Andries]

LoL, true.

[@tysej4]

I don't know, I think a healer can explain the entire parties stupidity individually for each member in 15 seconds if he or she's rage typing hard enough.

[@zarthemad8386]

5 mins... or 1 wipe for the MMO

[@haroerhaktak2613]

15 minutes?! how long do you think boss fights are?

[@johnnygraz4712]

"I can't out-heal stupidity". You owe me a keyboard.

[@zuezue6275]

Omg yessss I’m normally a priest, though I like duel wielding class too more just because I love the idea of two swords and occasionally play it, but priest be clutch, yet everyone thinks a priest should be able to heal them and buff them while them, and others, are all being reckless X,D an I can still solo it myself but takes ALOT LONGER, as long as they boss doesn’t have a 1 hit auto k.o. attack, some ppl shouldn’t judge unless the have a max of every type of class tbh, cus for all they know the other player could be putting in more effort and your the one not paying attention to the bam mechanics

[@muhschaf]

@@zuezue6275 of what game you talking about? in WoW there is nearly no way you can solo a M0 Dungeon as a holy, and even Tanks are Hard pressed on most. some dungeons are even technical not soloable due to certain mechanics that are MADE in a way you can't solo them,

[@Kaldin0203]

@@muhschaf 9 months late...but they say "BAM", so I'd guess it's TERA, with it's "Big Ass Monsters", aka BAMs.

[@Avaruusmurkku]

Literally said this once when I was playing healer and trying to outheal some serious area DMG when two guys decided they didn't want to move from the big red circle.

[@danpitzer765]

@@muhschaf Depends on the game. Some games, it turns out that because they want healers to 'contribute to DPS' but still heal, they set it up so that it's just a war of attrition against the enemy if a healer is doing it solo. A war that the healer /will/ win, if they don't faceplant into an instakill, because the heals are cooldown, not actually limited resource.

[@sethleoric2598]

This is why Medic imo has one of the best personalities of any healer character in fiction. Other media make them kind, compassionate, sweet, sometimes moral compass of the group but Medic legit stole his own teammates' souls, made deals with the devil, and keeps a guy's head alive in a fridge.

[@lordshennington2756]

Also inserted baboon uteruses inside an entire team.

[@Airin258]

As mmo healer main this sounds about right Or at least i'd love to do it like this

[@memelurd7341]

The Garden warfare healers deal more dps than the assault classes.

[@theblueberrypi6152]

I like the reference

[@clashaccount8737]

@@memelurd7341 They gave the sunflower a better stationary death ray that the DPS's version and turned the scientist into a high speed flanking assassin. Now those were fun healers.

[@jm7781]

As a healer I can say "I cant heal through the wall, can I?" Is a frase that transcends media. This video works both for MMO and hero-shooter.

[@ingonyama70]

Also D&D tables, even with ranged Cure Wounds spellls some things are unfixable

[@josephhalbohn8100]

New healers: "oh god I hope I don't mess up and ruin everyone's fun" Experienced healers: "I hold the power of life and death in my hand and you WILL bow" Veteran healers: "I can't esuna stupid" *continues dpsing*

[@fwoompdotexe5225]

this is terribly accurate

[@AusFirewing]

"How low can you go! How low can you go!"

[@lynxace1602]

braindead dragoon killing himself within first 5 seconds of Ramuh Extreme for the 2nd time in a row? stand on his corpse, keep everyone else alive and out dps him to show dominance - me, earlier today

[@CatOnACell]

@@lynxace1602 rescue is the best spell in that case. it can increase your dragoon summon for up to 3 additional attack charges. however summoning your Chocobo is always preferred in non-instanced cases where cliffs are involved.

[@lynxace1602]

@@CatOnACell that Dragoon kept dying for nearly every mechanic in the fight. we tried the fight 20 times over and he died more than anyone else. I just considered him a liability and focused on keeping other people alive

[@ArtificiallyIdiotic]

As a healer main, the "when I'm not healing I am out-dpsing you" is so accurate

[@StellaTheKitsuneWatches]

FF14 problems when a DPS is doing poorly, which is hard usually.

[@hudosjdicicidi]

ESO whenever I am over 30% of team damage. When I am doing more than one of the two dps with only 2 damage-utility abilities then thats a problem.

[@MacoAndrews]

@@StellaTheKitsuneWatches wow's holy priests, it's so sad to see that you are out dpsing people...

[@StellaTheKitsuneWatches]

@@MacoAndrews Has happened quite a fair amount of times, when I've been worrying more on mitigations and dodging reds as a tank than damage, yet get higher numbers. I don't bring it up unless we wipe, and do it privately to try to specifically streamline their cycles as I also know every DPS class, for the sake of passing together, not harassing folks.

[@MacoAndrews]

@@StellaTheKitsuneWatches i'll snap only on dps palladins with aggro aura on, u dont need to worry

[@daboi6509]

As a healer I can confirm, “the healing is less rewarding than the hurting”

[@Tinandel]

Conversely, I have to grudgingly admit that on the incredibly rare occasion that you’re healing for a REALLY good team… you have shockingly little to do.

[@renkalan8587]

Actually, you have one thing to do. DPS.

[@SoulHero7]

In the immortal words of JoCat: What do you do when the party's full health?~ What do you do when the party's full health?~ Or even halfway up and standing~ DPS THE BAD GUYS!!!~

[@Stolanis]

Although I had a lot of fun playing FFXIV, I also had an incredibly disheartening moment when playing healer for a good party. I was playing White Mage, the most vanilla of vanilla healing classes in the game, because I naturally tend to play support characters and wanted an easy class to learn while I was still new to the game. Got to the end of a dungeon with a rando party, fought the boss. I died halfway through the fight and no-one could rez me. I thought 'oh crap, we're gonna wipe now cuz I messed up and everyone's gonna be mad at me'. The party just fought on and cleared the boss completely without my help, cuz they knew what they were doing. And then, because this is FFXIV whose playerbase I would describe as 'aggressively nice', everyone still commended me before leaving. As grateful as I was to be carried by veteran players, it also made me feel *incredibly* useless to know that my healing was just an optional extra that they didn't really need. After that I started reading a whole bunch of meta articles and found out, yeah, not only does a good party not really need a dedicated support, but the support class I was playing, White Mage, was considered to be the worst out of ALL supports because healing and rezzing is the ONLY utility it brings to the table (as opposed to shields, mitigation, damage buffs, all that jazz). So, naturally, I went to the exact opposite extreme and started playing Black Mage, the very definition of the 'stand in the fire DPS higher' class. I don't know if any healer in fiction has ever become so disheartened that they straight-up fell to the darkness and swapped out ALL their healing spells for damage ones, but that was my character arc in a nutshell.

[@Jordan-Ramses]

I solo healed a 10 man raid with a really good group. It wasn't hard but I wasn't bored.

[@SirFailure]

​@@StolanisA used-to-be healer, who lost their team, realized their futility and uselessness. In hopelessness and self-loath, they shed all their blessing for the power of the dark. Now, they vow, from here and then no one shall experience the same thing as them, ever, again.

[@marsholi5532]

Our role as healers is to watch our team make dumb decisions and delay the inevitable consequences

[@rogthepirate4593]

Delay? If some DPS is too lazy to move out of an AoE, that is decidedly not my problem. Chances are he'll learn the lesson after dying like that for the 15th time in a row.

[@Zephyr-Queen]

​@@rogthepirate4593*gives a regen* that'll heal you if you stop taking damage

[@daikigamess]

@@rogthepirate4593 jokes on you, thinking that any damage dealer can learn his lesson and stop 1 v 5 the enemy

[@rogthepirate4593]

@@daikigamess I mean, if he doesn't that's fine by me too. Chances are his DPS were dragging the group down anyway. Just let him lie there.

[@chasestewart8419]

lmao fr, Ive always been a healer in games. i just love playing the role. It kinda of like being in that one movie where a guy jumps into dangerous situations to save people. He was also a pacifist tho

[@cooperkellis2659]

"The rogue can stay dead, its better for everyone" as someone who used to be a healer in WoW I feel this

[@derbuhn]

As a rogue main I am sad :(

[@Mokiefraggle]

As someone who knew one of those sorts of Rogues (there's reasons why our guild dubbed him our designated "floor tank"!), I sympathize with any healer who dealt with this.

[@nemaele]

*Rogue main sadness intensifies*

[@theanomaly3463]

As someone who still plays WoW. I feel this

[@MichiCommander]

+1 to WoW rogue main sadness.

[@Ramschat]

"You exist, because we allow it" - Sovereign, a MMO healer

[@AssassinLex]

Almost spit out my drink XD

[@Aitvo]

This is very accurate to my style, just missed out on "I'm not a healer to heal you, I'm a healer to heal myself and watch people I dislike die"

[@adjwindu70]

This happened last night. I was dps. The the tank kept standing in a dot ice area AFTER it was mentioned to avoid it. After his 2nd death on the 2nd boss attempt, the healer left him dead. The healer, the other dps and I fought the boss to 10% before we wiped. The 3rd time we faced the boss, the tank avoided the dot area and the healer kept him healed. I swear healers are part trainers.

[@nikki607]

*mostly trainers

[@AlexofZippo]

Realizing you fucked up so bad the healer’s done with your shit is a real good learning opportunity

[@Hxnnibe3]

When i play healer in overwatch, i dont carry the team by healing. I carry by denying them heals until they start playing with the team and stop solo diving lmao

[@meanderthelost6029]

Carrot or stick?

[@salvadortoscano2534]

@@Hxnnibe3 I was a DPS/healer in Overwatch... probably more healer, though. I just walked away when my team kept being stupid. I played Ana, I'll be safely killing enemies long after you're dead xD

[@vanphoenix676]

Everybody :" yay , that was a great dungeon, so fun ! Let's do it again!" Me as a healer panting :" I want to choke all of you with my own 2 hands" Happens both in Wow and HoTS

[@valkyrie-randgris]

Happens if you've EVER been the healer tbqh. Either way you'll want to choke all the non-healers with your own two hands, or, quite possibly, you'll want to choke out the healer AND the folk making their job harder with your own two hands.

[@Drasendant]

Had a tank in FFxiv that wtw without telling me beforehand, had to have the melee dps pretend to be tank for some minute while the tank decided to go back to tHE BEGINNING OF THE DUNGEON and run back to where we were instead of taking the swift casted rez I gave him. Please ask your healer if they are comfortable with wtw in that dungeon, creates less stress. Oh and make sure you have ALL the monsters attention, OK!?

[@Medbread]

​@Drasendant as a tank main in FFXIV, I always wall to wall in dungeons I know I can get through with a decent healer. If the pull requires the healer or me to clench their butt, I tend to break it up into 2 pulls. Example, Copperbell Mines = Wall to wall OK That one part in Dzemael Darkhold with the exploding crystals = Take it slow I don't ask the healer, but if the healer tells me to slow down or speed up, then I do.

[@Drasendant]

@@Medbread Could you tell me how you handle tanking in higher lv dungeons like in Endwalker? I had a not so satisfying run last night where I struggled to keep the tank alive though mobs and they died at two different pulls and the whole team went down in one of those pulls....

[@Medbread]

@Drasendant Endwalker dungeons aren't particularly harder than earlier expansions. In fact, they kind of limit the amount of pulls you can make compared to ARR, by making each wall-to-wall shorter. The only one I've ever been close to wiping on is Smileton, but even then it wasn't that hard. All I can say is, the tank might not have been utilizing their mitigations properly. Maybe they weren't using Arm's length as mitigation, or sprinting before pulls for the full 20 second sprint so they don't get hit during the wall-to-wall, or they might have been trying to stack mitigations (which is a bad idea unless you're REALLY going to die because the mitigation cuts get exponentially smaller the more mits you stack, though at that point you should just pop your invulnerability skill) and then having none or very few left for the next pull. Or they might have just not even been pressing all of their mits at all. Or, their gear might have been underleveled. Or your group might have been doing sub par DPS, leading to more damage taken overall due to the enemies surviving longer.

[@VoroTheHyena]

A friend of mine, with whom I play a lot of Guild Wars 2, sent me this video and wrote to me: “The second one is you”

[@GeorgeCowsert]

My favorite healer archetype is the one that just hangs near dungeon entrances and makes bank off of the parties that go in, almost die, then come crawling out with a whimper. Bonus points if they go in and collect the bodies for their necromancer friend.

[@zeehero7280]

"When I'm not healing I'm out dpsing you" Every decent FFXIV healer vs every awful dps.

[@keiichimorisato98]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILLY!!!!

[@rayhatesu]

Sages right now: "Goddamnit, now I'm outDPSing you *while* healing, you guys really need to get good."

[@BoredDan7]

@@keiichimorisato98 I don't know, now that I can weave, lilies are feeling more and more like a downtime ability. This message is brought to you by your local glare mage.

[@magus104]

no no no...... FFXIV is the super friendly non toxic mmo. This is purely from the wow healer perspective because wow is the toxic game

[@zeehero7280]

@@magus104 They wont say it out loud, so they're not being toxic!

[@deathtrooper199]

Anime healers: *Wants to help everyone with the power of friendship* MMO healer: *Considered themselves god and literally sick of your shit*

[@royceblack6752]

The MMO perspective would make up for a good anime though :D

[@Vohasiiv]

@@royceblack6752 there is an anime where the main character is a healer with a god complex

[@royceblack6752]

@@Vohasiiv what is it called?

[@LU-37]

@@royceblack6752 redo of healer

[@inkparchment7560]

@@LU-37 why would you subject someone for the torture of watching that garbage

[@Forty2de]

Imagine if they swapped places. The anime healer gets put in an environment where everyone says it's the healer's fault, and the MMO healer goes on an isekai adventure in anime land

[@benrex7775]

There are some animes and mangas which play with that healer role. Just to mention two: _Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash_ and _The Wrong Way To Use Healing Magic_

[@ArgentumFox]

"I can't wait to go to your funeral knowing I could have prevented that outcome" fits perfectly here.

[@postmodernguava9518]

FF14 had a character who acted like a typical anime healer. Her party abused her so much she eventually snapped and tried to kill them all to raise as zombies.

[@diersteinjulien6773]

good old Edda Pureheart, I guess?

[@rayhatesu]

I mean, half right. Her issue was more that she was I'll suited to healing to begin with and yet her fiance, who was their tank, insisted she keep trying anyway, which lead to his death. After that the party disbanded, with their Archer joining our org only to eat it in the post-Titan story, meanwhile the mage went to work in Ul'dah until he got the bizarre marriage invite that leads us to the next part of the story in which the Archer was raised, the mage was nearly killed, and a voidsent tried to trick her into manifesting it as her fiance. And then the two parts to PotD happen to round out her story.

[@rayhatesu]

And yes, that *was* the most spoiler-free way I could put that while it should still be completely understandable.

[@stark_ita]

#eddadidnothingwrong

@@rayhatesu oh I don't understand anything of that xD

[@prinzezzqtpi5437]

I ended up picking "Healer" because I was too scared to face enemies directly, and I figured it would matter less when I inevitably failed. On my journey I learned that I wasn't a nobody supporting real heroes, I was the last line of defense against defeat. I had the power to completely turn the situation around and make a seemingly inevitable loss into a hard-won victory. You have a lot of power that your team relies on, yes, but only when you have a team to rely on. The difference between a good healer and a great healer is defeating the ego and focusing on the goal: Get everyone through this in one piece, so everyone can see the good end together.

[@tirsden]

Or watch the monk tank (who clearly can't play a monk tank but just queued as tank to get in dungeons faster) pull the entire hallway of ogres *and* the boss at the end who AoE fears.

[@thorgrin7680]

i played Archeage for years, and if you dont know what that is its an mmo where you can basically do whatever you want. I played a templar, which is pretty much a tanky healer. Whenever i went into raids or dungeons I would literally stand still and soak dmg while my party was never getting anything. they were just in the state of "hope i dont die lolz"

[@dirtburger2773]

OOOOR be the Legendary Has An Ego And Backs It Up With Godlike Skill

[@reginyra8401]

They thought that DPS were the carries in a game... Turns out it's the supports carrying the DPS XD

[@powpowouchy5]

Which game

[@decimation9780]

I occasionally play healer in FPS games, and I can confidently say that if you ever play a healer, no matter what game, don’t expect your team to be useful, and assume they’ll start acting like chickens with their heads cut off. That way when they use their brains, you won’t be as disappointed as you would otherwise when you expected them to make smart decisions from the jump.

[@joshuagreen5613]

About describes me playing a medic squad in enlisted

[@decimation9780]

@@joshuagreen5613 Don’t you just love being exposed to just how inept people truly are when you’re the one responsible for keeping them alive?

[@joshuagreen5613]

@@decimation9780 yep The stupidity of some is so high, it should be a superpower: once saw someone who flipped their tank on a flat field. Like how tf do you manage that!?

[@dylanbasstica8316]

I always had a lot of fun playing medic in the battlefield series, it was a treat when I played solo with a terrible team that stayed in one area trying to defend it, it was also very immersive NGL, stoping in the chaos to actually see what all the randoms around you are doing and living within that chaos finding the perfect cover while the braindead blueberries get mowed down and my points skyrocket, endgame k/d 0 and 12, first place on the losing team😂

[@decimation9780]

@@joshuagreen5613 That’s probably more the fault of the game rather than the player. Take a look at Arma. Sometimes, your tank might just decide to fling itself several meters away, for absolutely no reason. That’s not the fault of the player, and you can't justifiably put blame on the player if something like that occurs without any user input.

[@kirbyfreakyt4695]

When I play as a healer it's usually a combination of the two. "I love all of you and I want you to succeed, so I BEG you to actually use your brains and your weapons. I want to uppercut you with all of my might right now, but I know we can do this if you ACTUALLY WORK WITH ME."

[@dantenotavailable]

Everytime i hear about healers and "people standing in the red" it makes me think of one of the best features of the original Secret World (unfortunately they decided to remove it for the re-release). To get into raids you had to qualify. You could qualify as any of Tank/Heal or DPS. I watched a friend do the healer track and the fight was such that you couldn't beat the challenge without keeping the NPCs alive... NPCs that would actively run and stand in the middle of the fire. My friend failed the first time because we were too busy laughing at how accurate a raid simulator it was.

[@kempolar9768]

Now that is brilliant.

[@tarael86]

FF14 has those too, at lvl 13 I believe.

[@Vexal50]

@@tarael86 I believe they were entirely optional, though they gave a reward if you did them all so you were incentivized to do them anyways

[@scarocci7333]

swords of legends have a similar tutorial for every class, and teach you about stacking aoe, blocking attacks, taunting, and also have some class tutorials for specific skills (shielding the tank before a specific attack, grabbing to safety a dps in damage aoe, using dmg reductiona against tankbusting attacks, etc). It's really great. Even with a quizz about player etiquette and how to interact with others.

[@johnmclain250]

I played the original Secret World (God I hated the game's class mechanics/skills, but loved the setting.) and I don't recall doing any of that as healer/tank. You just jumped right into the first dungeon with the cuthulu monster at the end.

[@Maddinhpws]

Don't forget that the anime healer is like "I talk for 30 seconds, go oom after 3 heals and do not much more" while the mmorpg healer is like a machine gun firing heals all around or dpsing everytime they are not healing.

[@Christopher-eq1rn]

I prefer to think of them more like a maestro with a gun, directing their party and shooting the baddies as they guide the rhythm of the battlefield

[@fio_lume]

to be fair, Anime Fantasy healers are usually based off of D&D healers (like in Overlord, Goblin Slayer and older Fantasy Animes), who only had a very limited amount of spells to ready per day and otherwise had to rely on scrolls and potions to do the trick. This represents healing magics actually draining your mana like crazy. A late trope made many modern anime healers blonde insecure virgin damsels, whereas in some older shows and mangas, the white mage/priest/cleric usually was young to middle aged man or woman of belief, but who wouldn't shy away from carrying a knife or bonking baddies with their staff more often than not between heals.

[@funninoriginal6054]

@@fio_lume D&D dosen't make its healing classes delicate flowers though, at least not on 5th edition.

[@pantsuchan968]

@@fio_lume Have you never seen a Cleric? GMs have to balance their games specifically for Clerics because they're so stupidly strong. I'd say they're more akin to earlier iterations of the "White Mage" from early JRPGS, granted a lot of Final Fantasy and the like was based off of TTRPGs. If you look at DnD and look at cleric you don't think "Whiney squishy healer" You might as well think "Paladin". Speaking of which, Paladin is another unkillable healing class.

[@fio_lume]

@@funninoriginal6054 2nd half of my comment shares your sentiment. and yes, D&D Clerics can later on just DELETE bosses, i am aware of that.

[@jonquilgemstone]

I NEED a series with your MMO healer character! The accent, the mannerisms, the costume. It's perfect!

[@omargoodman2999]

Maybe not that personality, _specifically,_ but if you want an anime with an *actual* badass healer MC, "The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic" is scheduled for Jan 2024. I've been reading the Manga and I'm *really* looking forward to it, so you might want to give it a look. If you're not sold yet, try this on for size; one of the supporting characters, the Captain of the Recovery Squad, Rose, is a *Super Badass Healer* even moreso than the MC (she's the one who gives him his "Hell Training"). She's what you'd get if Olivier Mira Armstrong and Izumi Curtis from FMA had a kid.

[@ingonyama70]

Pair him off with an anime healer and you have the best yaoi Isekai I've ever seen

[@carsonrush3352]

Dende from DBZA is this during the Frieza arc.

[@linkholder]

​@@carsonrush3352No. No see its Dende. Now say "please heal me Dende"

[@linkholder]

​@@carsonrush3352is 100 percent what Id say as party healer and enemy debuffer

[@icetide9411]

This is honestly just the two categories of healers: Those who heal to save lives, and those who heal to help end lives

[@Dani_Krossing]

Brilliant 😂 And EXACTLY how EVERY healer feel when they aren't new at healing anymore.

[@SkygirlGamingChannel]

sadly true xd

[@SubduedRadical]

Wouldn't say "every", just some/a lot.

[@ralph1125]

To be fair, this might also be called "how play time changes your outlook as an MMORPG healer"

[@mikoto7693]

I hope I don’t change. As a healer of about six months I’m still in the “I’m going to follow that tank into the depths of hell and back to keep him and the DPS alive at all costs!” Phase.

[@ralph1125]

@@mikoto7693 Hi Rebecca, keep the positive outlook! :) My past is, i've been playing healer in WoW for around 7 years, and it is so hard not to give in to being the cynicial a-hole i so much desire to be. The sad part is, my go-to stance is, give everyone a chance. But playing a healer will get you from the light to the dark side eventually. It is like death by a thousand cuts or chinese water torture... :C I hope and wish that you stay strong! Happy Christmas 2021! :)

[@seiggrainhart4719]

@@mikoto7693 As a person who mains either a range attacker or healer for the better part of a decade, you'll learn there are two modes for MMO Healers. The "Don't make me beat you with a stick." Mode. and the "I shall do my job faithfully, sir." mode.

[@sleepysera]

@@mikoto7693 Been healing since 2005: I don't think it's possible to not change. You don't have to become an asshole with a god complex, but you'll definitely grow more jaded with time. There used to be a time when I beat myself up over not being able to save people from their own stupidity, but eventually you'll have to realize that you can't save people from themselves, and if they WANT to go play in traffic and get run over, it's gonna happen, and nothing will stop it. I don't lord over my party, but ultimately what you need to clear most fights is a healer and maaaybe a meatshield to eat the autoattacks (aka a tank); dps are, for most mechanics/fights, mere accessories that are nice to have, but aren't necessarily a wipe if they don't live. My job is to keep a wipe from happening, not to babysit a bunch of suicidal lemmings, and that's definitely what your party can feel like sometimes. Just to clarify: I also main DPS and frequently play tank too, so this isn't me being shitty to other roles. Everyone has a certain level of personal responsibility to make it a smooth run, and if I camp out on the edge of the universe as a DPS, far out of heal range and die to lack of healing, that's on me for not getting into range, not on the healer. If I fail mechanics constantly and get a vulnerability up debuff as a tank over and over again until the boss merely looking my way is enough to oneshot me, that's my fault, not the healer's. As you get more comfortable with healing and/or the game you play, you become more and more aware of these things that aren't within your responsibility as a healer, and if you still beat yourself up over not being able to save someone who is clearly courting death, I don't think that's mentally healthy in the long run.

[@myst1741]

@@mikoto7693 It will change, it doesn't have to be a god-complex. But between all the people blaming you for all their mistakes, and the fact you'll constantly find yourself soloing things MEANT to be done as a party because they run into all the attacks. Maybe duo, because most tanks in my personal experience tend not to be completely brain dead. (Some are, but most have paid proper respect to the healer. And have earned my respect) It WILL jade you. ;x

[@BitwiseMobile]

"The rogue can stay dead. It's better for everyone." No truer words have been spoken. Also, I LOL'd at "Stop pulling everything". Don't you love wall to wall tanks? And then they run away from you and go behind LOS and are wondering where the heals are. "I can't heal through walls!" :D

[@aBucketOfPuppies]

When I started Guild Wars at age 7 I picked Monk just because he looked cool. Who knew it would give me so much power over my older brothers. They were constantly relying on me for the harder missions

[@saffronnie3969]

"Tank we go at my pace, not yours" FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT! Funnily enough, if you go at a pace a healer can't keep up with EVERYONE DIES! Why does no one understand that!?

[@DianaProudmoore]

They don't use healers since they're too braindead for it~

[@DianaProudmoore]

Btw, I'm the usual healer/supp~

[@saffronnie3969]

@@DianaProudmoore I actually prefer tank over healer, but when I went for a healer role, and literally my second dungeon as a healer some Ahole tank ran off round the first corner right away and pulled like 10 enemies, I was like "Um... I'm new to healing... Can we go slow please?" and they said "This is the normal pace" regherhg9rehghregy LET ME HAVE TIME TO LEARN!? NO!? THAT'S NOT A THING!?! Yeah I respect healers when playing as a tank more now. Ever had a healer not revive you out of spite? That was great....

[@DianaProudmoore]

@@saffronnie3969 I'm the usual healer that doesn't rev out of spite~ Specially those dps who draws more aggro than the tank itself then drag it near the back liners(with me in it)~

[@saffronnie3969]

@@DianaProudmoore Once I misunderstood something my friend told me to do, and the healer told me off. And like, spoke to me in a VERY cocky way. And then I realised the weren't really healing so... I said to them in the exact same cocky way they said to me "What are you doing? Can you heal?" yeah they let me die and never revived me. Even tho THEY were the ones to start being cocky cos of a MISTAKE.

[@BarokaiRein]

"Oh you're dead? That explains why the boss started dying faster." whilst looking at the worst dps

[@hasanmuttaqin464]

That's just cruel

[@Go_away__]

“Finally…I did it” is exactly how I feels to play any mmo, moba, or team-based anything. The majority of players have intense main character syndrome.

[@ToasteBlade]

I love playing healers in most games and the way the MMO healer is accurate to all of them is hilarious. Playing a healer is to realize everyone is dumb and you are their mother and god.

[@danklonk5552]

Joined a D&D campaign playing a cleric for the first time ever. Started off as the ‘anime healer’ wishing everyone on the battlefield their best. Now six months into the game I’m multi-classing with Monk (Way of the Mercy), telling the rogue he can do what he wants just don’t expect me to be the one to clean up his mess, and trying desperately to keep sane.

[@Kar4ever3]

I did something similar. I played a pacifist Trickster cleric. But had a pre-determined count of humans kills with the DM, that the party would reach at a point, and my character would flip the script, and become a necro cleric, because "Well if you all like death so much, you might as well all die now, so there will be no more fighting". None of the other players knew that, they just thought I played a coward healbot.

[@nikki607]

Me, refusing to use party diamonds to res a character that died because of avoidable damage. He did get resurrected, had a lot of debt to work off tho

[@AAJillSandwich]

My experience when playing Cleric is every other person expecting you to be a mindless healbot.

[@nikki607]

@@AAJillSandwich because Cleric is the only class in 5e with access to all healing spells, and thus kinda are the "Designated Healer", but they can do so much more

[@AAJillSandwich]

@@nikki607 Not just talking about 5E or DnD specifically for that matter personally more of 2E fan still learning 5E. But even in that context literally talking about people who treat clerics like a robot who's only purpose and only skills/spells are healing and have nothing else to contribute. You also got people who expect you to absolve them of there bad behavior and negligence. (Such as the rogue getting in trouble with the law and cries when you don't assist him in his criminal endeavors. There's people who intentionally or carelessly run through traps and stuff and expect me to waste heal spells on them. It's not about being the "designated healer" but being treated as the designated thrall of healing with no free will. Luckily I've found better people to play with but I'll forever be a toxic healer now.

[@water1374]

Usually I play DPS and I always wondered why they act like that, then I tried out healer and realized that I'm basically playing an RTS with extremely weird indirect controls and highly unpredictable units.

[@steelfox9061]

That is one thing I like about playing healer in killing floor. Drop a medic gernade and most close by teammates run straight to it making it a good way to reposition them, I like playing RTS games.

[@michaelsorensen7567]

We all like to give game devs crap for AI sucking, but then playing with human players we realize at least AI is predictable!

[@asierx7047]

​​@@steelfox9061similarly, TF2 Medic's Amputator will bring every player that hears it to your position

[@troo_6656]

Remember playing healers or supports back in the day. God this feels so spot on, you play with bunch of people who have the survival instincts of a pumpkin and hope for the sake of your sanity that your team can learn to PLAY THE FLIPPING GAME! And then there's nothing else to do but try to carry the team yourself.

[@maxhax367]

"Everyone is dead? Guess I'm solo-ing this" Bring memories on several MMO's where you could have healer gear so tanky you could out heal high level bosses and not die unlike every other class. Bring enough pots and you could solo everything.

[@cara-seyun]

I had that happen in some MMO I played years and years ago (Warcraft? I don’t remember) and I had basically no offensive items except some basic/default weapon But the boss was so low health, I felt like a champion when I finally got the last hit Saddest part was that I didn’t even have to heal that often, since most of their attacks were easily dodgable

[@Diamondphobe]

Terrifyingly accurate MMO healer.

[@Aquilenne]

Except for the "Stop pulling everything" part. It's more like "Start pulling everything"

[@Kaldin0203]

@@Aquilenne Depends on the game. If you played FF14 as healer main, you will see how many dungeons the Tank just wipes the party by doing that because one group of mobs has enough dps in some specific dungeons(thanks to scaling your equipment down, these exist all over the place levelwise) that they can half the tank's life in around 4 seconds...and around 2 seconds is the cast time of a heal. 2 groups are clutch doable sometimes, but when they start going wall to wall getting hit a bunch while walking, I just stop walking, because you mostly can't heal while walking, so the outcome is obvious, heck, standing actually at least gives me the opportunity to try to heal.

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

@@Kaldin0203 Eh, that's just your fault for not being a White Mage. Holy + about half a dozen panic buttons means that your tank should barely be taking any damage if you're playing a WHM, let alone actually die. _Especially_ if they don't forget to press their own goddamn buttons.

[@Kaldin0203]

@@hannessteffenhagen61 Guess someone never played any of the lower level ones with such braindead tanks and think they're a god because the tanks were actually not braindead. You literally have less than 4 healing skills before level 48 or something. They all have cooldowns. A tank pulling everything literally dies faster than your total healing is. White Mage especially is shit before his last few pre-Heavensward-skills. That's the class where I felt that the most, since I leveled it afterwards. With mostly getting those braindead tanks and nothing else, unless I got someone I know to tank for me. Didn't change having such braindead tanks en masse when leveling different DPS-classes though. You lose access to all skills above a certain level, and your EQ becomes a minimum of what you have equipped in lower dungeons, so you can go experience that still. Just grab someone you know and tell them to pull everything in those 30s dungeons and see how you can't heal for shit in comparison to the damage coming in. Either that first part, or you're one of those braindead tanks, which I wouldn't assume from that last part of your comment though.

[@mitchellhorton9382]

@@Kaldin0203 Scholar doesn't even have any spells below lvl 30 it's just psykick and your fairy (the fairy can carry the party so it's okay)

[@JJStylies]

I'm pretty sure playing as a healer is actually the #1 way to develop sadism.

[@loganshaw5]

Looks at a certain healer mc and his commander in the healing corps. You maybe on to something.🤔

[@ofal5124]

this actually gave me an idea to create a character of a healer that is suffering from total megalomania and god complex and the worst part of that would be that he's be right about it

[@DaWhiteWolffie]

@@ofal5124 Ooooo, I'm stealing this idea, if I ever play DnD again.

[@wor1dconquerer170]

Don't Hurt Me, My Healer! Is also a funny anime. Where for example in one episode she blessed the mc to take No damage. But it turns out that all the pain that the spell negated comes back at the same time

[@Zack_Zander]

I feel exposed

[@ThMrksman]

Being a healer in an MMO really gets you to grips with which team members are most worth having, because they very often become the ones you're actually trying to keep alive the hardest. I mean assuming you're doing general raid heals and not just healing the main tank for example.

[@The_Milkkk]

How my party in dnd expected me to play healer (expected life domain) vs me playing healer (chose grave domain)

[@dervakommtvonhinten517]

an anime about the second kind of healer would be so much more entertaining than those annoying anime tropes

[@Blutwind]

"Wrong way of using healing magic" is kinda like that but so far we only got a manga :(

[@verskarton]

I think there was one instance in an harem anime where the healer was like. Beat this love rival up but just enough so I can still heal him.

[@Kaimax61]

Grimgar of fantasy and Ash has literally 2 examples of it.

[@cvernon5256]

@@Kaimax61 HA!!! I was going to recommend that!! It does a great job!

[@dervakommtvonhinten517]

@@Kaimax61 tried watching it but didnt really appeal to me

[@scarocci7333]

In the anime Grimgar, the healer ( a girl) is actually like the mmo-healer. At one moment she snap to the group because they expect her to heal tiny injury and she explain them she doesn't have unlimited mana so she keep it for shit that actually matter and if they aren't happy with that then they can just get better

[@sylvesterpenn]

Grimgar is amazing. Beginning to end.

[@ultimaxkom8728]

I've watched the 1st season a long time ago. Was there any further seasons?

[@aychazyt6987]

@@ultimaxkom8728 no, sadly

[@ultimaxkom8728]

@@aychazyt6987 Dang...

[@HarryAyA]

If you were to rename Grimgar following modern anime naming schemes, it would be called: When anime healers aren't good enough, so you replace them with MMO healers! Or something to that effect.

[@nikki4803]

No one wants to talk about the "You're all sacks of hitpoints and I'm GOD." line?? Shit killed me 😂

[@Kadel___]

In a D&D game I played as a Cleric I had to continuously heal an NPC that our party was paid to protect. He kept on going down after every round even with the +5 hp and advantage to saving throws I had given him. By the end of the encounter I was legit out of spell slots and had used them all on healing the guy. Needless to say I was pretty annoyed at this NPC and wanted to kill him myself by the end of the session. We also took all of his money and valuables afterwards because of how much torment he put us through.

[@mountainhun]

Me starting as a tank: "It's my job as a leader to know every dungeon like the back of my hand, calculating every pull and positioning the monsters to optimal strategic effect!" Me as a tank after missing a few expansions- "Christ I gotta speed run these dungeons or the DPS are going to pull *everything,* am I the only one who cares about the healer's mana?

[@the_dropbear4392]

In my experience an extra distinct works better than a tank

[@hoodiesticks]

As an FF14 player ... yes, you are the only person worrying about the healer's mana, including the healers. If they run out of mana, it's their fault for not pressing buttons.

[@DillonWinchell]

Bless you

[@bruderlein8514]

I feel this deep in my MMO healer bones. This could also be "New Healer vs Veteran Healer." Brilliant.

[@HeShoeTooBig]

as a veteran healer, I have a no-heal list in the games I play. I refuse to heal douche bags no matter what.

[@Buttersaemmel]

@@HeShoeTooBig oh it's so annoying when they totaly deserve to die so you just don't heal them and they still survive just trough sheer luck...

[@theguyyouhate]

@@Buttersaemmel or worse ebacuse someone else think you aren't being deliberate about it. even worse if it's a non-healer wasteing time they should be dpsing.

[@falscher2]

@@Buttersaemmel if it happens often enough, it is no longer luck and you, as the healer, are ding your job right

[@almightyk11]

For a while, the top tournament winners in the Dragonball MMO were the healing class. Because they were able to out endure the DPS and tank classes

[@dragonsswarm1987]

The MMO healer seems like they'd be a fun mentor type character.

[@RagnarokiaNG]

As a healer "main", I never say such things... ...I just think them all inside my mind.

[@sleepysera]

This. I'm SO much more ruthless in my mind than what I actually say 🤭 Maybe there's a sliver left of me that wants to preserve that kind sweet healer image~

[@SunArau]

Oh famous smile while murdering group in 8 different ways inside own mind? XD

[@jjrulez1596]

As a dps main who is starting to play healer, i say these all... a LOT. Mainly cause the fact those who die to the red swirl on the ground cant hear me.

[@jbutler8585]

Never tip your hand by issuing threats, and you can kill so many more dps.

[@TragerM]

but out loud is sooooooo much more satisfying (and cathardic)..... (as is drawing a mega monster to a stupid person, to get said stupid person to stop doing stupid things... then verbally say "okay, now.. are you going to LISTEN this time?")

[@abbewinter9249]

"I can't out-heal stupidity" is a perfect summary of my time as a support player in various games. I want it on a laptop decal.

[@ryanauger853]

“You’re all sacks of hit points and I’m God” lol 😂

[@awesomeness9824]

" I can't heal through walls can I?" is every time I play a healer, that one person that runs in by themselves and takes a ton of damage/dies and yells at me that I didn't heal them through 31853 walls.

[@Cam-np9wk]

In D&D, our healer could deal more damage in one blow than everyone else while healing the bard and STILL having enough movement and spell points to summon angels. Never underestimate the cleric

[@imperialphoenix1229]

For 4 and a half editions noone chose cleric because 'i don't want to be the healer' so they've gotten a steady stream of buffs that's 20+ years long and nobody seems to realize they're the strongest non-multiclass in 5e

[@christerjakobsen8107]

@@imperialphoenix1229 There's a reason Clerics and Druids are known by the nickname "CoDzilla", at least in 3rd and 3.5 edition.

[@Mokiefraggle]

@@christerjakobsen8107 Seriously. Done even remotely right, 3.x edition Clerics and Druids were terrifying. For that matter, a 4e Cleric was all about wreaking holy wrath upon their foes while also being one of the best healers. I mean, you're coming right out the gate first level with things like Healing Strike and Beacon of Hope, plus Healing Word, and an assortment of other possibilities loaded with buff/debuff potential, while still doing damage. Problem really is that too many other players will scream "You're doing it wrong!!!" when the Cleric does something other than being the heal-bot. =/

[@lefterismplanas4977]

Well I'm not playing D&D and I don't know too much. But I do remember that in CR campaign one, their cleric used one spell and summoned an angel, for money, and it just insta repaired a broken church. The cost for that angel for a full day wasn't too bad either, especially in the aftermath when the amount of gold turned into "how much are you willing to take" rather than "here's what you find" And that's just from a person who knows nothing of Clerics

[@wor1dconquerer170]

@@Mokiefraggle especially streamers who jump on the dnd bandwagon to try to get money. They tend to think of clerics as just the healers. Atleast 1 stream I'm listening to they homebrewed attacking with a bonus action after casting a spell because they thought clerics aren't that fun/strong.

[@Trixareforkidsvegeta]

You've never truly played a healer until you've told someone you haven't given them permission to die.

[@JAY___M]

"The rogue can stay dead, its better for everyone this way" 😂

[@KeeperofShadows-gd9bb]

As somebody whose favorite class is druid in WoW, I can confirm that this is super accurate. The normal sequence of events goes like this. "Okay, follow my lead, I've run through this dungeon a lot already. We've got the first boss coming up and you need to- and the rouge is already dead, the mage is about to join him, the warlock doesn't even have his demon summoned, and the tank straight up left. Great. FUCK YOU ALL! I'M DOING THE REST OF IT MYSELF!"

[@verdanthyborian2322]

Being a druid... "Hey our healer sucks, druid, help heal!" "But I'm the tank... Uh, fine I'll do both..."

[@kokorochacarero8003]

Been there, done that Not a pleasant experience, but rejuv goes brrrrrr

[@nikki607]

And that's how you find the D&D player😂

[@loganshaw5]

The tank healing those that get randomly attacked.

[@verdanthyborian2322]

@@loganshaw5 I'm a great tank, no one ever got attacked. I had to heal the ones standing in the fire!

[@loganshaw5]

@@verdanthyborian2322 O that is worst then off tanking.

[@thelonemadlad]

In ESO I took two casual story mode players into a normal dragonstar arena and they had such low damage that each round would take minutes to clear. They wanted to leave but you can’t leave while in combat. They wanted to die so that they could escape. I chose otherwise.

[@user-nw6nx1cq6k]

😹

[@tysej4]

Did you at least teach them how not to be casuals.. I feel that is very important with ESO in particular.. It is so easy to just do "Normal" content and completely fall by the wayside.

[@js-cm9si]

I loved doing that as a cleric in video games. Even if they wanted to leave the party. "You die when I say so!"

[@Xaderoth]

I've outdamaged the dps in my team multiple times as the healer. In their defence, they're all under cp160. It is torturous though and we'd get to an arena where they're no longer able to get any kills, I cannot kill fast enough, and we all get overwhelmed.

[@Xaderoth]

Best is those dps that don't know how to use any skills so they just light and heavy attack...

[@Dorei02]

Hehe i personally see the role of healer as a Manager, aside deciding who lives or not, you can also have buffs to improve the ones who are worthy.

[@st.haborym]

"I can't heal through walls" is literally what happened to me during Overwatch one time.

[@faztznya5207]

For a moment I almost said "would be cool to have a anime where the healer is the protagonist", but then I remembered how it had gone last time it happened....

[@sebastianrochefort6763]

Re-do of healer doesn't count/exist. Does anyone know if "The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic" is getting an anime adaptation?

[@realdragon]

@@sebastianrochefort6763 Don't hurt me my healer but it's debatable if she's healer

[@rogersrs9261]

There's a manga called Live Dungeon! which have the main character being a healer.

[@Bartoc1988]

@@realdragon Carla obviously was a healer. She healed plenty of times in the anime! You just blinked.

[@massgunner4152]

What about Diamond is unbreakable?

[@sephestra.]

I REALLY wish I could like this more than once! The MMO healer is absolutely my daughter every time we do random dungeons together...or mythics...or raids...or anything. Except she also adds in, "Yeah, the enhance shaman is my mom, Mr. Tank. I will 100% use my Life Cocoon on her before you if you piss me off...that goes for rest of you as well". I just sent her the link to this. I'm so happy =D

[@Egorator]

that's so cool) playing any multiplayer game with your family is probably one of the greatest things one can have in life. not for me to say lmao

[@prive1382]

@@Egorator lol same that is now a new goal in life

[@Dawnlotus]

@@Egorator :) yes! I play dungeons and dragons with my dad and brother as well as the rest of my party and it’s so much fun. We can discuss plans and stuff outside of session time. Ive finally convinced my mom to give it a try

[@Kitsunenokoi]

This is me and MY daughter! Only I'm a mage. ROFLMAO!! And she and I just watched this together.

[@Ivotas]

In less than two minutes you made me laugh more than anything else what I watched this year combined. Thank you very much Josh. I truly needed this.

[@sadpee7710]

omg this video is perfect this captures it so well what a performance

[@owohscorner]

You also forgot the group of healers that main healing because the literally, quite honestly do not trust other people to heal. Yes, I am one of those healers. I heal the party cuz I'm pretty sure if I went dps or tank, the healer wouldn't do as good a job.

[@Firehawk376]

Represent!

[@zarris2635]

You get it!

[@Multarix_]

Literally me

[@Hxnnibe3]

Im the "would rather dps or tank, but nobody wants to be the healer so i guess i main them now." And then over time i get tired of watching the main tank try to solo dive and just give up on having or being a good healer

[@MeAndMira]

If I DPS it’s on a class with off heals, just so I can top the tank up enough to keep the sad excuse of a healer or the other DPSers alive. I just can’t play pure DPS classes in an MMO without literally almost wanting to just quit the game forever

[@FabbrizioPlays]

DRG: "Can I get a rez?" Me, a WHM: "I just gave you a rez, what did you do with the last one?" DRG: "There was a pretty circle on the ground" Me, to team: "So we're a party of 7 now, I will not be answering questions"

[@toodleselnoodos6738]

Ya….guilty of that, Additionally, I like to put frames on the wall where the DRG and RDM’s splattered corpses are.

[@Konpekikaminari]

It's not (always) our fault that we get rezzed _into_ the knockback AoE a millisecond before it fires

[@chistovmaxim]

@@Konpekikaminari well you can just not use actions for the first 4 secs so the healer can heal you while you are invulnerable

[@Konpekikaminari]

@@chistovmaxim some knockbacks go through the invul Yes, I learned it the hard way

[@chistovmaxim]

@@Konpekikaminari that sucks dude :)

[@wezul]

This is fantastic. I am adding several of these lines to my quotebook. :D

[@ruthejbooth8661]

As a former tank and healer, this rage made me all nostalgic. Good times...