Ridiculously light! BetaFPV Air65 -- A new standard in micro performance!

[@blackjungle308]

Silly heads up: Betafpv has the Air AIO5 out too. Its pretty much the same AIO, but with built in UART ELRS. No bulky receiver dangling in!

[@jd5417]

I read somewhere its actually heavier??? Not sure if that's true, I would think it would be lighter but seen it on reddit somewhere 😅

[@jd5417]

Also they don't do a tbs in aio

[@kacpersobczak9970]

Where’s the vid on the hummingbird v3.1 RS? 🤔

[@smika710]

Right that ones usable

[@marc_frank]

the title of this video is kinda funny considering the v3.1 just came out

[@StoneFPV-]

Exactly what I was thinking….

[@ChrisHarmon1]

​@@StoneFPV- Same. Ordered my first newbeedrone after seeing their claims of weight with motors at 1.29g and frame at 2.4g. I am not a fan of their muddy OSD though. I'm hoping a whoop in the 15.x range will achieve a little longer flights for freestyle flying indoors.

[@SteadyeddieFPV]

2 weeks. lol 🤷‍♂️

[@rossjamestobitt]

So glad to see you take both versions out for a proper test. I love my Air65 and I was wondering if I got the right version, your video pretty much confirmed that I did.

[@HaleFPVRC]

Great review, as always. Still gotta mark flying with you off my bucket list. Mattybluntz, Bot, Zoe, and Ciotti were all at CC and I got to fly with each of them. You and Steel are the last on my list 😂 come fly with us!!! 😢 you’ve flown with half our crew like Flyhigh and Kong.. would definitely be a day if remember since you and JC from project blue falcon were the reasons I got into this crazy hobby.

[@putrid.p]

If the minimum camera angle is still too high you can reduce it further by undoing the rear FC screw and leaving the rear of the canopy loose (replace the screw to secure the FC though). The canopy is still stable enough for the camera, but its angle is significantly less.

[@leonhardbokowski81]

That's just asking for a torn off U.FL socket. They're already incredibly prone to failure during crashes If you have a 3D printer you can print a different canopy as the original betafpv ones break super easily

[@putrid.p]

@@leonhardbokowski81 good point, although the decreased camera angle means I'm flying much slower so crash energy is much less. It's been fine so far, though I should fashion a short extension to secure it.

[@leonhardbokowski81]

@@putrid.p Haha, that's true. I have mine set to the stock angle and flying outdoors it has hit walls, telephone poles and fences at full force hundreds of times at this point. I broke both stock canopies in just a couple of days but the new 3d printed one hasn't broke at all!

[@Amajor10]

Typing in 10.0.0.1 to connect to expressLRS was something I didn’t know at all. It’s been super frustrating to get that page without that information. Thanks a ton!

[@lameandboard]

😂

[@Madvizion]

I've been a betafpv fan for awhile. After the Inductrix was discontinued i bought a second hand whoop from marketplace. It was a betafpv and i still fly it today five years later. Ive replaced everything but the board. I really enjoy the literadio 3 and their batteries are top notch. Glad to see there are always pushing the envelope, especially in whoops.

[@ch3m1c]

I'm loving my Air75 a lot, flying it outdoors. Thinking of getting A65 for winter and indoor funs. Here comes like nr 💯

[@djSpinege]

liftoff micro drones is worth getting. i'll be ripping Mellon pan park all winter :)

[@cryptofasho]

Air65 is super durable, i've crashed mine hard many times and it still flies like a champ!

[@winder6]

Great review JB the most detailed review I've seen on the BetaFPV air 65mm quads. Man when you did that Matty flip that set you up perfectly to go into a trippy spin and the Air 65mm are great for doing trippy spins. You got this. Cheers

[@LordRejion]

JB.. the Air 65 is one of my favorites. Analog whoop for sure. The way it's tuned out of the box.. is just.. much love .. to fun 😁

[@CDRaff]

It's wild that as light as this is the new NBD race whoop is nearly a full gram lighter. Stuff is getting so small we're going to need to start getting into micro soldering to work on them.

[@AKtoTok]

Betafpvs whoops have been so solid.. their 85mm versions are my favorite hands down, this looks lile theyve gotten close to the responsiveness of the 85mm! Awesome stuff 🙌🤙

[@ZenoTasedro]

I recommended this one to a buddy based on my experience with the Cetus X, now I want one XD

[@DavidBauer38]

The flight of the freestyle drone (27:57) was amazing! Really smooth and great power loops!!!

[@Wizzard033]

YES SIR, I have 2 R and a FS and these little whoops are awesome! They have a sweet tune and instantly noticed how flyable it was by shooting tiny gaps and the picture is excellent. Comparing between the two versions I find the R 2700kv motors to be very nice and the FS seems a bit tame after flying the R. I have been over a quarter mile across a local park in two with a good line of sight and I still had a very acceptable Tx and Rx links! i have tortured my Air65s and have broken nothing not even prop damage Man I love these!

[@TryAgainFPV]

I don't know if you addressed the canopy making contact with the UFL causing damage in crashes.. Tyrantt has a video on modifying and Betafpv is now shipping these with modified canopies..

[@chatbear69]

I never even thought about getting a quad stuck in a tree. That sling shot and the telescopic pole was very cool to see. Thanks for teaching me something today Joshua. BTW nice belly ... 😄

[@recon_fpv]

Thank you for treeing that quad. Its so normal!

[@Superkuh2]

The closer the propeller tips are to the prop guard inner surface the less losses to tip vortices. Increased tolerances to avoid hits might be the cause of the relatively decreased flying efficiency/flight time.

[@FIGFPV]

The air65 tune is so good.

[@LCMedia-q1s]

Great review JB, btw the NewBeeDrone Hummingbird RS is 16.5g right now, looking forward to see your review on it 🔥

[@Sn0opY1988]

im so happy with my 65 R - got 7+ drones now big to small and the most fun is 6s freestyle and tinywhoops! my poor Neo collecting dust

[@TheDepep1]

To go with the "what if your drones stuck in a tree" video we need a "what to do if your drones stuck in a hole" video. Today I crashed my tinywhoop into a grass field, it rolled then kept rolling, then MF rolled down into a hole that was like 3ish feet deep. I took plenty of pictures with my camera to make sure there was nothing there but I was able to confirm the hole went on past a spot I couldn't put my camera so I just had to reach in quick and grab it. I think some useful tools for similar situations would be great, like falling in a somewhat shallow drain hole. Places a drone can get stuck that you cant or shouldn't stick your arm into.

[@GardoRotor]

I always value your thoughts JB thanks for all you do. It's not easy Now all we need is a avatar version or an aio with out a vtx. Then add a 1s vtx avatar lite vtx

[@FPV_Milford]

I love my BetaFPV Meteor 65! Might have to try the Air 65

[@serenestateofbeing1062]

I got the freestyle version and it's a little slow. I'd go with the race edition unless you're a beginner. It's just so much more fun and capable

[@orilevi1281]

i have waited for this video

[@robertrosicrucion]

I actually like the idea with the RX. I could put one of my old crossfires on him and go!! LOL

[@justinmuller4809]

i remember the stream, where we talked about different kv behavior and it's efficiency. 😀 btw, we got bardwell shooting in his own yard before gta6

[@CalleyyyC]

It took me way too long to adjust between Acro and angle, I just found it helpful to me to stay with acro. However I started with flying whoops and in acro, so it was also what I was accustomed to.

[@BrandonBeans]

@15:00 I encourage all angle mode pilots (this means you too, JB) to try the new BF 4.5 implementation of Horizon mode. Chris Thompson fixed it so that it feels exactly like acro, uses acro rates, but auto levels when you let off the right stick. There are a couple parameters for tuning it and they are in OSD Profile Misc page

[@2perspektiva]

Waiting for Air75 👁👁

[@h2o40fpv]

The connector you need to leave it in the tools that what I do i put it with all my tool for woops wich is small screw driver the propeller popper and battery charger 😅😅😊

[@cryptofasho]

You should try the Air75 next :D

[@quintonrichards4805]

Curious what your recommendation is for someone’s first drone build. In your experience does one option stand out?

[@CallumBrophy-i7k]

Love your work

[@gregorydahl]

You can make racegates as small as the horse shoe shaped birdcage swings . Remember when they were huge

[@MoNFPV]

13:10 because “telemetry lost” “telemetry recovered”

[@Fpv-5280]

This is thing is so much fun

[@BraveFPV]

YES...get the Big Shot out 😍 that is my preferred way for getting unstuck 🌲 Works every time ✌

[@alanvictorreno]

Good review

[@terminalpsychosis8022]

Lower KV motors, you'll have less top speed, but better torque / acceleration. Makes sense if recovery from a power loop is easier.

[@Wulfric001]

Joshh review the Meteor 75 pro, definitely closer to an 5 inch "feel" xD

[@McShakyFPV]

Love “better-er” wouldn’t telemetry be a power drain causing lower flight times?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Not at all.

[@crash_lander]

Betafpv has come out with a 5 in 1 FC that out performs this diamond board.

[@n2myFPV-uu6ks]

From what I heard, the durability of the 5in1 isn't as good compared to the 4in1 FC

[@liguokun2005]

Hey bro, They are not the lightest any more. Check out our hummingbird V3.1 RaceSpec. let me know if you need one for review!

[@nener23]

Can I use Goggles X with this somehow?

[@amen_ra6926]

Since it's analog, it takes me back a few years to those days when the video looked like watching TV on an old CRT box with the rabbit ears and having to adjust the vertical hold. Very nostalgic. I haven't flown analog in so long but it makes me want to bust out my old 75mm with dual 1S and buzz around. I just need to update my 1s packs. The sag is pretty bad. Maybe change the plug and use straight up 2S instead. . Side note...the "Oh nos..." after getting stuck in the tree were classic.

[@pugwonk]

I wonder if turning telemetry on uses much ELRS bandwidth

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The BetaFlight telemetry option only controls whether the FC sends telemetry data. It doesn't affect the ELRS telemetry rate.

[@petrokey]

I've made a build with their new 5in1 fc... And it do not give weight change) maybe 0.2 gramms or so but it seems almost no change. The only difference is a cooper-wire antenna instead if flat smd. I do not know if it will show better performance... What do you think about cooper-wire antenna?

[@RBRCbashem]

BetaFPV for the win! My HM products don’t last anywhere near a long as my beta stuff. 2024 Mob6 didn’t last a week 🙄

[@native_man7215]

When is episode Six coming??? Been a long wait

[@KcCake]

Hmm i hope someone makes a comparison with this and the new nbd whoop!

[@thomasnewton9818]

Are these analog video?

[@Voyajer.]

Yes

[@basslagter1]

I currently own a DJI Avata with Integra Goggles and FPV controller 2. Now, I would love to get my hands on a tinywhoop like this but are being held back by the confusion around what goggles/remote to buy and the flight controller binding etc. I would love to see some sort of "buy this and this, do this and this and your ready to go" video. Call me lazy but I just like the flying and do not have the time to get into all the details.

[@user-swx457f22]

Setup: Radiomaster Pocket(elrs) + Betafpv VR03👍

[@basslagter1]

@@user-swx457f22 is there a good reason to go for the Radiomaster and not the LiteRadio 3 from BetaFPV for example? Actually stumbled upon this "Cetus X FPV" kit which looks nice also. Or is that a bad choice?

[@basslagter1]

@@user-swx457f22 how is this compared to the "LiteRadio 3" from betafpv for example? I came across this one in the "Cetus X FPV" kit which looks nice as well.

[@basslagter1]

@@user-swx457f22 how is this compared to the "LiteRadio 3" from betafpv for example? I came across this one in the "Cetus X FPV" kit which looks nice as well.

[@mika_htg]

Welllll, technically i should sleep, buuuttt joshua bardwell just uploaded, so i guess tomorrow will be a tired day

[@CallumBrophy-i7k]

Just bought my Nazgûl eco because of your video

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic flying and review, Joshua! Really well done!!! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@francescobagnato9006]

Can you print tpu props pls I want to see if they would explode or be durable

[@thebigbilltheory4388]

So I’m curious. I’ve never built a drone but I want to build a 5 inch for cinematics. A makeshift cinedrone if you will. Is there programmable software for auto stabilization for simple work like real-estate until I get into sports stuff? Or do I have to stick with a DJI drone or something like it? Thanks in advance and sorry for the ignorance.

[@ZipovUA]

Hi Joshua, could you please show how you assembled you drone with RunCam Wifilink? I try to put it into mark4 7 inch, but don't see place for it (not enough height). What frame did you use in your case?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I literally stuck it to the outside of the frame with double sided tape and rubber bands and electrical tape.

[@petrokey]

What can you tell about battary? When flying air65 outside I feel battary not enough power when exiting loop or dive.

[@cwwisk]

Hey everyone, have you ever tried running analog or digital FPV on Meta 3 Headset? I am going to try Walksnail since I have the stuff to do it, but don't have a 5.8ghz capture card with real-time HDMI out. Just curious if anyone else has tried this since the meta 3 has 120hz screens.

[@gamarcano2007]

have you even notice that elrs receiver rssi dBm signal get down too low? mine get -108 at 10 meters distance 😮

[@JoshuaBardwell]

That suggests a damaged antenna or damaged radio.

[@Boydentjes-zn6uc]

hey, i have a question. do you know by change how many A the motor beeping makes especially with a long bleujay melody. on a 5inch with 6s battery

[@lectorserelith]

Man I haven't found an Air75 or Air65 that's in stock for a month now lol

[@habiks]

HummingBird v3.1 RS - 16 gram.

[@jbaked2585]

Toss the electronics into a meteora65 2022 pro frame. It’s not much weight difference, provides more room for bigger props, and is more durable.

[@bennett_fpv]

Can I just put this new frame on my old meteor 65 pro ?

[@samcacc..03]

nope

[@bennett_fpv]

@@samcacc..03 darn that’s sad

[@samcacc..03]

@@bennett_fpv I mean, you can but you'll need to change propellers. And at the end youll have big motors with small props an frame, amd this wont make it fly well (but you can try just by buying 31mm props)

[@bennett_fpv]

@@samcacc..03 thanks!

[@BryonGaskin]

Yet, they kept that camera angle that makes it difficult for newbie to fly. All sounds good expect for that

[@thejoehoward]

Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question. Im new to the fpv world. Will this Air65 connect to the DJI Goggles 3 and DJI fpv remote

[@Stevieboyfpv]

No its analogue video transmission, dji is digital transmission.

[@thejoehoward]

@@Stevieboyfpv do you have a good one that you would recommend that would work with them. A good one not a beginner drone

[@lkphysics9445]

hello sir updated the firmware of my ELRS receiver through speedybee beta flight mobile application and then it didn't work and couldn't flash it again. I tried pressing and holding the button on it but it didn't help. I tried through beta flight pass through and it didn't work what should I do? The LED on the receiver is only lit and there is no flashing.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

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[@cicadafun]

I have both versions and both appear to have terrible Rx range for some reason. I have a mobula6 2024 and it maintains link quality around 98-100 all the way to 200-300 feet away and I'm confident it can go further than that. Conversely my Air65 freestyle struggles around 50-115 feet away, with my Radiomaster Pocket sending out telemetry loss and recovered warnings left and right. Barely any obstructions but link quality drops to 60-70 at packet rates of 150-250 Hz. My racing version is much better and can get as far as the distance I've attempted with my mobula but still struggles around 190-230 feet away.

[@StoneFPV-]

My experience was the complete opposite. My 2024 mob6 was terrible in all ways and the air65 has been wonderful.

[@cicadafun]

@@StoneFPV- How unfortunate for me to get two Air65 with terrible range, otherwise I do like how it flies and the camera is better than my Mobula6. 😢 Honestly I'm not sure if it's even the drone or some compatibility issue with my Radiomaster Pocket but I'm unsure about the reason. I did adjust the telemetry ratio a bit to see if it helped and it did but only a little. There are other people online I'm seeing with the same issue too lol.

[@StoneFPV-]

@@cicadafun try turning your packet down to 50hz. The pocket only has a max power of 250mw. I had that same problem with my zorro (which maxes power out at 250mw as well). Now that I use a boxer at 1w I’ve turned my packet rate back up to 250hz

[@cicadafun]

@@StoneFPV- I did that and range slightly improved but still getting the warnings lol. Funny enough it seems it adversely affected the range on my mobula6 somehow.

[@StoneFPV-]

@@cicadafun if it’s just the telemetry warning you could just shut it off

[@mizo7renthlei2]

Sir,, im new in fpv and i jush bought radio master pocket (elrs). What google is to bought and is this air65 support with pocket radio

[@ivankrastev7145]

Wait till you see the New Newbee drone

[@dracocq]

What scale do you use for weighing drones?

[@Smoakeyyy]

How do you pair fpv goggles to the fpv drone?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

For analog systems, you don't pair. You just put your goggles on the same channel as the video transmitter.

[@ChainsawFPV]

So you have no excuses to race this season right??

[@Leon._.292]

I removed the elrs receiver and soldered a tbs nano rx on there. However im still trying to figure out how to properly mount the tbs micro antenna on there since its so long Does someone have an idea how i could do that?

[@matvey_youtube]

Короче, ждём такой же дрон на HDZero AIO5 (желательно в новой версии, когда ELRS будет получше) и это будет песня. Уже замахиваюсь, чтобы бросить деньги в монитор

[@therealdohos2607]

is there a whoop on the market that doesnt have the throttle at max when you barely touch the stick because im not down with the super fast stuff you guys are all talking about i want to fly in my appartment without hurting my cats and the only drone i have that is said to be for beginners is set up in a way that i just cant fly without it going in a bouncing motion because one millimeter lower isslow but if i move the stick of half a millimeter up the throttle goes x100 and i just fly to the ceiling and stress the f out because my cat is just underneath and i have to avoid it with a drone thats over responsive

[@therealdohos2607]

the question is can i learn how to fly without my quad being too fast to be able to learn anything in the tiny 3 minutes i have

[@kurtzFPV]

​@@therealdohos2607to me, throttle management was the hardest part about learning to fly. You can put a throttle limit on it but it is still going to seem over responsive until you get some practice in. Have you tried any simulators?

[@kaptkronik135]

TBS micro antenna weighs less and performs much better

[@Leon._.292]

How did you mount it to the drone since its quite long? Im still trying to figure that out

[@lameandboard]

Doesn't elrs send telemetry even with telemetry disabled in betaflight?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes but the FC sensors, like battery voltage, aren't there if FC telemetry is off.

[@APS-yo8oy]

Ordered this from Betafpv a month ago. Still waiting. 😂

[@gato9573]

I waited a while as well, I have the 65 and 75(forget the names). Both are super durable and fly great. Worth the wait for sure

[@StoneFPV-]

I refuse to order anything from them after having that same experience.

[@APS-yo8oy]

@@StoneFPV-ugh… I learned that very thing with this experience

[@StoneFPV-]

@@APS-yo8oy most of their products are available from US based retailers and some are even available on Amazon

[@bryanteger]

Love my air65, been waiting on my 75 from beta fpv since the end of August.

[@CallumBrophy-i7k]

Hello

[@CriticoolHit]

I had to rip full speed face first directly into a large tree to finally brake one of my meteor frames. They lived up to the hype imo. Also They turn off telemetry because it reduces issue reporting. People don't understand that the telemetry BACK is usually maxed at 25mw and thus their controller is constantly yapping at them "telemetry lost, telemetry restored, telemetry critical" -- who cares. Shut it off.

[@olafschermann1592]

+1 for slingshot

[@RickLaBanca]

Those non usb plugs stink. Because they’re all different! I blew out a betaflight controller by blindly grabbing my Walksnail usb plug which is not wired the same. Boom.

[@Smirk_Station]

Whoop d de dooo

[@Sugar_K]

not sure but the race tune but the FS tune has no FF. its 2024 thats just backwards frankly..

[@nucleo1772]

all them drones fly 3min...5 years ago and now... nothing change :(

[@gregorydahl]

Internet downloading of firmware is interrupted and poor quality here and maybe won't even do it. You need a $600 computer and $1200 a year connection to upgrade to finish making an $8 reciever .

[@ginupe32]

Am I the only one that is getting 1:30 min - 2:00 flight times?

[@WalterDeambrogio]

Like for t-shirt!

[@ThePieSnatcher]

Wow! Bros late to the party...

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I release videos when they're ready, when I want to. I don't rush to release videos just because a product is new.

[@ThePieSnatcher]

@@JoshuaBardwell I didn't mean anything negative lol. I don't buy anything before your video comes out anyways 😅

[@simonshandrinov9079]

Re: 13:08 Somehow I only have my OSD showing RSSI dBm and LQ correctly if TLM is disabled...ヽ(ー_ー )ノ

[@JoshuaBardwell]

RSSI and LQ come from the receiver. The FC telemetry option doesn't affect receiver based sensors.

[@mcbewild]

yeaaaa i'm still waiting on my order lol........ordered my air75 from betafpv website and was supposably shipped on 8/11/24 and i'm still waiting on it to arrive... I keep contacting customer service and all they say is its waiting for customs to clear it... gonna shop a little more local next time..

[@GR8SCOTT]

A few months late to the game Bardwell.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I will release a video when it's ready, and when I'm ready to release it. I'm completely over rushing to put out a video just to hit a release date. If that means I get fewer views, oh well.