To everybody saying, "Just use a multimeter." Multimeter are great and I show in this video how to use one to detect faults. But multimeter cannot protect against all faults. What if you have a battery plugged in and you are testing the FC with a multimeter and you accidentally short circuit two pads with the multimeter probe. Smoke stopper will save you. What if you have an ESC that is damaged so it's going to smoke the motor as soon as you plug in? Smoke stopper will save you. So please, please stop with this macho "I don't need a smoke stopper" BS. If you don't want to use one more power to you. It absolutely has a place though.
@pattivanblindflug30523 жыл бұрын
That already happened to me! Fried a FC with the Multimeter! 🥺
@smoke25843 жыл бұрын
yep. fried my fc-esc-vtx on that plugged lipo while doing the multimeter. lol
@user-yk1cw8im4h Жыл бұрын
why are u guys probing a fc when power is connected tho, that’s just dumb
@CidFFVII10 ай бұрын
Your not supposed to use a multimeter while power is on anyway. Only if your checking amperage and that is a protected circuit in the multimeter
@Lozoot23 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell is... _The QuadFather_ _"lipos are a dish best served un-puffed."_
@JoshuaBardwell3 жыл бұрын
WHY DID IT LIE TO ME. I TRUSTED IT.
@trevorimpulsebuyguy63983 жыл бұрын
I'm Henry Rollins and your going to learn YOUR A LIAR smoke stopper
@strattonford25573 жыл бұрын
The music killed me lmfao
@markcloudchaser8743 жыл бұрын
I don't fly FPV yet, but I know not to fly it with a smoke stopper lol, thanks to you JB 👊💯 a mean its common sense
@BaldmanFPV3 жыл бұрын
At least its lying in the safe way lol.
@lordhenrix15103 жыл бұрын
My smoke stopper tripped while testing In The motors tab at 75% throttle. I removed the smoke stopper and smoked the motor in the back. Any tips to get me flying again? I have a 4 in 1 hglrc zeus35
@SkyCandyVisuals3 жыл бұрын
How in the hell did you stay serious without laughing in that first minute is beyond me 🤣🤣
@JoshuaBardwell3 жыл бұрын
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@cj6913 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt this was a first take.
@SkyCandyVisuals3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell 👏👏👏bravo encore!
@wjadams23 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell GENIUS!
@wearemany733 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell bravo 👏 Sir Bravo 🎉
@padmanabhabanerjee43343 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell - I am going to give you a lesson you cannot refuse !!
@andrewut7ya5113 жыл бұрын
Lmao re-FUSE
@padmanabhabanerjee43343 жыл бұрын
@@andrewut7ya511 I wanted to do the pun without the stress on the fuse 😁😁. You made it more obvious.
@BuddhaFpv3 жыл бұрын
i was literally just using this vifly smoke stopper and wondering why it was tripping, even on kwads that i knew were good to go...makes sense thanks!
@TheRoybert Жыл бұрын
SpeedyBee stack did this. It sends an initial 12v instead of 9v. That must be causing the stopper to fuzz. Power interrupted BECAUSE of the stopper. Fires up and functions correctly with stopper removed.
@melmar42243 жыл бұрын
Wow Bro some of your intros put a smile on my face when I've had a bad day
@GhostRyderFPV3 жыл бұрын
Part one was published May 22, 2019. That's how you know Josh cares.
@rockcityfpv91173 жыл бұрын
That intro was PRACTICED!
@steigj2 жыл бұрын
nice color grade and post, and that's just the start. Thanks for the excellent info.
@JoshuaBardwell2 жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
@MorganHill82 жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh I bought the smoke stopper after you made the first video about it. I built my first quad and it's tripping every time. I will go check a few of the things you mentioned in this video.
@FPSDROP3 жыл бұрын
Lol, 3:24 when he casually takes out that 9" quad :D made me smile more than intro :D
@fpvnips76573 жыл бұрын
I use a desktop power supply. Start with voltage at 0 and slowly ramp up while watching the current draw. The only way to go for me!
@wearemany733 жыл бұрын
I’m not going to tell JB what’s what cuz he’s the GOAT but maybe the technical term he was searching for was “internal resistance” 🤓 Great Video🙂❤️
@l1nuser3 жыл бұрын
Quality of the intro straight outta hollywood
@joshuayoung62863 жыл бұрын
I always check continuity first…. Most chargers have power output modes you can set voltage and current and will trip if either exceeds the limit. Great alternative to a smoke stopper.
@Dannyk6363 жыл бұрын
ENTERTAINMENT GOAT!!! Amazing skit in the beginning lol
@flowstate_link3 жыл бұрын
I built my lightbulb smoke stoppers by just joining a couple together in series. Have not had any issues with this approach. Basically in series the lightbulb style smoke stopper will work fine. For me this worked well as I started on 4S and then when I moved to 6S primarily I just built a second one. The nice thing about this approach is that it also works with 4S and probably lower cell counts. The big thing for me is it is very large and clear no wondering if the settings are right … just remember 4S one light bulb 6S two lightbulbs 💡
@HolaACchillin3 жыл бұрын
The best intro ever! Top work dude!
@rumbatimba3 жыл бұрын
Wow! You have a career as an "Actor" Awesome! FPV is a Bonus!
@neilfpv3 жыл бұрын
The GodFather! Nice one Joshua! Btw, I just did a continuity test on my quadcopter. There is a continuity. You said it's not good if I'm not mistaken. However, I've been flying this quad whole time. Oh caps!
@scooterfpv88643 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 YES! Love the intro brotherman!!! 🙌10 !!! Darn skippy I use the ViFly smoke stopper on any of my new or rebuilt builds. OR the bulb technique. Something is better than nothing as David says.
@4DCResinSmoker3 жыл бұрын
Quads with low internal resistance (Whoops & 1S Quads) can appear as electrical shorts. While really large quads with high start-up currents will trip a Smoke-Stopper. Trick is to know a enough about electronics so you know what to expect for the "scale" of quad your working on.
@tizio51033 жыл бұрын
The first time I came across this, I was attempting to test motor spin direction on a smoke stopper. Took about a half hour to figure out my dumb mistake.
@MrSofu2 жыл бұрын
A good alternative if you don't want to purchase a smoke stopper is to use a Lab bench power supply, you can regulate the voltage and current you want to feed to the drone and it's very useful for other electronic projects. You can find a simple one for quite cheap.
@tylerharrisfpv50663 жыл бұрын
3:00 BUBBY'S BATTERY
@JustInvertedFpv3 жыл бұрын
I've been building and flying since 2015 and I've never had a smoke stopper. I'm just careful, take my time and inspect all joints with a magnifying glass/reading glasses to make sure there are no shorts or blobs. In all that time I've only fried one esc on an early zmr250 build because I had the esc sandwiched between the plates and left a wire exposed that touched the carbon fiber. I feel like that's a pretty good track record.
@OlegShevtsov512 Жыл бұрын
And probably you avoided sh..ty components
@pattivanblindflug30523 жыл бұрын
Omg! Joshua, did you really plug the Lipo to a 9“ on the bench with props on? Kids, don’t try that at home! 😱
@dscottwilliamson3 жыл бұрын
No props on the bench!
@Gosuminer3 жыл бұрын
Ambitious indeed
@Trial4life3 жыл бұрын
The smoke stopper would have prevented the props from spinning too fast, as he explains at 09:21
@vhfgamer3 жыл бұрын
Oh calm your tits. The drone was upside down. It's fine.
@patriciascheer65313 жыл бұрын
@@Trial4life Yes, that is right! But at 4:11 he removed the smoke stopper!
@stevebienkens383 жыл бұрын
Total badass.. you gonna learn something today.. 😅 love the bot shirt 💪
@PitchoDrone11 ай бұрын
Long time video but ... Best intro ever ! 😁
@douglasyoung39922 жыл бұрын
2021 was a tough year for all of us but you were pretty harsh on that 3157 bulb Josh
@loganishere47603 жыл бұрын
THE INTRO. Amazing.
@leninegarcia83913 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua, I have a problem with my drone. I have a 5 inch quad, it is a lumenier QAV-S jhonny fpv edition, with Iflight 2208 1800kV motors, with 5×4.8×3 props. Every time I fly it, the motors get very hot. Also, when I do flips, it oscillates a little bit and it tries to do a strange mini powerloop. I'm flying with the stock PIDs, stock filters and with rpm filtering. How can I solve this problem? I need help please
@jocthranduil3 жыл бұрын
lol that's the best intro :) I just bought my vifly today :D but I want to make your ultra smoke stopper box with switches ^. ^ Thanks for sharing
@neail54663 жыл бұрын
I believe the whole concept is to minimise the damage, upto a point when it's still repairable- like better than blowing up a trace on the PCB.
@B3NSipodtouch3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great content I can’t wait to meet you this weekend brother!
@GenixxFPV3 жыл бұрын
HOW DARE YOU STEAL A PINK POWER PACK!!!!!-YRZ
@FlyturboKwad3 жыл бұрын
I’mJoshua Bardwell and your going to unlearn something today!
@eraguate3 жыл бұрын
LOL! You will soon get proposals from Hollywood and a nomination to the Oscar's
@KATchUL8rFPV3 жыл бұрын
Soo helpful and soo glad I already realized smoke stoppers are kinda bs lol only 2 I ever had smoked were both connected to smoke stoppers when it happened. At least if using one now people can use this knowledge to help determine if a fault or normal.
@segpie3 жыл бұрын
That was very informative. Excellent video. Thanks Joshua. 👍
@stevefox37633 жыл бұрын
I run my bench from an ATX psu, it shuts down super fast if there is a short / current spike, no need for any other device.
@BengalCatChilli3 жыл бұрын
I have built about 30 quads without a smoke stopper....but I build super slow and use a magnifying glass to check for issues. Lucky I guess :D
@FrancoFlights3 жыл бұрын
Yeaaa it also doesn't always stop the smoke!! I was given a bad ESC from the factory and one of the FETs on it was a little off. I didn't notice until I saw the magic smoke, while using a smoke stopper. I guess It was still pulling under an amp : (
@MCsCreations3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joshua, did you ever tried a 24v light bulb from cars/trucks? It shouldn't be easy to find one, but... Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@DougEfresh.3 жыл бұрын
Good to know thanks. Awesome shirt BTW!!
@pitchitfpv3 жыл бұрын
you can press and hold the on/off button on the vivfly shortsaver 2 until the yellow light turns off and begins to bink and then press the button again to adjust the current sensitivity to low/medium/high and then press and hold it again to exit.
@jas-FPV3 жыл бұрын
The little iflight chargers have a constant current power source, also perfekt as smoke stopper Also you can test a 6s copter with as little as 8 volts. If there is an issue, you will find it anyway….
@BetweenFloors23 ай бұрын
Thank you just the video I was looking for
@jumpstartfpv3 жыл бұрын
I just use a lower cell battery to check the same quad. If the quad runs on 4s I power it up the first time using a 3s. If it's 6s I still use the 3s to power it up. And that tells me if it's the motors and vtx that are causing the smoke stopper to trip or if there is actually something wrong.
@dalemurray68343 жыл бұрын
never used a smoke stopper, never had a problem, double and triple check everything. although I do close eyes and pray when I plug in. might get one after the first burn out.
@MrStreetboy80 Жыл бұрын
I was about to tear apart an esc because of throttle trip! I didn’t even give it a thought it tripping out when I throttle up the motors 😂 I guess a 2 amp fuse smoke stopper wouldn’t like throttle current, it’s an heli s esc so i switched wires to reverse a couple of motors instead of messing around with heli s suite and thought I screwed it up! All motors now spin correct and smoke stopper doesn’t trip just being plugged in so il go with that.
@GordianHubclan2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Loved the Intro With 2x the lightbulb smoke stopper, it should work fine with 6S batteries, or?
@JoshuaBardwell2 жыл бұрын
If they are in series yes.
@chrisB_OG3 жыл бұрын
YES! Excellent video pal
@LeonMatthews3 жыл бұрын
For the light-bulb and the short-circuit, there may be 3A flowing, but also there is a very low voltage across the short circuit - that means low power dissipation (I * V). Most of the voltage is now across the bulb (it has to go somewhere...).
@SirLedfoot943 жыл бұрын
Man, wish I had this video last week, had this exact problem for a bit lol
@boactech30763 жыл бұрын
I love my lab powersupply. It can limit the current 👍
@QSpeedRacer3 жыл бұрын
Yea I had a quad that would trip when esc played music 🎶 its 1A setting was really like 0.8A and would trip. I have that vifly it is so great.. love the power button.. Also have the small single ones
@sburnham33 жыл бұрын
love the background music ....
@VideoBoat3 жыл бұрын
Josh, this same thing had me going, because I hooked up my Roma, to set it up in BF.. What I didn't know is that either BF or the default settings of the FC starts to make the motors sing around 6:20 or so.. it must be a lost beeper locator. it freaked me out because it was fine until it happen at the same time when setting up a friend's Roma.,, That's when I noticed the time similarities..
@jacksonannesley1125 ай бұрын
This video probably saved me hours of headache😂
@renmedalla3 жыл бұрын
I'm confused. Light bulb is in series with the battery and the ESC batt terminals. If there are no shorts in the quad wiring, then the ESC, FC, etc take most of the voltage because altogether they are a bigger load than the bulb and the voltage across the bulb terminals would be too low to make it light up. if there is a short in the components then the voltage drop across the ESC terminals is low to none thus providing almost all the battery voltage across the bulb terminals and making the bulb light up. My point is that the important parameter in choosing a light bulb is the voltage rating, not the wattage.
@tylerelliottFPV3 жыл бұрын
If there is a short it creates an infinite current flow in your flight stack which then makes the light bulb your current limiter. And the light bulb will light up from the current flowing at is rated wattage.
@piotrkojder71776 ай бұрын
I got similar situation with Walksnail MOONLIGT. When I conected my drone with Moonlight VTX smoke stopper bulb flashed bright. When I disconected VTX the bulb stays off during powering up my drone. Moonlight kit consumes 1.4A of current and that amount of additional current makes the bulb flash. Before I figured it out I thought that my VTX is broken or wires are shorted. But my Digital Multimeter didn't show any shorted circuits
@buttertoasttv20663 жыл бұрын
I just love that intro😂
@tomengman3 жыл бұрын
Heh, try this with KISS 4in1 ESC and 2208 motors, the bulb pulses to the ESC boot voice :D Confused me pretty bad for a few seconds..
@360vroomers3 жыл бұрын
Is there any advantage to using a smokestopper compared to a multimeter? TIA
@JoshuaBardwell3 жыл бұрын
Smoke stopper can protect against transient failure modes. Such as if you short circuit the ESC with a screwdriver after plugging in.
@grzesiek95143 жыл бұрын
My friend build his first quad and he had a problem. He checked with multimeter for shorts and then he just plugged in battery, everything worked and he jumped straight into configuring quad in betaflight. But when he tried to spin motors ESC smoked after few seconds. Motors did run for a 2-3 sec and then ESC blow up. ESC is dead and FC is broken also. FC works from USB but not from VBAT or any other pad. What may be the cause?
@Giroworm3D3 жыл бұрын
'who got to you?' loved the intro lol :D
@izzlate3 жыл бұрын
Most epic JB intro ever! :-D
@MrDimm6663 жыл бұрын
Joshua, can you PLEAAASEEEE tell how to add a buzzer and a GPS to the Rekon 3 Nano Long Range? I just bought one, and I do not want to loose it in a bushes. THANKS
@evelfpv3 жыл бұрын
The best intro ever 😂
@kcmoto65073 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice ViFly misspelled blue? Green, no problem. Red, easy. Yellow, nailed it. Blue, “BULE”.
@toddmcclure757va23 жыл бұрын
Mine has done that too...I use the vifly2
@cj6913 жыл бұрын
Voltage drop and current all come in to play. I prefer a multimeter and knowing how to appropriately use it.
@boshuajardwell20973 жыл бұрын
You deserve an Oscar for this intro 🤣🤣🤣
@UNLOCKEDANDOVERCLOCK Жыл бұрын
I'm building my first cinewhoop. After putting everything together do you test it with the smoke stopper first before you plug it into the computer to adjust everything?
@JoshuaBardwell Жыл бұрын
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@TweakRacer3 жыл бұрын
My ViFly Shortsaver v1 is useless. Trips on the 2A setting just powering up a 4S 5" build with a Vista and large low-ESR cap.
@lanegrippy10543 жыл бұрын
The music in the beginning, went into stealth mode for some Zombie killing lol
@numberjuanfpv3 жыл бұрын
My vifly sometimes lie to me. 6s gives false positive. I change to 4s and it doesn't complain. I think less voltage batteries are better for testing with smoke stopper.
@ifjdnedekoc3 жыл бұрын
Now we ready to getter the ones FPV hollywood movie from Joshua Bardwell
@ChainsawFPV3 жыл бұрын
I don't trust a smoke stopper. On quads that have a lot of draw they can trip on start up, making one think there is a problem. I now only use a multi meter. Just a basic one, not one of the crazy complicated ones. I do a continuity test on the XT60 and on each board. It has not failed me yet.
@AdrianoCasemiro3 жыл бұрын
JB has a set of skills...
@theHotpointHoodlum3 жыл бұрын
So scary! I will never be the same
@miquelmarti65373 жыл бұрын
coolest t-shirt ever!
@clazy92222 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem as you with the big quad, but on my 5" with 2a? But nothing happen whktout the smokestopper, it flys normaly, is it possible, that a motor or the smokestopper is beoken or something like that?
@Sek1013 жыл бұрын
I’ve been lucky so far, after building the Tyro 119 along with your guide then later a GepRC MK4 without issue… My question: Will a continuity test with multimeter be sufficient when testing for faults? Or would a smoke stopper be recommended over that?
@JoshuaBardwell3 жыл бұрын
I show the use of a continuity test in this video; it's a very useful approach. But the smoke stopper is additional insurance and is certainly helpful.
@licensetodrive99303 жыл бұрын
The only way that intro could have been better is if it were filmed in a windowless room with nothing on the walls and containing just a table and a chair, in a typical movie interrogation situation with Joshua screaming at the smoke stopper demanding why it wouldn't do as it said it would ;-)
@scu-dub3 жыл бұрын
I just couldn't stop thinking about macgruber lmao.....
@olibpics3 жыл бұрын
@joshua then how to test the esc before burning the motor? Can you test the motor spinning direction with the smoke stopper?
@erlandfpv3 жыл бұрын
Im using multimeter, its say all its normal . Luckily I'm using TBS smoke stopper, once lipo on everything is not turn on, its says somethinf wrong. And then i see my + - in vista to bec its wrong polarity yes, tbs smoke stopper safe me a couple times.
@youraveragemat2 жыл бұрын
damn, that intro is really what ive been thinking the whole week
@farmersfpv54893 жыл бұрын
Loved this intro. Legit had me laughing out loud hard.
@Swissler7773 жыл бұрын
Love this intro!
@maciejklasa67833 жыл бұрын
@1:00 I was convinced you're gonna pull a gun and shoot the bulb right there. :)))
@JaxieDoggo3 жыл бұрын
i had this exact same thing happen to me with the vifly short saver on my first kwad last week. tore it apart twice for somone to tell me what this video explains lol
@wrstew12723 жыл бұрын
JB, you really need to think about cleaning the refrigerator, those food items are probably past their shelf life. Just saying. Fantastic intro
@bbblllaaaj Жыл бұрын
So, if my fc boots up fine and after i solder up my vtx it trips my smoke stopper, that could just be amp draw from the vtx tripping the smoke stopper?
@RCSurf3 жыл бұрын
Im so glad i never built or bought a smoke stopper - just use a multimeter