What's the point of a 4" hexacopter? FLYWOO HEXPLORER LR

[@tehllama42]

My wife: "Why are they making hexacopters? Is that just to sell more motors and props?" True. Love.

[@Raydio6]

😆

[@cj691]

Ha, probably! xD

[@weseng1]

Uhh, look at the price, they practically gave you all the extra stuff for free. I'm betting the price will only go up over time plus it's just too cool not to have. Just clicked your link, take my money. I'm going analogue and save a bit of weight.

[@MrPhilbautista]

If one motor/prop goes out, that kwad comes down. If that happens on a hex, it’ll still be able to fly back to you.

[@itzdr3z1l]

@15:39 “Get a bucket and a mop?” 😂😂😂🤙🏾

[@DaveCFPV]

Great review as ususal! Main advantage of the hex IMO is lower disc load with a heavy 4S LiIon (Besides just looking super cool). The 4" quad is really starting to struggle with a 209g battery. It gets a bit loud and you start loosing efficiency. So you can go for 5" or think out of the box like Flywoo did and just add two more 4" props. The disc area is the exact same +/- a few percent. Anyways, hope mine arrives soon so I can finally test it ! 😁

[@onenerdarmy]

Theoretically the flywoo hex is less efficient as it has to carry around two more escs, more wiring, more mounting hardware, arms etc. Also the associated drag with more arms and prop areas, a more efficient quad that can carry a heavier weight seems more sensible - the hex may be superior in terms of flight stability however.

[@reevolution_fpv]

Hey, I know this video is super old but I fly the hexacopter long range a fair bit with a lith-ion and a naked gopro and it does pretty well. I'm also a racer so I tend to fly pretty quick. But the props in view really ruin the footage. I've been thinking about swapping to the quad version. Do you think I'd get the same flight performance on a lithium ion battery long range? Or should I stick with the hexa? TLDR: Lithium-ion+naked gopro for long-range. Better on hexa or quad?

[@alexdefelice2448]

"Is this a better aircraft?" In my humble opinion... yes. I have both, and the quad really struggles once you strap on the li-ion pack (to the point where the motors overheat badly without rpm filtering). The hex can carry the big li-ion pack and the SMO 4k effortlessly, and does great even in breezy conditions. The quad's only real advantage is that you can keep it under 250g, at least when running an 850mah lipo.

[@trevorimpulsebuyguy6398]

Basically the point is it's cool. Joshua sounds like a kid in a candy store when he looks at the 6in1 esc.

[@bassmechanic237]

Alice Cooper on the rcgroups forums says to improve gps, you should plug in your quad and leave it outside for an hour or so in order to give the GPS unit enough time to update its satellite almanac. Apparently the GPS units almanac is blank when it ships. So if you give it an hour or so to fill its address book, it will acquire a lot faster from then on.

[@avgvstvs96]

Interesting information, thanks for sharing

[@robertdavis3788]

I'll put surprotector on my porch with cookies n milk and ill babysit it for the hour for.ya

[@AsylumET]

You should power your GPS alone via the balance port on your battery pack and then when it has a lock which should be fairly quickly, then you can power up the FC and other electronics.

[@ryeyoo]

The inclusion of a table of contents in your recent videos are 👌

[@Rcschim]

I can think of one more reason for the hex: more stable in rougher longrange conditions, in gusty wind? Because that's the one downside of cruising those new tiny drones, if it's not really calm, it doesn't feel like the magic carpet ride that I aim for to get my daily out of body experience ;) Greets, Mario

[@joaquinluka3997]

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[@kobebrayden9639]

@Joaquin Luka instablaster ;)

[@joaquinluka3997]

@Kobe Brayden Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site on google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now. Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.

[@joaquinluka3997]

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[@kobebrayden9639]

@Joaquin Luka No problem :D

[@tango_sierra8608]

Idk why but your vid style is so addicting to watch. Even stuff I have zero interest in (this product) I have to at least play in the background while I multitask. Props to you and your editor

[@tomtrethowan3917]

Wow great magic trick, dunno how you pulled that off

[@jamis2341]

Point is to be awesome! Also, the analog version seems to get GPS super fast. The length of time is 100% linked to interference from Vista.

[@SQuiDFPV]

Yeah I get 11 before I pull my googles down, can't get the blue tooth working though

[@TheZolon]

Analog Flywoo converted to DJI Vista, when I did the conversion, I put the GPS on the softserial and the DJI on the uart. No drop outs, and I get a lock in around 45 seconds now.

[@mooredge]

Just want to say you're the best Bardwell. Keep up the great content.

[@gargolaconrad3188]

I just got mine in the mail today, (The Frame) Thank GOD it comes with instructions for assembling the frame. It has a bunch of pieces, but comes nicely pack in a plastic reusable box; with extra pieces. I got the idea for the motors that I'm going to use on this from Scott Tomlinson, and this thing will have a ton of power while using a Li-ion battery.

[@Schradermusic]

I love how excited you are about the 6-in-1 ESC. Keep doing what you do, Joshua! :)

[@Gierzu1]

Hi, after your last roundup with those 4" long range quads I decided to do something with my own GPS setup and I have twisted tx/rx wires together and VCC/GND lines separately. Than I have put them into the shink tube where they were just beneath my VTX. Belive it or not but now GPS is locking very quickly and I have also noted the most satelites locked with this setup - over 20 during very foggy day. My GPS is BN-220 by the way.

[@Flash-FX]

I slid some copper solder wick braided "sleeve" over the GPS wires on my 4" LR...In effort to reduce the sat fix time on the GPS, minimal improvement. Then I discovered the analog transmitter was powered to the 5v out. Fixed that too. Glad to see they are trying to make improvements. Maybe perfection by the time the 4"octocopter comes out??

[@parker1ray]

That grey overcast look is what I don't miss most about East Tennessee all winter long!

[@FPFPV]

13:06 Interesting mounting solution. I was kinda running out of space on the top plate with a 20˚ naked GoPro mount. Should probably start to mount em horizontally as well.

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic flying, Joshua!!! Great review! 😃 FINALLY we have a 6 in 1 esc! There's a beautiful 5" hexacopter frame on Banggood for a long time (or at least there was!) and I always wanted to build it! 😂 Well... We'll see! But, definitely... This is the way! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@MagicFPV]

When you said “Wanna see a magic trick” I got so excited I instantly ‘liked’ the video! 😂 🪄 👍

[@licensetodrive9930]

I saw someone mention a really good point about having an AIO that can control 6 motors - if you run it on a quad it means you have 2 spare motor outputs you can switch to if you happen to break one or two.

[@BOTGRINDER]

i did 4km on a 650 4s with it, i was pretty shocked

[@canceledczech457]

Bot!!!!!!!!!!!🍁🔥🍁🔥🍁

[@JS-op5gk]

You can't flash INav in Speedybee App, but you can change INav settings The App can Connect via cable If supported by Phone There is a WiFi Adaptor (for Speedybee)

[@dropkickjohny]

I haven't flown a hex in years! This is awesome, but also Flywoo trolling everyone to copy them like the lr4! I'm totally getting one!

[@stone_fpv2599]

I think it is perfect for when you got a limited budget and want to do long-range cruising with a Gopro and Freestyle without a GoPro just for fun. Great Video as always.

[@zaplocked]

Reminds me when the real old cams had "gps friendly" versions you could buy when you put them on your drone

[@krzysiekk3823]

What were those cams doing? I've never heard of such a feature

[@zaplocked]

@@krzysiekk3823 Making noise Apparently

[@Vyscera]

Have those OSD issues been solved from the quadcopter version that you mentioned? Can't find any info on this.

[@jlarson42]

Definitely interesting, different than the usual toys we fly. Seems built for cruising with a naked gopro and the heavier Li-ion pack. To freestyle it I think would lead to disaster the first real crash. The 4" Shocker was awesome for freestyle, looked like so much fun ripping around your yard. Happy flying. 👍💖🤓

[@carrboro_chapelhillfpv2442]

I love hexacopters especially Y configuration, I like the way that one looks as well.

[@blessedfpv7357]

The star of the show was how tickled Joshua got when looking at that 6 in 1 ESC. 🤣😂 That's pure joy.

[@narnasqueneth]

I love it- I'm just working on getting my 2.5 inch Tomoquads EVO-H Hex set up so if she flies good, this may be my next purchase. 6in1 esc, man that makes things easier as I'm curently using two 4in1s stacked....

[@Fpvfreaky]

@15:39 why was a bucket and mop doing out in the path way jb.?🤔😂

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I have children. Stuff gets put everywhere.

[@Fpvfreaky]

@@JoshuaBardwell oh yeah fair point 👍🏽😉 stay safe bro and your family.

[@carltongarley6735]

This guy JB, is on another level. Wow.

[@lexduke5321]

I would like to see a quik 5 rotors test !

[@terminsane]

if its the vista processor interfering with the gps, you could try testing various capacitors across the 5v/gnd, (tiny ones, not the fat power supply caps) You could try adding a grounded metal mesh between the gps & vista, if you think its RF interference.

[@simonedag93]

Hello ! Thanks for your fantastc video! Is it possible to move battery on bottom of the hexa? Or i get some problem?

[@tourbiker3509]

It's like training wheels for Astral Projection! love it.

[@scottcarman1198]

JB, How come the analog Hex comes with the F4 chip but the DJI version comes with the F7. That means we're back to the same problems the original Explorer has with soft serial, less uarts and no barometer. I looked on RDQ, BG and Flywoo and the all said the same. That's messed up

[@Aarons14bugs]

I am really excited to hear your solutions for the gps issues you mention. I love the Tarsier but it ruins the gps reception, and right now is a big problem in my Explorer LR (quad).

[@SDUA_Dennis]

What do you think about analog drone and install split-style camera? This way you also get footage you enjoy watching afterwards

[@onnovannoort7690]

Seeing all the problems with gps not locking,....coming from fix wings and inav long range flying, I know that you want as much separation from a 900ghz system, problems are much lesser with 2.4ghz systems. So maybe worth testing, assure as much separation between the antenna and gps, or setup with express lrs or tracer on 2.4 Hope this helps.

[@ajmaintaquir-6896]

Awesome!!! Can I buy the parts separately? I mean 6 in 1 esc!!? And also the other parts?

[@2daleech]

I wonder; if you were able to replace the two prop blades w/ 6 prop blades would the hexcopter be more stable and have more 'grunt' when carrying around the go pro. Would putting 6 bladed props truly help? Would changing the 2 prop system to a 3 or 4 bladed prop system help?

[@calebgrefe8922]

Could one theoretically put larger motors on the center two motors with larger props and smaller motors one the front and back with smaller props? for.... efficiency? and just because I' m curious.

[@MartianLivesMatter]

Remember the RotorX Raiju. That little thing was a beast and ahead of its time.

[@ckfpv]

Ok got a ? Cant you use that lith ion batt. On a 7 inch long range drone ?wonder how much flight time you would get,i want to do a long range build but with these guys coming out, i just dont know what to do ,i do want a 7 inch LR

[@Reingekotet]

Its an amazing drone but I hate the fact that you can see the motors and props in the googles. So I think I am gonna go with the Flywoo Explorer. The problem is it is not available...

[@fpvcrumudgeon4576]

Is the hexacopter any quieter than the quad at cruise speeds? Seems the main benefit is load carrying ability and prop loading similar to a 5".

[@shawnford7067]

One possible issue could be the pins between the ESC and FC that sucks cannot change the FC on old LR with the new FC to fix the issues with old FC. Unless I am wrong I am new to the hobby

[@AndrewBlanche]

Hey take it as a plus to have a *-1 esc, so you have two extra escs as spares for normal drones.

[@KG4JYS]

I bought one of these, fun enough to fly. Short flight times are my biggest complaint on small quads. I'm running it with an 1800mah 4s.

[@sgelagaev]

What flight time you have with 1800?

[@KG4JYS]

@@sgelagaev I'll have to run the whole battery out and let you know. I'm pretty new to drones so that's a tall order for me. I did discover that Betaflight is a poor choice for long range drones. Minimal GPS support, broken RTH, no support for lidar/sonar sensors. Flywoo has inavflght builds available for their quad f745 explorer so hopefully hey'll follow up with an inav build for the hex f745. Inav seems to have all the stuff from beta plus sensor/navigation support. I think that's the big mistake flywoo made with this product; shipping it with a firmware designed for acro/freestyle when the hardware is clearly setup for long range...

[@amachalaamachalpu9366]

so I want a long range cinematic platform with 25min+ flight what is the best between the tyro 129 or this hexacopter ? also i am a beginner with mini drone ,

[@marsmachine1156]

The glee to see a 6 in 1 ESC! 🥰🤓 I love your videos! Happy holidays Joshua! 🎅🏻🎄🌟

[@rf-cinematic1576]

It's an interesting copter with great new features. But in terms of 4 inch LR freestyle... what is about the iflight chimera LR with the 3800 KV motor? Is it better for freestyle?

[@SusiSpecial]

The best performance increase I got, is using 3,3V instead of 5V for GPS. Nearly any GPS support 3,3V. COmbin this with Ublox offline assist, you receive sats much much faster.

[@GTARC_au]

6 in 1 ..... Way cool!! WELL DONE FLYWOO!!!!!

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

f4 still comes on analog version.. Is it worth it buying the caddx hd version to get F7 then adding analog camera and vtx

[@cj691]

I am not sure if it was noticed or covered in your video and I just missed it when I watched it, but heads up to other analog buyers, it comes with an F411 instead of the F745 disappointingly.

[@dauntlessfpv]

Can it fly if you cut one of the motors?

[@RADERFPV]

Yes, in theory. Though I have a feeling the flight controller and/or ESC would go skitzo if it lost a motor. I'd like to see this tested somehow.

[@luis_gbs]

Would a hexacopter with the 2 middle props inverted be good for 3d? I mean not this specific model, more an overall question?

[@kayakbobkayak]

Looks like they listened to you for the quad .Preorder Explorer LR 4 V2 HD Micro Long Range FPV Ultralight Quad Bnf w/ Vista / Nebula Pro F745 BGA FC GPS V2.0

[@ericphalin85]

Can you do a tuning video for a HEX I have the FLYWOO Firefly Nano HEX and would love some tuning tips. It is a lot of fun to fly just really want to get it dialed in for light freestyle/cinematic flights. Love all the videos!!!!

[@aowi7280]

Its an air taxi for elves.

[@bohan9957]

Is it a good idea to have the Immortal T antenna so close to the carbon frame?

[@gregoryc8741]

Hey JB, would love to hear your thoughts on dji being added to the entity list by us department of commerce. Do you think it will have a large impact on their involvement of the progression of fpv?

[@VdubSPAZ]

Curious take off the bi props and put on trip props or quad props and see if that changes the hexacopter's flight characteristics.... Sometimes bi props have a tendency to act weird or balancing issues

[@upmostbeast2321]

Apparently there are a lot of issues with GPS with regards to the Split/Tarsier style hd/fpv cameras. If you could find a way to help with those that would be awesome since I want to record HD footage for a micro longrange quad, but I don't have DJI and don't want to shell out for a naked GoPro.

[@TheEviling]

I think it would give a lot more stability for cinematic flying, although most of that is done by the action-cameras these days. And with hex-copters you can "loose" up to two motors and still have enough control left to save the kwad, which might be cheaper in the long run.

[@Tuidkskiwjdhdbd]

Thanks josh im a new fan of your and just getting into this and trying to find what to buy

[@3eggerfpv397]

Now that there's a 6in1 ESC, do yourself a favor and build a freestyle hex. Ripping a hex with the right motors and props for freestyle is a blast!

[@bobolishis7]

Your flying has improved massively. Not that you were bad before.

[@jeremyjensen2772]

Yeah I noticed the difference as well.

[@DrOne-sw6oz]

Off topic Question Master JB: I can't find it anywhere but when I'm flying on 3S everything is fine quad fly smooth with no problems but if I change to 4S my ESC's starts hitting/kicking motors with a short impulses (very irregular discharge like). Any ideas? Obviously capacitors installed all the settings checked million times .....?

[@knarftrakiul3881]

What if you stepped up the motors to next size?

[@MrCaptainnemo]

How about the original arm configuration but an octocpter?

[@JonathanStanley]

The ESC (not FC) takes 6S it seems... time for experiments with either throttle limit or lower kV motors...

[@tRu028]

Great looking shirt!!

[@kofiddleboy]

15:39 when you crash in the snow you get that WAQ (wet ass quad)

[@slinktus]

Would love to know if the hex would be better than the quad version for someone who is looking to get into the Hobby? Sounds like the Hex might be a little more stable?

[@RealKushrage]

0:18 very well placed :D

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It helps to have a grid on your work surface LOL

[@RealKushrage]

@@JoshuaBardwell yeah I noticed that xD

[@longboarderebright]

which way do the middle props spin?

[@salukikev]

Did I miss the link to the 20mm 6-ESC Flight control? I guess you'd have to get the whole multicopter, not just the PCB?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I asssume they will sell the 6 in 1 ESC separately but I don't have a link for it today.

[@kkuhn]

I've added some updates (in comments) to my video on how to fix the chimera 4 GPS issues if you are interested.

[@JonWheeler84]

I love your channel. New to flying drones. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Welcome to the hobby!

[@JonWheeler84]

Thank you! I’ll check out your patreon tonight!

[@SuphiKaner]

I wonder if putting a 3 blade propeller on the flywoo quad would give a small boost in power without losing to much fly time

[@Enderkruemel]

I like this 6in one Esc, also i like Hex Setups, becourse my oldest quad was a zmr 250 frame But i upgradet it to a custom hex. Also it Runs very old and cheap emax mt2204 2300Kv Motors (6" 3-blade) and Simonk 12A Esc flashed to blheli. But i use this on 4s 3p li-ion pack and also a naze32 whith Barometer and GPS at 2k/1k And its a Good longrange copter now, it has 40min flighttime. I didnt think this was postible whith this old Parts, But i was surprised that it can Fly so long. 35 min flighttime whith the runcam 3s on board. Only 540g whithout the Batterie, for a 6" hex a very Good wight i think.

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

real curious flight time on li-ion vs quad

[@STEMwithMrDuda]

Does anyone know how loud it is? The Explorer LR Quadcopter is supposedly pretty quiet.

[@tonyhouk9047]

On their website it says the esc is 16x16 mounting. Am I wrong? Tony

[@JoshuaBardwell]

No you are correct. I misspoke in the video. The ESC is about the size of a 20mm but it has 16mm mounting holes.

[@far1002]

Wouldn’t it pull less current from the batteries. Because of the 2 extra motors ?

[@lesterg3330]

I don't think so. Kv value and props usually determine the amount of current being used by the motor. With two more motors to power I would think it's pulling more. However with the extra two motors, you can carry a heavier payload and you could still fly home if one or maybe two of the motors were to fail.

[@northernflyer5311]

Great to have a barometer, for iNav, but also need magnetometer, so probably a m8n, 880 gps.

[@henkdevries2971]

☝️ This should be higher in the comment section; just a GPS & barometer (unfortunately) isn't enough for iNav multicopter 😕

[@SkyCandyVisuals]

how much voltage can that 6n1 handle? if its 6s capable then i would buy it and put it on a bigger motor frame cause that lil guy isn't ready for freestyle and in botgrinders video it looked as though it was struggling in the wind while doing long range. a 4s 850 to1050 isn't even enough to do long range. by the time you reach your destination your battery is dying. Change the motors(2306) and frame to a bigger drone with 1500 to 2k mah and then add the naked cam for long range and you have a winner but can it handle 6s I guess im headed off on your link to see...

[@SkyCandyVisuals]

Well im back from flywoo website and the F7411 Hex 6n1 esc is available separately and not badly priced around 33 bucks but sadly it only handles up to 4s. wah wah wah. so i don't think ill be buying it although i kinda want to just because it would make building a hexacopter so much easier. if i did get one it would definitely get 2004 motors instead of the 1404s but the esc is only rated at 13a 15peak so yea that just not enough i don't think for what i wanna do. but theres only one way to find out ...")

[@johncarold]

Hi Josh very interested in the helicopter idea, but I just am not sure, I think it's definitely worth the look.

[@Mbsfpvchannel]

Hex’s are so cool. Stable camera as long as its high enough. I love them lol.

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

I don't have a Vista my explorer doesn't get sats easily. Sometimes the entire day. Lingest been 2days on for hours lol.. I take antenna off to the side. No cell phone or gopro near it. Then seems like I might get 5 to 7 in 5mins. But drops below 5 on flights

[@DougEfresh.]

This is really pretty cool. I ended up getting the Eachine Shadow Fiend, still waiting for it but will be here Monday. Did you happen to review this? I just don't recall you reviewing it but I've been watching so many that I might have missed it.

[@patreontestarea8591]

i wish there was a hexacopter that weighs under 240g with battery, would be perfect for practicing acro for beginners due to its stiffness though it can be very very light without drifting like crazy. really like this hex anyways! maybe if the insurance and so on will be easier and cheaper by 2021 here. nice review as always

[@h2o-fpv623]

nice looks really cool for long range great video.

[@Director-M]

I'm trying to get Betaflight 4.3 running on my Flywoo Hexplorer Analog but I can't get GPS to work with 4.3. Anyone have any idea why? Cheers!

[@db-iv5tu]

Not sure why you didn't mention it during the Speedybee Bluetooth part but you don't need bluetooth to use the app, you can also use a USB cable. I have an OTG adapter with USB-C and a micro USB cable always with me on the field to be able to quickly change settings from my Android phone. No need for bluetooth, just a $5 adapter. And it works with every Betaflight quad.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I didn't mention it because this is a video about the quad not about speedybee.

[@db-iv5tu]

@@JoshuaBardwell Ah ok gotcha! It sounded in the video like bluetooth is the only option to use Speedybee and I was a little confused by this, that's all :D