Jumper T16 | Finally A Serious Contender From Jumper

[@WillWill56]

This looks like the ultimate general purpose radio! It'll handle whatever crazy flying machine you throw at it with ease. Also in regards to potentiometer gimbals wearing out, I've found that it is absolutely the plastic stick-centering mechanism that wears out, not the potentiometer itself, as long as the manufacturer hasn't cheaped out on the potentiometer. I've had the same modified Devo 10 radio for at least 5 years, the stick-centering mechanism had visible divots/indents from where it was making contact. I added metal plates to it and now the sticks are back to centering just fine.

[@Chatsu8o]

Yeah I'm sure it's all down to, like most things, quality (of the pot and the surrounding hardware). I've had a JR radio for the better part of 20 years that still works great, and is still very accurate. And one should also consider that most of us don't put a radio through JB levels of everyday use.... BUT you also tend to get what you pay for and since everyone is so amazed that the T16 costs what it costs..... corners may have been cut in this area, and on that basis his concerns are probably legit.

[@sganzerlag]

Joshua, considering how potentially boring a tx review video can be, I am extremely impressed at how entertaining you managed to make this one. You really have a talent for this sort of thing. Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.

[@Rcmodelgeeks]

FR Sky scored with the X9D because they had the ergonomics of the JR radio. The T16 will be successful as it has the feel of Futaba.

[@Mateyhv1]

Yes, the T16 is clearly a Futaba copy.

[@LOVE-of8iw]

This a rare moment. The Bardwell is excited over something. Im sold. Thanks Joshua.

[@bigfella6629]

Yes his enthusiasm for the T16 helped to make up my mind as well..lol

[@scottfirman]

I have a bridge in China I will review for you, want to buy it? Watch Out on these things, they are bricking when using a SD card in them. Save your money.

[@bigfella6629]

​@@scottfirman Funny you should say that...

[@adamhixon]

Well the original Taranis was a rip-off (and upgrade) of the Turnigy 9x which as I recall is the radio that openTX was originally written for (called open9x at the time). And back then many people were calling the Turnigy 9x a rip-off of the JR PCM9X. Frankly, at a glance its hard to tell the difference between an early Taranis and the JR PCM9X. Also, Frsky got their start by selling TX modules (not full radios) running their ACCST protocol which is functionally a ripoff of Futaba's FASST protocol at a much MUCH lower price point than the Futaba was back then. This industry has a long history of cloning and then whining about being cloned. Kinda hard to care at this point.

[@LOVE-of8iw]

It seems like the only rule is: If youre gonna clone do it well.

[@trt969]

Interesting...

[@solentlifeuk]

What interesting post ... Yes the 9x did cash in on the old JR form for the case and of course JR introduced the plug in module with the Propo series back in the late 80's - buts that where similarities end. Second comparing FrSky ACCST to FAAST is to be honest a bit off !! You only have to compare the hopping protocol and the number slots it uses ... Futaba in fact had to keep re-inventing theirs to try and keep up !! As did Spektrum when the two slot protocol was shown to be limited.

[@adamhixon]

@@solentlifeuk Some of the early ACCST receivers could even be bound to Futaba radios. I'm not sure if this was a deal worked out with Futaba or a rip-off. But I'm guessing the latter. And as for the JR, yes I was talking about to look and feel of the radio. I wouldn't say that a 2.4 ghz was a rip off of a 72 mhz tech. Ultimately I'm glad all this cloning goes on. As a kid (or even young adult) I could never afford to get into RC. All I could do was look at magazines and drool. It was Chinese competition that allowed me to do it. The Turnigy 9x was my first radio and I loved it for many years. Now I have a Taranis and love it as well.

[@MeshJedi]

frSky actually bought old used molds for the radio case from JR. so they actually had the right to use them. so it would be JR not the Turnigy anyway.

[@ghrey8282]

I haven't watched your channel for awhile, but Bruce mentioned your comments Re:Jumper.... Well done sir! My primary radio is still a Turnigy TH-9X. It's......fine....... for a general purpose radio for me. But I am a genuinely terrible pilot. Also I use the one radio for everything. Boats, motor and sail, Cars .:all:. , Aircraft of all types. When it finally falls apart, I have no idea what I will replace it with...

[@richardlong3615]

The reason the X9D needs a balance bar is because its based on a 35 MHz JR which had a long telescopic ariel which balanced the radio. Now the X9D doesn't need that ariel as its 2.4 GHz and so it doesn't balance without a balance bar whereas the Futaba this radio is based on was always 2.4 GHz and so it balances.

[@afrog2666]

Aerial* Ariel is a mermaid, and a cleaning product hehe. #GrammaticalPedantrySyndrome

[@richardlong3615]

Thancs foor contribooting soo "usefuly" too thhe debatte.

[@beaudupre3248]

Being able to rotate the gimbal outward to compensate for the natural outward motion of your thumbs while pushing up. Absolute genius! I'd bet my quad fleet they didn't invent it, but kudos to Jumper for incorporating it. Bravo.

[@LivyuFPV]

The JR radio case that the Frsky licensed/copied(i don't know which) was designed with 27/72 MHz antennas that were very long so the neck strap position was perfect for that extra antenna weight but when 2.4G came out that extra weight vanished so they needed to move the mounting position at least this is my idea : )

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I think you're right.

[@solentlifeuk]

FlySky copied the JR case ... not FrSky .... for the 9x radio ... which even today is a very good starter radio once reflashed with er9x. People also forget that OpenTx was hived off from er9x .... to buddy up with FrSky.

[@LivyuFPV]

@@solentlifeuk i knew it as Turnigy the 9x. And yes I know OpenTX started off right then...

[@romolomanfredini5447]

@@solentlifeuk No OpenTX existed before FrSKY, it was forked from gruvin9x a fork of er9x for the gruvin9x board (an upgrade board for the turnigy 9x based on ATMEGA 2560 ). It also supported before frsky the Sky9X board (another ugrade board for the turnigy 9x (board based on ARM processor).

[@power-max]

I just bought the Pro model on amazon for $120 w/ a f.port receiver, and they have pretty much addressed everything you mentioned except maybe the position of the sliders. The unit I got has hall effect gimbals, an internal receiver with a slot for an external module. So 14:02 Yup they listened!

[@DaNuke1810]

For $120 you have the link

[@power-max]

@@DaNuke1810 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0834NDYDJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I actually paid $129.99 but it looks like it's out of stock now. Don't know when/if it's coming back, sorry.

[@BradB111]

I ended up with the X10S, love it. Even more so now that they have fixed the screen issue (you can now set it to go off after a set time). Would be great if it was a little smaller but its not the end of the world. Having said that this T16 looks brilliant.

[@quintinraymond1210]

I don’t need a battery sucking color screen, I fly quads, I don’t need to watch tv while I am flying, however if it had some sort of playback function so that I could watch my video footage on it. Just saying

[@tiagotiagot]

Imagine if a controller came with a video receiver...

[@BenjaminJTobiasRies]

@@tiagotiagot walkera f4?

[@aintgotnobody5518]

@@tiagotiagot tbs tango

[@caribbeanfpv2560]

Tango and mount dvr ..easy plugs right in trsiner port. Really easy ...

[@Boborjan1986]

Well, basically you watch an old TV standard to see where you fly your quad, so... But got your point of view.

[@DrDiff952]

If you drill a hole in the case you can add the 6 position switch to the Taranis XD9 Plus SE

[@rbrazil1000]

I have done that

[@jurikristjouw]

@@rbrazil1000 me2

[@tehllama42]

For those that are on tight budgets but want the multiprotocl capability, it's incredibly hard to beat the functionality of a QX7 and the iRangeX IRX4 Multiprotocol module. I can (and do) run everything but CRSF on this, net investment is $165 (using sale pricing) for the radio, M7 Hall effect gimbals, and the IRX4 module, and I couldn't be happier with this setup. The only point I'm torn on is when I have to switch to CRSF, I'll probably find myself also having to consolidate to my FrSky receivers and CRSF receivers instead of running my whymsical mix of FlySky and FrSky on cheap quads.

[@tehllama42]

@@shadeshiest22 Latency and dynamic link quality. 900MHz is the sole feature the R9M offers, with the same limitations of SBUS, and as soon as I'm investing in a new module AND receivers for multiple quads to justify the expense, I'll make the full investment for lower latency (as I'm primarily a race pilot), and accept improved quality for long range adventures with my expensive 7" rigs.

[@tehllama42]

@@shadeshiest22 FWIW - I have definitely considered that, and it's still tempting... but I'm considering going to that for multiple reasons, and the answer to both of those is CRSF. At the point where I have 25 quads, most of them fairly expensive racers and 7" LR setups, the cost difference is almost in the noise.

[@ArionRaine]

The tilting gimbals have been around since the 90's, possibly longer. Futaba, Multiplex and JR all used them. Jeti and Weatronic may have even used them. Futaba currently uses them in their 18 series controllers. The T16 gimbals are a straight rip of the Futaba 18 series gimbals. Also, the pots are high end Alps..the same used in Futaba. They will last a lot longer than a typical cheap pots used in most inexpensive controllers. I have an original non plus Taranis from the very first batch. Its like #140 or something. I did not replace the gimbals until about a year ago, and the pots were still fine after thousands of hours. The longevity of the pots also depends on how well you care for the device. Keep it away from dust and dirt to prevent the posts getting dirty. Yes, dust and dirt WILL make its way into the radio and pots, and the gimbals are the primary path for this to happen. I have never seen people that take less care of their radios than I have seen in the mini quad world. It's no surprise they wear out on them. I have also seen the internals of the T16...while they look fine build quality wise on the electronic assemblies, the plastics overall appear as if they need some attention. This is apparent even on the exterior. The fit and finish overall seems to be lacking. However, these are minor issues considering its a $150, and would be happy to own/use one regardless (as I will when they arrive). Lets face it. The Taranis isn't exactly the highest quality radio either! It has similar deficiencies in the plastics. That goes for some of the "high-end" radios as well. Some of the offerings from Spektrum, Futaba, JR dont exactly feel like a prime radio either.

[@3props_does]

Haven't seen you this giddy about something in a while. Great review, and funny as well.

[@trevorbrasch4595]

This is totally a Futaba themed Tx, with extra trim switches, layout, attractive look. Of note, the angled gimbals feature was on Futaba 9Z (from the 90s?) and I'm pretty sure all of Futaba's Z models since have it as well. It's a very nice feature. Great review...maybe something to consider to replace my X9E

[@Krizon4]

I am sure that someone already commented on that, but nevertheless. The balance bar is needed only for radios that were built for 40mhz / 75mhz analog. Those had long metal antenna that balanced the radio. With switch to 2.4ghz, balance bar was needed for those old design, converted radios, such as Taranis, using old JR molds. Radios designed for 2.4ghz from scratch usualy do have the eyelet in correct place already.

[@robincalvin9945]

One thing to take into consideration is that the Jumper TX most likely won't support FrSky's upcoming ACCESS radio-protocol (which probably will be exclusive to FrSky's own transmitters). I'm guessing that it might take some time before someone eventually reverse-engineers that protocol too but in the meantime it might be a wise decision to stick to FrSky's native transmitters if you care about future compatibility with FrSky's recievers.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

If you want ACCESS then FrSky is the way to go. But if you are okay with D16 then you'll have options for a long time.

[@Evilroco]

You make me feel good about still using a Futaba for my FASST and FRsky D8 quads ,which never fails to draw comments from my flying buddies .

[@MBrulla]

Leaving the teardown for Livyu was one of the classiest things I've seen done in the FPV KZbin community. Respect, Joshua. Great review and really hit the points that people needed to hear. Appreciate pointing out the similarities and "plagiarism" therein.

[@Barakrante]

As Linux user for almost 17 years now, I am also an android user on my phone, I know the reliability of the open sources, problems are fixed much quicker and you have the control of your material. Open sources, in my opinion, is a world where everything is possible. The community owns open sources, these big companies can use it, change the code but they have to give back the changed code to the open sources community. I love it .

[@yoshitakamizuta2920]

One major disadvantage of T16 is BF Lua does not work with the multi module. Even hacking the original Lua source to recognize T16 it will not work. You need to buy XJT module to use BF Lua. Also Companion dose not support T16, so it is not able to customize the firmware, like “No Heli” and so on. It seems T16 had copied the hardware of X10S (maybe this is another reason why Frsky companied), so it is possible to flash T16 with X10S firmware with minor issues (pots and sliders are reversed). If you flash T16 with X10S firmware no need to hack Lua source to work, but still need to use XJT module.

[@patrickcolclough2423]

That's quite a big deal, surprised Mr B didn't reference that.

[@SomeTechGuy666]

"Also Companion dose not support T16, so it is not able to customize the firmware, like “No Heli” and so on" At 12:30 he says the T16 uses the same Companion software that the other OpenTx devices use.

[@jeffer9499]

I must admit I would think Jumper would of learned to launch with hall effect gimbals already. The TS8G and the T12 both came out with "plus" models with them... Well maybe the do know what they are doing and getting us to buy more radios... I have a standard T12 and I have an X9D plus. both are good. But I do like the size of the X9D for flying but at the same time I love how small the T12 is to pack into a backpack. Great video very funny ending . Thanks for all you do

[@IceCreams62]

You can found the gimbal screw for example in the 'old' Futaba FX-32 and FX-40 Txs

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I KNEW IT

[@3DAlexzzz]

Or the Futaba T18MZ, the jumper T16 pretends to be a copy of the 18MZ..... (the outside)

[@IceCreams62]

Yes, all the Futaba Txxxx have this feature

[@Rmaia3d]

Alexzzz Exactly. This radio case is a carbon copy of the T18MZ from Futaba, which is their flagship radio costing 2000 plus bucks (yes, that’s 2k plus). But the Taranis X9D case is also a carbon copy from the JR X9303 radio, so nothing new there...

[@ojkolsrud1]

About the gimbals, I've been using my Flysky i6 pretty steadily for about two years, and they're still working perfectly - no twitching in BF. I wish people would see that this radio is actually pretty good. Once you flash it to 10 channels and with various other useful features, it's almost perfect. The T16 does seem like a pretty damn good radio, though!

[@llickmogan]

I use the fsi6 aswell batties last week's easy to setup n use ive flashed mine to 14ch never had a failsafe in 11 months

[@ojkolsrud1]

@@llickmogan Did you have a stroke while writing that? Haha! I'm glad you like it too, though! I didn't know they had released a 14ch version of the firmware.

[@llickmogan]

@@ojkolsrud1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHOnoGqsi6eAZrs

[@llickmogan]

@@ojkolsrud1 no stroke bro

[@walt5797]

Thanks for the presentation Josh, I understood everything except the part after, you're gonna learn some thing today.

[@BenjaminJTobiasRies]

I don't see the advantage of giant color screens eating you battery, especially for FPV pilots. It looks nice, but I barely even need the screen of my qx7 in the field.

[@LOVE-of8iw]

The advantage is you look cooler than everyone else which is the most important thing in FPV. Haha. Jk.

[@guystucker4738]

I couldn’t figure out why the screen on QX7 was so bad. Of course, f-ing battery life. I’m a idiot.

[@tehllama42]

Yup - to me the ultimate hack would be adding a switch to the screen input power internally on the radio and wiring that to one of the harder to use momentary switches. When you don't need the screen, tap the switch and toggle power off to the screen. When you need it, bump the same switch and you get the awesome screen

[@trt969]

Yeah, it is beautiful for sure but we don't need it... We really don't.

[@spinymonk1590]

The screen looks great , even though you don’t look at the screen while flying fpv , we do spend at lot of time using the screen when setting up models ,it looks so much better to use 👌

[@short5stick]

Hey You can select 8ch for lower latency Josh. After you select FrSky D16 select D16 and change it to D16 8 channel.

[@nom4dmkd]

It is good that you got spring there. Here in Sweden it is still winter :)

[@MUNKYFPV]

It’s funny the qx7 “feels” right to me because I started with one and radios like the x9d feel like the gimbals are too close together so I think it’s what you get used to. I got lucky and got my qx7 cheap when they first came out, then put Hall effect gimbals in it about 6 months later and in total it cost me less than the cheapest standard qx7 I can find now.

[@FPVXP]

@JB... You keep saying '' nerd like me'' could I offer that you're a geek rather? Cause geek is the new chic. You are presentable, you don't drool all over yourself and you almost but no quiet a racluse. So I bid you don't do yourself an injustice 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@edguix]

I’ve always felt nerd equated to people who are really good at science subjects or STEM subjects, while geek represents someone who is into the niche art such as tabletop games, fantasy or sci fi shows movies, games. In fact I’ll even say a person can be nerd and a geek. I don’t think it has anything to do with being presentable or not.

[@FPVXP]

Certainly an interesting perspective and I'm sure there are sevaral perceptions of how to classify an individual as a ''nerd". I imagine my perceptions of a nerd where fashioned by 90's American TV 🤣🤣🤣.... I wonder now as I walk the streets.... Are they thinking that I'm a nerd waaahahahahaha

[@sillysmoothfpv3666]

I'm new to FPV quads. I've only been flying for two months with a Tinyhawk and Wizard X220...mostly the Tinyhawk. I think you just sold me on this JB. Keep up the great videos!

[@sebastienroberge9577]

Hi Joshua! I love the way you make me learn everything on this hobby. Thank you. I just bought a Jumper T8SG V2 Plus. I would appreciate your review on that. Have a great fly!

[@droneartists6137]

why would you want a review on something you already bought -----------

[@sebastienroberge9577]

@@droneartists6137 Because Joshua puts a lot of tricks and gives us more than just a review for all the products he presents.

[@rotorvillage]

Bahahaha that ending! Great radio. Good job Jumper!

[@werewolvesfpv5002]

I really enjoyed this, good old Bardwell. Nice review bud :)

[@karldunn1464]

I’ve been on the fence since I first saw a review of this radio. Never owned a Jumper radio. Out standing radio for sure. Don’t really need it, tho its an awesome looking radio with lots of switches, mode buttons, sliders, etc. And that beautiful screen, COLOR (fa-gedda-bod-it). If M9 or by another naming convention gimbals come, I’ll fall off the fence, and catch that radio.Lol. (JUMPER: Hall Effect Gimbals Please). Thank you JB for an excellent radio review.

[@oncrei]

That after credits scene was hilarious!

[@mrugrysek4201]

Just wait for T16 Plus, this is how Jumper sells their radios. :-)

[@bigfella6629]

pro

[@juderaziq4396]

Agreed. They did on t12.i remember I hve to wait several month for t12. Yet here we are. Hahaha..

[@MusicOnlythebest]

I prefer Nv14, unfortunately. The radio is not meant to be just a box, it has to be useful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHqmkHSPi7OBqZo

[@reddfpv2181]

Hey josh , yes the screen turns off completely , it’s in the radio menu , jus set it to key , stick , or something else I can’t remember n I don’t wanna get up lol n u can set it for how many min or sec it turns off in ... if u can’t find it , reply n I’ll get up n tell u exactly dude , cheers

[@madl3x]

Hei Joshua. If you read this, your attention to this will help anybody who bought T16 recently! I've seen that a lot of people asked you why their Jumper can't work with Open TX Companion and they get the error on the remote side "Storage Warning - Bad Radio Data". You've told them that this happens because one of their modules use the internal multi-protocol radio, which is incompatible with their radio. Well, you're just partially right. When you made the review you probably used Open TX Companion 2.2.3 or 2.2.4 which works fine with your solution, but starting from 2.3.0 and 2.3.1 including, when you are writing ANY model (without any Internal Radio configuration set), will trigger the storage incompatible warning above and nothing set on the companion side will not work to fix this. This happens because the 2.3.x version removed the "multimodule" option from the Horus X10 radio profile (which you use to set a profile for the Jumper T16) and it triggers this warning, disregarding the module you are trying to write, without even with no Radio option (internal or external) configured. Please check this yourself, as it happened only recently since companion 2.3.0 was released. That is why you have so many complaints on your video regarding this error.

[@JeffriRanger]

Your video could hurt frsky🤣🤣 I have sold my x9d a couple months ago and build my own OpenTX transmitter, I think I just did the same job as Jumper did😅

[@PROPWASHFPV]

Great video!! Look forward to seeing how this radio works out!!! Keep us posted!!

[@kptnbalu]

German company MULTIPLEX was the first who probably developed that angled gimbals for the 2002 ROYAL EVO models with 7,9 out 12 channels. It should counter act the way your wish position has influence on the final input. I ended angling my gimbals on my ROYAL EVO12 and did really like it.

[@richfpv472]

And the jumper T16 pro v2 out now and it's not badly priced, they've modified everything that you've criticised, has hall effect gimbal and supports crossfire I think 👍 I'm thinking about getting one

[@HDgodfrey]

Couldn't have said it better... OPEN source. Mountain analogy was nice. This radio looks very interesting. I may see if I can get one for my second radio. Really need one to let my brother start flying with me.

[@windowwasherfpv3485]

I’m not saying this because I’m sponsored by futaba but nothing can touch the Futaba T16 and T18sz but the Quality of the gambles and price range is top notch. Hopefully they’ll have an upgraded gamble down the road

[@JoshuaBardwell]

There's no debate there. Futaba makes AMAZING RADIOS. Too bad they are $$$$$$.

[@windowwasherfpv3485]

Joshua Bardwell agree

[@Rmaia3d]

Joshua Bardwell Yes, agreed!! Good stuff, but a bit overpriced. Also, Futaba is veeeerrrrrryyyyyyyyy conservative in adding new features, specially integration, telemetry and such. That’s the main reason I went with an X9D for my quads and left the Futaba just for the CP helis. Disclaimer: I currently own a Futaba 12FGH, a Futaba T18SZ and a Taranis X9D Plus. The X9D was actually my first non-Futaba radio since the very first radio I bought in 1999 when I started with RC planes.... 😉

[@windowwasherfpv3485]

Rmaia3d Your crazy

[@Rmaia3d]

Doz3R FPV I’m crazy how? Or why? 🤔

[@scottopsahl3205]

Loved the review... And the birds chirping in the background.

[@scottyd035ntknow]

Fast forward to today and they released the Pro with Hall Effect and internal module for $160... I'm getting one.

[@paulrobinson401]

Scott Maruska I’m flysky, let me know what the pro is like 👍

[@JeffreyWelch]

Joshua, you're great. Nerds like us indeed.

[@Jackal_FPV]

What about flashing FrSky receivers? Can the Jumper update FrSky receivers, or is there another way to do this without using a FrSky radio?

[@ThePr0biker]

you can flash anyways with serial passthrough

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The flashing function is a part of opentx so I suspect you can flash from the JR bay but I haven't confirmed.

[@ZeroFPV]

There is also an inverted FTDI USB adapter to flash receivers. It's around $10.

[@AK-vy3uv]

Joshua Bardwell is it possible to check this? I think even for rx banggod-buyers in europe this would be important

[@FenyxFyre]

You should redo the review with the new T16 Plus it has Hall Effect Gimbals.

[@awuma]

24:30 The T16 Pro has Hall effect gimbals and an internal module as well as external.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It didn't exist at the time.

[@williambeckett4295]

Every time the screen goes to black and white; Bardwell's inner devil is coming out!

[@karim1485]

Joshua, as you know, Crossfire operates on 900MHz unlike all other protocols that use the regular 2,4GHz. I am pretty sure it is hardware limitation, though would be awesome if they implemented such feature

[@HeathNielsen]

Love the review. Can’t waiting to see how you leverage the interface improvements.

[@Ethaneman]

As always I appreciate your videos. Many are reviewing this and many mention you can use crossfire and R9M modules. TBS couch showed one using the crossfire module. Would you consider doing a review of setting up and using the R9M module?

[@Andrew_O]

I've got a Hubsan camera drone, a cheap Visuo (hacked w/ 5.8G FPV), a TinyHawk, and a Mobula7. This radio looks PERFECT. I'm not that pressed currently but as soon as I get to flying them all more regularly I may turn in my X-Lite for this for daily use across the board. Great review and as has been suggested, there may be a "Plus" version out in a few moths or separately sold Hall Effect Gimbal upgrade for this making it a true "Holy grail" for me as I'm not expecting to go with Crossfire any time so that multi-protocol module will happily live there. IIRC the reason they went with a separate modules instead of internal was for legal reasons in case any of the protocol owners tried coming after them... What a great product. 90% theft, 10% functional innovation :)

[@parker1ray]

Moved from Tennessee to Port St Lucie, FL and now I get beautiful days 360 days a year, and virtually no cloudy, gloomy, rainy days like 3/4 of the year in East Tennessee.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Hmmmmm yeah but if Orlando is any guide, it rains for 45 minutes every afternoon, and occasionally there's a hurricane.

[@parker1ray]

@@JoshuaBardwell yah but in Knoxville, it is cloudy, gloomy and rainy from October until April, and you get cold. I have been here since January and have been sunny warm and in shorts every day. We have a constant breeze so even when it hits 90, it feels much cooler than Knoxville.

[@parker1ray]

@@JoshuaBardwell On second thought,a fellow worker asked me to not let others know what a fantastic place this is or more may want to come. This place is utterly awful. hot and humid. Please stay up there!

[@tehllama42]

To me the ultimate hack would be adding a switch to the screen input power internally on the radio and wiring that to one of the harder to use momentary switches. When you don't need the screen, tap the switch and toggle power off to the screen. When you need it, bump the same switch and you get the awesome screen. I suspect it might be possible to print some mounts that would let you run some hall effect gimbals designed for a different radio, and this would really be an incredibly good contender.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes, I do think this would be a good idea.

[@Crusader4633]

Mine's inbound from China (RC-Wing; the only place that has them in stock!) - I can't wait. I'm re-entering the hobby after about 6-8 years and I'll use this with a simulator for a while as I pick up everything else I need (low funds).

[@jonnyBgood3]

Balance bar is also for when you use things like monitors on your transmitter.

[@adrianmaftei6806]

Hi Josh, Can you do a short review for T16 Pro ? We are all keen to see that.Got mine few weeks ago and is everything I was dreaming for. I also fly helis.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ_bfZSAd6pli6M

[@spinymonk1590]

Great review ,I might also be swapping from my x9d, love the screen on the jumper 👌

[@guraski]

20:00 if FrSky wants to compete, they need to make better radios. Innovation with ergonomics, function, and quality. They are considered as one of the best, so how could they let Jumper come in and take that from them? Capitalism is supposed to make products better, not make companies wage war against each other. FrSky knows it's downfalls, but will they listen to their customers? That said, kudos to Jumper for making a great product. Hopefully they are able to improve as well.

[@timon0x31]

Ok, I'm not a drone guy, I like sailboats and sailplanes. Been out for quite a while and am now looking for new radio gear. I want all of my new sailboats and sailplanes to return telemetry so this looks like a good choice. Now I need to find a receiver that can return telemetry but that's open enough that I can add my own telemetry modules. Looking for the basics plus roll so I can see how much the sailboat is leaning to port or starboard. So is the T16 a good choice and what would be a good receiver to use that can cover my needs? On a different note, I'm hoping to also at FPV to the sailboat. Mainly for recording but I would be fun to actually sail watching from the skippers perspective. Thanks

[@andymilton6248]

Hi Josh, Just purchased a T16 as your review was very positive. As my DX8 gen1 doesn't support a vario telemetry the T16 looks like a good move etc. I have a FrSky G-RX8 with in built vario/Alt. So I go to bind and set "MULTI - FrSky - D16. Then scroll down to "Bind" press enter and SHOULD get a sub menu 'Telemetry ch1-8 ON, Telemetry ch1-8 OFF' etc. Pressing enter to accept that and then it binds... So I realised my T16 didn't offer that sub menu during binding, but looking at the (nearly complete) T16 manual - it shows the same sub menu... Don't know why I don't get that option? It did bind the Tx and Rx but could not find "New Sensors" Therefore no telemetry.? Do you get that sub menu on your T16 on binding.....? Firmware is 2.2.3 Any suggestions would be much appreciated! Many thanks Andy

[@Sealord511]

Is the external Module 100% Spektrum DSMX compatible? I still use DSMX on almost all my larger 3D Helicopters.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

How could you say it's definitely 100% compatible? It seems to work though.

[@Sealord511]

I‘m wondering especially about Telemetry since OpenTx/FRSky and Spektrum have a different Approach there.

[@Sealord511]

Thanks David. Thats what I thought. But I hadnt checked if „real“ DSMX was still Spektrum only in a few years...

[@The_Real_Zaineman]

@@JoshuaBardwell FYI, the Jumper comes with a round foam pad with adhesive backing. You stick this to the back of the battery bay (facing the sliding door) and it stops the rattle. : Dan :)

[@hiltongray1372]

Hi Joshua . Any chance of doing a tutorial on calibrating an S8R receiver using the T16. Theres a sting in the tail of that question. When i try using the LUA script supplied it locks at the first page and the XYZ values remain at zero.

[@JohannSpringsits]

Hi now is the Hall Gimbal on sale and the Jumper T16 PLUS radio also now you got what you wanted I ordered my Hall Gimbal allready

[@ErronKebabb]

Wow I have been looking for a radio (flown a bunch of rtf 4/6 ch helis) and your insight on things is so helpful ! Looking at a convergence to get into planes ! Fpv and builds too! Was torn between x10,x9d,qx7.... but wowow I think my choice just got a lot easier !

[@quadwizard]

I dont agree with copying Futaba but using openTX is no issue!!

[@Clickbaiters]

I agree also but the core of the problem here is the relationship FrSky has formed with the OpenTX devs to such extent that FrSky has been supporting the team financially for a long time now. Now Frsky employs an OpenTX dev as a full time developer for them which is a huge conflict of interest in my view. The OpenTX team hasn't developed any software for any other radio brand besides Frsky in the past 5-6yrs, with good reason does FrSky feel like only they have rights to OpenTX but they don't, it's open source!!

[@dewke67]

@@Clickbaiters In the linux community it's very common for dev's to be paid employees of a company. The difference there is that they don't not support certain vendors. I love my x9d and will use it until it dies, but since I also use crossfire I will probably change radios if FrSky continues to sabotage crossfire support in new models.

[@Clickbaiters]

@@dewke67 I also enjoy my X7S and have zero plans to get rid of it at the momemt. I'm also looking forward to being able to update my firmware and get the new 'ACCESS' protocol. What worries me is that the whole point of open source software and the subsequent support of that software for the benefit of the community *seems* to now be exclusive to a manufacture. A genuine competitor has thrown their hat into the ring but had the doors shut on them, found a way around it which has in turn upset (documented) the OpenTX team even more. FrSky has been incredible for the hobby and is very responsive to the end users' wants and desires. That doesn't give them exclusive rights to open source software no matter how much they pumped into it! They will have people turn against them if they don't stop it. Just like people dumped their Spektrum and Futaba radios when the X9D exploded into the scene. People were tired of the same old games radio manufacturers had been playing since the 80's. FrSky didn't have an issue when they "copied" and undercut Crossfire when they introduced the R9 system! Which I also own BTW.

[@seanmolloy9422]

JUMPER T16 PRO HAS hall gimbals now for 159

[@paulstone9755]

Yes it does.. Im a buyer...

[@seanmolloy9422]

@@paulstone9755 im considering it also. is there a forum of users yet?

[@paulstone9755]

@@seanmolloy9422 I really don't know

[@Rob-vt1mz]

@@seanmolloy9422 check rcgroups dot com believe there is an owners thread in there. I've been looking for t16 myself hard to find u.s. suppliers.

[@RcReviewsLt]

Sadly i have several FrSky gimbals R type, and several just had spring broken after only several months... sad reaction only...

[@Cmensailing]

Jumper t8sg made love with x10 and spectrum with futaba ergonomics! Best of each! Jumper might throw in hall gimbals and internal multiprotocol for t16 plus!

[@Manomic55]

Thanks for helping out this newbee save a ton of money

[@coldrider3517]

200% with ya ,use up the gimble's & swap em when .Why throw out unused stuff ,Cheers from Montreal ,ty ty for them vids & knowledge sharing

[@kevinunknown6457]

OK . I would differently sold if they would supply a output Ntsc/Pal port for DVR to record the T16 screen telemetry for making cool videos overlays on top of your GoPro footage with . Josh what do you think ? I think wit would be a BIG game changer and something fresh!!!

[@PowerThumb]

THX for your review! May you do a vid showing FrSky Taranis models swapping to Jumper T16???? Would be awesome!!!!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I just finished editing it! And it'll go up tomorrow.

[@PowerThumb]

@@JoshuaBardwell THX A MILLION!!!!!!!!!! You`re my man! Everyone from our group is watching your vids!

[@perbackman8283]

And one more thing can you see if we can buy the Tyranis X10 M10 gimbals and swat with what we have in the T16

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Definitely not. Not without significant modification to the radio anyway.

[@perbackman8283]

So th T16 is not a copy of the Tyranis hours X10 ???

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It uses the same open source firmware as the X10. Because it uses the same firmware, it has some internal similarities in how the system is wired up. But it is not physically the same and it does not use compatible gimbals.

[@TealcJack]

According to the manufacture. This radio does not do all of Futaba's protocols. It does not do FASST, FASSTest, or T-FHSS. I was looking at getting this radio but without FASST I am out.

[@georgeangelakopoulos8884]

You can turn off the screen in x10s after some seconds if you want. Whats missing here?

[@neilgillies6943]

A spell checker :-0)))

[@rcrahul3657]

Hello Joshua! I got this transmitter already after seeing your video, and quite happy about the overall feeling. One question though.. How to bind this Jumper T16 to the Radiolink R9DS kind of receivers which uses DSSS and FHSS protocols? I am somehow unable to bind those receivers in SFHSS option in "MULTI". Do I have to choose some other protocol for FHSS / DSSS?

[@FilipRadelic]

You're the first person that mentioned the screen not being able to turn off, thank you. That's a pretty big deal with such a big color screen. I mean it's nice but I'm gonna use it to setup my models once and then just to switch between them. Gimbals are not a deal breaker for me, they are probably gonna release a "T16 Plus" with hall effect gimbals and they will be available as a part that you can use on this radio. What might be a deal breaker to me is that they haven't been able to release it with an internal 4in1 despite teasing it and putting it up for preorder as such, then changing it later. Thanks OpenTX for being helpful. Let's hope the community solves this (like they did with external 4in1 module) and Jumper implements it in their next radio (T16 Plus?). That said, my Q X7 has had too many issues in its first 11 months and this one is the current favorite to replace it once I lose patience. FrSky is full of crap (I'd understand if Futaba complained but they probably don't feel threatened) and I hate that OpenTX is so high up their asses. Time for a new open source radio firmware? JumperTX source is of course also available so even if Jumper abandons updating it (which I don't see happening unless FrSky manages to shut them down), someone will pull in the OpenTX changes into that project and share it.

[@FilipRadelic]

Lol just seen the very end, I totally agree with that 😅

[@SplashFPV]

I saw another review bij DutchRC which clearly states the screen can be dimmed after a few seconds

[@fpvwing]

Really great informative vid Joshua. Thanks.

[@usarmyfl1]

Is this Jumper going to have the same range as the protocols it emulates? For instance, if you use an L9R receiver, it should go just as far as if you were using an frsky radio right? Thanks! I guess what I am saying is it's output power. Is it the same as the rest, higher/lower etc. :P

[@jabflyer5159]

Hi Joshua! I'm from Belgium and I have an answer for your question I heard in your video. Your question was, "where does the idea come from to change the angel of the sticks?" Simple answer... Multiplex Germany has got it standard for years! I fly them as my favorite transmitters. Check it out! BTW, keep up the fantastic work. You 're my favorite channel AND personality! 👍

[@Dav2112]

Nice overview, looks like a pretty solid radio for a really good price.

[@SamFugarino]

Very good review. You covered just about everything,

[@lfrecords3970]

looks like a copy of Futabas...i have the older futaba t14sg and the 16SZ for my helis.(can i finaly use them for drones? are there any tiny recievers available i cant find?)...i was wondering if i could use them for my drones which i started the last 2 years but its been some months i fly more seriously drones and i learned everything about them....someone told me that some Frsky recievers are compatible with futabas..is that true cause i didnt find any sure answer online yet....for the drones i have an Frsky since i started and i have no issues and the only thing that "bothers me" is the opposite of what you said in the video...i like short distanses on the sticks :) ...since i ve some medium googles too as a starter back then i m thinking to get the dji googles with 2 air units without the radio....but since the air units work only as a vtx+cam i dont know how good idea that is since for every drone i will need 150+euros just for the camera and vtx...is this jumper 16 good idea instead of the frsky x7s? maybe the dji radio has better range or something other that it looks simple without even screen? i cant decide what to go for...lol....any suggestions?

[@filiped7298]

Crossfire support! I was negatively surprised that my QX7 doesn't support this out of the box when I thought on stepping up into a long range quad.

[@amax2624]

The QX7 does......but only the first batch with version 0.3 mainboard and the U.Fl antenna plug... :-))

[@filiped7298]

aMax how to check the batch?

[@AECRADIO1]

Open source can not be abused as a product that can be converted to closed source code and marketed as such. The disclaimer is published on all open source, and must be present to end users.

[@samwhaley4016]

Will this radio bind and work with hobbyzone carbon cub with safe and auto land. Im concerned about the link up with the gps. Thanks

[@corf8674]

First !!!!. Thanks for keeping us up to date on the latest RC tech !!

[@alexm7056]

Got Jumper T16 Plus with Hall Sensor gimbals a week ago, for $160! Whoever got older version - can get a set of 2 gimbals for only $15 !!! While the CNC gimbals for Taranis X9D are $20 a piece (they are better quality though, but come on! $20 - that is way too expensive). T16 works perfect. The quality WAY BETTER than Taranis X9D Plus which I own for last 4 years or so, but not even close to build quality of my buddy's Horus 10S. Rubber inserts on the sides and bottom makes it feel comfier than Horus 10S though, but gimbals are of less quality (not CNC-ed). Case and buttons feel cheaper. Rotary encoder (instead of lame buttons) and color screen makes it way easier to configure than X9D with its lame buttons. The ONLY DISADVANTAGE (for myself) against X9D is battery capacity. Tray is not big enough to fit a decent LiPo for a thirsty colorful LCD (2000mAh max what is available today fitting the battery tray). Have to charge it before every field day. Must do a built-in charger mod.

[@msmolly3082]

Sounds like an excellent choice!

[@111darky]

hello i am planing to get a new transmitter and i am confused to chose DARK KNIGHT NIRVANA vs jumper t16 . i am a fixed wing and a quad flyer . thanks for your informative videos

[@JoshuaBardwell]

All I can say is, watch my review of both and decide for yourself. They both have points to recommend them.

[@111darky]

@@JoshuaBardwell thanks so much for your time and consideration. Keep up the great work. All respecte

[@amen_ra6926]

Think there will be a firmware update for the always-on screen? I like the multi-platform thing. I could keep my Spektrum quads and move to Frsky in newer builds and fly both with one radio right?

[@airgun1974]

I need to learn something :) got the jumper t16 I binded it to my theory 5 xl but the end points are 1156-1843. I can't find a way to get them to 1000-2000. the endpoints when binded to the DX8 are fine. all the walk through videos are about adj from 900's to 1000 but nothing for when it is higher than a 1000.

[@JTesoro21]

Got me. I'm sold. I'm selling my X9D+ Special Edition, and getting T16. Can't wait to have a scroll wheel again! Bye bye frsky.

[@JTesoro21]

@@shadeshiest22 I don't like kool aid, but I like great value. The T16 is cheap enough that I can keep my x9d+ special edition as a back up 😁