The best my Mobula6 ever flew EMUFLIGHT PROJECT MOCKINGBIRD

[@robbinreijm5543]

I know this is just a testing video but i just wannawt you know that you helped me with every single drone problem i have aver had and im so glad that your channel exists and that you do what you do , thank you so much

[@ProjectMockingbird]

Dude... like I could totally notice how your flying got smoother and faster in this video and you started flying and pushing it harder. Glad you are liking it and glad that Kevin was willing to try some crazy ideas to push Angle flying further

[@Quick-Flash]

emu FTW

[@bradcurtis9560]

Quick question, is the link for the download broke on the facebook group?

[@ProjectMockingbird]

@@bradcurtis9560 yeah, all links to the dev hexes are gone now as .30 official release is coming. Be on the lookout for a new PMB for it, and it will also be a preset!

[@M.TTT.]

@@ProjectMockingbird hey, is there a video explaining the presets for the mob6 using Emu? I haven't looked yet, but just got my mob6 today. Thank you.

[@ProjectMockingbird]

@@M.TTT. my website and FB group have a new .3.0 tube that works great with the Mob6

[@WesCrockettCA]

Great vid. You mention you liked how it flew with PMB and Emu, but have you done it on your 19000kv version? Does this change your recommendation toward the 25000kv model?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

PLEASE NOTE: The video shows flashing Emu 2.0 RC1 via the Emuflight configurator. That is the incorrect version for use with Project Mockingbird. Please download the dev version linked in the Facebook page. In the video I say that the Mob6 and Meteor65 crash well. Then later I complain about how when they crash they stick to the wall or ceiling on Betaflight, and they don't do that on Emuflight. What I mean is, compared to a brushed Whoop, they crash well, in that they have so much torque that when they hit something they can instantly correct and often keep flying. But then sometimes Betaflight air mode flips out and the motors rev up and they stick to the wall or ceiling until you disarm. Upon re-watching the video a few times, it's clear that I'm crashing more on Emu, and I'm overshooting corners more too. My personal take on this is that the Emu tune feels so much better that it's encouraging me to try to go faster, and then I'm getting less precise. In addition, the PMB default rates were a little different than the ones I was using on BF. I think that with more practice, or with a more skilled pilot, the Emu tune would definitely be faster around a track, and it was no-question more exciting to fly. But some pilots are going to be faster on the Betaflight tune (or a slightly de-tuned version of the Emu/PMB tune) because they'll be more in control.

[@KnizzleHizzle]

Curious to see how emuflight would do without the tune for a more FW to FW comparison :-)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

@@KnizzleHizzle Funny. The last time I tested Emu and flew it on defaults for exactly this reason, some people criticized me for not flying it "at its best". Just goes to show.

[@KnizzleHizzle]

Joshua Bardwell oh, sorry, didn't mean to critize, I found it quite informative. But as I don't have a BNF whoop so I was curious what emuflight brings to the table ;-)

[@ianrmurphy]

I'm curious why you consider the rates part of the tune? For me rates are distinct - a good tune gets the best out of the rates I like to fly and I would always put my rates onto a quad before evaluating how I feel it flies.

[@hoonam814]

I want to see you do 3d mode with the mobula 6

[@The_Real_Zaineman]

WOW, my Mobula 7 just goes full throttle freaking out when I hit something TOO ! The fact that yours does that too makes me feel so much better. Also, my Mobula saw you flying your Mobula. Now it doesn't me flying it or touching it. It says I make it feel icky......... Z

[@Clif_Brown]

Disable air mode and that should stop the full throttle freak outs when it hits something.

[@fpvnube4908]

@@Clif_Brown Thank you for your help, I thought I did that by turning on angle mode and turning off horizon mode. Is there something else in betaflight that I am missing ? Fyi, it's me Zaineman

[@toddspeck9415]

I noticed the change. Awesome seeing you fly those gates.

[@Gillete13bmsp]

On mobula 6 with 25000kv motors i saw big differnce with jesc 96khz. A plus 30 seconds from jesc 48khz (setup with emuflight and PMB settings). At 3:30 flight time i take out the battery at 3,7v resting voltage and at 4:00 flight time, resting voltage is 3,5-3,6v.

[@gabbo2027]

I'd recommend playing with throttle curves rather than a limit, that way you can tame your low & mid stick throttle, but keeping full power available for when you're about to plow into the bottom of a gate :)

[@clintonkeesmaat1525]

everyone in fpv be having a sick ass house and shit

[@EDerable1]

Thanx JB, did all that and now it flies like a rocket. At first i thought it was a 2s whoop😳

[@chrisbrooks9149]

Just put this on my mobula 6 such a massive difference having so much fun with it now 👍

[@KCQuadTronX]

see i cant wait to have a transmitter witha scrren on like yours lol ill be flying even higher and further then for sure....im almost to the point of doing so already oh and better get upgraded goggles to lol....i am ripping and ramping everything in our yard its so awesome and i am so seriuos and glad to have your help in getting to the right spot in my life finally

[@lostjohnny9000]

For amazing indoor footage see Nick Burns. Very hypnotic viewing. He witters all the way through every video. Very entertaining.

[@crash_lander]

Thankyou Sooo much for this video, I was so frustrated with my mobula 6 not performing well, I changed from beta flight to emu flight and snap it’s so much fun to fly now.

[@veek2767]

I was not expecting those pants.

[@markvarian1637]

@joshua the meteor65 gets another full minute with the 48hz esc fix. At least in my case with the betarpv batteries.

[@IVAN_ENT]

nice i had already ordered a 25k version and then saw ur vid saying it would be a battery killer glad i saw this before changing my order

[@michaelsouders4026]

In the video you grabbed an earlier version of EmuFlight, rather than Patrick's link to the newer 0.2.15 beta binary. I'd recommend using his binary, as it may have additional features and tweaks that aren't present in the one you grabbed. I made the same mistake the first time I did this.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Oh hell. I thought the RC was newer! Well, in a week it won't matter anyway so the video will be correct eventually.

[@danielfranklin5224]

I’d love to see how the 25000kv and 19000kv editions perform outdoors. Maybe a comparison vid between the two with some freestyle???🤔

[@WrongWayFPV]

Notification squad 👊👊 Now that I've watched, I'm convinced. Putting emuflight on my mobula now. Thanks jb

[@T1MEHUNT]

I could watch an entire video of you just petting your dogs :)

[@lorentacar]

Can you make another video with the 19kv and give your finale Thoughts on battery handling... in my expérience i flew it with 450mah and 550 with a throttle curv to get an easy hoovering and it stay really fun to fly ... and flew sooo long! i suppose that suit Better to the low kv due to more torque... perhaps i say BS if someone knows tell me.

[@DavidReynolds-kr6yh]

That scene with your doggies was funny. I can’t help but let my doggies distract me too, and yes sometimes they stink too lol. Looks like I might have to do a modification of my mobula 6 to get more flight time, I got the 25000 kv version, love it, so does my friend who flies 5 inch, he loves to fly inside at times and he’s now thinking about getting one himself.

[@srossi88]

Josh, did you disable airmode in BF? My mobula recovers just as well once I turn that off. I believe Patrick has it turned off in his emuflight config

[@Quick-Flash]

"There's just no question it's better. It's really something!" Joshua Bardwell

[@GhVost]

Lovely episode, Joshua. Thank you!

[@quadspeedfpv]

Fancy flying there Josh very informative thank you

[@uavtech]

Key to no freak on hitting stuff is turning off Airmode (in any firmware).

[@JoshuaBardwell]

True but then the quad has no authority at low throttle.

[@uavtech]

@@JoshuaBardwell yep that is the difference. In Airmode, you don't need 0 throttle authority. That and a lower I-term or lower I-term limits as when you hit a wall, I-term starts to wind up as Angle Mode tries to correct.

[@Quick-Flash]

@@uavtech emu does have it's own ways of dealing with that. And as you can see it crashes well.

[@ProjectMockingbird]

Yeah, turning off airmode definitely helps but Emuflight has extra things to keep that windup from happening and recover more quickly.

[@uavtech]

@@Quick-Flash , oh yeah? Please elaborate on what that is.

[@grahamjw75]

The last few models I have gotten from HappyModel have been surprisingly good flyers and honestly the tune out of the box to me is excellent in comparison I thought the out of the box tune on the Meteor65 was terrible I had to spend some time fidgeting with it until it was decent “for me” and I still prefer the untouched Mob6

[@jawolllinger]

Newbie question: Would reflashing a Mob6 HD to Emuflight and JESC make any sense at all? I understand, that the Mob6 HD is not a good choice for racing, but would JESC flashing also increase flight time for the HD and would the emuflight tune also improve the "handling"?

[@mdo]

Yes. Afaik they're basically the same quad just a different camera system.

[@kristof007]

JESC or Bluejay or any other ESC firmware with 48khz or 96khz PWM frequency will increase your flight time on the Mob6 HD.

[@denislamadeleine1181]

Thanks for another lesson Joshua!

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

The C.I.A. mockingbird is a pretty interesting read as well.

[@hateeternalmaver]

Cool that my Mob is in parts atm, it sucked the battery empty immediately (I guess a short somewhere...?). Definately gonna try that out asap.

[@matthewjarchow8209]

Love project mockingbird!!!!!

[@jibbajabba4597]

I found with betaflight disabling air mode and putting it on the same switch as the modes switch (so air mode is disabled in angle mode but on in acro for outdoor stuff - I have a mob7) virtually stopped the sticking to the wall syndrome whenever you hit anything. I keep meaning to try this EMU/PMB but the Mob7 just flies so well and I have limited flying time, but I will one day...

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Disabling air mode does fix it. But then you have to set up idle up to keep the motors spinning at zero throttle.

[@jibbajabba4597]

Joshua Bardwell given how badly I fly, having the motors spinning at zero throttle isn't the best idea lol

[@chenhaus]

Could I suggest a video that would seem to be in your wheelhouse? There are folks breaking Mobula6 boards trying to solder ufl connectors on to use dipoles or CP antennas. From my experience, the stock wire antenna seems to outperform even the best CP antennas on the market. Would love to see a comparison to save people the hassle and possible damage to their FC for the sake of worse video performance!🦾🤓

[@scootroter4859]

The first thing I learned after buying my first HappyModel product with the Crazybee FC, is to NOT FUC% with anything on that ULTRA FRAGILE board! If it works out of the box, DON'T TOUCH IT! Trying to solder or add anything and you are just looking for trouble, and having to buy a new FC! LEAVE IT ALONE!

[@CF_Joel]

I came back again to see the doggies!

[@FPVDiverBomber]

I love my Mob 6 hd and been watching this, your jesc vid and another,,, so what do I do first? Jesc esc update or put emu flight on it? I hate updating, still fly an old mrm225 on whatever betaflight they had four years ago

[@NOIZYB]

why do dogs love eating quadcopter or any rc when my dogs get out i am worried about having low battery 🔋 i usually land on my shed roof or car because my mastif took a bite out of my lipo thank god he was okay i grab him before the next chomp .....been wanting a indoor micro but same issues with my dogs...yes when i buy this i will use you’re affiliate links

[@IveGotWood1000]

I have same issue i have to put up a child gate on my stairs in order to fly

[@jordan1991r]

My main issue with my Mob6 is that the accelerometer seems to lose Calibration in the slightest crash. I need to land, disarm, sometimes reboot for it to calibrate then take off again

[@ProjectMockingbird]

Jordan Renwick have you tried Emuflight? They have new code that helps in that respect. It’s probably not your acc, it’s gyro overflow causing it to freak out

[@jordan1991r]

Project Mockingbird I did try your tune on it a month or so ago, will maybe try again. It’s a case of crashing then if you just give it some throttle instead of hovering in place it will be hugely off

[@carcomp101]

So... do you still recommend the 19k version to "fun fliers", or the higher version?

[@VesselRxFpv]

Wondering if my mobula 6 with elrs with the baked in spI would still work with on emu flight since I believe there is a specific need for beta flight on the spi models. super late to the game any help is super appreciated!

[@romeoaj]

The dress strikes back!!!

[@SkyCandyVisuals]

Nice kilter, nice flying, I'm gonna move from bf to ef now gotta see wht all the hype is about

[@tshirtfactory07]

JB, you rockin a shirt here?!

[@baefed]

Sucks its not available anywhere for a few more months... by that time winter will be over and we will all be back outside on our normal quads.

[@pippifpv]

It really sucks.. And further delayed by Chinese new year and then Corona.. How ever, me missing a mobula 6 is nothing compared to China in danger of Corona spreading with the wind. Still sucks though

[@gman1185]

Hey Joshua, can you post a link for those pants, or at least what they are called?

[@jappiemoto]

Can you send a new link to the facebook group and specifically mobula 6 setup

[@StealthyDead]

I lost it when you were like "... but you gotta shut the hell up!"

[@gtifury310]

Dude, you flew best with the stock tune.

[@mdo]

Yeah he seemed to have the best flow and precision with stock tune and throttle limit.

[@Dezinkdrft]

Nice desk punching bag 👊 lol

[@managedatom6737]

What was capacity of the battery? on the recording is shows you are consuming over 1000 mAh? thx

[@kevinmahoney9205]

So, what about the flight times after flashing to EmuFlight & PM? What kind of flight times do you get with the 19000kv and better batteries?

[@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench]

19 minutes on a 2s lithium ion :-0 including a stripped down GoPro!!!

[@EugeneKreger]

It seems that EmuFlight doesn't support LBT, as a result cannot bind my QX7s my mobula6.

[@biggfpv2721]

I really liked it to on my mobula 6 as well

[@bluedeath996]

I am having trouble with my Mobula6. I updated the firmware, added project mockingbird settings, flew it and now it isn't seen on the USB at all. all my other quads connect and it is receiving power from the USB, but that is all. This was with Betaflight and about 3 weeks ago.

[@matthebert007]

Great Video- Thanks

[@jalkingforjesus]

I tried the PMB emu flight tune for mobula6 and really didn't like it. The quad just felt way looser, particularly on yaw, which felt positively mushy compared to Betaflight. Mind you neither emu flight or Betaflight 4.1 on the mobula6 flew as nicely as my UR65 with 0802 19kv motors, JESC 48khz and a very slightly tweaked 4.1 F3 performance edition PMB tune. For me the combination of razor sharp handling with slightly more momentum is better for my style of flying. Which is not to say that the PMB/Emuflight team aren't awesome, just interesting that I seem to have a different experience to most of the other people who have tried this particular tune.

[@JLfpv]

Also what's the difference between betaflight and emuflight for these micros. Like what's the filtering diff and pid diff and the actual math in the software. If it's just a different feature set that could be enabled in betaflight is prefer that. Uav tech already showed there was nothing different in emuflight vs betaflight when. It first came out. Is that true still?

[@ProjectMockingbird]

JL FPV Emuflight added new code for Angle mode specifically. It’s got a new way it handles Angle PID’s over the old Betaflight way, new code that handles crashing and wall sucking (it has a “high and low” PID setting based on stick deflection), expo in angle mode, and feed forward in angle mode. It also has a new way (well, it’s the Silverware way) of calculating yaw. It does it around the gravity vector and it is less likely to i-term windup overflow...it does have it’s own downsides, but overall better.

[@arcticqwadfpv5574]

Caddx vista for mobula possible? U play guitar for ur dogs!

[@AirKhanFPV]

set the amp value to 1175-1179 to get the correct mah draw.

[@dannyreimer1673]

I just received my Mobula 6 yesterday. I am trying to follow your steps to get emuflight running. And I stumble when I try to past the diff. CLI hangs/freezes when it is trying to build the autocomplete cache… I used the links from your Video and installed the crazybee F4 Fr Hex-File. Everything else in the configurator works fine… tried the 32 and the 64-Bit version of Emuflight With the same results.Freeze Right after I opened the CLI Tab. Any suggestions would be great!

[@Alex-en-drone]

It looks flying better before the esc ans emiflight flash 🤔

[@emmanuelcheveau4891]

Hi JB, is it possible to fly acro-trainer with emuflight + mocking project ?

[@Fpv_Dad]

Hi Joshua. Did you have crash recovery turned on in BF/emuflight? it does wonders.

[@Z4nd3r-D]

Hi JB, I notice you are using batteries without cables (not sure on the correct way to discribe); does this work OK? I have the opportunity to get some cheap GNB 300mah 1s without cables but was concerned they would stick out too far or move the COG. Any advise from anyone? Thanks in advance..

[@eagafonov]

I've just updated Mobula7 2s It's flyes much better now

[@HERSDT_FPV]

emuflight flyes very good without any mods in stock .. you just need to setup pids .

[@beechFPV]

you need to have that ceiling fan turned on with only one gate on it.. should be fun

[@PadiwanFPV]

In acro, I get a strange auto pitch up as if I were in angle mode, any suggestions on a fix?

[@PadiwanFPV]

I tried adjusting the I pitch value in the pids and turning off the accelerometer and no luck.

[@x0DEAD]

Will you put emuflight on the meteor65 with the mob6 tune? I was talking to Patrick and he said that it will work on the meteor65 as well. Other people on the Facebook page have tried it too.

[@whateman12408]

Sorry off topic I thought Joshua did a review on this charger HOBBYMATE Speed H6 Lipo Charger 700W DC / 200W AC, Fast Balance Charger and I can't find it now.

[@nicholaskerslake3936]

Hey Joshua, giving Emuflight a go. I'm setting up Emuflight LUA script and the pids.lua file has the same name as the Betaflight file hence it isn't working for me. Have you run in to this error and did you find a solution to it? If not is there somewhere I can go for support with this sort of problem?

[@luki-bs6419]

Hi Joshua, is it compatible with the Flysky FS-i6X radio 🤔 Thx for answer

[@adamlhotak8180]

Can we use the firmware for Meteor 65 as well ?

[@VibriaFPV]

Just to be clear - Emuflight does not support EU transmitters ?

[@alexbrensing]

I’m new to the hobby and just learning to fly a tiny whoop, was learning about lipo care and was wondering what you usually run your 1s batteries to? Is it okay to run it passed 3.5V? Thanks

[@JoshuaBardwell]

As long as you stay over about 3.0 or 3.1 volts, they won't take damage. The reason I usually stop at 3.5v is because below that, the battery can't deliver as much power. With bigger quads, when you get below about 3.5, they sag the minute you hit the throttle and you can't fly very aggressively. With micros though, they don't pull as much current, and the battery is so small that you get short flight times if you stop at 3.5. Also, they have more sag to begin with, so they hi 3.5 volts earlier. So bottom line, I run 1S whoop batteries down to 3.1 or so. They don't last long, but that's just the way it is.

[@alexbrensing]

Joshua Bardwell thanks man!

[@littlefrogyboy1]

why does it change from 5 amp to 30 amp?

[@skyline412drones]

Okay...so I know I am super late on this video, but just wondering if anyone out there can help me. I recently got a mobula 6 and went to put emuflight and JESC on it. everything seemed to go smoothly, but after setting everything up after arming once throttle up it goes into a spin of death. The motors appear to be spinning in the proper directions, and I didn't physically move anything around, not really sure where to start trouble shooting....thanks ahead for any help

[@AdamLaFrance2600]

Nice ORQA’s!

[@pksteffen]

Honest DVR. Fun!

[@simont3686]

Then why do i get 2:15 min with 19k motors and brand new GNB 300 and 350 batteries? I am pretty frustrated. Why do everyones perform so well except mine?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Are you flying particularly hard? Are you flying down to 3.1 volts? For the little 1S whoop packs, you can't stop at 3.5 volts like you do with a bigger quad. You really have to bleed them dry.

[@simont3686]

I always stop at 3.1V and I don't fly too hard as I am still a beginner. I just did the upgrade to Emu and 48kHz and I now get 2:20 on the 300mah batteries and almost 3:00 on 350mah ones. I really whished for 5 min + when I bought it, but i really have no clue. I even just tried oiling my bearings and I'll see if that brings me closer.

[@Gillete13bmsp]

@@simont3686 Check if your onboard voltage meter needs calibration. When you put a charged battery at 4.2v do you see 4.2v from OSD ?

[@simont3686]

@@Gillete13bmsp I will do that. But I'll use a lab power supply. And a multimeter. then I can be sure.

[@rootsoffgrid]

Hey hope someone can help me out - my first drone is the Mobula6 and I'm unsure about when I should be landing and ending the flight. The OSD says "low battery" after about 40 seconds of flying and then it says "Land Now" with the voltage at 3.3V after just 1 minute of flying. Are there some settings I should change? this is after having done the firmware change to JESC 48khz which is supposed to increase flight time. These are brand new GNB 300MAH batteries so I'm not sure what the problem is. Should i just keep flying down to 3V or will that damage the batteries badly? Cheers

[@novcon]

Great Video, but am I missing something? I can't find the links for project mockingbird, the t16 throttle video or EMUflight.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I'm not sure how but the video description seems to have been reset. I've fixed it now. Sorry about that.

[@adamdrtina7261]

Hi Joshua, can you help me with betaflight, please? When I connect the quad, main screen works (I can move with the quad and see it) but after I click on some command, the whole betaflight freezes and I have to shut it down. I can't literally do anything including getting into CLI. I've tried to update firmware but that didn't help. Do you have any solution please? Have a good day :)

[@fpvnme4845]

nice dogs pal

[@fpvquadjockey9195]

So did you get more than 3 minutes flight time after flashing JESC and Emuflight?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

JESC did extend the flight time a little bit, but not a huge amount. I didn't fly repeatably enough to be able to say more than that.

[@pikepoier]

The Facebook Page for emuflight is down... any way someone can send me it? I buildet a New one and didnt saved the config:(

[@w_callaghan8300]

that's one steady voltage meter. or do my batteries suck...

[@EvgenyBrazlavsky]

after tring emuflight my mobula6 cpu working 100%... and it happens after adjustment modes, from 50% too 100%. while in betaflight from the start cpu working only 15-20% cpu

[@JLfpv]

I fly acro will the tune still work? I just can't do stability anymore. It just feels wrong.

[@ProjectMockingbird]

JL FPV yeah, it’s still a solid PID tune as all of my tunes start out in Acro, but if you are wanting to do Whoop racing, Angle mode has been proven superior and even Vanny, NURK, JET, GAB, Phluxy, and NUB (and little old me) all fly whoops in Angle for racing.

[@randallcox7392]

Help please anyone!.. Can I swap the roll with the yaw on a transmitter? That's how I learned on 4 channel helicopters, and I was able to swap them for my Mavic Air. Thanks

[@3-danything977]

Will the firmware for the esc work for flight One

[@highdrone69fpvakamasterroshi]

JB. Are the Orqa you new choice of everyday flying goggles 🔥🔥💪👽🤘

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I use Orqa, HDO, and DJI depending on my mood. They are all excellent.

[@highdrone69fpvakamasterroshi]

Joshua Bardwell if you had to choose one out of the 3 which one will be 🙈

[@xmonstar420x]

Is EMU keeping up with elrs? (Specifically spi-based elrs receivers)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Emu doesn't support spi-based receivers at this time.

[@xmonstar420x]

@@JoshuaBardwell thanks for saving me hours of head/heartache! xD

[@highlandcrawler]

12:00 I think the tablecloth stuck to your legs as you got up man. :)

[@MoMadNU]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH3bo5-AmLx_rpI

[@highlandcrawler]

@@MoMadNU Ya I know. I was just "Joshing" him a bit. I get a chuckle from it as I have a wall tapestry that's made from what looks like the same fabric lol. I dont care if Bardwell wears pants, skirts, shorts or none at all honestly. His choice in lower body coverings doesn't change or effect all the amazing things I've learned from him over the years.

[@GoopieG]

Does Joshua wear dresses?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH3bo5-AmLx_rpI

[@rgilroy1909]

Bardwell, do you always race at home in a kimono?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I.... don't think you know what a kimono is.

[@SGT_G]

@@JoshuaBardwell some kind of Lacey thong?

[@rgilroy1909]

Joshua Bardwell my bad....man dress😂😂😂 ok wth do you call it? Just..."comfy" no pants wearing FPV?

[@clnfreakone8486]

He dose what he wants because he can and who cares ...he explains it here 3 years ago 😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH3bo5-AmLx_rpI

[@manuelfalcon334]

Would you be making a video on the newbeedrone brushless

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes. Probably coming out next week.

[@name-fe1pe]

Does anyone know which charger he is using for whoop batteries.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWKreKSipKuWZ6M