FPV camera black screen no OSD | REAL WORLD TROUBLESHOOT

[@WEEBER13]

The timing of this video was PERFECT.

[@my1little2pony]

Its sort of humbling to know that the great Joshua Bardwell also gets plagued by frustrating quad failures haha

[@Man-Time]

Ahhhh.... A real FPV video. I feel like they should all be like this! One crash and failure. Maybe I have too much BetaFPV stuff🤣

[@flexplexico480]

Dude - I’ve smoked three of these AIO boards. Even soldering with a microscope and using a multimeter it is SO easy to blow a UART, bridge a connection, etc.

[@babyzfpv1234]

This actually worked. On my IFlight FC, I soldered the yellow wire to the V1 pad and made an extension for the video wire to the vtx. At least I have a back up now. Thank you for the lesson!

[@walkershot92]

good video. you need to do more of these quick little troubleshooting videos for the new guys that don't know how to do this stuff. like troubleshooting "is it a bad motor or esc?" I get really tired of typing out that one.

[@glidentity]

@@smooth_ops2942 there was a video on youtube, probably this channel actually! About testing continuity of the ground and esc pad I believe. And if it beep (not enough resistance) then esc is fried. I am sure it can be found with a good search

[@glidentity]

Literally first result (for me) of a youtube search: troubleshooting esc. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIiXkmZ3o9eUjM0

[@walkershot92]

@@smooth_ops2942 I totally know how to do it. Been racing for 4 yrs now. You have to get very good with quick troubleshooting and field repairs when racing. Quickest easiest way is to swap the "bad" motor with a good one and see if the issue stays or goes away. Stays is is esc, goes away is motor. Always a good idea to check the wires for cuts etc to make sure it's not shorting on the frame or anything. Was just saying he needs to do more of the shorts to help noobs that don't have a clue where to start.

[@walkershot92]

@@glidentity honestly that fastest non bs way is to do a quick motor swap and see if that fixes the problem. if not...esc. no need to bust out the multimeter and check continuity, resistance, blah blah, aint nobody got time for that

[@NotThePulla]

i friggin love these kind of videos. this is one of the most fun/frustrating parts of FPV is just troubleshooting issues. Its cool to see how you trial and error your process. Too bad it was a sad face at the end but still nice to pinpoint the issue.

[@axemanarbor]

Sounds like JB is fricken rubbing off on you 😅😮

[@seamless7942]

He really tries with these videos. Full props ❤

[@KatrinaLeFaye]

This is why I watch your channel, if the ones with experience have issues, I am out.

[@_t17p]

Bardwell your videos always seem to come out right as I am thinking of particular drone related topics! Crashed my drone on Tuesday, got black screen but I still had osd and vtx transmission. I threw the drone on the bench and luckily all I had to do was solder the signal wire back on because it had busted off and within 5 min I was up and flying again. Sorry about your flight controller, but thanks for the videos!

[@RadekMacha]

Bardwell’s dramatic sequences at the end of a video are legendary. Although frankly, the fridge one was my fave.

[@joshuaolsen8844]

Would love to see you try to diagnose and repair on the PCB level!

[@anthonythurgood4059]

Hey Josh can you do a video of your race day would be interesting to see what happens on the day at a gp race

[@JoshuaBardwell]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zoulk6iZZdSMibM

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Everytime I have to take multimeter to these small quads I'm always afraid to hit 5v and grd together

[@licensetodrive9930]

A good headband magnifier with decent lighting should help boost your confidence & capability at dealing with these ever shrinking flight controllers. Last night I had to solder straight onto the pin of an STM32 to get RX2 working since Diatone in their wisdom didn't think to include a breakout pad for it on the FC in the Tina Whoop. Headband magnifier FTW.

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

@@licensetodrive9930 no way I could do. Wish I could. Got 2 bad fc in a row. Dji plug uarts wasn't working. And no pads for them

[@charlesmarseille123]

@@licensetodrive9930 you would think they would have thought that we'd like to use uart2 but... nope. uart2 reserved for the braves.

[@naitdawwg]

Another fpv problem of mine covered in one of your videos, thank you sir

[@sideburn]

The nice thing about being majorly near sited is we have magnifying glass vision for reading pc boards and soldering.

[@keithws79]

One time I crashed and my video went to static. I thought I had destroyed my VTX. Nope, it still had blinking lights. I did a channel scan and found it had somehow changed bands! It had little buttons to change band and channel, I figure something must have hit the button. It never happened again, but if you have static a channel scan is a cheap and easy check.

[@robbiefpv8900]

Just had the same experience, luckily enough it wasn’t the board just the 5v cam pad, thanks Joshua Bardwell your the man

[@moodefiant4279]

I've seen this on some boards when there is a format (NTSC vs PAL) mismatch between the camera and the OSD.

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

LOL I just got to the exact same point of troubleshooting on a whoop after trying 3 cameras. Thanks JB - even though I watched this 2 years ago, it is still helpful. 😎

[@no-trick-pony]

Ouch. Which AIO from BetaFPV was that? Wanted to buy the BetaFPV Toothpick F405 20A V4 for my micro long range built but if their AIOs just die like that.. Had the AIO of my Eachine trashcan fail suddenly midflight at its fourth flight. Started smoking. At least Banggood offered to send a replacement board - honestly didn't think they would. Still sucks.. :(

[@bonesandjones]

I love you. I never would have thought my FC was bad. (It still flies...just no video.) But I had exact same results as you. Off to get a new FC now!

[@wj625]

I have a mobula7 hd that has black screen when you arm and increase throttle. Video is fine when the motors aren’t running but as soon as you arm and start to fly, black screen. Anyone have an ideas? I’ll try some of the troubleshooting from here. Maybe it’s the board.

[@DjCjx]

I can sympathize with you on this one. Happened to my five inch quad. Literally went through the exact same steps. Now I'm 2 weeks out waiting on a new board. Incidentally it was on the xilo jb edition.

[@RakishRc]

I've got the same problem Just that I've got overexposed video with osd working but if I solder the video wires directly the video is good and well exposed..I think my flight controller osd/video part is somewhat damaged or bridged.

[@MCsCreations]

Great work, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😃 You know what would be fantastic? A wire with probe tips or something... So you could connect the video wires without dissoldering them. But unfortunately, I don't know a solution for that. 😕 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@jpsalis]

There's no easy way to do it without desoldering at least one of them, probably the wire that goes to the vtx, jumping them might work but it's always risky jumping pins on a live circuit

[@MCsCreations]

@@jpsalis Yeah, that's true as well...

[@MrStanni6365]

Also could switch over it over to tbs crossfire or tracer and use the fusion osd

[@HelloLegion]

his videos always solve my problem❤❤😊😊

[@calif94577]

Is there an option of soft serialing or using another trace/path instead of the “dedicated” one? Or could it be a resistor or some other surface mounted thing you can swap out?

[@FXSTCHIEF]

I have a TinyGo with the Caddx Loris camera and I had my video feed quit as well. My OSD was still present, but my camera feed was missing. I took the TinyGo apart (dang they are tiny) and found that the ribbon cable was partially unclipped. I clipped the one end down and presto - I have video again. Thanks for you video!

[@clazy9222]

I have a question, what happen if i have blackshreen without osd but no the all time, it is mid in fly, short, then the video signal come back?

[@beanbear9969]

Can any help me my tiny whoop C01 FPV Micro Camera is not working I don’t know if I have to order one or not

[@darumaprb8500]

hy Joshua bardwell I have the old fc f4 and I put the vtx in the flight controller and the cam too, and I see the old but black screen and them I put the video directly and the screen is black without old, what could be the problem the cam I think is the problem . why do you think

[@Fac-i1k]

Hi Joshua! Emu stock gives me a black (no video no osd) screen on stock settings (clracing f7 aio v2 + unify pro32 nano + baby ratel) but no issue on Bf 4.8... (video and osd ok) i missed something!?... 🤔 (Flashing emu / bf back and forth and getting same results....)

[@GamingKing545]

My r-xsr isn't sending any stick movements to beta flight can you help

[@LAFPV]

I got the same issue and the remedy that I did I moved the video terminal from camera and directly soldered to the vtx of nanohawkX. It works fine but no monitor for the battery on my goggles.

[@balajiprasad9046]

Thanks JB...I was about to throw my AIO camera from mobula 7 2s...i bridged Vin and Vout...now figured out the camera is fine.

[@Hugo27-h9k]

So I have a brand new aoi, plugged in the camera and turned on my goggles, black screen, no osd, but a flickering red number om top left, I think it's the bandwidth?!?!? Any idea what is broken?

[@eddyfeghaly]

Hello, my cam is already connected to the vtx not the fc and i have black screen i tried soldering it to the fc i stil have black screen, the joystick doesn't show anything, and i have 5v to the cam, im using cinebot30 analog and eachine ev300o with steadyview module

[@fivealert]

Same issue here.. But i see the osd.. But the camera is black.. When i direct camera to the vtx have a display on screen... Its it fc burn?

[@kame1991]

I had in few quads same issue just replaced from fried fc osd modules and starts working. But you need microscope to do that and hotair

[@longboarderebright]

on my jhemcu f7 supra 20x20 fc i had a black screen osd no video issue but the camera and vtx pads were flipped from the wiring picture i thought i had a defective board at first.

[@M0KVI]

So I have the same issue I will trouble shoot all the same points I've done 5v and checked continuity on pads. If I arrive at the same point does that mean I've killed my FC? I haven't even flown it yet just finishing the build. Heart broken if that's the case

[@adrianau4246]

Hey josh I got static screen and can’t see my vtx chart.. I went into vtx sa where it said pit mode I tuned it on & hit set and my drone tuned off and on with no camera and this problem .. any ideas

[@bligity1]

Having the hardest time getting video on my drone. I have a black screen, tested the camera and that works good also osd comes up on black screen. Flight controller is brand new. I have re-soldered everything. Help....?

[@-FARKI]

So i have a similar problem: black screen with osd, but if i disconnect and connect the battery, sometimes it works. Untill i disconnect the battery again. But the thing is, that im talking about a whoop, with aio fc. So only camera is separate. What can be the problem?

[@UnfairFrame653]

i like that the end is different every time

[@sgtsawhill1]

I feel your pain... took out 2 motors and an arm on my flight club PRoton. Both discontinued....

[@CaptainKush420]

I'm having this issue with my Mobula7 1S, but when I try a different pair of goggles, I get video and OSD. Part of me wonders if i need to replace my antennas or the rx module. I have been wanting to upgrade that, too..

[@d.d8-vr926]

I'm having video black out.. now I'm just hoping its just my quad and nothing else.. so I have some troubleshooting questions. Any help is appreciated as I a little stumped after I thought I figured out the problem and I'm still quite new into the hobby. 1. I'm having video black out as I fly away which I thought was a problem with my VTX or antennas, as I'm only flying about 30-40 metres away before it flickers black and the cuts out completely showing OSD. Even when I get up close to the quad to retrieve it, sometimes it does not reconnect at all and I have to disconnect and reconnect the power supply. I've tried the cables and I've kept the quad high and there are no interference near me. Tinyhawk freestyle 2 with caddx turtle v2 cam VTX at 25 and 200mV. 2. I changed to a different quad and found on my first pack, I had the same issue very briefly. Again I played around with the antennas and the remaining 7 packs I had no issues with the odd very minimal flicker from the second pack. (Protek 35 analog VTX at 400mV) 3. I switched back to my first quad and I managed to fly further out (about 80 metres), but after a while, it flickered black but didn't black out completely,. I managed to land it but then it it just suddenly blacked out and didn't recover (hitting it, wiggle the cables and tapping around it, until I disconnected the power and plugged it back in.) Updated: 11:10pm same day - After stripping apart my quad.. I have found that the 5v power and ground cable has deteriorated on the Caddx Turtle, which is very strange as the Caddx Turtle carried on recording in HD... ? How if the power was interrupted? maybe it's also the video cable?.. Good trouble shooting video. Helped me id the problem by back tracking each component. So final question. Can your fpv goggles cause blackouts and static? e.g. your antennas are not on properly, busted or dirty connectors? or a dodgy receiver? I have the eachine EV200D. I'm asking as I had a flicker with my second quad which is still a potential issue despite fixing my Emax Freestyle II, and I've also had the same issues with my tiny whoops flying 3 metres away from me and I completely lose video feed when usually I can fly around my house? Can dirty connectors on our antennas affect your feed that much despite I have a Quad set up

[@jpdodel]

Great video!! I had the exact same problem are was able to also narrow it down to the FC by wiring the camera directly to the VTX. THANK YOU!

[@bbblllaaaj]

If camera video wire was bridged for example, could that also cause black screen?

[@zaccheatum2786]

Can you do a video to troubleshoot a Caddx Vista with nebula cam? I have osd, but black screen. I think it could be just the cable, but don't know how to test it.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It's the cable. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYW8ea2Enqegn5Y&ab_channel=JoshuaBardwell

[@herphermits]

Hello Joshua. I have a black screen problem now, i have VTx signal coming out of the VTx, but no video on the screen display, and no OSD display either. I have checked my fpv camera and plugged it into another drone, at it worked fine. But using a different camera on the VTx got me the same problem. I followed your video till the part where you unsolder / solder the video wires from the fpv camera and the VTx from the FC. Which video wire from the VTx should i tap / solder together with the fpv video wire? From the FC to the VTx i see 2 video wire, one says V-out, the other V-in? BTW, i am using the GEPRC Stable AIO FC with the GEP-VTX200-WHOOP VTx. I hope you can help me. Thanks much!

[@E-LUV]

What does it mean when you have video until you fly 20 feet away and the screen goes black (but still have OSD)??? I got the nanohawk X and crashed about for a while flying LOS before putting the goggles on. So i don't know if i hurt something in a crash.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The distance to the drone should only affect the video transmitter signal, not the camera. So I have to guess the camera is shutting down because maybe it's overheating (and the fact that you're flying away is a coincidence). But bottom line, it sounds like the camera or the camera wiring is damaged.

[@E-LUV]

@@JoshuaBardwell It flickers to black. And as i walk to it, my fpv feed comes back in clear. Thanks, you're a nice guy. I wrote that wrong after checking, i DO NOT have OSD

[@transitionfpv6707]

My goes black when i turn on the trasmiter is loco, with osd sometime

[@stevedakin8321]

Hi Joshua, was the camera getting a positive voltage from the FC? I've had three quads that have failed like this.. Add an external 5v + feed or vbat if acceptable to the camera and presto I can fly again. 👍 Regards Steve

[@uppner147]

Might be the OSD chip (AT7456E) that's loose?

[@flyguycinematic6030]

I did exactly everything that I was watching you do. I also did another way of checking to see if torn wires were within casings of the wire that was good switch cameras that was good on soldered my OSD from the flight controller and it’s still giving me black screen

[@AliBFPV]

Get battery voltage from camera osd?

[@noname-xq5ie]

I do the magic thing , I reconnect to a 5 inch that never flew and than my shitty eachine box goggles work I'd that a thing or was it magic??

[@robertyoung534]

I have battery on the screen but no camera so what the hack is wrong is the esc bad camera

[@williamlosch]

This was my first major problem with my tiny trainer. Awesome tip on cross-referencing the fc with that bypass. I got lucky with my betafpv board and it just died over a year later! (esc) Cheers!

[@gru393481]

What if you bypass the fc and still get just a black screen?

[@ethanactive4508]

Hey Joshua love your videos my tinyhawks video gets static when I get past half throttle then it cuts out completely do you now I fix for it I have a eachine VTX o3s on the way would that fix it??

[@Volleyoghurt]

Do you use a cap on the battery?

[@shiggzitiz6463]

What would you suggest if when wiring direct to VTX or FC you get a black screen and no OSD? Im pulling hair right now.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

That indicates the camera is not powered up or the camera is not sending video such as the video output wire is damaged.

[@aowi7280]

How about a tutorial on the blackbox-tools?

[@cnaqsfpv2609]

I need help my cadax camera is not working it worked before but now it shows no video or osd just black screen?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Check the wires going from camera to FC. If they aren't broken, replace the camera.

[@cnaqsfpv2609]

@@JoshuaBardwell Wires look good, I also tried another camera and I still get the same results.

[@bbblllaaaj]

Can i get battery voltage telemetry from crossfire if i end up doing what you did and solder the video wires together to bypass the fc?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

You can get telemetry but not OSD.

[@bbblllaaaj]

@@JoshuaBardwell it works with my cam soldered to the vtx just like yours. Still black when i put it back to the fc. Is my FC done for or is there a setting somewhere that could cause this?

[@wickedevil6116]

my dji avata has a black screen with osd tried everything nothing works any way u can advise a way to make it work??

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Re seat the camera cable at both ends.

[@MAY-6ixteen]

mine dont even beep

[@alberqt209]

What if when I first power up the quad I get good video signal and OSD but it blacks out after a few seconds of flight time forcing me to save it LOS

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It sounds like the camera might be devective and overheating then dropping out. Just a guess.

[@alberqt209]

@@JoshuaBardwell thank you so much for answering my question, love your work, I've learned everything from your videos

[@MrStanni6365]

I had issues with the jhemcu 411 30a I had in mine I swapped it out for the tbs aio and its a much neater build

[@isaakyakolev2479]

All my caneras turn on black screen.. some after few flight few minutes.. the last one was b screen straignt out of the box… no matter the trx the wires the battery or the fc… any camera i touch..become black

[@CF_Joel]

Any pieces of conductive dirt in the FC?

[@eugeeuge488]

Put on the camera which voltage reading on the osd camera itself👍 happy flying

[@grabejud]

Same issue with mine, got black screen after the crash, part of the board 5v not working which i believe is powering the osd, a lot of headache to trace out as i plan to run a dedicated 5v bec. This is the awesome betafpv aio 12a. Sucks. My Mamba aio 13a still alive even if i soak it on rain water.

[@luissermaga7790]

i was getting this error after landing on Wet Grass after removing any wet grass and letting the drone dry completly it worked just as new.

[@BubbyFPV]

Put a spoiler on your kwad jb, it’ll fix all your problems

[@flavioanselmo3137]

OSD on flight controller died, i got the same issue with mine. looked like a small short circuit on the osd "legs" fried the OSD. i could even see a small burn on it

[@360_tours]

Do you have any idea why I wouldn't be seeing the OSD elements on the screen? I get perfect camera reception but no text

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Try changing the ntsc / PAL setting in the Betaflight OSD tab.

[@360_tours]

@@JoshuaBardwellI know what your suggesting. Its under video format. But for some reason, I'm not seeing that option. Maybe I fried the OSD chip?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Try plugging in battery before you plug in USB. If you plug in USB without battery on some FC, the OSD chip is not detected.

[@360_tours]

Thanks Josh. I did that and tried a different UART. It finally worked after a days work. I signed up for your Patreon and pledged 10$. It's too bad we cant just send it right away. Youll see it March 1st.

[@koki.k]

Maybe the OSD chip has pins with cold joints, or some small piece of grass is making short somewhere.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Worth a look.

[@Volleyoghurt]

Ultra sonic clean it and check or resolder the chip under a microscope. you can also check the voltage supply to the osd chip

[@soursham]

Truly a very helpful video thank you so much for all your work

[@moisthue]

What is camera joystick?

[@ToastyNWT]

Thanks for that, i had black screen with osd up still tried the direct wire from vtx didnt work, my camera stopped after a crash in snow and drying out so i just took the camera and hit it with brake cleaner all over and now it works again! Your guide helped me learn how to trouble shoot my cameras thanks also love your betaflight videos im a noob

[@baggszilla]

I love these troubleshooting videos!

[@alainassaf]

some cameras give battery voltage on their osd if you prefer it to telemetry

[@charlesmarseille123]

happy freaking flying to you 2 jb

[@emadalsharif1692]

What’s that thing you use instead of your goggles

[@docekalt]

I am quite courious about what will you do with this bad FC? Will you try to fix it, like checking solder joints, traces etc, or it will end up in trash?

[@MarcoGennai]

He can use a Caddx Vista taking osd from a Uart. I did it on the same problem.

[@johndaniels3889]

@@MarcoGennai only trouble is the betafpv only has two uarts

[@MarcoGennai]

Maybe one is for RX and the other (I think) for Smartaudio, that can be turned to Vista...

[@anti4354]

Oh this is a new format. Quite enjoy it!

[@Jacob-on5zh]

what about having video but no OSD?

[@catsigger]

I had a similar issue an cheap 20x20 fc. A change of the osd font brought me to the solution. Change it to bold font or some other of the BF fonts... Reset the fc & esc and check if it worked. I had trouble to do this, but after some tries it worked from then. I had to plug in a battery to update the freaking osd chip... Maybe it works for you. Good luck and happy flying 🐈

[@jofagoma]

Had the same issue last week. Landed on grass, the props has cut some grass into my FC in the OSD chip and I lost video. Now I use a clean feed from the vtx and I have set my radio to tell me battery voltage, just to avoid replacing the FC hahaha. I actually found really distracting the amount of info you get into your osd. Only matters if you want to troubleshoot a flight and see some stats.

[@dougpuntokz]

Finally a video on this problem on KZbin. Had my Roma L3, from the specs it can use ntsc or pal. When switch, one with black screen with osd but the other one working fine. So I think it was problem with the fc? Found this out even before I fly it. Maybe you can try switch between that two?

[@Raven-FPV]

I have a new build wich flys normal but i realized i Had No camera Feed . I Just get the black Screen with osd when unplug in the Lipo. I tried several Ground and voltage Pins in the FC, i've Changed cameras, i checked vtx Tables and everything, but still black Screen . Can anyone Lead me in the right direction? Camera and fc are bought used but seemed fine .

[@Raven-FPV]

Cam foxeer falkor , vtx i also Changed from new Zeus nano to another newer nano vtx. Both where working .and since i've See the osd i know that the FC is communicating with vtx .

[@floppyprops4472]

I have had a grey screen that says low res what does that mean

[@M.L.R.Z.]

I already had a hunch that the osd chip was blown up... I've had the same happen with me with 2 versions of the 4s betafpv aio boards

[@Hiasibua]

This was an entertaining vid to watch!

[@vaughanography8097]

Have you come across any apps for the FPV that allow you to plot automated waypoints routes?