3M Dual Lock Fastener | VELCRO SUCKS THIS IS BETTER

[@InvisiMan2006]

Velcro has a "service life" of 20,000 uses while the 3m dual lock can only get around 150 uses before it becomes weak. That's something to consider if you plan to fasten and unfasten your stuff often.

[@0xsergy]

usually dual lock I stick on to leave for a long period of time. but yeah, that's fair enough it is stiff plastic so its not gonna last.

[@NewMusicWeekly]

That's true for this low-profile Dual Lock. But the normal Dual Lock has a 1000-cycle lifetime.

[@williecunningham3725]

@@0xsergy I would like to put a power strip on the back of my rolling kitchen Island? Will it be best or Will velcro brand 10 pound heavy duty work better for constant plugging and disconnecting cords & cables and etc to the outlets???

[@0xsergy]

@@williecunningham3725 power strip fell off the underside of my cabinet after like 10 months of hanging there. i only used a couple tiny, tiny squares. like 0.5cmx1cm for a big power strip. use a bit more tape than that and it will last. imho this stuff holds way better than velco, velcro will be wobbly and might not hold when unplugging. I use dual lock to hold my motorcycle license plate on. 30,000 kms and 2 years in the sun and it's still on there. 4 squares in each corner of the plate, nothing crazy.

[@williecunningham3725]

@@0xsergy I have some #8 1inch multi surface screws and I spotted a small sized power strip with 3 electric outlets, 2 usb ports, and a c type port, so I will secure it with tiny screws instead of velcro to make sure it stays!!!!!

[@vinnyvasquez]

"You can see its very secure" **a few moments later** "I can pop it off reasonably easily" Buh?! No sale.

[@gmctech]

Been there, tried that went back to Velcro. Used the dual lock in a high vibration environment and it left me with shit flying everywhere, whereas as Velcro always got loose too but not as quickly nor as abruptly as dual lock, I always have ample time to notice my Velcro retained items getting loose before they go flying off into Oblivion like dual lock did to me..... I'm sure in a steady, vibration free environment where you're not releasing the item to be retained many many multiple times, dual lock is great but as far as I'm concerned Velcro is still the king for my HD applications. Lastly even though I disagree with you, thanks for taking the time to post a video of your findings and opinions. Always great to see someone take the time to post an informative video on here. :)

[@ikigai47]

i'll stick with velcro. budum-pish

[@Gabz532]

Say "I'll stick to velcro. Budum bitch"

[@alexjx1]

Dual Lock has many type. Don't buy the 400 type.... the "mushrooms" are very tiny and easily pull off if we pull it frequently. As we use it to secure battery we fall in that category. I use the 250 type, which works like a charm.

[@alperuzi]

We make fixed wing UAVs and we use the 250 version on all our planes. Beware of transmitters that heat up though. The double sided tape does go loose with heat.

[@TerminatorDuo]

I discovered these sticky pads do a pretty good for my battery's kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWOQgX2lYribjtU

[@DermitHypnosetantzt]

The comparison is not fair. He has to compare the 3M product with Velcro Alfa-lok, then Velcro is much better. Velcro has so much experience that they simply offer the best products

[@NewMusicWeekly]

3M doesn't recommend that the 400 be mated to itself. Rather, the strongest combination is 400 with 250: multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/998834O/3m-automotive-dual-lock-rolls-datasheet-english-germany.pdf#page=4

[@JM.COSMIC]

I just bought 3M sj3551 wich is 400 Didn't notice :((

[@mitchoswalt]

I can attest that the high profile is crazy strong when trying to pull directly appart. I have seen two people tear finger nails loose trying to get this stuff loose at work.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

When I originally put it on the USB hubs, I put a full strip on, and found I had to press too hard to get it to engage. I was worried about damaging my screen.

[@NewMusicWeekly]

Besides being weaker, the other downside of the low-profile version featured here is a 150-cycle lifetime rather than a 1000-cycle lifetime, meaning that it loses strength through damage much more quickly if it's regularly re-connnected.

[@dabooge]

My local dollar store started selling this 3m dual lock velcro. It's beige color but it's 1/2 the price of the hardware stores so whatever :) What I found was trying to slide the battery back and forth is pretty much impossible. Pulling straight up it releases much easier than the industrial velcro. I use a battery strap to hold the battery down so I find this 3m dual lock stuff better than the hook and loop type velcro because the hook & loop eventually wears out.

[@MathijsGroothuis]

I always end up with the glue sticky side letting go when trying to detach something.

[@pmpartners]

I use this on my some of my builds and it works great, 2500mah 3s mounted underneath 2 small sections about 1x2 no other straps. Holds up to some pretty good impacts.

[@badmofo350]

I picked up some of those lipo condoms which I've been using on my 4" quads instead of Velcro. They've actually worked very well to keep the battery from sliding under the strap and I like how easily the battery falls out once you loosen the strap. This stuff looks good though, I'll have to get some. Thanks for the info.

[@TYUJNBHJK]

It has amazing direct strength, but comes off as soon as you roll the item away. Awesome for holding a multi extension cable to the wall for chargers, strong enough to pull plugs out without any detachment

[@rnelias]

I don't use velcros bellow my batteries anymore. Just stick a soft rubber piece of something on your top plate, use 2 velcro ruberized straps as usually to hold the battery and it will not slip out anymore. I've been using the ping pong racket rubber. Very soft and sticky.

[@crispy1688]

I use this for my plane batteries... just dual lock along the length of the lipo, no velcro or strap around the battery is required. In fact, the adhesion is so strong that i can lift the entire plane (1.2-1.5kg) by just holding the battery! I usually get this from HobbyKing

[@haidiandalwang8685]

I was interested to learn velcro alternatives. I wouldn't say velcro sucks. For your application I agree that dual lock work can work better vs velcro. However many applications that dual lock system simply just not a viable option.

[@___xyz___]

They're just two different things. The dual lock requires more force to engage. The hook loop, on the other hand, is weaker, but gets caught faster, and may suffice or even be preferred on lighter objects. Dual lock is not the be-all-end-all of fastening systems as some people seem to preach.

[@thysonsacclaim]

Blah blah

[@davidringler7131]

JOSH, I am 47 and have been doing bodywork my whole life as my trade and the 3m doublesided tape is great there was another brand of tape that has a superglue type of adhesive in the tape its used to restick molding on cars the only thing is once you stick it on and press it is on there!! it would tear fresh paint of a car if you tried to remove it! thank you for all your help answering my questions about multis and all of your great videos!!

[@eliasrenner555]

How is this super double sided tape called? I have a few different double sided 3M tapes but I'd love to have something that's really strong.

[@ThomasMasterpiece]

I had this kind of fixing on a controller of my motorcycle to control the lubricant of my chain. As it was new, it worked great. After a half year (and approx 10 uses) it holds my controller anymore. I would be careful using it. When the mushroom-heads getting bend, it's not strong enough any more. Be careful ;)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yeah it has to be replaced every now and then.

[@higguma]

This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Jesus. Thank you so much.

[@mozby76]

Jesus: “you’re welcome, my child”

[@moxxy3565]

That's amazing that it makes an an audible click

[@danielgadowski872]

hi Josh. I've been using this for a while now on my quads in exactly the way you describe. what I have found thou is that sometimes in the crashes those mushrooms get sheered off and you have to replace the sticker. other than that no complaints

[@deepdivevr7244]

hi mate . on micro copters when using just velcro , batteries move a little sideways , wobble... creating extra momentum . big difference in controlling with velcro or mini strap. this product can help. thanks a lot.

[@ryan3859]

My main issue with velcro is I use more of the prickly side than the soft. I have miles and miles of the soft side, but not nearly enough of the prickly. The dual lock eliminates that problem.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+Kel Varndsen very good point! Helps make up some of the cost difference.

[@newfie-dean5803]

I had a hood liner on my car that was not firmly attached in all places. I tried 3M double sided tape on it. It never lasted. I tried 3M Velcro. It never lasted. I tried this stuff 2 years ago and it secured it perfectly in place and it has not budged since and you cannot even tell there’s anything there. I have nothing but good things to say about this product.

[@PCPointerDE]

Good idea to use the USB Hub on the notebook. Have something similar for my astrophotography equipment. The system itself is very nice because you can remove stuff very easy

[@DJURBANBG]

Is the Velcro glue strong, does it stick firmly to the wallpaper?

[@davidbullock6444]

3M dual lock and the velcro heavy duty fastener have completely different attributes from one another.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes indeed. If they were the same then how could dual lock be superior?

[@tristancliffe]

Grown up Stickle Bricks! Used this all the time in motorsport, it's great stuff.

[@JB-pb9xv]

I suppose it all has its applications, for example I can use velcro to attach lights onto the inside of a gun safe or like how some come with pouches, holsters etc. Attached onto the inside of the safe door and is kind of almost the only option, unless there are metal areas where a magnet will work. Otherwise I'd say that this stuff sounds like it out does velcro if you're looking for a pretty permanent or longer term application. Plenty of other uses I can think of, definitely one of things that's good to keep around or to keep a roll in the drawer..

[@newfie-dean5803]

This stuff is so much better than Velcro or double sided tape for long term mounting. Anyone who says differently has never tried this. I was very impressed by it. I had an engine bay hood liner that was not securely attached in all places. I tried Velcro and the double sided tape from 3M to secure it and neither lasted. I tried this stuff 2 years ago and it secured it perfectly in place and you cannot even tell it’s there.

[@stephenh7336]

I always love videos/articles where people tell you not to buy something but 'buy this instead'....and the price tag is always 4-5 even 10 times of what they tell you 'not' to buy...

[@JoshuaBardwell]

God forbid a superior product should also cost more.

[@stephenh7336]

God forbid you mention the hefty price in your advertisement

[@ryanmalvey429]

Only $10, not too much. www.banggood.com/RJX-Dual-Lock-Double-Sided-Attachment-Tape-Reclosable-Fastener-1000x25mm-Strip-p-1225071.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=CN

[@marybird2010]

superior only for what you're using it for! I've been looking for an alternative for cosplay armor attachment (I need something high strength and sewable) and this wouldn't be nearly as nice as using velcro since it comes apart so easily. I'd rather have a little give when I move and have it stay on my body than no give but it can pop off if I catch on something.

[@GlennMarshallRocks]

Hell, stop whining, will ya... you can find this stuff for around $4 - 5 all day long on eBay...

[@keithgilbert835]

I love this stuff. Use it on all my batteries and add it to me GoPro mounts. It is much easier to work with and and has a nice snap to it as you show here. Fun stuff!

[@itechhen]

Why the heck does everyone keep bringing up batteries with dual lock, don't you people put your batteries in any actual devices?

[@alanbrown397]

Memories of dismantling a Lotus Europa dashboard held together (ex factory) with this stuff. It's been around a very long time.

[@williecunningham3725]

Will this new stuff stick to drywall? And how long? I have an LED light pad I want to install that has some magnetic bond, but think it might give away and may need a second bond.

[@Edward-Norton]

I've tried a similar product. The only problem is this stuff holds too well. it will rip the heat shrink off batteries. You have to pry at corner and pry from there. For that reason i use velcro when it comes to securing batteries. Plus velcro is much cheaper.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Just use less of it.

[@maloriezastrow971]

My only argument for velcro would be that unlike dual-lok, velcro gives good vibration dampening.

[@johniboz1]

I'm restoring an old corvette that has a lot of broken fastener holes. I'll just velcro the door panels on! lol

[@singlecask]

I even used Dual Lock to attach a Gimbal, plenty strong enough. And if you do crash, it just separates. Never used it for batteries though. I will definitely try it.

[@Luke91633]

I want to Velcro a 40 inch tv to a padding but Judy not sure . I can’t do regular mounting .

[@newkeds]

The adhesive comes loose before the Velcro.

[@jovar7545]

Thanks for the great video! I want to attach my carorganizer Basket to the felt floor of my trunk. I want to try out velcro for this. Do you have an idea?

[@grecoserrano4477]

also try power grip pedal board tape... same concept, stronger hold.

[@7.62eclipse8]

I use that on all my pedal board and also to mount my racepac inmy turbo car

[@dominiclallande]

Was using this stuff back in summer 2015 for my batteries!

[@andreabaker2286]

Would this be suitable for stopping furniture cushions from moving around when you sit on them?

[@aharongina5226]

Don't feel too secure about dual lock, it doesn't hold a receiver module

[@ffs_fpv6713]

I use Velcro, well kind of, i just use hooks only, almost the same as what you are doing here

[@kampkrieger]

lost a gps transmitter on dual lock :(

[@mrkoper1003]

This is first time that you say"im joshua bardwell and you gonna learn something today" :)))

[@blackmennewstyle]

I think there is VELCRO & velcro lol I have always bought the one produced by Velcro Europe SA and i had never been disppointed! With a good battery strap, that LIPO won't go (almost) anywhere! But i will be happy occasionally to give 3M Dual Lock fastener a try :) Thanks for sharing and have a great week

[@juandavidyloquesigue1004]

I suggest you use magnets instead or rails made of PVC

[@dallonprofe]

How does it work with fabric? I'd like something other than Velcro to put up curtains in my van

[@rizkyp]

yeah i have been using it too for 3 years awesome stuff it doesnt wobbles either and doesn't have teo surface types like velcro.

[@mtx450]

Hah! Yeah this is good stuff. I remember buying a bunch of this after finding out what they use for the EZ Pass up here in NY. This is the same stuff they use in the kit to attach your pass to your windshield.

[@sprusedgoose162]

Same here!

[@jtcber]

I want to stick a mini car clock on the wooden dash. It will need to remove yearly to change the coin battery. Will the 3m work better or the Velcro brand hook and loop fastener? Will temperature affect the stickiness on both the back tape and the hook and loop?

[@MrBeerscuits]

Does it have any version that have a heat resistant sticky side? I'm thinking of using this inside the engine bay of a car

[@user-or7ji5hv8y]

Is it easy to remove the adhesive that holds the velcro the the object, after you no longer need the velcro at some point in the future?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Not particularly. But it does come off.

[@Mcdonaldt001]

We hang all our pictures with this stuff!! Landlords love it. No nail holes in the walls lol.

[@DJURBANBG]

Is the Velcro glue strong, does it stick firmly to the wallpaper?

[@peterwoo2489]

I am Peter Woo and I have learned something today. (Although I knew it already 😂)

[@TushTheTerrible]

Shoulda said im peter woo and i learnt something new

[@owenmalone8866]

Dual Lock on all my batteries and one long strip on top of quad + a battery strap If it is going to sit flat, this stuff is the best!

[@Soldier1287]

But can it stick to a car ceiling/headliner?

[@precisiont5188]

Is it moisture resistant? I need something to put my window shades up in my van. Would this work?

[@Plur307]

I use dual lock to hold my open log sd card device. It lets me bury it inside my copter where it is safe, but also unstick it so I can easily insert and eject the SD card.

[@loboquad2122]

Looks like something that needs to be tried, that's what we all do in the quad racing/flying world try and see what works best for us

[@jordanhansen8631]

Thumbs up for a good presentation, but Velcro looks like it'll be stronger, and will attach easier. Good to know this exists though.

[@samsonn25]

Is that a real clicking sound when it locks together??

[@BlocksPlayTV]

What is the thickness of those connected to each other? is it 1.7mm like on their website or is it just the thickness of one side?

[@sparrow082]

Could you try using this to mount your motors to the copter instead of screws? My thought is this might save a prop or arm in a crash, especially on a twig/thin frame.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+Adam Sparrow you are severely underestimating how much force the motors make.

[@FugPlays]

Adam Sparrow Hahaha hahaha ha. No don't be silly. But you cud try.

[@gailwagner8115]

I have absolutely nothing to do with radio controlled anything I only stumbled upon this because my stupid mat I connect to my step with velcro keeps coming off! I think this might be my answer I'll probably go to the standard.. who knew a 4-year-old video would help me.. 👍 TY

[@walkingcorpse1224]

Hi yes, can this Dual Lock stuff hold up something that's about 50 lbs? If not, is there a product u can reccomend similar to this or is there a Dual Lock that's even stronger?

[@DirtyRobot]

Velcro has suffered the same fate as elastic (rubber) bands. The quality has dropped in proportion to the amount of cheap products available. Now you can get these things in the $ store it is hard to justify producing high quality products. The high quality stuff is out there but costs much more money. When I was installing cable in a data center a bag of 100 straps cost about $35 and had to meet very strict code, mostly about fire resistance, but they were also superior to the standard velcro you can find at consumer level.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

For wrap straps, I think Velcro is fantastic. I've never really liked it for securing things to other things, but maybe I've just been using cheap Velcro.

[@gboulter]

Dual lock great on small things with large strips you can't get the whole length to reengage I used to attach VCRs to racing cars the best is 100mm wide High temp adhesive genuine Velcro. Try Dual Lock with Velcro loop massively strong but pretty permanent loops dont cope with parting from it

[@tomc1380]

The blue velcro from HK is the best/strongest I have ever used and seems to last forever; hobbyking.com/en_us/polyester-velcro-peel-n-stick-self-adhesive-v-strong-1mtr.html

[@gerrimiller3491]

Will this or velcro attach to leather purse?

[@danielecarbonaro1661]

would this be a good option to hang foam boards?

[@andycomella1726]

Which type to use to keep a big cell phone from falling when hitting bumps in a car ??

[@dexterkun4307]

Can the 3M dual lock stick on cotton fabric?

[@Hippo1251985]

Hey I like alle your videos! I learn. New things every time I watch you! I have 2 questions. How does dual lock compare to a Silicon anti slip piece? And from all your battery testing what are your top5 lipos?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I think the dual lock will hold better, but it does require sticking stuff to your batteries. Right now, the batteries I am most interested in are the Infinity graphenes from Banggood. The Indestructible Quads Black Label is a solid standard LiPo, although I think it is completely sold out right now.

[@Irigoyen4]

Hi Josh, Personally, I use a wide rubber band on each battery, so when it gets strapped down (preferably with a rubbery strap) the battery does not slide around at all. Cheap, quick, easy... By the way, the vlog was good, hopefully that petty stuff is put to rest. My opinion? Hey, at least you're wearing something!:) Later...keep the good stuff coming:)

[@FredPoissonPainter]

How much of the high grip stuff to hold 25 pounds? Thanks

[@welfaiewfb8802]

Velcro makes Alpha lock now

[@BarbequeJo]

by chance could you tell me the specific type of velcro that is? like who its made by and what its called.

[@Kimberlite66]

BarbequeJo the packet is right there in the background the whole time this dude is talking. That is the product. Open your eyes

[@zeronest6686]

always wondered what velcro this was, thanks!

[@meditationsoundscapes5203]

is this Ethan Philips?

[@jasong3522]

The best part to waking up, is Joshua Bardwell in your ears!

[@arfyness]

above the barcode, what does it mean: "closure life 100" ??

[@JoshuaBardwell]

+arfyness after 100 closures, the grip strength will be reduced to a point that 3M no longer considers it serviceable.

[@gabrieljordan9977]

@@JoshuaBardwell And you consider this better than velcro???

[@Rantyhoney]

Can You attatch it to faux leather?

[@godsun358]

Looks real good to me I will give it a try

[@michaelxhermes]

Will it stick to a settee cushion?

[@jossetishauser2040]

Dual Lock is way more expensive though(in Europe).

[@brendan6093]

I use this for hanging picture frames to the wall. I havent used it on my drones yet becuase i use a silicone sheet and lipo strap and hardly have lipos eject

[@DJURBANBG]

Is the Velcro glue strong, does it stick firmly to the wallpaper?

[@brendan6093]

@@DJURBANBG i think the sticky backing is fairly strong i only had 2 x pieces cut at about 40mm by maybe the width of the strip roughly 25mm one top and bottom I think they may pull paint off walls if not removed carefully. My picture frames were not huge though maybe A4 paper sized

[@DJURBANBG]

@@brendan6093 so its strong enought , i want to use it to attach acoustic foam to the wallpaper , i`ll give it a try

[@brendan6093]

@@DJURBANBG i would give it a go man but maybe test a panel first. If you plan on living there you could use a concealed screwing option im sure good luck with it

[@myhandlewasstolen2]

Be it strong enough to hold a small-mid size power bar?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Depends how much of it you use.

[@gavinvd1]

Great stuff for holding on batteries, so good in fact I ripped a top plate off my quad when the battery strap broke :p

[@NewYears1978]

Was excited then I looked it up, $37 bucks was the only roll I can find...

[@MemeBiologist]

what's the weight rating ?

[@Sunsetwalker88]

ALFA-LOK By Velcro will be the future you need

[@trapperjohn7571]

We used to call this stuff "gay velcro" It has its uses, but it's not a complete replacement for velcro, like mentioned elsewhere in the comments, it wouldn't be the greatest for a battery strap

[@edog1955]

Siri told me that Velcro is a rip off....but I don't believe everything she tells me.

[@realluser-smore-2519]

Wow Siri is not smart AT ALL I bet Siri doesn't know what velcro shoes are since she said velcro is a rip off

[@jhntknsn]

Is "Dual Lock" a special patented fastener that would require special permission to use in a new product? Is "Dual Lock" a generic name like "hook and loop"? And do you know if I can buy it in bulk from China?

[@theresareynolds5692]

can you use it underwater

[@JohnDoe-zf2zm]

I'm sticking velcros not a chance of using that stuff

[@onlyafriend]

dual lock sometimes get mini broken.. with the time, it's not really perfect

[@BoyntonArctic911]

You spent five minutes comparing a Velcro woven hook and loop product to a molded 3M product. Velcro makes molded products as well. Why don’t you do a side by side comparison of the same product made by the two companies before you say one sucks. Or consider doing a video on his Mercedes Benz is better than Toyota. Sick to what you know, which is apparently not much.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

First of all, welcome to the channel! Nice to have you here. Second of all, what I do know something about is how to optimize a video title so that it gets clicks. The point of this video is that hook and loop faster is not as good for this application as molded fastener. But "Hook And Loop Fastener Sucks, Molded Fastener Is Better" is a shitty title. "Velcro Sucks" is a fantastic title that gets clicks. As evidenced by the fact that you clearly have no idea about who I am or what my channel is, but you're commenting on this video. This video has over 86,000 views at this time, and is one of my top five most viewed videos ever. So trust me: the title works.

[@mr.simulator4724]

@@JoshuaBardwell oooooooooooooh ahahahah

[@matthewmcgann2931]

Nice! Good info, thanks. Going to try this.