FrSky X-Lite Pro and X9 Lite | WHAT IS ACCESS PROTOCOL?

[@Coreycry]

Was waiting for someone to clarify this and the Bardwell delivered, he always delivers.

[@michael3573]

Every time I want to stomp on a quad until it’s part of our floor, I watch one of your videos and take a breath. Thanks once again.

[@themadhatter196]

As always I love and appreciate the content you're creating. It helps so many of us in a field where the right knowledge is hard to find.

[@caveymon]

Got one, flashed with latest frsky radio firmware and nighlty opentx: I can confirm D16 works fine on the x9 lite. And access works too :) was a good upgrade from my flysky i6.

[@MarcoPolux]

How about D08? still functions? (Mine can't, is unable to bind to minis like the TinyHawk. ((and its up to date on 2.3.0 ....)) )

[@caveymon]

@@MarcoPolux afaik, D8 is still not available in the radio firmware, so you'd probably need to look at a multiprotocol unit.

[@softsmoken]

"Damnit" lol.. glad you didn't cut that. Great info man-Like always.

[@timothyciarlette8250]

Technology is so fricken kool, thanks for helping out Stabby FPV, she will be a star.

[@bmanske1]

Buying into Access now is paying to become a beta tester. When they make a radio that includes access and the older protocols then I will happily buy into it.

[@scorpionfpv6412]

They already do

[@bmanske1]

@@scorpionfpv6412 what I have heard so far is that it is not completely reliable. Yet. Have you had any problems with D8 or D16 protocols?

[@caveymon]

D8 is unsupported (legacy), d16 works fine on the rxsr (relevant firmware must be flashed on rxsr and internal radio module). It flies, no problems at all. But I am just one.

[@dj_dazzy]

Never flashed a D8 receiver they just worked. Not so in some of the D16 receivers.

[@fragmaster76]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqu4m5eIj850nJY

[@borg1874]

I'm now going to want to update the firmware to my X9D Plus SE. Nice review JB.

[@michelegermani1134]

sometimes i dont totally agree with your point of view. reviews hardly could be unpersonalized. but i really like your efforts to make non english spokenman comprensible what are you describing. if you stay on these roads, I think you will always be more followed, and you deserve this! great review today! Tnx

[@justinmorrow2932]

Love the B&W frustration

[@TechnicallyTom]

Fairly new to race quads. What I find confusing about the frisky radios is that you can bind one model to the same receiver number, but I don’t see anywhere to unbind a model from the receiver number. I have the QX7 and X-Lite Pro transmitters. I’m using the X-Lite Pro most of the time now and am not having any ergonomic issues although I have transitioned to pinching. I did purchase the neck strap mount and longer stick ends. I ended up buying a neck strap labeled “Made For DJI” because it was the only one I saw that had a fastener that looked like it wasn’t going to accidentally disconnect. I had this happen while flying with my QX7 and a different strap.

[@norgtube]

You just can't have 2 models flying on the same receiver number, that's all.

[@TechnicallyTom]

@@norgtube Let me explain in a little more detail. The first quad I bought was a Babyhawk R. I managed to lose it in a large field by crashing and having the battery unplug. I bough another to replace it, but found it later. Since I now had two, I copied one of the models on my QX7 but did not notice that it was set to the same receiver number. Later I noticed that I could fly either quad with either model settings, which I suppose could be useful if you always want the settings the same between the two. I had assumed that pairing a new model to the same receiver number would overwrite it. If it doesn't overwrite it, is there somewhere to list multiple receivers or do each of the receivers have the same pairing information since they use the same receiver number. Does pairing one of the receivers to a new number remove it from the previous number?

[@Ricky32908]

Hey, you didn’t mention the auto-bind feature! After it’s registered wirelessly, you can just turn on the transmitter and turn on the reciever and boom! Auto bind! ACCESS rocks! hey any tips on antenna? my receiver antenna keeps breaking, I’m not sure why. I make sure the props aren’t hitting it. even with the stiff plastic they’re breaking from landing in grass upswide down or from punching the throttle

[@marinehm]

Maybe you addressed this and I missed it. I have a QX7. Is it compatible with the new Access protocol? I am not buying a new radio just for this.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The hardware in the QX7 could run the ACCESS protocol, however Frsky has not announced a firmware update for the QX7 at this time. So for now, your only option is to buy a new radio.

[@ehunter2010ed]

Man I was super confused when you did the all modes or almost all modes on one channel watched it 2 times & was lost!! Hopefully I'm not alone on that one!!

[@BonemysterFPV]

I was blown too but then im like, well theres a range from 1000-2000 per each aux on betaflight so you can legit put a shit ton of channels in there.

[@fpvandgasrc4321]

Nice video.. can you put access o the taranis x8r plus as if today.. or do you need their new radios? Thanks

[@goethe528]

6:55 there is firmware upgrade for the internal module on the frsky website. With that you get D16. Biggest 'problem' so far, are the experimental openTX nightly builds. There is no stable firmware available yet. I use a nightly build and have no problems so far. Love my X-Lite Pro.

[@zimzillakilla]

The issues are there is no real opentx2.3 and frsky released the new rx with no real firmware hahahhahaha all nightly builds work flawlessly since n14

[@arnerrvik7586]

Exellent stuff, Bardwell. Thanks a bunch.

[@Lracnolip]

Thank you! You are the first reviewer to talk about the new frsky protocol. Josh you are the man and shown your self to be a true reviewer of rc tech, thank you. Now lm just looking forward to seeing some test. Great video 👍👍👍👍👍

[@Unsub223]

Hey Joshua another great vid. I can’t wait for your Q&A tonight. I thirst for more knowledge 👊

[@gammagonad1657]

I have the original X Lite transmitter, running the R9M Lite Pro. It wasn’t originally compatible. FrSky silently released firmware to support it. This means that I have D8, D16, and R9M w/ACCESS. I REALLY dig the combo. You can’t have that with the X Lite Pro. That’s why some people hate it.

[@joeolison215]

Brian Ladmirault do you have a video of this, I have the R9M 2019

[@manuelfalcon334]

Again thank you so much for your help

[@IanMaddox]

Hey Joshua, what TX do you fly with most? Which would you fly with more often if it weren't for XX feature/problem?

[@kirkglundal4289]

I like that you included your witty banter! Lol How about solder a lead to your bind button and move it somewhere convenient!? I have given pause because of this whole ACCESS thing but think I will still try ACCST soon. Still flying 72mhz currently. Haha Who needs a bind button? Lol!

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

i need to either make a 5v power to plug in to receivers or a xt30 on a switch.. to hold bind and easily hit a button to give power

[@sorenb.4173]

As my favourite radio I still use a decade old rebranded wifly wft09 with the frsky hack module and as backup a old, futaba radio with the frsky module. Really don't need more cos the way I fly my drones I am never more then 400m away. Only problem is that d8 receiver with good range and proper rssi are getting rare. With the small 2inch quad I love flying through the woods, but if I crash I have a really hard time finding it even within 100m. also video cuts out long before the old d8 rc link in the woods.

[@philippeglur]

Thanks Joshua - you have been a saver of many hours of frustration in my attempts to get FrSky stuff to work, or even understand. How, for example would I have found that I have to have the same registration ID on both TXs to be able to switch from one to the other... FrSky wouldn't tell...

[@FreeMark]

Do you have a video of you putting all your modes on 1 channel?

[@JasonParham83]

A year later with all of the drama and firmware issues worked out is there any chance you can do a video series on FrSky, ACCESS, R9, and FrSky's 2020 gear?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The drama and firmware issues have continued. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmrKZoCcicmcr9k

[@WhiskeyGunner]

So I have a qx7 access, and I want d8 for whoops. Can I just get the xjt module for d8, or do I need a new radio?

[@gilfallorina2320]

You have to have the quad you're sharing powered on in order for the share to work. You also have to know which channels do what so you can assign your switches.

[@vanawaker]

Thank you for the video, that's help me a lot

[@isbestlizard]

HEY are these protocols documented anywhere? like, literally, the way receiver and transmitter bind and how channel values are sent etc?

[@rkelley8475]

So this has a 900m transmitter and 2.4 ???

[@JoshuaBardwell]

No, it's 2.4 only.

[@rkelley8475]

@@JoshuaBardwell does it have a Jr moduel bay ? Or the x lite syle bay ?

[@manuelfalcon334]

Thank you so much for you help with the no arm flag I was getting..... on that note are you selling any of the x-lite remote you reviewed... I really interested in the x-lite pro.... I also have another question if I get the x-lite pro do I need to change all my receivers in my drone.. in running x4rsbus on all of them, LOL I know they’re old but never have had a problem with them

[@h2o-fpv623]

So all the transmitter have that option?

[@EnglishTurbines]

As ever, amusing and informative.....Be patient, ACCESS will become available on our X9Ds...lol...Entertaining video, well done.

[@craigreynolds4449]

Joshua please can you do a video or have you one already on how to change the power output when using access?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

When using 2.4 GHz the output power is fixed and cannot be changed.

[@craigreynolds4449]

@@JoshuaBardwell Sorry using the R9M 2019 also how do you define 868 or 915 when using the flex firmware

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Model setup screen, External Module section.

[@jamesfilms9024]

I cannot register a UR65 to access protocol. I’m assuming the Drone is the problem?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Correct. The drone does not have an ACCESS capable receiver. You must bind in D16 or D8 mode depending what receiver the drone has.

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic job, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😊 From what I know (and, of course, I could be wrong), the hardware is the same of the other FrSky radios. What changes is only the firmware, really... And looks like ACCESS is coming to every FrSky radio with OpenTX 2.3. But, well... Let's see. 😊 I'm just worried about 2 receivers I have here that only outputs PWM. One is FrSky and I'm going to put it in a wing and the other I have no idea... And I'm going to use to make a hovercraft (using depron). So... Fingers crossed. 😕

[@Bill-NM]

Thanks Joshua (and sorry if I missed it) --- Dumb question...can most older Frsky receivers and transmitters be flashed to Access? Does OpenTx need updated as well? Thanks...

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Only new radios can run ACCESS. I cannot run on old hardware.

[@Bill-NM]

@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks Joshua...meaning a person can NOT flash Access onto ANY existing radio/receiver...the radio/receiver has to be bought new from FrSky. Nuts. :) OK - thanks.

[@Bill-NM]

@@JoshuaBardwell OK...I wanna clear something up...as far as I understand it. Owners of certain radio modules and receivers CAN upgrade them to ACCESS...I have a couple R9 Slim+ and R9MM units I bought in the fall of 2019 that have both ACCST and ACCESS firmwares listed on their FrSky download pages...also my R9M radio module (the one with the XT-30 connector on the back) ALSO has an ACCESS firmware download. But, my radio itself, an X9D Plus that's a couple years old, is NOT ACCESS compatible...so I can't use ACCESS at all. Anyway I just wanted to clear that up as I thought NONE of my previously purchased hardware was compatible with ACCESS.

[@dash8465]

All you need to know starts at 17:40 Glad I picked up a new X9D plus (and Crossfire) before Frsky completely looses their encrypted (aka proprietary) mind.

[@pfabiszewski]

Thanks for vid! Do you have any updates if Access will be available on older radios and receivers?

[@keereelewah4524]

All prior radios will (eventually) be supported, and all X series and R series receivers will (also eventually) be upgradable to ACCESS. See: www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3265449-FrSky-new-ACCESS-protocol-release and www.frsky-rc.com/frsky-advanced-communication-control-elevated-spread-spectrum-access-protocol-release/

[@Silor]

16:55 FrSky Crossfire . Savage

[@traxfpv]

Is there also a updated OpenTX firmware that one would need to update to use the Access protocol? Thanks for the vid!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The ACCESS radios come with the correct firmware pre-installed. You can't upgrade a non-ACCESS radio to support ACCESS.

[@traxfpv]

@@JoshuaBardwell Ok that makes sense. Thank you for the reply!

[@larsulrich3356]

Can I use stick flying mode 3 on an xlite and how do I do it?

[@short5stick]

Will Jumper T16 ever get ACCESS?

[@noahreinhart3555]

Hey Joshua, I know you said something about wanting to keep access videos flowing. I was messing around on FRSKY site yesterday and noticed r9 is available now. just a heads up if you weren't aware.

[@hunterfiet9858]

I just recently bought the X9 lite and tried binding it to my XM+ receiver, so of course I go to KZbin for an answer and all I am seeing is I have to update the transmitter along with the receiver to get this to work? I can't just bind it normally with D16 at all?

[@constantineb6433]

I have similar issues. Trying to bind QX7 access to XM+. I think receiver needs update

[@hunterfiet9858]

Right but I'm not sure it's compatible with the XM+ at the moment cause I can't find anything to download for it

[@AndrewBlanche]

Can you use fport when running ACCESS. Haven’t seen or heard it spoken of.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

ACCESS is the air protocol. I would expect that the receiver can still output FPort over the wire. However I'm not sure a firmware exists that actually does this.

[@ChrisBalmforth]

18:30 : "... X9 Lite - you don't have to use ACCESS if you don't want to." Not true! X9 Lite doesn't run D8 or D16, which is why I cancelled my X9 Lite order. I understand the same will be true if you flash ACCESS firmware on your X9D or X10 when it becomes available. This screws things up for existing FrSky receiver users.

[@ddegn]

I thought there was a firmware update to the X9 Lite which allows it to use D16? I just found the video where I saw this. The video title is *Taranis X9 Lite ACCST D16 Firmware Upgrade* on *Albert Kim's* channel. I'm personally going to wait a while before getting an ACCESS radio (I may never purchase one). I really don't like some of the stuff FrSky is doing these days and I'm not sure I want to continue to buy their stuff.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

X9 lite has firmware upgrade to allow D16.

[@marked23]

I see that FrSky changed their mind (as of today?) about not supporting D16 on new TX models. This whole "nobody can make accessories for our products, except us" has established enough FUD in my mind, that I'm holding-off buying a new TX. My JR 12X is well worn, but still functional.

[@fredericmorin]

A firmware update for the X9Lite came out 2019-06-05 and add support for D16. the update include both opentx firmware and internal radio firmware.

[@ChrisBalmforth]

Thanks everybody, it looks like FrSky finally gave in and did the sensible thing.

[@patdonovan5106]

Joshua bardwell have they cameout with firmware for d8 and d16bto use older xm+ receivers

[@JoshuaBardwell]

D16 yes. D8 no.

[@Nicklz5555]

Hey Joshua, when will you review the new x9d plus se. And more importantly are you still using the jumper t16? I couldn't deal with the clicky center of the gimbals and thought they felt rather cheap. 🙊. Now I've ordered a taranis x9d plus se 2019 and I'm suprised there's hardly any content about it yet. looking forward to yours 👍

[@dj_dazzy]

Hi Joshua, what's your thoughts about the new PMU in these transmitters? Looks to me like it is a blatant act to disable 3rd party or DIY tx modules from working.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Of course it is.

[@pksteffen]

I really needed 24 channels (not), I don’t have quads that use D8 (do - multiple such as popular Tinyhawk v1), I like the idea of spending $40 to add a dumb dipole multi-module to an expensive X-lite pro which I plan to buy (double not!). Long time Frsky buyer of multiple transmitters and many receivers but might be time to check out Jumper. I’ll superchat to support you Joshua.

[@elvisbergero3416]

Mr. Bardwell do u know if X9 Lite has quad ball bearing gimbals?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Hahahaha definitely not. I mean... I don't know for sure but at a price of $79 no way.

[@elvisbergero3416]

Ty :)

[@short5stick]

I have the X10s Express and I am switching to the new Jumper T16 Pro. One more upgrade Jumper needs to do is change the Mini USB to a Micro USB and USB charging.

[@jackcook8111]

Do you think ACCESS will become available for the X9D and QX7 in future firmware updates?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It looks like FrSky intends to do that.

[@TiredFlyerFPV]

Got an x9 lite, but haven’t installed any access receivers on yet. So far did the nightly 2.3 update and got r9 working at least 😁.

[@cwdgamedev1017]

Unable to bind R-XSR to Taranis QX7 ACCESS. I get as far as the Reg step but even though the RX shows the red and green solid lights, the transmitter never finds it. It just says 'Waiting'... 😢

[@BuuFPV]

JB, I got problem binding Taranis X9 Lite Pro and the mew R9 M Lite Pro. I already flashed new firmware to both of them, I still can't make it work to my R9mm receiver.

[@frankrivers4653]

What's your opinion on the new signal encryption feature? What advantages/disadvantages does it offer?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The main advantage is that it keeps FrSky's competitors from copying their tech. From a user perspective, there is no advantage.... frequency-hopping, like used in ACCST, is its own form of encryption. When have you ever heard of somebody hijacking a control link.

[@adavies971985]

Why couldnt they build R9 into either? I would have considered upgrading if so.

[@olafschermann1592]

Typa Fpv watch out for the coming Horus X11 which can 2.4Ghz AND 900Mhz builtin

[@stonedDawg]

so you put all your mode in 1 channel by making each mode is 1 bit to the 16bit (or 32 bit) of a channel? can you teach me how to do this?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6WaeaOjot6Si9U

[@afifathnin]

is this updated to the latest firmware?

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

I like how FRsky says buttonless bind.. then like first line on instructions hold bind button lmao

[@countryboymotovlogs926]

Joshua being new to frsky, i purchased a new qx7 and didn’t realize it was access protocol until hell a week after i got it. It came with the r9m module. My question is (to anyone that knows) this was for long range fpv wings and does this keep me. From using Crossfire??? Or am i stuck with the R9M access for long range, open tx is confusing to me period, now here we have this new protocol, now i know why no one is flashing there d-16 radios to the access firmware. Any help appreciated on my crossfire question. Thanks

[@ericwil76]

You needed to update the X9 Lite to the latest firmware and it will now support ACCST D16. So it is backwards compatible. The X9 Lite does have Freq scanning but no power meter.

[@dj_dazzy]

Not sure why you need a spectrum analyser. The frequency hopping should cater for virtually all interference apart from military ecm.

[@ericwil76]

@@dj_dazzy I dont was just highlighting the differences

[@dj_dazzy]

@@ericwil76 Yes that is fine but I was pointing out it is not much use unless you want to find out your wifi router is working :)

[@du4-fpv777]

Maybe if they bring the protocol to the original radios, r9 modules and receivers! Other than that they can keep it! I don't firmware upgrade enough. And this is probably what is going to push me to the Crossfire from the r9...... And I will see what an r9 module will look like after a 20lb press! Thanks for the great radio I MEAN video @Joshua Bardwell

[@thewiksta]

Fml! How did I not know that crossfire auto goes to bind mode after a while??? I shrink wrap and bury my receivers and fml when I want to upgrade firmware. Thanks B$.

[@ghiss46]

How do you update firmware ota

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It turned out that none of the existing FrSky receivers were given OTA update capability. Only the R9 2019 edition and the new line of Archer receivers can do it kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGrRkKp6g71rps0&ab_channel=JoshuaBardwell

[@ghiss46]

@@JoshuaBardwell thank you very much I appreciate response

[@avelkm]

So will those radios work with old accst protocol (without any changes to receivers)? So I could sell QX7 and buy X9lite, I just hate QX7 size/weight/shape

[@mastermoarman]

I'm guessing this wont work with a regular x lite?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

There have been some rumblings that firmware update will allow ACCESS support on older radios. But at this time it can't be done.

[@humbertocortes68]

Hi again JB. Excelent video like ever... Ive a fool question... Ive loking for a long time and nothing damn! How i bind a SPI (D8) with ie. A taranis x9 lite pro...??? Thanks in advanced....

[@JoshuaBardwell]

You cannot. The new ACCESS radios cannot do D8 mode and they never will according to FrSky. You need an external module that has D8 capability to make this work. I do believe FrSky makes one.

[@humbertocortes68]

Ops... Thanks alot... Ive ths taranis qx7 working with two drones, an acrobee SPI RX , and a FURIBEE gt215 with a r-xsr RX... And i like change to the taranis x9 lite.... What external module u sugest to me... Thanks again from heart... U are the best on knowledge... Really an autority... (i learn acro with ur youtube tutorial serie of FPV Rider and your Master PID tuning class too) 😊!(and sorry about my bad english)!!!

[@joeolison215]

Joshua Bardwell could you let us know which external, I have the R9m 2019 is that possible to get D8?

[@jas-FPV]

No opinion on encryption???

[@dj_dazzy]

No because it is pointless....apart from making the protocol difficult to reverse engineer.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Show me one place where anybody has hacked somebody else's control signal.... The encryption is to limit reverse engineering. From a user perspective it's irrelevant.

[@jaredlaskey]

I just purchased the FrSky Taranis X-Lite S. For freestyle and racing, is there any point or signal advantage in getting the R9M Lite Pro module if I am not going to be flying further than 1km from takeoff point?

[@djwilson48625]

Jesus jumped up Christ. This tech changes so fast, I'm over it.... I just want to fly.

[@aadvaithmandampully3279]

What about the x-lite ?

[@stoiczfpv]

i love my crossfire 😍

[@adamf1765]

Hi, can Jumper T16 use this protocol? because i cant bind it with my R9M and R9MM receiver do i need to reflash them to accst?

[@boratsagdiyev1586]

so when i order an x-lite r9 Lite R9MM Rx im ready to go or do i need anything else. Does the Module come with a rubber ducky or do i order the antenna seperately?

[@stevefox3763]

No idea what the latency of FlySky AFHDS 2A is but I can't say I've ever noticed any lag whatsoever, the instant I move the sticks my servos respond. Latency is also more than just the protocol, the hardware encoding and decoding will also affect the measurable response and two different tx's or rx's running identical protocol will differ slightly but you would need lab equipment to measure it but I think you'd need that to genuinely discern any difference between old and new protocols anyway :) I think this obsession with latency is like the craving gamers have for frame rates humans can't even see. I get high latency in video does make a difference but some cameras can inject very high latency to the point where it's very noticeable but control latency is already so low I can't imagine anyone can really tell the difference and faced with numbers on paper convince themselves they can feel the difference lol

[@Red5FPV]

The difference in 100fps to 240fps in a game for a supported monitor is really noticeable so ... poor argument there. As for protocol latency, I absolutely notice a difference in latency between sbus and crsft

[@JoshuaBardwell]

You're talking about refresh rate not latency.

[@Red5FPV]

@@JoshuaBardwell I was merely commenting on their bit about frame rates that gamers supposedly can't see.

[@stevefox3763]

@@JoshuaBardwell no, I was talking about latency, I just gave the gamers and framerates as an example of something else people chase numbers on even though the majority of people can't actually discern above around 150-200fps. I've not looked at all your videos so don't know if there's any in your back catalogue but I was wondering do you ever fly fixed wing or do you fly exclusively multi rotor?

[@stylesuxx]

So, can we call it D24?

[@jameshaladus9165]

Mr Bardwell thank you for the video, I’m reaching out because I cannot bind my hours x10s express to my acrobee light there is no option for d8 any suggestions on what to do ?

[@joeolison215]

James Haladus me too, my question is Is there a way to get D8 mode on qx7 ACCESS with r9m 2019?? It’s for a Emax that uses D8 mode only, or should I just send this receiver back (and get the ACCST) before it’s too late??

[@jlarson42]

Can my QX7 be made to work with access? If I buy the new radio can I fly my whoops, aren't most whoops d8? Thanks for the informative video. 👍🤓

[@fdsfpvquadventures1141]

Currently D8 won’t be supported in Access.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Older radios cannot currently be made to support ACCESS. But the hardware could support it if they release firmware.

[@jlarson42]

@@JoshuaBardwell okay, thanks. I'm interested in the new protocol but not enough to buy another radio. At least not at this time. 🤓

[@ntalmate]

X9 lite 🤔, now we know what's new, but worth the upgrade from the budget flysky fs-i6x ( moded with jumper ts80g v2 hall sensor gimbals)?

[@MrBumbles2]

trainer jack,, to share ?

[@dizzyfpv4903]

yes

[@jtroutt19]

I will purchase the xlite pro when they get access working on the R9 stuff.

[@moepZ]

hey joshua, i ve a big prob with the x9lite and binding to my betafpv75 pro2, really hope u ve any idea... Tx: taranis x9lite eu-lbt Fc: F4 aio 1-2s frsky spi d16 fcc i installed the update for accst16 support, then i flashed opentx to nighly version and the int. modul from eu-lbt to fccand set protokol to accst16 and everything theems working. in betaflight the spi_rx is set to frsky_x for d16. when i try to bind, nothings going on, get no connection...i tried now 3 days, but i stil didnt get it working so i think U ARE MY LAST HOPE😁 or i have to buy frsky xm rx with eu-lbt d16... i m happy for every tiny tip i get👍THX

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Did you do the complete upgrade of the radio, including update the power module? See Albert Kim's video for full instructions.

[@moepZ]

@@JoshuaBardwell yes i did... all updates done, isrm-n update from 1.1.2 to 1.1.3 and i can switch between eu lbt and fcc, opentx is flashed to 2.3.0n49 and newest betaflight is flashed

[@Nicklz5555]

@@moepZ I found the latest 1.3 isrm version didn't let me bind to an xmplus so I rolled the internal module back to 1.2 and it's all good. Hope that helps

[@calvin_E]

werd. waitin a few months to upgrade. great postwork and content

[@mdk42o74]

when i fly fpv i don't see or feel the latency that much the only time i see or feel it is if im flying line of sight thats when i can tell the dif in latency the most. i love my xlight and i just got my new xlight pro up and working just did my first test flight and i will say it feels good in the air. is it worth upgrading yes and no yes is if you can part with $200. There is nothing wrong with the old xlight the gimbals dont feel $200 better the flight only feels maybe 1-3% better. ACCESS i feel could be a big game changer for frsky only time will tell all the options and possibility of what could be and what may be comming i feel is good for somthing new to come out because now they have to put $ into it to make it better and better unlike the old system thats been the same for years now. new stuff is coming that the old systems are not going to work with.

[@glyde79]

not convinced that we really even need this access protocol

[@roymoon1]

It's a solution to sagging receiver sales.

[@glyde79]

@@roymoon1 Haha yep

[@AndrewBlanche]

There’s a d16 update. Albert just put video up about it.

[@scooterfpv8864]

Interesting .

[@sqb3832]

greetings as always very good video and I also ask for your help tube a fall by a branch ninja with my drone and cai but not strong alone was filled with soft mud the drone did not cut nothing clean it and everything worked only the video transmission no longer probe the vtx and the camera with another pbd and they worked perfect my fc is a DAL RC405 I do not know if it was misfiring or something with the fall but it was not strong I do not know if it can be fixed by betaflaight or in exchange for FC greetings to all and Thank you.

[@TAGE_FPV]

how this archaic system of open tx is something we consider good for users blows my mind.

[@thefpvyawthority8106]

Put it on a circuit and time yawself. Then you will notice the latency.

[@FilipRadelic]

It's just a bunch of pointless gimmicks used as an excuse to try to lock newbies into a proprietary system. It all sounds cool in theory, but in practice it doesn't bring anything useful to the table for most pilots but takes away backwards compatibility and competing module compatibility. The only receivers I ever *had to* update were R9 because I was hoping each new update would make them failsafe less. If you care about sharing quads, you could bind them to external modules (you can get a 4in1 that supports virtually any 2.4GHz receiver for $30-35 that fits into pretty much any radio on the marker except these two) and swap those along with the quads (or, you know, just mount your RX so the button is more accessible if you want to use it again) and you could share the model files via SD cards within seconds. Spectrum alanyzer and power meter...rofl. Channel map on the RX is genuinely useful but just another thing they couldn't bother to properly copy from TBS. Latency is still not close to Crossfire so people that care about that won't suddenly switch to ACCESS anyway... If they wanted to make something new and genuinely useful, they could have open sourced the protocol and let anyone use it without fees (right now the name is pretty ironic). Then make some nice hardware that people want to buy because it actually works and is reliable and/or have customer service that you can reach when your radio eats its own antenna cable and fries its RF board as a result of transmitting without an antenna after 4 months of use. No one in their right mind should ever buy another FrSky product.

[@Haeaeaeaeae]

Q X7? The antenna problem? Oh I'm not alone😅

[@FilipRadelic]

@@Haeaeaeaeae Yes, Q X7. No, you are not alone, I only realized what happened because I found others 😅 It's a really bad design, I'm genuinely surprised it doesn't happen more often ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@doom3crazy]

I think the access protocol is going to be coming to older radios as well such as the qx7 and x9d

[@roymoon1]

I doubt it. They want you to buy a new xmitter. Then force you to buy their receivers forever.

[@doom3crazy]

@@roymoon1 I've confirmed with frsky the access protocol is coming to older transmitters as listed above. The biggest feature included will be the OTA updates. The biggest difference is that access will be more limited in features on older radios. The older radios wont get the better baud rates/latency features like the new transmitters will.

[@roymoon1]

@@doom3crazy So upgrade for less? Sign me up! I still think it's just talk. I've been in electronics for 45 years. I've heard this promise before.Too much risk and time on their part for too little reward.The risk is customers bricking their xmitter. Talk about pissed customers. Reward the sale of $30 receivers? Vaporware I call it.

[@doom3crazy]

@@roymoon1 Yeah I hear ya. Idk. To me it would seem like a really dumb move not to support older radios. Plus upon announcement of Access it was said by frsky that all older products would be getting support. Even if they come out with a new x9d and qx7 "access" versions, they really can't expect people to go out and buy a new TX. I feel like that would sink them so quick but then again, who knows lol

[@mick7sp]

What it is..... A way to lock out competition!

[@Haeaeaeaeae]

I waited long for news about ACCESS and still don't know, what's going on. So I could fly D16 with one of these new Radios and/or I could update all my Receivers to ACCESS. That's good...but I heared, a downgrade from ACCESS to ACCST isn't possible? So I'm trapped, if I upgrade? My "old" FrSky Radio is useless, if all my Receivers run ACCESS?! Will there be a ACCESS Firmware for older Frsky Radios and could I downgrade to ACCST? So....I'll wait and watch out for new Videos..😎👍

[@Haeaeaeaeae]

@UCbLiBeJK2ID67nuO1Fc2Lsw I could test it, flash a R-XSR to ACCESS and back to ACCST....but I heard, there is a problem with the bootloader and so I'll wait o.O

[@JoshuaBardwell]

You cannot flash a receiver back to ACCST after going to ACCESS.

[@roymoon1]

@@JoshuaBardwell That locks you into buying their receivers forever. Good for them, bad for you.