DJI FPV very short range? Your MSP connection might be why.

[@Dingin4]

I had an extra Vista laying around and I put in in my old analog Crocodile Baby 4" to breath some new life into the quad., and what do you know, stuck in low power mode. JB to the rescue! I seriously hate to think how much harder this hobby would be without him. I doubt anyone has made a greater contribution to this hobby that Joshua Bardwell. Thank you sir!

[@jimb0wie]

I learned something today! I’ve completed my first build. Many thanks to Joshua for all of the invaluable info. I’ve gone from no knowledge or build skills to operational FPV! Thanks so much.

[@ChrisHensley2]

I am new to FPV, my quad is on order have not flown yet. Already getting ready to train in a simulator. However I have been watching all of Bardwell's video and Rotor Riots, I am very excited to be joining this hobby.

[@matt0725]

Welcome to the hobby!

[@dyslexicfrog7426]

Welcome, it gets very very addictive. Im now on 5 quads build in around 3 months. The DJI FPV is going up for sale, as it just does not compare. You will love it, but do practice in that sim as its very different from normal drones.

[@aadharshj10]

I joined like a month ago

[@TOP_GUN_FPV]

@@dyslexicfrog7426 except you can fly the dji for as far as you want - failsafe and it'll come back every time...you are going to loose a lot of quads trying the same thing. dji fpv drone is a beast of a drone.

[@dyslexicfrog7426]

@@TOP_GUN_FPV I disagree. I dont like flying the DJI FPV, it's clunky, doesn't handle anywhere near as good as a 5" and although I have never crashed it, I wouldn't like to give it a try. All of my built quads have GPS and whilst I agree that the system in the DJI is awesome, I never fly passed 500m anyway. And I really enjoy flying something I have built myself.

[@brianpollard8277]

Luckily don’t have this issue but I always watch your videos and I always end up learning something. I’m getting the most out of my DJI FPV when I’m more informed.

[@jimreynolds8284]

low power mode unable to record wont work what can i do

[@murphyking79]

Man, this JOSHUA BARDWELL guy is AMAZING!! Last time I built a quad was when the phantom 1 came out and I built this massive aluminum frame quad with 10" props. That seemed to be the norm back then. Thank you Mr. Bardwell!!

[@bobturner3388]

Josh,your child is getting so big and beautiful! I remember those days and how I wish I had them back! Time flies, our children become adults overnight it seems. There will be a day you pick up your child,set him down and it will be the last time you ever get to do it! Enjoy it all before it's gone! I'm a little jealous Oh, great video as usual. Thank you!

[@Chuck_Carolina]

I don't even fly quads anymore and this guy is still the smartest guy on the planet about them. Like a Boss!

[@finestonen47]

9:47 i just love him. i cant found anyone whos funnier, more practical than he is, and more helpful in the fpv hobby than him.

[@cathrerinezetadrones3169]

He who shall not be named?

[@MarkGrob]

Thanks!

[@readysetdrone]

I have been having this issue with one of my quads and could not figure out what was up. Thanks, this is just what I needed!

[@Digit-Did-It]

Saw the title and had you in mind, nice!

[@jasonwoods5725]

Loved the part with you and an arm load of vista's! And no I didn't stock up and yes I wish I could find a few....

[@Gereon_]

Banggood has them on stock, at least thats what it shows me.

[@Clif_Brown]

@@Gereon_ They just don't tell you when you will actually get them...

[@rudypoirier7793]

What in TARNATION is wrong with my CV video signal ??? Well now I’ve fixed it. Well,,,,Joshua knows it all. Thanks Joshua! I’m flying the GEPRC smart 35, and that little sucker is LOCKED ON! At my age 66, this might just take me out! FPV goggles on my face, transmitter in hand and a perma smile! I should get a DNR tshirt. Do not resuscitate,,, unless there is still flight time on LiPo! 🤣 Sending some monetary love Your way Joshua! Blessings Brother! Keep up the good work. Rudy in Moncton Canada 🇨🇦

[@MatMayhem666_FPV]

Once again you have saved my mental health J.B. Thanks

[@ul-tme1053]

Omg I've been searching for 2 weeks and you come as my saviour

[@smackfpv]

Using Vista units on Spec wings for racing. No FC and just power directly off balance lead on battery. Temp protection disabled and have had no issues doing this. Allows for up to 6 racers at a time on low power modes and able to simultaneously fly analog and digital.

[@promaterial]

You connected the yellow wire directly to battery positive?

[@scrubbasher6418]

Thank you, thank you so much. I invested a heap of cash on a Caddx system and DJI goggles v2 for my Traxxas summit and was having this problem but now as its fixed now. Works perfect. I turned off the heat detection and waalaar.

[@MartFPV]

Thanks again Joshua! this old video saved me again. I did my first build and I mixed up the TX and RX. Keep up the good work! 🙏👍

[@drewgotit3569]

Almost returned the dji setup after I finally got it. 3 issues I had and now it's amazing. 1- the camera cable wasn't seated properly. 2- have to use a really fast SD card. 3- auto temp control had to be turned off. Thanks jb I'm pretty sure I figured all these issues out from your videos.

[@emmanueluh5869]

Why do you have to turn off the the auto temp control ? What was wrong with your drone ? Thanks

[@drewgotit3569]

@@emmanueluh5869 with it on it turns off your video feed to protect itself, then you can't see and crash. I kept loosing video extremely close. And after the issues above were fixed, it's been pretty much flawless.

[@y_gravel]

This guy is a master, he always answers my problems in a very clear way. I love him

[@gandaulf_fpv6925]

Thank you Joshua. I had a fubar,,,,,,🤦🏼‍♂ You and a few other's have saved my butt so many time's. Priceless info.

[@chrisreece8564]

I'd recommend step 1 be to check all of your physical connections. I've had bad range or video drop out only to land the quad and find that my MMCX connection is coming loose some how. Once that is plugged back in, the range/video is back to normal.

[@py2xrf]

Basic

[@4x5300]

@@py2xrf what was the point in saying basic py2xrf?

[@benSfft]

I consider you as a friend now ! 😄Everytime I faced an issue, you had a video to fix my problem !

[@KwaddawK]

Was having the low power unable to record problem and could not fix it. MSP was correct, battery voltage initially would give me a reading of 25.0v when I plugged in but did not change at all during flight. Also recording was not automatic even when set. Fixed all problems myself (formatting SD card in goggles was part of it) except the low power thing and just thought I have to live with it always on full power when plugged in. Tried again after watching this video and checked everything, played with my OSD in betaflight and now everything works perfectly. If you asked how did I fix it, I have no answer. Vista has FCC hack and goggles 1200wm hack. Good video JB, it helped me understand a couple of things and prompted me to try again and I'm glad I did. Now sell me a vista kit from your stash please! 😋

[@vilicia164]

This has been yet another eye-opening video. Yes I always learn something by watching your videos. Thank you for your work.

[@hateforall4012]

Funny i just had this issues on a Geprc mk5 build... and thought I was losing my mind... turns out I had the port setting incorrect. Thanks JB!!

[@sebastienjurkowski]

I don't have this issue, i get like 7km range and probably more but Joshua intro are so good that i'll watch it anyway cause i know i'll learn something today.

[@ragefpv6780]

Been searching for a solution to this problem a couple weeks meow! Just what we needed! Awesome info, much appreciated

[@JK_cookie00]

Now that explains it! Thanks for the workaround on our range problem

[@gringofpv6196]

Omg Josh. This has been bugging the crap out of me for so long. I run air units in my wings without flight controllers and have always wondered why can I not record. Thank you so much seriously thank you thank you thank you so much! It now works

[@toddkobelljr.2004]

How do you get Vbat and osd without a FC in fixed wings, ive been dying to know.

[@promaterial]

I'm wondering how you did this with no flight controller as well?

[@PaulSokolov]

Just spend a couple hours for this issue with FetTec G4 FC - Attention guys !!! the last FC firmware didn`t work for some reason with TX/RX 3 in my case. Damn - I checked everything and more - than rollback firmware and solve this problem. Happy flights !

[@gatorfdx]

Wow JB, you read my mind! I have been looking for help with this exact issue, thanks a million!!!

[@skyweaver3199]

Love your devotion to the new comers mate

[@masterpdj2623]

Thank you Joshua, I took the "I wanna fly" shortcut.

[@davidmgillmer]

@Joshua Bardwell, The protection Diode IS a TVS Diode! Soldering surface mount components can be done with solder paste and hot air, You my dear man, should look into this soldering method if you haven't already because its RAD! Also sometimes solder paste and a soldering iron can be used together. having solder paste is a valuable soldering consumable! Thanks so much for your channel and what you do, Most of what I have learned about Kwads is from you :)

[@Gilouloum]

You helped me SOOOO much during the construction of my first fpv drone THANKS

[@adamcfpv5372]

Thank you JB I been trying to figure out my osd and you helped me once again

[@murphyking79]

This video is why my quad works now!

[@HowardPhillips46]

Dude you are awesome, I am late in the DJI game but finally got the DJI v2 goggles and 03 Air Unit but only was getting about 75 to 100 meters was getting really disappointed and seen this now I can go till my battery runs low lol Thanks

[@andreacolletto9843]

I have the same problem, which was your?

[@HowardPhillips46]

@@andreacolletto9843 it was staying in standby mode, after I corrected the wiring from the 03 unit to the flight Controller I can easily go 3kM with absolutely no video interference, perfect signal but my battery won't make it any further have to head back.

[@HowardPhillips46]

@@andreacolletto9843 and once the wiring is correct do the cli thing with the MSP and with mine I knew it was correct because when armed it said motors turning when disarmed it says motors have stopped

[@andreacolletto9843]

what is this?@@HowardPhillips46

[@andreacolletto9843]

I just tried and I can see the vbat and when I arm the "low power state" disappear...

[@martinwager8815]

Thank you so much! I had accidently flipped the MSP toggle and could not figure out what was wrong.

[@SerhiyVoytenko]

TX RX mismatch was in my case. Thank you!

[@justinsane7832]

Still cracking up at the vistas and your fun way if showin em 🤣

[@20basty]

Joshua you are the man. I just had this issue past few days haha. Edit, also worth checking if the cable on airunit is plugged in properly, mine partially unplugged after crash and then I had this issue.

[@MurdersFPV]

Rofl, JB bought all the Vistas when he also bought out all the toilet paper. 🤣

[@mavfpv]

Rofl?

[@thedroneguytoronto]

Was literally just having this issue yesterday like wtf. Thanks so much

[@nes.torfernandez]

I don’t have range problems but I just realized why I’m not having custom osd and v bar info on my full size on one of my air unit.

[@helveticfpv550]

and why is this? i have the same problem: i'm missing the custom OSD from Betaflight on my DJI Goggles.

[@simonwood8685]

@@helveticfpv550 either you have it wired incorrectly tx to rx etc. Or you don't have the correct uart enabled or the diodes have gone in your air or vista unit... Or you have not enabled custom osd option in your Goggles

[@winder6]

Right on thanks for the help JB 🙏 finally getting to try dji for the first time with all used gear from FB marketplace cheers

[@sheapyfpv8224]

Joshua u is the man I wondered what the N/A stood for that temp control is getting turned off 👍

[@mrpash7075]

Thank you for the video JB, Greta explaini g as always! Been having issues with the range and no drone battery V for a while. Ive tried everything on this video... And unfortunately no luck. But at least I can fly on full power now!

[@tomaszboril]

I have had that problem of video dropouts in short range from time to time before I tuned the goggles for 700mw mode and no issue what so ever since! That is next step once you fix the wiring and make it work.

[@loudpackfpv1789]

9:25 👀 “what are you looking at” 😂

[@split3d610]

Great video as usual. Anything similar for O3 with low range flying in open space without interference like power lines or GSM...

[@Souchoroukof]

Great video. Would never have found what happens to my Signal if it weren't fro you. Thanks Joshua

[@brandonwoodford579]

I was told by caddx that even if I have the temp off, and power at max. The vista will stay at low power, and not go to full power AS LONG as you don't plug the googles in. Once you plug the googles in, it allows the output power to go to max. So if your trying to get a GPS lock, and your vista is set at max, just don't plug in the googles till you have satillites.

[@spyder000069]

Or you can just manually set the goggles to the lowest output power during the wait. Then set it to full output when you are ready to fly. Its only takes 10 seconds to go through the menu so its not a big deal.

[@LukDzm]

Dzięki, kolejny Twój film pomógł mi rozwiązać problem:)

[@imager09tube]

Thank you Josh, excellent teaching class!

[@piratapro_4kFPV]

Damn it JB !!! You bought up all the Vistas 😆 I should of listened to you

[@aerulfpv]

Thanks jb ..i had this issue today..well its working..👍

[@MCsCreations]

Excellent, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@RenderMan1337]

Bardwell asking to being robbed holding all those vistas lmao

[@RichardAFPV]

Same thought. I immediately imagined the mob of pilots making the trek to his house. Could be a fun party!

[@DstruX]

oh man. that Vista flex 😂 savage

[@jacobosannicolas3884]

Hi , the low power issue happened to me yesterday. I had the MSP wrong on betaflight. It took me a while to discover it..thx great video!!

[@gr1zzlymack]

Thank you very much! Fixed my issue.

[@digiwriters3489]

You have solved all my problems...

[@Harleybrandao]

Master, your videos are excellent.... but my caddx is ok as you taught, but the signal is horrible, could it be a problem with the antenna? Thank you, congratulations on your work!!!!

[@FlyZoneFpv]

Lol! You the best Joshua. Vista shortage . Love it . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤙🏼

[@TRONCATFPV]

I literally just got done fixing my buddies X-Knight because it was having the issue of not recording videos when arming. No joke about 5 minutes ago. Thing was "RTF" and the RX/TX pads were swapped...

[@baggszilla]

Thank you for this JB!

[@eveRide]

Hey Joshua I've just installed the DJi o3 air unit on an older iFlight Nazgul f5. I've double checked the soldering to the board and it's good (gray to R3, white to T3). I'm running the latest betaflight 10.8 configurator and betaflight 4.3.2 on the quad. I used the dump from iFlight for all the settings, and put the correct uarts in the ports tab so that the quad will arm, fly, etc. However, it is stuck in low power mode and the battery voltage doesn't show up in the OSD. I tried updating with Canvas. Weirdly, on this quad, the same problem was happening when it had a vista in it (that's why I thought it was a vista problem and replaced it with the o3). Could it be something with the FC? Or something I have overlooked in betaflight? Any help would majorly get me out of a bind. Thank you for all the amazing content! (I spent the whole day watching the newest Betaflight series!)

[@JoshuaBardwell]

To get battery voltage etc all you need is MSP enabled in the Ports tab for the UART that the gray and white wires are connected to. If that doesn't work, I start to suspect something is wrong with the wires or the FC. Maybe move the TX/RX to a different UART? Make sure MSP is on the correct UART?

[@guarf]

Have you solved this? same problem with mamba f722s. I see a complete osd but always in low power mode 😢

[@szylairphotovideo8413]

Dear @Joshua Bardwell I see low power info, I see "unlocked" info but I don't see "Framerate swtich to 1200mW" info. And yes, I still have problems with range. It's about 600 meters od 1200mW, and then bitrate fall do 2-4 mb\s and I see one red bar in lower left corner of my googles :/

[@JoshuaBardwell]

If you suspect this issue, turn off temperature protection and then see if it fixes it.

[@captainsumtingwong]

😅🤣😂🤣😂 @9:19 - The Vista Stack!!!

[@parrynotas]

Thanks, Joshua, I have had this problem too, everything was showing up, VBat, unlock, OSD, but I got short range I had to turn off temp control. to make it work for me. I don't feel crazy anymore

[@SummerCrowfpv]

Don’t worry Joshua I did the same thing and bought a bunch of vistas and the original full camera 😁 I got like 4 cameras in storage

[@userman444]

9:21 LOL. its probably bcz Joshua bought all the Vistas . But real question is : when goggles v2 will have a fix : why goggles doesn't remember your quad when you switch from DJI digital FPV system and back to your custom drone with Vista . Every time you switch modes you need to RE-BIND everything again. Goggles Drone and Remote . Not very cool to do on the field. Especially for custom build drone when Vista module is somewhere deep inside of the frame ( for example Protek25HD ). tinny "bind" button location is really inconvenient.

[@mikereynolds2934]

Thanks, JB, it turns out that I have an Air Unit with a blown diode on one of the uart pads (continuity with ground). I am willing to try to replace the diode, are there any resources out there on doing this?

[@L.And.J.For.All.]

This gave me a headache for a solid week when I did my first build. CHECK YOUR WIRING! I swear I checked everything else at least a dozen times and it wasn't until someone asked me to send a pic of my wiring that I noticed I switched the ground and signal wire. Doh!

[@PIDtoolbox]

look at all those vistas! gold! I see gold!

[@jumpermacc6786]

Funny thing, This video was just recommended to me from youtube. i wrote you an email 2 days ago so on the 17.august 2021. I had the same issue, no VBAT in the goggles and custom OSD not working. no this was my 5th quad and i fly only digital so i was hella confused... i tried switching wires, use 2 different UARTS and 2 AirUnits, i tripple checked the Costum OSD ON on my goggles and if the MSP was set right and OSD in betaflight acitve or not. Now i figured it out with the Help of the Diatone Support. i got myself a Mamba F722 Mk1 Pro60 stack, and the thing is. i tried 2 uarts which are just not disingned to work for that... i tried UART 4 and 3 and it didnt work. they told me to use UART 5 because 4 was for wireless function and 3 was for analog VTX and had a VTX pad. so yeah. if it doesnt work, try every UART you have i guess... thing is. Diatone doesn't have this info anywhere. not on their Diagramms or anywhere else. Maybe this should be adressed too...

[@zbychuk7059]

Tkank you . You I saved probably many hours thanks to you.

[@TERBANGFPV]

theres a guide on youtube to find and remove the burned diodes to fix the no osd problem on vista.. bud sadly no such guide for the air unit.. hopefully the mighty knows it all Joshua can guide us and fix the air unit problem.

[@RichardAFPV]

Other than opening the case and locating the diodes, the same process should apply. Even the replacement diode's, which may not be the exact same part, would very likely still work.

[@TERBANGFPV]

@@RichardAFPV no one found the diodes on air unit.

[@RichardAFPV]

@@TERBANGFPV diodes have the same characteristics as fuses and, like most fuses, you have a bit of leeway in spec, depending on the application. There's a zillion types of diodes out there. What's the link to the thread?

[@lostdeath4202]

I used the T4 and R4 pads didn’t work So I soldered to TX and RX idk if they are the same type of pads but The other pad didn’t work right but it was worth the time figuring out the quality on the camera is amazing also the stick inputs to bring up the PIDs worked on the vista then stopped after opening my PIDs up with the googles Idk if that cause an error with the stick but it’s weird

[@helmuthuneke1775]

thank you for your good videos as on my vista the tx pad got pulled off at least I know how can still use the vista without osd

[@alainmawet2032]

It could also be that you soldered to 5V pad instead of 9V pad... I just face it! Thanks for your videos.

[@alistairborthwick2031]

When he turned that drone on, did it make a Pacman sound effect? 😀

[@metalmonkey1113]

Why do you have to flex with all those vista units? 😂

[@CarbonGlassMan]

I just tried out the used goggles 2, not v2 but the smaller goggles 2, and on the drone with the caddx vista, I can't get 50 feet away before it goes from 50mbs to 8mbs then loses all video. What is going on there?

[@PunakiviAddikti]

I wonder if you could use an E-fuse as a voltage spike protector. They auto reset and they're lightning fast.

[@crezzlin]

Thanks JB.. saved my bacon again out on the field with an air unit and had no range 😂

[@Chumbuucket]

Just fixed my issue thanks

[@promaterial]

I'm running an air unit in a RC truck. No flight controller. I just run positive and negative to air unit and I have a fan blowing on it to keep it cool. What can I do to see the battery voltage in my goggles? Would hooking the yellow wire to battery positive do the trick?

[@nappyfpv]

I don’t have osd on 3 vistas and 1 AU. They all blew and I have caps on all 4. 2 are on 6s and 2 on 4s. I just have my crossfire call out my voltage every 30 seconds. I’m used to it now it’s weird when I have osd now lol

[@jasondonavich2758]

I get terrible range on my fpv controller but goggles seem fine, which is weird because it's normally video the goes out first over RC link

[@andrey_climb_bike_ski]

All you that had this problem: How exactly were you flying without the OSD? Were you just using your radio to monitor battery life?

[@baughaninastorm]

Have call outs on my Tango 2

[@artakturner]

I put telemetry in my RC

[@EliteFpv]

Are you 100% that they won’t over heat and damage themselves? Cause I bought a brand new vista turned off temp control and all was working fine. I plugged in my kwad and someone needed my help and I got distracted for 10-15min and when I came back and check my goggles my camera looked like I was looking through a screen door. Tried to fly and it wouldn’t fly further than 20 ft without loosing signal and locking up. I swapped camera and still the same. Swapped vista unit and kept the same camera and all was good again. That vista unit is fried. Again it was brand new only test hovered never flown and it had been working perfectly. Now it’s trashed.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I mean I guess nothing is impossible.

[@drewgotit3569]

I couldn't fly with temp control on. It would almost immediately go into protection mode, and if I could start flying quickly enough it would still come on while flying and I would loose video really close. But I avoid letting it sit on without flying so it doesn't burn up.

[@EliteFpv]

I do want to clarify for future readers. I did turn of temp control on my unit under my own accord way before this video came out. And in no way was this Joshua’s fault or am I blaming him. I also believe that once you turn off temp control the unit can damage itself. As for temp control I would leave it on durning high heat months and maybe only disable it during the cooler months. However be aware your settings while also making repairs and updates on the bench. If temp control is off maybe turn it on also reduce output power to 25mw.

[@88_shadesoffpv]

I have come to the same issue on a built and don't know what to do. Using a GepRC F722 Dual FC. Didn't know it doesn't support DJI sutff so I'm using an iflight Bec to get power to the air unit. Everything work but the problem is I'm not getting the red unlock window, and also on the lower left the signal for the quad only reaches one red bar. I've checked that my solder is correct, Yellow > R2, White > T1, Grey> R1. That leave me with red, black and brown. I've solder both the brown & Black together and grounded it to the Bec and Red wire in on the Bec 5v-12v out. In Betaflight I've set Uart 2 as the serial and Uart 1 as the MSP. Did I miss something????

[@gwiglife]

Great! Thank you! Everything is working and I cannot now do the goggles recording 😊

[@thorsten7868]

What about if range and video is fine, BUT there's NO Betaflight OSD visible?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Check of you have vBat in the lower right that confirms whether you have the MSP connection between FC and goggles working.

[@thorsten7868]

@@JoshuaBardwell IT shows VBat. Using IFLIGHT Succex-e Whoop F4.

[@RobertCondonSunnyTurtle]

if you crash way out there with auto temp off. the dji unit will overheat before you can get to it. Better to have 1Mw to find it anyway.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Valid.

[@RobertCondonSunnyTurtle]

Especially in the Aussie summer

[@jeffgrismore1986]

I'm having Short range issues as well. But i'm using it in a RC unit with a PMW crossfire receiver . Do you have any videos on that?

[@Johow]

Hey Josh - you are holding up the goggles at the beginning of the video. Are those antennas connected correctly? Shouldn't the patch antennas connect to the top? thx..

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I think the v1 works best with omni on top.

[@goneviral6037]

What if you want to use it on an RC truck and need flight controllers?

[@InfinityDrones]

I'm gettign unlocked when I arm, but I'm not seeing vbat and my osd battery cell voltage remains at 0.00 - I've checked that my rx and tx wires are correct. I don't have any continuaity between the rx and tx pads either. Anything else it could be?