I was so torn between these 3 until I realized that I was broke.
@christopher18003 жыл бұрын
I’d recommend stealing the Clear MG then… just not from me. 😂
@jcap83913 жыл бұрын
@@christopher1800 Is it endgame?
@christopher18003 жыл бұрын
@@jcap8391 For me, yes. Both in terms of sound & budget. 😂
@jcap83913 жыл бұрын
@@christopher1800 sheeet I hope so I was gonna buy a recliner or this. Should I buy it over a delicious leather recliner that will mold to my lard ass?
@J1ss3ncy3 жыл бұрын
Second-hand market is the way to go. So many audiophiles don't mind bleeding money to try out new gear. I bought a HD800S -40% on MSRP. It's 9 months old.
@flyingnematode3 жыл бұрын
Wish you would talk about what genre you would use these headphones for.... also would you stream live here in the future? Thanks happy 4/20
@founik3 жыл бұрын
This comment should get pinned, because it would really help to imagine what the headphones are really good for even for audio noobs like I am.
@fujishiki3 жыл бұрын
Generally speaking Hifiman and Focal headphones will do decently with all genres. That's what they are made for. HD800/800s has that old school German/Austria timbre. It's made for acoustic or classical music. Try it with Wiener Neujahrskonzert 2021. I feel 800s sounds more epic like sitting in the Golden hall of the Musikverein.
@dondelchulia31892 жыл бұрын
You look like dms
@patc25152 жыл бұрын
Honestly, choosing my next sub $2k headphones has been difficult AF. Every time I've made my decision, it's torn by something else. Each model has a pro and con that just leaves me desperately searching for that perfect middle that offers the best of all these models combined. I have still not found that. The search continues
@UntakenNick Жыл бұрын
That's what frustrates me, any 1.5K headphone should be absolute perfection.
@francisnorthwood7862 Жыл бұрын
@@UntakenNick thats why you buy hd 600 which are better then the 800 and save the money.
@DeMarki81 Жыл бұрын
@@UntakenNick if that was the case how would 3-6k headphones sound like?
@Kana0211 Жыл бұрын
Get a used utopia. I just found one for 1500$ but I'm too broke for that
@terrygreenway15218 ай бұрын
@@Kana0211on
@HiFiGOAudio3 жыл бұрын
I like the 800S, it sounds so spacious and immersive at the same time. Though really wanna try out the Clear MG. Thanks for your comparison video.
@teampyro9113 жыл бұрын
heard them the other day, they sound weird :/
@teampyro9113 жыл бұрын
@@OptLab sorry about the confusion ,I was speaking about the focals.
@nikks13713 жыл бұрын
One thing that's similar between the three, I can't afford any of them
@richardchen75933 жыл бұрын
you also need a couple of hundreds dollars worth of DAC+AMP to power them properly :)
@Mark-fs7ok2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the Clear, Arya v.2 and HD800S. The Clear are my favorite Focals (I’ve also had the Elex and Elear), but I finally realized that I find all Focals a little too fatiguing and metalllic sounding. The Arya are fantastic - great FR and soundstage. If you use a solid state or hybrid tube amp, the Arya are wonderful. But when I got my OTL tube amp I replaced the Arya with the HD800S and never looked back. I also have a ZMF Aeolus, which I find is great complement for the HD800S. The Aeolus is lush and bassy, while the HD800S is airy and detailed.
@polaridia2 жыл бұрын
literally the perfect comment, i have an aeolus and an OTL amp and was looking at the 800S to complement it. plus my amp is warm-leaning so i feel like that would combat the brightness of it. do you like the treble on the HD800S?
@wyx58542 жыл бұрын
should i get Clear OG or MG?
@Polyfusia2 жыл бұрын
@@wyx5854 MG is superior. OG is a pretty great deal while there's still stock. Your wallet will make the decision.
@tinypickle Жыл бұрын
What amp would you recommend for the 800s? Never had a tube amp mostly just used chifi dac amps
@juanmillaruelo7647 Жыл бұрын
Check out Josh Valour's recent amp tiering. I have an A90.
@jollyrioger25723 жыл бұрын
The Arya was something special to me, especially in songs that are recorded with soundstage and distinct instrument separation in mind. It feels spacious and grand, like the bass, mids and treble each played on their own speakers into my head.
@x-techgaming3 жыл бұрын
And you got rid of it. Because...it just wasn't good enough, all-around, nor worth $1500? Like all of these headphones.
@jollyrioger25723 жыл бұрын
@@x-techgaming nah I still use it on the daily.
@x-techgaming3 жыл бұрын
@@jollyrioger2572 Why did you say, "was"..?
@g1g2g3g4g5gt3 жыл бұрын
@@x-techgaming Maybe english isn't his native language or it just was a mistake.
@duacan52713 жыл бұрын
Nice to heard that. Did you try HD800s?
@TechnoGuy113 жыл бұрын
As far as planar headphones go I'm set with the Arya I think it's just fantastic. I wish I didn't buy the Sundara and Ananda first even though they're both great they just are on the level of the Arya. I still listen to the Sundara from time to time because its signature and tonal balance are about perfect and the detail is also really good for the price, I think it's the best under $500 headphone out there right now.
@craigmettenbrink2982 Жыл бұрын
Just got the Focal Clear MG Pro's. Incredible.
@Leonhart_933 жыл бұрын
I think the fact that the HD 800s are still compared to recent headphones, even though they are quite old, speaks volumes about the their quality. Certainly not many other such older headphones from other manufacturers hold the test of time and market renewal.
@fatdoi0033 жыл бұрын
only thing HD800 has is its unique staging property, otherwise not much
@Leonhart_933 жыл бұрын
@@fatdoi003 It doesn't have to have more than that. If one parameter is a 10 and the others are 8-9 then that's already top tier candidate right here. Because there is no such thing as perfect headphone. And it's not even me that sees it in such high regard. As you can see people keep including it in their top tier lists, instead of other stuff.
@tdfmike39153 жыл бұрын
@@fatdoi003 yes the soundstage is the best in any headphone so far. But it has also really great imaging and need something like the LCD 4 to get better details in a headphone. No headphone below 3-4k can beat it in any 2 of the mentioned strong points. And No headphone can beat it in all 3. It has absolute perfect german qc and longlivety and spareparts around so buying used is a very valid option. But as we can see there are finally other very good options for other tastes available in the pricerange!
@Android-nv7gu3 жыл бұрын
Don’t ordinary headphones typically hold onto their value for a few years? The only headphones I see that change yearly are the tws, anc, and beats by Dre headphones.
@qupeter12242 жыл бұрын
seem like you never seen hd650, it born before hd800 and still ton of people buying 650 and 6xx. those are truly insane the amount of hd650/6xx been sold for the past 15 years and ton of people still highly recommend them
@SinisterDev853 жыл бұрын
I was glad to see this comparison video! And I still think if I were to pull the trigger, I'd get the Arya. I got the Ananda a while back and fell in love with it. It's nearly perfect for me, my tastes seem to parallel Josh's, and I think the Arya would be my favorite amongst these three. Ah, id love to at least get the opportunity to hear the Arya... Thanks again for an informative video Josh!
@hahahayess3 жыл бұрын
This helped me choose the Clear over the Arya. Thank you!
@MrGrosMamouth3 жыл бұрын
Mission Failed for him lol
@paulwilliams65933 жыл бұрын
I had the opportunity to listen to both the original Clear and new Clear MG this week and they are both fantastic headphones. To my surprise they are substantially different to warrant an audition of each type. My conclusion was that the Clear MGs were the best.
@superash823 жыл бұрын
The build quality of Hifimans has always put me off
@g1g2g3g4g5gt3 жыл бұрын
I'm going for the Arya because it's the different one. If I'm spending all that money on headphones, they'd better deliver sounds differently. The Clear seems to be the 6xx with better bass, same clampforce and headband, same soundstage and imaging issues and 7 times its price. I'd go for the ZMF Auteur if I wanted a true upgrade from the 6xx at this price tag instead.
@g1g2g3g4g5gt3 жыл бұрын
@@superash82 That's a myth by now.
@ChaseHub2 жыл бұрын
I've had the 800S's, and Arya's, at the same time, and recently got the LCD-X's at the same time as having the Arya's, and I'll share some of my findings. The 800S's aren't warm, are very sterile, sound faint and far away at times, and the Arya's best them in most every way musically, except for the sound stage. When I went from 800S's to Arya's I was like ohhhh shiii... for music I'd take Arya's. I'm a huge gamer (note the channel name..) and the Arya's sound stage was close enough to the 800S's that It was a no brainer for me to return the 800S's and keep the Arya's. That was until I heard the LCD-X's and the Arya's went back, too. I'm a bit of a Bass head and the Arya's just didn't fill that niche like the LCD-X's do, and the Arya's are a bit too bright compared to the LCD-X's, which I find a little warmer but considerably similar for ~$500-700 less. I placed the emphasis first on sound quality/comfort and then secondly on price, and the LCD-X's ticked every box higher so it was for me a no brainer. Stealth Magnet / 2021 editions btw.
@YTjuanchicod2 жыл бұрын
Soo.. what do you prefer for competitive gaming? (Foot steps). Also, what amps/dac do you use for this 3 headphones?
@ChaseHub2 жыл бұрын
@@YTjuanchicod If you're going to be spending that much on a pair of headphones and your only concern is gaming I think that the HD800S's are excellent, but if you're looking to daily drive a set of headphones that are very expensive and you want to cover multiple fronts, gaming, movies, music, etc, then Arya's/LCD-X's are a better use of money and come within a very close range of what the HD800S's offer for soundstage so why not get all the extra added benefits, the clarity and punchiness and responsiveness of planars, for less cost, and in the case of the X's, the added bass.. in some ways the bass is better because footsteps are low freq, so they're more present just not quite as locatable, if that makes sense. Modius/Magnius by Schiit Audio on balanced wires to drive the beasts Arya/HD800S, less is needed for the X's, because they dont take as much juice to drive em.
@ourada462 жыл бұрын
Are the LCD X suitable for bass heavy genres?
@ChaseHub2 жыл бұрын
@@ourada46 pretty good, yeah, though i liked the xc more. they're also both very heavy so wouldnt recommend more then 2-4 hours of use per day with them unless you got a iron neck
@juanmillaruelo7647 Жыл бұрын
LCD-X are heavy. They are quite dark and bassy. The price is affordabl-ish. If they take well to EQ it can be a good option for a planar.
@chad63 жыл бұрын
Could you give an elegia review? Perhaps vs Stellia, and Celestee? All the focal closed backs compared and in price categories
@revelationsoundstudio3 жыл бұрын
I purchased the Focal Clear MG Pro's. I love them, they are comfortable to wear, very well made, and sound great. I agree with Josh that the top end is lacking a little. On my NAD pre amp, I boost the treble by 2 db. Now its the way I love it. The snare and cymbals are heard with more excitement and detailed.
@RoyalProtectorate2 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend them for studio use?
@BusinessDuck692 жыл бұрын
@@RoyalProtectorate I have the clear mg pros, I honestly don't find them dark at all. In comparison to my hd600's, they are about the same in terms of brightness, but smoother highs that are also more clear. They are great for studio use!
@PantsaBear2 жыл бұрын
@@BusinessDuck69 Most people would call HD600 headphones very dark sounding and only to be used for smooth listening though lol, don't think that's a good baseline
@BusinessDuck692 жыл бұрын
@@PantsaBear Well all this stuff is subjective at the end of the day. I've only ever heard the hd600's being described as neutral, and I'd have to agree with that. The Clear Mg Pros are a similar sound but more full and detailed.
@michaelseth-qf2lt Жыл бұрын
Still recommend the Nad pre amp with the mg pros?
@cowboyflipflopped3 жыл бұрын
Terrific video, as always! You've come so far in developing your ear and your ability to express your opinions about what you've heard! I think, in your line of work, being consistent is tied with being accurate and detailed, in terms of importance. You make excellent short films of reliable reviews.
@homerjones32913 жыл бұрын
Headphones are such a personal preference; you really need to try as many as you can to find one that suits you better than the others. No reviewer is going to be able to describe how they sound and feel on your head and with your own amp. It’s not easy to do but to have that “aha!” moment, there’s no other way. I’ve actually have had two different samples of the same model sound different to me, where I would have kept the first but took no time in getting rid of the second.
@NotCharAznable3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DC-iu4qc3 жыл бұрын
Josh, the hair looks good! Keep that shit. Also, yeah, the Clear are the ones I'm going with, because reasons. I mean, shit, it was your and DMS' S tier...
@Ninafan68 Жыл бұрын
I bought the 800S last week and I'm in love with them!
@mandingo34323 жыл бұрын
Not planning on buying any of these (at the moment), just watching cause of shear nerdery and the good quality content Josh always delivers. 👌
@manulaverdiere3 жыл бұрын
I started this video with the question: "Which one do I want?". I ended up with the answer: "All of them".
@DefiantAML3 жыл бұрын
I already have the HD800S and the Aryas..... Oh boy, here I go buying headphones again!
@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou3 жыл бұрын
@@DefiantAML Do you have a preference between the two? And what DAC(s) and amp(s) are you using with them?
@DefiantAML3 жыл бұрын
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou Thats really tough because they both sound amazing. I think it depends on the type of music you want them for. To my ears the Aryas sound a little fuller and the 800S more spacious. Build quality wise, Sennheiser without a doubt. But hifiman really know how to make good drivers. My end game goal is to have an end game dynamic, planar, and electrostatic. These two fill two of my categories.
I have the HD800S's, plugged into a Neve RNHP headphone amplifier and a Topping DX7 pro DAC with USB input and Qobuz and I am so happy with it. It is only limited by the quality of the sound files and really gives you a great experience of sound. I am loving it! My hearing is only so good, but I can hear everything that it is possible for me to hear. It is like listening to music with a microscope and examining every detail. Thanks for the feedback on the other units.
@josephjroy65933 жыл бұрын
How is the Neve RNHP headphone amplifier compare to just using the DX7 Pro ?
@mrfrosty33 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to see a music producer using the hd800. I've never really thought of it as a studio headphone. I love it's Death Star technician aesthetic.
@Leonhart_933 жыл бұрын
Why not? Any accurate headphone is capable of fitting that bill. But the fact that many non-neutral and claustrophobic headphones often get recommended for the job (like MDR 7506 or DT 770) never made any sense to me. I think you can say that often times audiophiles might care more about sound quality and be more knowledgeable about gear than the sound producers themselves, who ofthe are probably like "I have these speakers that have been recommended to me, so I can get whatever headphones" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@trixniisama3 жыл бұрын
@@Leonhart_93 Yeah DT 770 is really an odd choice, but I believe a DT 880, while it can have sparky trebles, be a much better budget open back can for mixing music.
@gwapster133 жыл бұрын
A producer would not judge tonal balance based on headphones alone anyway. The HD800 is very useful in detecting noise and other flaws in the tracks.
@AR-bj5et Жыл бұрын
1yr later but I wouldn’t be surprised if the guy was using Sonarworks with them. Sonarworks is a sound mod which EQs the headphones to as pure neutrality as they can get to and the 800s are reputably fantastic responders to the mod, albeit more expensive than the DT880 pro had HD650 which also respond phenomenally. I can only assume he found the sound staging and imaging quality useful but I’d be surprised if he wasn’t using it modded.
@LastOneLeft993 жыл бұрын
Ever since I got my Arya its pretty much all I listen too.
@chamade1663 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@lonestar16643 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison, between the A90 and H16 which one do you prefer for Arya?
@Hari-kx2er3 жыл бұрын
Why has Diana V2 replaced Arya as your favourite headphone? Is it because of the Arya revision? Also, LCD X is now superseded by DT1990 Pro. The funny thing is that in a video comparing Sundara, HD660S and DT1990 Pro, you chose Sundara as your personal favorite over both HD660S and DT1990 Pro.
@Shahzad-Khan3 жыл бұрын
Diana V2 is essentially endgame. It does everything Arya does but the driver is arguably one of the best in the business, except for HE-1
@Hari-kx2er3 жыл бұрын
@@Shahzad-Khan I am not asking which is technically the better headphone. Joshua always admitted that Arya is not technically perfect but still subjectively it is his favourite headphone even though he has reviewed TOTL headphones like Hifiman Susvara, Abyss 1266 etc. What changed now is the question. Finally I don't think Diana V2 or even Phi does everything Arya does. According to Joshua, Arya has a much bigger soundstage/Scale than the Diana siblings.
@musicxxa66782 жыл бұрын
Wait he finds DT 1990 better than LCD X ?
@gjtube373 жыл бұрын
Josh, thanks for the comparison. I am actually trying to decide between the Arya and the HD800S. I listen to classical, jazz, rock, metal, and blues so deciding between the two is really difficult. What would your choice be for all of these genres. Also, what would be your amp/DAC choice for the Arya and separately your amp/'DAC choice for the HD800S? Would the THX offerings do well for either headphone? What about the Topping A90 and D70 DAC for both headphones? What about a tube amp like the ZMF Pendant for both headphones? Finally, what is your favorite aftermarket headphone cable? Thank you for taking the time to read this and hopefully share your thoughts. I'm really torn with both of these headphones. Thank you!
@kafkaworkshere2 жыл бұрын
I own all three of these headphones and I find Joshua's review right on the money. Each of these cans delivers breathtaking performance but no headphone does it all. I love the soundstage and detail of the HD800. I love the thump and slam of the Clear. I love the smooth-and-groove appeal of the Arya, especially the low reach of its bass. But every time I wear one, I miss something from the others. I've found the best way to enjoy any of these cans is to simply enjoy what they do best.
@josha87152 жыл бұрын
If you had to sell the HD800 or the arya, which one would you let go?
@kafkaworkshere2 жыл бұрын
@@josha8715 I hate to say it but I'd probably sell the HD800 first. I love the HD800 for its speed and clarity. It looks like a helmet from a sci-fi flick but it's very comfortable. What it does - in terms of soundstage and detail - is brilliant. But it's so amp-dependent. With that treble spike - and without EQ, pad-swapping or a sensible mod - it's not an all-rounder like the Arya. The Arya has a more polite sound, which can feel less engaging than the HD800. On the other hand, the HD800 can also sound piercing while the bass extension on the Arya is a no-brainer and its planar clarity is sometimes more revealing than the doughnut driver in the HD800. Given its famous soundstage, it's weird to talk about the HD800 as being more "in your face" - as if I were comparing an HD6XX to a Grado - but it's a great can for jazz, classical and anything acoustic. I love what it does to old vinyl. But if we're talking about anything where tonal balance is key - metal, really sharp rock, hip hop, or even modern pop - the Arya is a more rewarding ride. This is a can you can just forget about as you drive through a wide variety of music for hours on end. If you EQ it, the HD800 has a few tricks up its sleeve. It doesn't have the easy thump of the HD800 (or the bodyslam of the Focal Clear) but a 6-decibel boost below 100 Hz gives it a decent bit of authority. And, while the HD800S has incorporated the celebrated French Mod, it's not the center hole that needs the most work. It's all that exposed metal, including screws, right underneath the cup liner. You can adjust the overall balance with a pad swap (I have Dekoni Elites) - and anything that compensates for the bass that spills out of it from those soft velour pads is helpful - but the real problem is all that metal in the cup, underneath the liner pad. A little Kleenex, strategically placed, is surprisingly effective at taming the excess, making the HD800 a more enjoyable ride. Even so, if I had to cut to the bone, I'd cut the HD800 before cutting the Arya. In that, I speak from experience. I'm on my third HD800. I bought these cans, when they first came out, then sold them when money got tight, then brought them back as soon as finances improved, sold them again, and am now enjoying my third pair. But if I found my back against the wall, I'd sell off the HD800 and keep the Arya. I just find this headphone so euphonic. I have other cans I really like - including the LCD-X, the LCD-2c and the DT1990 (all of which have do well at what they do well) but the Arya is a keeper. It has nice bass extension without producing a treble veil. It pops. You can feel the texture of the music.
@josha87152 жыл бұрын
@@kafkaworkshere Thank you for the very detailed reply! i’m getting rid of the HD 800 because I’m selling them to my brother in law. I figured I get something to replace the perfect headphones so that I don’t have only the sony z1r and the hifiman he400se. I was thinking either the Sennheiser HD 800 S or the hifiman arya. I am really considering the arya because of it’s versatile 3.5 MM connections, but I am unsure whether to get V1, V2 or the stealth magnets version
@josha87152 жыл бұрын
@@kafkaworkshere it’s true, the arya v2 has great bass, clarity and impressive speed, it breathes new life into all genres of music. better than my hd800 in some ways so i wonder if it’s better than the hd800s for me
@musicxxa66782 жыл бұрын
@@kafkaworkshere Hello. I feel like you can help me. I can't audition these headphones. I have to buy one of them blindly. Clear, Arya, LCD X, 800S. Now the background, i have Ananda and DT 770 right now. I used DT 1990, Fidelio X2, DT 1770 and couple more cheap headphones. To be honest out of all these headphones DT 1990 sounded the most impressive to me. It was incredibly speedy, resolving and imaging was incredibly precise. Ananda is a bit disappointing because it lacks what i like about DT1990. It sounds very compressed, dead, monotonous compared to 1990. Also less detailed on the surface. I appreciate what Ananda does but i think it's not for me. Ananda's biggest strength is the realism in my opinion. It sounds RAW. As for the soundstage i would put Fidelio X2 and DT 770 in front of both Ananda and the DT 1990. Out of all these i still like DT 770 a lot. I think it has the best presentation out of all these. Big soundstage, placement of the all instruments and vocals work great for me. I also like V shape sound. I'm not fan of vocals, i like the music part of most songs. I like the harmony of rich music alongside of vocals. I hate forwards vocals. Vocals shouldn't steal my attention. I like air up top, without air it sounds dry and lifeless. I like bass punch and sub bass when it's called. I like rhythm. This is where Ananda fails hard. It doesn't have rhythm, dynamism, ups and downs. Rhythmic stuff sound dead flat. For example this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZewaJKAgdBgbpY and this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5fPqoh9iat-n9k sound boring on Ananda as well as rock metal. Rock metal sound infinitely better on DT 1990. I will use the headphone for games and movies as well. Immersion is very important. I was really impressed with Fidelio X2's soundstage but it's technicalities were lacking. Imaging and details weren't great compared to DT 770. It was grainy. I think what i want is DT 770 on steroids. Bigger and better soundstage. Harmonious presentation all around me. Good rhythm. DT 770 does this best among all headphones i've tried. 1990 is impressive but way too aggressive and forward. Ananda's presentation and soundstage is confusing to me. It sounds big, intimate and deep like everything is on top of each other but still distinct. Music comes from in front of me. DT 770 can sound in front me, right left or even behind stimulate from every angle. 360 degree sound. I'm in between LCD X and HD800S. I don't consider Arya too much because of my Ananda experience. Clear has the dynamics and speed which was very impressive on DT 1990, i like dynamic headphone but it's soundstage is small according to everyone. Sorry for the long post. Can you compare the DT 1990 to other headphones like LCD X and HD800S ? Especially the dynamics. I really like the speed and dynamics of DT 1990.
@ncokicsi3 жыл бұрын
I was so torn between Arya and Clear that I ended up going with a 64audio u12t :D
@ozunkeskin69193 жыл бұрын
hows the sound
@ncokicsi3 жыл бұрын
@@ozunkeskin6919 it really lives up to the reviews and I'm goint to start commuting more again, and it pairs really well with my ibasso dx160
@ozunkeskin69193 жыл бұрын
@@ncokicsi hows the sound? can you call that the sound out of this world? or just, okay a very good sound experience?
@ncokicsi3 жыл бұрын
@@ozunkeskin6919 I went from Ananda and HD6xx and the positional cues are true step up, I'm still in the process of relistening stuff and I'm truly amazed that it can come out of an IEM.
@sebanambrus92653 жыл бұрын
@@ncokicsi you mean you impressed after the HD6xx and Anada? you tried well amped the Arya or HD800s ? they truly other league
@bensherman19772 жыл бұрын
Would you say the Clear is more suited to electronic music, and the Arya more for instrumental music? That's how I imagine these from the reviews: Clear is close and punchy (which I imagine is great for dance, electronic, hip hop, pop etc), versus the Arya being organic and airy (that I image being great for live performances, acoustic, orchestral, etc).
@arthurhaywood21843 жыл бұрын
I don't think that I've ever heard the Focal Clear Mg described as "dark" before....... What I take from this is that most consider the DT 1990's treble as on the aggressive side but not JV so it kind of makes sense that he would consider the Clear Mg to be dark. It's interesting once you hone in on a reviewer's personal preferences & factor them into the review.
@hpol36033 жыл бұрын
I never heard that either. The DT1990 has a massive treble peak!!!! Several db! I cant believe that he never mention that! I would never mix on the DT1990.
@waa38663 жыл бұрын
It's dark compared to the OG I guess. It's like you took the OG Clear and tuned it to sound more like an Audeze. I highly prefer the OG among the two in terms of tuning.
@andrasnelhiebel67263 жыл бұрын
@@waa3866 Exactly. I tried the MG against my old one, and it is like if they put a pillow inside. Very muffled upper mids. Clear OG all the way!
@themastroiannis Жыл бұрын
have never listened to the Clear MG but worked professionally with the DT1990 for 4 years. treble, indeed, was simply too much to take and 'digest'. sold them, got me a pair of Audeze LCD-X 2021 and my mixes and masters translate really well to other equipment. despite being heavy they are extremely musical and perfect for my job. in 2023 i would NOT recommend the DT1990.
@Dominari662 жыл бұрын
I've not listened to either of these, but heard good reviews of the HD800s and was offered a good deal, so bought them, now waiting to be delivered and can't wait.
@Guylove-agnostik2 жыл бұрын
What's your idea
@justind41753 жыл бұрын
So basically they all do everything completely different. Based on my mood, or what I'm listening to that day I would need probably 2 of them to complement each other. The Clear and the Arya for me it would appear. However, having owned an ELEX I found that the sound was too small in height that wasn't enjoying my music as much. The sound height was so small compared to HD600, Sundara, HE4XX I had on hand and was used to at the time. I worry the clear might share the same problem? Gotta say the Clear Pro and Clear Pro MG are perhaps the best looking aesthetically I have ever seen. WOW! Arya looks ridiculous, but I have enjoyed Hifiman HE4XX, Sundara, and Ananda sound flat but much better with Oratory1990 EQ settings. Thank you for a great comparison!
@jackandrews78213 жыл бұрын
My Clear OG arrive Friday. Can't wait. Next on the docket is the Arya, right after I upgrade my prestige 15b to the 75f from fronts in my home theatre...and also get my ultra towers/sound base set up for upstairs.... My last big mushroom trip turned me into an audiophile. Fuckn expensive trip. Don't do drugs kids
@Simon-dn9kv3 жыл бұрын
Josh, you said the Arya can show some hotness. Judging by your b roll you have a 1st gen Arya. The 2nd gen version comes with a tighter mesh on out outside of the earcups and this version also doesn't suffer from hotness anymore. (At least the 7k peak the 1st gen had is gone).
@bibbyG553 жыл бұрын
I think he has the 2nd gen but took the mesh off himself.
@Simon-dn9kv3 жыл бұрын
@@bibbyG55 On which observation do you base your hypothesis? And if he did so, he should have said so in the video to let viewers know that their Arya experience might be different due to him modding his.
@NotCharAznable3 жыл бұрын
He did a review and he said he took the mesh out. Not sure if it was the Arya review or another Arya related video.
@NotCharAznable3 жыл бұрын
@@Simon-dn9kv He also gushed over the LCDX despite him having a previous version that didn’t have the crazy frequency response the newer models had (up until November 2021). He’s terrible with follow ups lol
@MrGrosMamouth3 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, theese are the choices plus LCD X I would consider if I had the money for another set right now. Nice vid! Maybe next year.
@joelcutinho20203 жыл бұрын
Spot on, the only thing i regret is the lack of treble quantity on Clear Mg, but i cant return this device as its the only HP i can listen to over 5 hours a day without my ears aching, and the bass is too good. I cant use my Sundaras over 2 hours due to fatigue
@juanmillaruelo7647 Жыл бұрын
Physical fatigue (hp weight) or listening fatigue?
@WADEFERRO3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thank you for your class-leading professional and concise videos, Josh.
@quijada123453 жыл бұрын
Josh I was looking to purchase a set of zmfs verites. Have you had a chance to listen to them yet?
@royboivin2 жыл бұрын
I love how the audio on all your videos is pristine.
@ODIOPOWER3 жыл бұрын
Listened to this with my Razer Kraken Kitty 🐈 edition, quartz ofc, the true benchmark.
@briancaulfield72513 жыл бұрын
How does the Clear OG fit into this? It’s a little brighter than the MG so maybe that would be the better option for treble focus
@rkd593 жыл бұрын
I don't know first hand, but from hearing other reviews I would say that the original Clears sound better, though the MGs are supposed to have slightly better resolution. One reviewer said the MGs had an 18khz fatigue issue that only young people can hear. I have the original Clears and I have found little to nothing to dislike about them. They have a non-fatiguing sound without being too warm or dull. The imaging and detail is still very good regardless of what they say about the soundstage. No headphone is perfect but, you can listen to them all day and just enjoy the music without trying to analyze the sound.
@Vikinguy2 жыл бұрын
I've owned all three. The Arya V2 is my second favorite headphone of all time. It's just magical. And I don't care that it occasionally places something out in left field. To me that's just cool as shit. The 800s is the "clearest" set I've ever heard. It's what I think of as High Definition sound. Josh is obviously right about the bass. It's really not there. I've only had the Clear MG a few days. It's not close to 150 hours. But holy god the bass has just opened up for me. lol. It's the most perfectly tight, punchy, dynamic bass I've ever heard on any headphone. Detail is very good. Fit and finish are outstanding. I'll hold off on final judgement for a month or so. But as of right now I'd rank them Arya 800s MG ( with much more information to glean) edit to add that the MG is a mighty big improvement over the OG Clear imo.
@dan-qe1tb2 жыл бұрын
I just heard the Clear Mgs in Dallas, and I believe their bass is as good as any open back headphone below $2000. Audeze headphones, have been a, "power over finesse", experience for me. I could hear more details in bass guitars, with the Aryas and the Clears. The rounded, fuller, presentation, is preferred by some. Aryas, had offered great detail in the bass, but spread over a larger space, where the whack of a kick drum, had felt more subdued. The kick drum was unbelievably enveloping with the LCD-Xs, but I felt I could place it more easily with the other two. I have owned at the over $1000 price point: Clear OG > HiFiMan Arya v2 > Audeze LCD-3 > Audeze LCD-X 2021. Clear OGs, had offered a hyper detailed experience that was all about sharp edges, for me. The Clear Mgs, had that toned down a bit, more "musical" and less "technical". Audezes had sounded more rounded and laid back. They are dark, but musical, headphones. I might end up going with the Arya Stealths. As long as they had fixed the plasticky, thin timbre. I had returned the Arya v2s because I hadn't liked how they had sounded with female vocals.
@questionableidentity12 жыл бұрын
so what's the verdict?
@juanmillaruelo7647 Жыл бұрын
Depends on what you prioritize.
@jacksonhoyt41273 жыл бұрын
im debating on whether or not I should buy one of these, or the lcd 2c. also great video just like all of your other ones.
@shadouxg71503 жыл бұрын
2c not worth it, the treble is not good for the price. The 2 fazor 2020 (With EQ) is worth it, u can get it new for 750, just ask this retailer: karl@tmraudio.com
@juanp7563 жыл бұрын
I have the aryas and the clears I choose focals for vocal music like soul, indie, acoustic with a couple of instruments or music with "noisy" background like rock. Aryas for music with a lot of instruments and that the instruments are supposed to be separated, orchestras, acoustic with several instruments, anything else. I also choose the aryas for gaming and movies. The clears sound really bad here, you get to listen to everything just in your face with no distance, your footsteps, the person that is talking a few steps away, the crickets. In competitive gaming you listen to your enemy around the corner but you don't know exactly how far is he. While the aryas separate the soundtrack to the sound effects to the speech, giving you a better immersive experience. I have never listen to the hd800 but I guess for competitive is better than the aryas.
@dennismanning66843 жыл бұрын
Try a Chesky binaural recording i.e. Noah Wall or Amber Rubarth. The accompanying guitar/mandolin/base "walks away" one foot at a time from HD550s, to Sundara, to Arya.
@juanp7563 жыл бұрын
@@dennismanning6684 Thanks, Amber Rubarth is a good example of what I was trying to explain above. The few songs I listened focused on her voice, the guitar was there just to accompany. I prefer her music on the focal Clear. While Melodys Gardot - Sunset in The Blue album is also a vocalist album, but the other instruments add a lot more to the songs that the Hifimans brings them up in different distances.
@dennismanning66843 жыл бұрын
@@juanp756 Yep, it's all in the recording quality/style. Thx for the Melody reference, very excellent Brazilian like jazz, so much ambient sounds on a wide and very 3 dimensional soundstage...made for the Ayra's esp. Probably next hi-res purchase.
@joggometer53932 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I've all 3 models in my collection (Arya V2, Focal Clear (original) and HD800S) and for me all of them are exceptional for gaming! I mean gaming for pleasure and to relax, mostly singleplayer. Which one i take depends on the mood and on the particular game. Something like an open world title, horizon zero dawn for example is more impressive most of the time and to me more appropiate on an Arya V2 / HD800S. Something like Resident Evil or in general more intimate, closed in experiences sounds in general more impressive on the focals with their visceral punch and smaller, in this regard, more believable soundstage.
@soulfulfool2 жыл бұрын
@@dennismanning6684 love chesky recordings, they always sound like magic on good pair of headphones
@CriPPleR_HD3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I was just hovering over the cart for Arya and Clear when this video popped up in my feed. Keep going back in forth. 🤣 I currently own Beyerdynamic T1 Gen 1 that I use for gaming 60% and Music 40%. I’ve owned the T1’s for over 6 years and really enjoyed them but I have not heard anything in the $1600 price range. If I am looking for a upgrade or something fresh coming off of the T1’s, would you recommend the Arya or the Clears? Or should I consider something cheaper like the Sundara? Current amp is Woo WA6 for tubes and SMSL SP400 for solid state. Current DAC is M400 but thinking about getting a Bifrost 2. Thanks!
@salberini2 жыл бұрын
Clears would be a little weird for gaming, the soundstage ur used to w the t1 would basically disappear entirely and everything would feel closer and tougher to separate accurately. 1990 and the t1 are really good at that. Arya has a big soundstage and detail (good for games) but without the harshness u get w beyers on treble
@mr.dynamite25433 жыл бұрын
I had the Clear. Sold it after purchasing the Arya. LOVE my Arya. Auditioned the Stellia for three weeks...Returned it and kept the Arya. Was going to audition the Clear MG but said, why bother? LOVE my Arya. To me, it has a beautiful signature that sounds sublime with classical and can also jam on electronic drum and bass and jungle when needed. While detailed, the Clear and Stellia were much more analytical in comparison. It sounded as if the emotion was taken out of the music.
@musicxxa66782 жыл бұрын
Try HD800S and LCD X
@JayGreezy2 жыл бұрын
bought the Focal Clear MG Pro, now considering switching to the 800s because I prefer more ambient, downtempo electronica, and think I would benefit more from the larger stage than the "boom" of the focals, which sound better if you like pop music
@Enthiogenic3 жыл бұрын
I have the aryas and focal elex. I was tempted to sell the elex and get a clear before I got the aryas, but I'm happy to settle for what I have now. The arya's are endgame to me. As long as you can power it cleanly so not using it on anything thats at the bare minimum its suitable for everything - movies, games, watching youtube videos etc. I know there are alot of headphones that are probably subjectively and objectively better than the Aryas, but I'm no way willing to spend more than what I paid for the Aryas just to get a small % increase on quality. Now if there was a headphone that did everything the Arya's did for 50% of the RRP, I'd be on in on that one. Out of the stuff I got, Arya's are my favourite than Thieaudio Monarchs (definitely worth their value) and then Focal Elex.
@ES60Hz Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video! What is the best headphones for critical listening details wise? for example, limiter artifacts, mp3 artifacts, clicks, distortion, very low noises in the background, etc....Thanks ahead brother!
@ightimmaheadout290 Жыл бұрын
Hd800s is the most analytical/accurate I believe between the 3, so I would go with that (take with a grain of salt I never listened to it)
@skigeek3 жыл бұрын
Had the Arya for a while but ended up returning them. Kept getting bad headaches due to the fit. Gave them about three weeks. Absolutely amazing sound, but just couldn't stop the headaches. Very seriously considering the Clears.
@h.hristov2 жыл бұрын
how come? what caused the headaches?
@themastroiannis Жыл бұрын
@@h.hristov too much Treble, probably?
@juanmillaruelo7647 Жыл бұрын
The big cups pressing against a facial nerve?
@krucacing3 жыл бұрын
tried the mg n arya. mg good bass but limited soundstage, no wow factor. arya wow you in soundstage but have that planar bass lacking in powerr. all about compromise...how high in price we have to go to find one without compromise? better idea just buy 2 lower priced set with distinct strength..
@sebastianmeierr.17573 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua I have an 800s and I did some eq on them (oratory 1990 using Roon) and the sound was very good. However I would try a planar magnetic (ananda or Arya) do you believe that is an upgrade ? Greetings from Chile
@briantomasinomedia50773 жыл бұрын
the lcd-x is a great compliment to the 800s. Like polar opposites. I have and love both!
@sebastianmeierr.17573 жыл бұрын
@@briantomasinomedia5077 thanks for the suggestion! I will study the lcd-x!
@GiulianoM143 жыл бұрын
Wena. Te compro los 800s jaja
@sebastianmeierr.17573 жыл бұрын
@@GiulianoM14 jajajaja no los puedo vender (regalo de mi esposa), saludos
@nikolaygramchev3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua, very found of your reviews. The make me do my choices more precisely. I really wish, if you are so fond of Clear MG, to check and do a review on Elegia. The Elegia has the Focal sound signature but makes music sound like coming from big home sound system. Think that this may be interesting.
@revelationsoundstudio2 жыл бұрын
Josh, I have the Focal Clear MG's which I like a lot, but also want headphones that have a bigger sound stage and more open treble response, it seems the 800s would be a good choice. Not sure if I would be satisfied with just the 800s however as it has a thinner sound, and the bass and mids are not as big as the Focal Clear MG's. Would you say the Beyerdynamic 1990s would be a good 2nd choice for meeting that bigger sound stage and open top end without spending over a$1,000. for headphones or do you really need to spend the money for the 800s if you want that type of character. Thanking you in advance.
@geekanoids3 жыл бұрын
What are the main differences between the Clear MG and the Pro?
@Hell4Gamers3 жыл бұрын
According to Focal the sound is the same, it's just what's in the box that is different.
@christopher18003 жыл бұрын
@@Hell4Gamers Strangely enough, the reviews say otherwise. Might have something to do with the earpads. Almost everyone says the Clear MG has better soundstage. Another reason for that might be that the Pro doesn’t have a balanced cable included. Soundstage could be better on the MG with its balanced cable and the correct equipment.
@RC-qc2nz3 жыл бұрын
@@christopher1800 no. The mg pro and the normal clear mg are the same headphones. Just different color and other cables.
@christopher18003 жыл бұрын
@@RC-qc2nz I believe you, it’s just that some reviewers don’t. Anyway, I chose the Clear MG for its balanced cable. The aftermarket for decent balanced cables is practically non-existent here in the Netherlands. And those earpads are built to last with the microfibre material, so I don’t expect those to wear down too quickly.
@StrawMan33 жыл бұрын
@@christopher1800 What reviewers? Never heard heard or read that anywhere.
@marc8vino Жыл бұрын
Beyer 1990 pro is better for mixing / mastering? I just ordered the clear mg and mg pros thinking it was a big jump in level over the 1990's that I have. I'll have to do some listening. It's nice to hear your thoughts. Thank You
@samlee25623 жыл бұрын
Try and get your hands on the LSA HP-1..! It's a phenomenal little know flagship headphone that I bought based on the 2 reviews that exist out there! I'd love hear your thoughts on it Josh! ✊ 😙 Thanks for all the slick content dude
@Jay7ona3 жыл бұрын
I just got the clear mg's home 2 days ago. Powering it with the monolith thx amp recommended from this channel. It could be the headphones need some time to burn in but I thought there would be more 'slam' as I kept hearing through reviews. Should I learn how to eq the bass up a bit?.. I do prefer more bass naturally... Thoughts or places to visit to read about eq...?
@JimmieJamOfTheDayАй бұрын
I don't use any amps. Just the phones with my Zunes. Love the Clear MGs but want to hear how the Stealth will sound as well. May purchase later.
@sinistercollector92233 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just so you know a lot of your Amazon links are not working (i.e., the links under "TOP 3 FAVORITE CLOSED BACK HEADPHONES")
@krypto_98723 жыл бұрын
If you can't choose... just get them all 😉
@Skeith893 жыл бұрын
HD800S is the best because of very good resolution and borderless out of head soundstage just like real world... The tonal balance problem can be fixed via parametric EQ or amp matching...
@mikecoshan37523 жыл бұрын
Can I ask what amp and dac you have to get the best out of the 800s
@tnarch3 жыл бұрын
@@mikecoshan3752 i have listened hd800 with pioneer u5 dac and auralic taurus mkii. End game...
@mikecoshan37523 жыл бұрын
@@tnarch thanks very much for the information
@tnarch3 жыл бұрын
@@mikecoshan3752 generally they work well with higher output impedance amps. Like beyerdynamic a1 or tube amps like little dot mkiv or vincent amps. But auralic taurus that i heard once was at another level...
@rewardilicious3 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, I've been watching a lot of your videos and I've been wondering if for each of the "categories" like soundstage, if you could do a price per performance comparison perhaps where you define where you get 20% more "quality" for 20% more you spend versus 10% more for 20% you spend and so on (if possible with AMP/DAC included.) Sometimes with your videos it's hard to notice how much you are taking into account the pricing, for example, I still don't know how much better the Diana V2 is versus a $1,000 headphone for every extra dollar you spend (versus a linear increase per dollar.)
@mohameds9217 Жыл бұрын
I am not a technical guy so I like what you said in the end. Summarized and to the point. 👍
@MCSquidward3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the LCD 2Cs for gaming and chill music listening?
@AlvarWahle Жыл бұрын
You're really good at this
@Martin-zn5hk3 жыл бұрын
my Arya's stopped working 2 years after purchase. only 1 year warranty (wtf?)....$1600 down the drain
@renamamiya91282 жыл бұрын
Wow that sounds terrible, they should offer at least 3 year minimum or more
@johnmatheny46963 жыл бұрын
What do you think is better.T he ath ad700x, or the pc38x headset?
@TheSteve572 жыл бұрын
Which of these would work best with Zen Dac/Can, if any ???
@BerserkeR_0313 жыл бұрын
Does Josh reply to comments? I have the HD800S combined with the HDV820 for the flat and crystal clear sound with a big soundstage. But i'd like to explore other cans for more electronic music/more bass heavy music, . Which cans would you recommend in 2021-2022?
@20puskinas19923 жыл бұрын
You can eq it. Takes eq like a champ and wont distort.
@popops33 жыл бұрын
so how does the lcd x stand up now ?
@SussyBaka-em9rq3 жыл бұрын
What I wanted to ask as well
@olegneftianikov6267 Жыл бұрын
I like all models of HIFIMAN headphobes.Tell me please:whish model has more bass and punch for listening to heavy rock music ? Or better Focal Clean MG ?. Thank You
@trixniisama3 жыл бұрын
I'm really interested to hear what headphones you think has a "perfect treble response" Great video !!
@azad-428624 күн бұрын
HD600/650
@trixniisama24 күн бұрын
@@azad-4286 Coincidentally, that's what I own at the moment
@azad-428624 күн бұрын
@@trixniisama Dope stuff! It’s one of my favourites at ANY price point!
@TheDigitalcrack2 жыл бұрын
Just based on everything said here I would take a 660s, Sundara, or even a 58x before I ever spend the money that these are demanding and yet still has all these issues or limits.
@catonlsd33 жыл бұрын
Josh... stop saying the Clear is not for pro use as it definitely is exactly for that! (for reference QC-ing in mixing/mastering more specifically) ... You maybe associated like this because the DT 1990 is boosted in treble by comparison. I can tell you for sure that the DT1990 is way too bright for referencing! .. I don't use it nor recommend it without a precisely set corrective eq per unit.
@WADEFERRO3 жыл бұрын
You've asked before for review recommendations; I would greatly appreciate your take on the HEDDphone. Also the LCD-X 2021 version (which is very different than the original).
@dougleydorite3 жыл бұрын
I got it and had to send it back. Zero bass
@josephrcase3 жыл бұрын
Looks at these headphones...looks at bank account...sighs...still watches video...
@yogiwp_3 жыл бұрын
Wonder how ZMF Auteur or Eikon fare in this range.
@AZ3Chan3 жыл бұрын
Bought the Focal Clears and I love them!
@dapperbrick75163 жыл бұрын
Clear or Clear MG?
@AZ3Chan3 жыл бұрын
@@dapperbrick7516 mg sorry
@NoahDanteSmyth3 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh! I commented this on another video, but I'm really hoping you'll see it this and either make a video or just do a quick 2 minute test and let me know your findings! I would love to see you do a video analyzing MQA and their claims about lossless performance. It recently came out that Tidal doesn't actually serve FLAC files anymore just a downsampled MQA and the MQA adds audible noise and artifacts. I'm sure you've seen the video going around, if not I can link you but I don't want to be mistaken for promoting it. I honestly didn't want to believe it, because I loved Tidal and it is better than Spotify, but I tested myself with a free trial of Qobuz and I found identical results to the video. Qobuz blows it away, it's like a layer of grime has been cleaned off the audio, much more clarity and depth and silent moments are actually silent! Not only can I confirm added noise and distortion, I noticed a complete loss of fine and quiet details on my favorite tracks between Qobuz and Tidal. MQA really is a fraud!
@consistency19073 жыл бұрын
No point askin him mate, cus he aint responding to any comments lol
@aceofspades66673 жыл бұрын
I’m an OG clear fan and sold the Hd800 immediately but Never tried the S. Also never tried the Arya.
@DiegoIrving22 жыл бұрын
Are focal clear Mg pro worth picking up for 590 usd?
@ElvenSpellmaker3 жыл бұрын
I love my HD800s but they're completely awful at bass even with a sharp EQ. I'm hoping the 8XX will help slightly with this.
@allydea3 жыл бұрын
I like their bass, no problem.
@DB-Lackaufbereitung2 жыл бұрын
Very nice comparison. Thank you. However, once again I miss the following: NO reviewer talks about the clipping problem of the MG. When asked about it, I usually get the answer that it doesn't matter in practice. This is simply not true. There are some tracks where the MG clips so fast, that it was a reason for me to give it back.
@sklegg Жыл бұрын
Which songs specifically show clipping in the MG?
@ghas4151 Жыл бұрын
I have the Clear MG and I have never experienced clipping. You either have a defective example or you’re playing at levels where you don’t care about your ears. And the Focals will clip past a certain point by design. It’s the reason why they’re some of the most dynamic headphones around. Mind you, you shouldn’t be anywhere near that “certain point” unless you want to destroy your ears.
@DB-Lackaufbereitung Жыл бұрын
@@ghas4151 No. This is a compromise-related problem that Focal addressed years ago in Head-Fi. And by the way, there are many reports there that also confirm this. It's no secret that the Focal clear / MG, Utopia/ 2022 clip on certain tracks, even at moderate volume. I had 3 MG, 2 Utopia and 1 Utopia 2022. They all clipped like hell on certain tracks. Amir from ASR, also noticed it very quickly in his Clear test.
@Cesare.Maffioletti3 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned two HD800, a Clear, and i own now the Arya. For me, the Arya was the best choice. It has all i want from a great headphone 1) excellent sounstage 2) very good bass 3) great tonal balance. The Clear was too weak in the soundstage, while the hd800s were too harsh and anemic in bass response. Arya is my love.
@mr.dynamite25433 жыл бұрын
You just wrote what i was going to write word for word. Lol.
@blessedred3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Do you think a Topping DX7 Pro could power an Arya?
@pascaljean23333 жыл бұрын
Like he said in the video. You need a beefy amp to get the right sound from the arya. A90, singxer sa1, audio gd etc
@ninq17553 жыл бұрын
I used to use the DX7 Pro with the Arya and they could easily power them at -20 to -15db. I added a Jotunheim 2 recently for more versatility (kept the DX7 Pro as a DAC), but I reckon you could do well with the Topping as an endgame amp.
@blessedred3 жыл бұрын
@@ninq1755 Did you ever any problems in the S region?
@ninq17553 жыл бұрын
@@blessedred Do you mean sibilance? Not really with the Arya. It's not a sibilant headphone. What does occasionally happen is that there's some shimmer in the treble that can get a bit intense but it's rare.
@kugelschreiber56783 жыл бұрын
I have the Arya’s and the Clears. I WAS going to get the HD800S... till I got to demo them at my friends place. Yeah. No. Lol. My ears felt like they were being murdered. Mind you, my daily drivers were the DT1990’s for a few years - I LOVED them - so treble wasn’t much of an issue.... Till the HD800S lmao. I’m thinking of getting the MG’s, and then the LCD-X to complete the fleet :). Oh, and for those curious; I prefer the Arya’s over the Clears for MOST genres. The latter kicks the formers ass in more aggressive music though; rock, mainly. The Arya’s soundstage and sub bass capabilities are just delectable.
@soulfulfool2 жыл бұрын
I like that we can use aftermarket cable the same for both :)
@juanmillaruelo7647 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the notorious 6 kHz peak? You can EQ it out with Roon, RME, Wavelet, etc etc. No biggie. Or you get used to it like you did with the DT1990...
@RemitheDreamfox2 жыл бұрын
I just can't get over how absolutely goofy the Arya looks when on a head, it's like you become a robot
@ightimmaheadout290 Жыл бұрын
yeah it looks alright side view, but front view/back view looks stupid with that stiff top metal band
@davidmason82123 жыл бұрын
4:55 The sound BTW congratulations for hitting 100k subs 🥰
@san-chil2 жыл бұрын
How would a Beyerdynamic DT 1990 compare against these? Just curious...
@SoundSpectrum3 жыл бұрын
i used the Focal Clear Pro's for about a week and just couldn't get used to the lack of treble response. and no matter how i adjusted the EQ it just wasnt there. i used several amplifiers also. the bass though, OMG. it was strong and watching a movie with those is an absolute pleasure since you have the vocal boost and bass you can hear all of the dialog. but i sent them back as i listen to music mostly with headphones while photo editing and the lack on timbre response just wouldn't do it for me. i stepped up to the Stellias and are now demoing those for a bit. completely different sound signature for sure!
@andrasnelhiebel67263 жыл бұрын
If you have a chance, try the original Clears. I have both now, and the MG sounds like putting a pillow in the original Clears. The vocals and the details are so much better on the older one! I will send the MG back and I stay happy with my lovely Clears.
@wolfs.26432 жыл бұрын
Ich habe meinen Focal Clear MG pro seit einigen Tagen und kann überhaupt nicht bestätigen, dass er ein mangelndes Klangbild im Höhenbereich hat. Ich betreibe ihn an einem RME Adi-2 DAC FS. So unterschiedlich und individuell kann eine Hörerfahrung sein!
@innerworth11 ай бұрын
Did you run in the headphones as suggested in the manual? I found it improved the treble.
@mohammedbazhair20002 жыл бұрын
What the best set up for arya and hd800s??
@dentboxhero17173 жыл бұрын
Now is there a headphone that represent or closely embodies all the strong points of these 3? Or maybe a headphone that can achieve, in a sense, the strong points of the 3 using only the ADI-2 DAC fs?
@jacksonhoyt41273 жыл бұрын
could an Apollo twin drive these well?
@ThinkDoTA3 жыл бұрын
I got both 800s and Arya and I can say for gaming like FPS, single player, multiplayer, ARYA is a clear winner. The imaging, soundstage is phenomenal and realistic if compare to 800s..
@allydea3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Fang, is that you?
@LustVanGoth3 жыл бұрын
Do a comparison betwen Takstar HF 580 and Goldplanar Gl2000