I was WRONG about the ASUS Zenfone 8

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I have a confession to make: after all of my kvetching about the direction ASUS decided to go with their latest releases, weeks went by and I realized that the Zenfone 8 has been in my pocket the most. So, I was wrong about the ASUS Zenfone 8 -- so let's explore that as I talk about what worked and what didn't.
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[@jvtechtea]

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[@kfirsadeh6090]

The code isn't working

[@godnezha1870]

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[@TheDreameater26]

Code doesn't work 😭

[@shambhavisalunkhe9438]

Vivo X60 pro vs Zenfone 8 please

[@theshadow5352]

Can I ask the model number of the white coloured Japanese phone cover that you got from Rhinoshield

[@ruturajbhosale9227]

In my opinion it's the most underrated phone this year.

[@gunturpasopatipamungkas2340]

Nah, not really

[@ezrapardede1921]

Agreed

[@ravivar.]

How it's underrated if every reviewer who got this phone is giving it rave reviews, only if Asus make it available to masses it will be famous

[@gunturpasopatipamungkas2340]

@@ravivar. i think his feed full of realme and xiaomi lmao,

[@chinmaybapat6774]

Every year Asus makes good phones which aren't as hyped but just as good as the competition.

[@sstrider_11]

No gimmicks no fancy stuff just a basic, all around great phone Love the vid

[@erroristmusic]

is the battery that terrible?

[@jaypunzalan6999]

Zenfone 8 checks all the essentials without spending a thousand bucks

[@wheezel55]

even iphones aren't that pricey now. £599 (same price as this) for the iPhone 12 mini (although it has 64gb only...)

[@triparadox.c]

The oled display kills it for me. I don't wanna see burn in after a month or a year

[@jaypunzalan6999]

@@triparadox.c every flagship has oled, if you want lcd display just buy budget phone

[@triparadox.c]

@@jaypunzalan6999 It's something that a flagship shouldn't use honestly. OLED technology is highly flawed considering even the high end one may suffer burn in as quickly as within a month. They should start adopting Nano IPS instead since it does give great color gamut and contrast far superior than IPS while not suffering from screen burn in. My thinking goes like this: why use highly expensive panel for the sake of temporary color superiority that doesn't even last 6 months?

[@RandomUser-tj3mg]

@@triparadox.c Screen burn in is not a big issue if you use it correctly

[@ambidex5383]

100% my next phone. Just launched in the US for $600.

[@uraniumjoe]

Same here, T-White. Have mine on the way!

[@donrngiewsohlang2518]

Just buy an iphone , android sucks

[@freddykrueger3591]

​@@donrngiewsohlang2518 after months of using an iPhone I prefer an android. iOS is a jail

[@krecikowi]

@@donrngiewsohlang2518 except when you want to side load some apps.

[@cyberslash11]

@@donrngiewsohlang2518 If even someone like Freddy Krueger prefers android, that should seal it. 😂

[@jasrajzlimbu8463]

Zenfones are one of the most underrated phones out there, I remember buying my first Zenfone. My office mates liked the phone so much that they ended up buying one and while I have switched to another brand, they are still clinging to their zenfone. The feature rich phone what attracted me and my friends 🙂🙂🙂

[@abhaymhatre8534]

True

[@warnacokelat]

how many years did the phone get updates and support from asus? 3 years?

[@azwawahab5209]

I use zenfone max pro 2 2019 until today.. Luv it

[@jasrajzlimbu8463]

@@warnacokelat I can't remember it clearly, maybe a couple of years.

[@fitnessuniverse111]

I've just got this one,still use Zen 3... yes,I am still using that old favorite of mine.:) Now,its a bit of change and I still have to learn all the features ,cause I've used to "old" one, a bit more simple to use. First thing is how to get back fast - you dont have icon at the bottom like Zen5,so you have to do from the display. :) Any tips and tricks for better usage and quality performance will be highly appreciated...

[@mickeyatbp]

another awesome review! keep it, man! love your insights specially in taking account of different user experience.

[@wishwanderer5664]

Wonderful. The best thing I like about your videos is your use of language in the script. It really is great and does add a lot to a tech review and insight channel like yours.

[@stevenwest1494]

I gotta say, after over 7 months of using this phone its only gotten worse. Finger print scanner doesn't ever work with a glass screen protector. There are no decent or good cases for this phone to help mitigate the fact it doesn't have a glass screen protector, aaaaaand the screen lock doesn't work under any circumstances. Today I actually had the phone fully turn off in my pocket. I regularly make pocket calls, send pocket messages, and I have no idea any of its happening. I have to carry the phone screen side away from my body, just to try and mitigate the amount of times the screen comes unlocked, and THEN the screen is exposed behind a flimsly layer of denim say in a pocket. There's a special setting in the phone called Asus Pocket Assistance, and it actually makes ZERO difference to the phone, I gave up on that "assistance" over 3 months ago. Oh and if you try and put a film protector on the rear cameras, every photo you take comes out taken from inside a cloud.

[@joelconolly5574]

The ZenFone 8 is what we call as the back to basic phone. They should add a plus variant of the 8 which is basically a bigger ZenFone 8 plus telephoto and then update the 7 Pro as an 8 pro. Could be cool to see to be honest.

[@niphanif]

Pls dont add Pro version they will remove good feature on regular Zenfone 8/9 like lower display specs, camera, etc

[@comrade_rahul_1]

Actually there is something existing like that which is called as Zenfone Flip. Both phone are cool and best

[@thealterlion7163]

@@comrade_rahul_1 the zenfone 8 flip has a lower refresh rate 90hz screen, same resolution and worse camera

[@DMulabiTalejan]

A PHONE SHOULD NOT TAKE ALL OF YOUR HANDS!! This is my next phone. I just switched from a Zen 5.7 to 6.5 inch splurge and already miss my old fon.

[@riteshnegi9280]

I am really looking forward to get this one when it is launched in India. What about the heating issue? Has it been resolved?

[@elsanto8879]

Outstanding review my man! I would definitely rock this phone.

[@samuelrowland1209]

I honestly couldn't wait to see the new Zenfone. I was really worried that I would have to make the decision between speed and a small form factor. I've gotten so used to my old S8 that I couldn't imagine going with something bigger. Now that the Zenfone 8 is out in the US, I made sure to scoop it up as soon as possible. It solves both of my problems with my previous phone, the first being the obviously lackluster performance being a 4 generation old phone and the second being the curved glass on the front. I just always liked the flat fronts better.

[@sublime_tv]

i have an s9 now and this screams like a great replacement because I too am not a fan of the curved screens. my only problem is that the price is a little steep.

[@rdlkino]

What do you think about thermal performance? Does it overheat with normal use? and with navigation on android auto? Or does it go crazy only with games?

[@ravindraprasad8636]

Hey Congrats on the 200K Subs. U deserve it Man. Hope it'll be a Mil Soon.

[@alvint2635]

What an underrated channel. Love the detailed reviews!

[@alexeiz]

The international variant on sale on Amazon doesn't support 5G in the US, does it?

[@jeffjemaol5009]

I like the size of the phone but what I would like to see on the next zenfone is a side mounted fingerprint scanner (which is faster and accurate) and a slim bezel on top for the selfie camera like Sony Xperia III. Having a slim bezel on top is not bad than having punch holes or notch and way more cleaner. Zenfone should be plain/simple on the outside but beast on the inside. not a fan of the flip camera btw 😅

[@muan_tea]

Totally agree, I'm using meizu 16th currently and I'd say its pretty close to perfect in terms of design

[@jg6111]

Great review. What's your take on call quality & haptic moto performance?

[@jvtechtea]

Call quality is fine, nothing wrong there. And the haptics are good -- doesn't have what I would call that high pitched vibration that cheaper phones tend to have

[@GlobalMapping02]

This phone is great, but how much android os updates will it get? And what android version does it ship with out of the box? Im deciding this or zenphone 9 which will release later in 2022

[@naveenjain877]

Hi JV. You didn't mentioned about charging speed & about speakers. Is this ip68.??

[@Le_MattzZ]

Is the battery life of this phone good enough in your opinion?

[@michaelmajor6595]

How long does it last if you're on intagram or tiktok and other platforms but not gaming? Thank you

[@sahjadfarouqui]

nice video brother.. can you please do a camera comparison of the Asus Zenfone 8 with other flagships like the Oneplus 9 pro and others

[@warnacokelat]

How long will Asus support their Zenfone?

[@Unknowner291]

Btw i have an issue with Microsoft launcher whenever i swipe up to go in home menu i get a second delay. Do u have it too? How can i disable this delay

[@clydemarshall8095]

Can you use it with Verizon?

[@danilog79]

What's the software like? Is reception good on this phone.

[@yungchie5218]

ask, can it be dual apps with the default system? clone apps are not social media, but other apps?

[@jwag3028]

Has the hardware been updated or at least the software in an attempt to reduce the number of occasions you could fry an egg from the heat the phone produces ?

[@skyMcWeeds]

Its a no frills phone that just plain works, glad Asus is going back to what really matters. its the reason why I still have and use my old Asus Zenfones 3 and 4.

[@SwapnenduKar]

Superb review. I don't know when I will get it in India.

[@Magnetar83]

How are the haptics?

[@newphonexp]

What is the software support like on Asus ? Is there website to tracks software support like sammobile for Samsung?

[@seraphoem]

Wrestling AND Abroad in Japan. Love the content you used for the screen hehe. Honestly the Zenfone would have been my best choice, but the price difference and more importantly lack of SD card slot left me with sticking to Samsung's A52 5G. Still an otherwise solid comact flagship.

[@stevenswall]

Does the fingerprint reader work with optics or ultrasonics.

[@emerykrauzer4741]

i bought it last week and i keep it in box iam afraid ramdump issue show up. did they fix it so i can use the phone. or i just sell it asap.

[@aditya.750]

Hey JV could you please contact your contact from Asus asking why they are delaying the release of the Zenfone lineup in India? I have been repeatedly asking them about any info or release date or just info about why there is a delay but all I get is a Robotic pre written message saying your patience is appreciated. Also loved your channel and even I want to daily driver that is compact.

[@theshadow5352]

Can I ask the model number of the white coloured Japanese phone cover that you got from Rhinoshield?

[@Siomai-]

1:01 where Can i find this keyboard?

[@danpeak]

Is their a U.S. variant and if so what is the model number for the 8?

[@ccroy2001]

I like the aesthetic of both the Pixel a phones and this Zen Fone. They just look clean.

[@koreypaul6698]

I agree - a Pixel 4a user 😁

[@ccroy2001]

@@koreypaul6698 me too 4a.

[@DClairRobinson]

Good replacement for the Galaxy S8 then?

[@coolpoete]

*taking a shot every time you say "Flippy-dippy"*

[@christianvillarosa1020]

already drunk after 3 shots🥴

[@paulbaskerville5725]

Hey Josh, how do I get that wallpaper on your zenfone 8?

[@mixalismixail2380]

Problems With battery Cameras and mainly updates..... How did you change your mind?

[@Reb0912]

From Android Authority to now, Joshua have always just evolved. 🙂

[@jvtechtea]

I do what I can. Thanks for the kind words!

[@bubblefoil]

Does anybody know how to disable annoying auto-play when connecting BT headphones? My previous phone did not do that, it can't be caused by the headphones.

[@Chemy.]

Looks like you feel this one as i feel the LG Wing, I mean, they could be doing the great but are doing good enough

[@pizzalikepizza]

Idk why the simple minimalist design like this phone and Pixels make me feel the more you look and use it the more you will like it. Its classic man.

[@SpaceWithSam]

Nice video 👍😊

[@avghosh]

Hi I am struggling to choose between s20fe 5g and asus zenfone 8. I mainly use it for watching youtube, taking call, use as GPS in my car and taking pictures/videos. They are similarly priced here in Australia. I want one with good cameras, and has decent battery to last me the whole day(s20fe has a larger battery, but a bigger screen to power, whereas the asus has a smaller screen, and a newer processor). S20fe comes with 6gb of Ram here in AU, and asus with 8gb of Ram. I have an Asus Max Pro 2, at the moment. The battery is fine, but after sales software updates is a concern for the Asus, and hoping it would be better with Samsung. The OS is clean for Asus, so it's a plus, but samsung comes with its security and other perks. Can you please help me choose? Please remember the camera and the battery life.

[@avghosh]

@JackBauer137 Yes, I did buy the s20Fe, 8GB Ram, Dual Sim. Bought it a couple of months back. S21 FE did not have a definitive release date, so did not wait for it. Since I bought the international variant with 8GB Ram, I think I am covered for the future. I am not after the latest and greatest. I am happy with what I have got, for the price I paid for it.

[@coxxycabee]

9:37 is great The Pixel 5 is for people that want a good camera that happens to be a decent phone. The Zenfone 8 is for people that want a good phone that happens to have a decent camera.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

Two years ago, my Zenphone 5 malfunctioned and was repaired via warranty within three days. Gotta say, that's one fine service if I dare say so compared with Applecare.

[@fichtenzaepfle]

Super video! Greetings from Germany!

[@comrade_rahul_1]

No wireless charging.. Liked that No bigger size.. Liked that SD 888.. Liked that ZenUI.. Liked that Price.. Liked that Simple color. Liked that. You would use case or skin anyway. Usable camera.. Liked that Underrated phone.. Sad for that.

[@deveronrobertson4184]

Can we buy this unlocked in America?

[@DavidGreen_au]

Having just placed an order for the Zenfone 8, I watched this video with some trepidation. But my fears were allayed :) I did pick the Zenfone 8 for its form factor. My current phone is an Xperia Compact, and I despaired at the lack of compact offerings that were currently around. The Zenfone 8 seemed to be the best after spending a couple of weeks looking at various options and price points. It was, indeed, a very interesting perspective on the Zenfone 8.

[@animeshpandey8727]

I am also planning to buy it. Can you please comment on phone's battery performance and heating issues if you faced any!?

[@DavidGreen_au]

@@animeshpandey8727 I have not noticed any significant heating issue, nor any serious battery issue either. But that of course is going to depend on one's usage style. I don't use any high memory/CPU demanding software, on working days, my phone usage is a minimum so ending mostly at 40% charge. On non-working days, it may drop to under 10% sometimes. I employ the battery saver function, so charging stops at 80% at the end of an overnight charge (I adopted this feature after using my Sony phone which trickled the last 20% to when it was unplugged in the morning).

[@animeshpandey8727]

@@DavidGreen_au Thanks for the info. I myself am not a heavy user. Mostly social media, music and KZbin/Netflix. From that usage perspective it looks like a one day easy charge I guess.

[@bubblefoil]

@@animeshpandey8727 I can confirm. I was skeptical in the beginning but after the initial updates, setup and activating medium power saving mode, it seems to go from 80 to about 35 during one day. Today it went down to 68% in 6 hours. I mostly listen to podcasts. There are 5 saving modes, 3 of them highly configurable. Also there are some nice battery care features.

[@animeshpandey8727]

@@bubblefoil sounds awesome. Appreciate the details 😀

[@Bentakur]

200k very soon!

[@stephenstrebel8165]

Hi - i bought the phone right when it came out.. love it.. but i have one unsolved oddity i cannot resolve.. maybe someone can help: When the phone sleeps (by itself) and then locks - when i unlock the device it always goes back to home screen. Very annoying if i have a sport app running during the day, or hiking and want the map app to be open when i unlock (as i used this just before the sleep).. oddly, if i force the screen lock and sleep by hitting the power button quickly, and then i unlock, the app is (correctly) still running when i unlock.. Anyone have a smart idea?

[@stephenstrebel8165]

Fyi - other than this, i love the phone, and my reason to buy it was size, power and i wanted to be on android again.. and great price value

[@SajanSajan-yw2qi]

its have any heating issues ?

[@junky32]

Y'all think it'll work well with Google Fi? Just ordered one in US

[@jvtechtea]

I'm using it on Fi now, it's great :)

[@muhammadshahriarkabir4450]

How's the software updates? Does it get monthly security updates property?

[@tr33c21]

Yes

[@saiachuth7666]

hey Josh, how's the haptics on the zenfone 8?could u compare it to that of the iPhone .

[@jvtechtea]

Haptics on the iPhone are better, but not necessarily because of feel -- iOS just tends to be more thoughtful of it's feedback. The Zenfone 8 is perfectly fine, doesn't feel cheap or what I would call high pitched in the vibrations

[@saiachuth7666]

@@jvtechtea ohh nice!.....Great review btw.

[@Xmove]

Finally got my hand on this phone! This is literally almost everything I want in a phone.. small compact body (in this time), powerful performance and simple software no "gimmicky" feature.

[@e.p.2925]

I'm wondering how does this zen8 vs the pixel 4a

[@BaronKsatria]

This one or Sony Xperia 5? I need a new phone. Currently using Xperia XZ Premium.

[@Abudness]

Hey JV, the the only youtuber who doesn't clean phones for reviews. Kudos to you man 👍🏼

[@emerykrauzer4741]

did they fix ramdump issue

[@Hephthehomie]

Awesome nujabes poster. I enjoyed your video, but seeing the poster made me sure i was gonna subscribe, lol.

[@watchandspray]

Thinking of getting this for my channel. Would've liked the Flippy dippy but none of those iterations come with a headphone jack which I need for my external camera.

[@lividmatter4862]

Just ordered one to replace my trusty OnePlus 6. I love small form factor. I also love my 60% keyboard, that with extra key mapping layers has just as much functionality as a full size :)

[@johncaban4310]

wish they kept the side finger print sensor. Love this more than the in screen ones.

[@urt4332]

battery life better than Pixel 5?

[@Charkatak]

When this phone came out Asus was giving it for $599(pretty much $30 discount), but slow updates and lack of wireless charging made me think twice ...I just kept my Pixel 5

[@simaoduarte6861]

I was actually one step closer to buy Zenfone 8 ( and i still want to ) but I've done some research and it seems that users who bought Zenfone 8 are having issues with "Ramdump". Far as I'm concerned, ASUS didn't release a statement about it. Did you had any problems with the phone? Appreciate the video and keep up!

[@pseidon4086]

What is ramdump... Plss explain

[@hopeinen5287]

@@pseidon4086 Late answer. Essentially your phone became bricked and needed to be sent for repairs. Dont know how widespread the issue was but it seemed to happen on earlier production patches of Z8 and the ROG phone. Havent seen much complaints since last summer so i wouldnt worry too much about it now, unless you are looking to buy a used phone.

[@pseidon4086]

@@hopeinen5287 I see.... thank you, now I'm considering the Poco f3

[@Naxxx.110]

A CS undergrad here, who often games a bit. I am seeing there's a mad race going on of putting bizzare numbers of cameras in every phone & everyone is making larger displays. For budget gamers, we would definitely like exchanging the unnecessary cameras for a better CPU & battery. Also large screens are problematic for one handed operations -if the resolution is good, it shouldn't be an issue if only one person has to see the screen. Suppose you are watching a vid with somebody, why would you see on your phone when you have a laptop with bigger screen instead.

[@davidibarra6730]

This was interesting experience for me as I have the S21 Ultra and M11 Ultra, when I first handled the Zen Fone 8 it was an interesting experience not having to deal with gymnastics to handle the other phones, I thought the ZF8 would be a mid tier or mid performer but listening to Spotify with my high end earphones while doing email and other things and after that playing games and just coming to the realization that the ZF8 never missed a beat. Pictures were on par with my OP9 Pro , battery was great and BTW it did not feel like a brick on my pocket started beg the question why did we migrate to the Frankenstein size phones, it's not screen resolution as this thing is awesome, it's not audio capabilities as again this phone beats the other ones, it's not chipset, it's not battery , most people told me it's the camera but really who needs 50x zoom,etc??. This phone has become my daily personal driver, I do use the Fold 2 for work but mostly in tablet mode. This little beast is staying by my side. Greta Video and Thoughts!!!!!!

[@paulgal]

Do u still like it ?

[@davidibarra6730]

@@paulgal yes I do and still use it

[@paulgal]

@@davidibarra6730 I have a OnePlus 7t do u think it's a massive upgrade from that ? I love the headphone jack and the small screen.

[@hasnayensalman2697]

I couldn't find this one from our local store and my brother got me this full in retail box from My World Phone.

[@parthmalani6286]

I am not a fan of small phones but this with the pixel camera unit and processing will be such a beast.

[@bajwa_S]

Looking forward to buy this one. Compact + almost stock android.

[@munishkhanduja2405]

I wanna get this phoen in India. How can I get it?

[@tridip.chakraborty]

What's with the 2 Wifi signal icons? Never seen such stuff.

[@fpl_bailey]

Once time goes by and this start selling for under $500 then it's definitely a great pickup

[@danielryan6058]

I wish ASUS would build a separate “Ultra” phone, that’s different from the ROG for the masses, I think they would do it right

[@xphyle]

Where's the ZTE Axon 30 Ultra review you promised over a month ago??

[@brian5030]

Thanks for your review. I am seriously considering this because it is a compact and powerful phone. I use my phone everyday for work and it needs to be in my pocket so my hands are free. These larger phones just do not suit my purpose so I guess I will pay more for less (size) and get more performance. Camera is very low priority for me.

[@varunsonagra4562]

I love compact zenfone 8, and was gonna buy it. But Camera is a must need for me. I could compromise on performance a little, but camera should have been better. Though would love to see compact phones more! Kudos to @Asus !!

[@pineapple7086]

Camera is not good?

[@Calocarv]

Colours are washed out and dull

[@LetsBringThePain]

Salut to the Flippy Dippy but to me this Asus Zenfone 8 is just the phone of the year so far 💪 even though those 2021 Sony Xperia flagships are extremely appealing (especially 1 III)

[@spitfire7914]

Also 5 iii which I can't get in India😢

[@LetsBringThePain]

@@spitfire7914 yeah, I have 5 II already and very happy with it, so if you will get a chance to try out a Sony flagship, I would easilly say go for it ✌

[@spitfire7914]

@@LetsBringThePain Great

[@awladhossain1153]

And our beloved MKBHD hasn't reviewed this outstanding phone yet.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

He's too busy doing Lenovo ads. 😂😂😂

[@shahabasms5674]

I like his videos. But truth is he is apple fanboy. He even upload videos about iPhone software updates and didn't make videos of these phones. LOL 🤣😆

[@awladhossain1153]

@@shahabasms5674 Undoubtedly he's a good reviewer. But he is very selective in terms of reviewing smartphones. And he focuses on flagship phones mainly. I don't think he still realises that most of the people do not feel the necessity of spending that much money on a flagship phones while there are many good midrange phones out there. Apparently he doesn’t review any midrange phones either.

[@ezrapardede1921]

@@shahabasms5674 yea.. he kinda an Apple fanboy right now, even if he didn't really show with, but if he been able to review the iOS 15, he should be able to review others like OneUi and MiUI, bcz Android based is the only thing those to have in common compared to stock Android honestly

[@LiohJuney]

As someone who owns a Galaxy S20 and S21 Ultra, I always find myself gravitating more to my S20 based on size and portability alone. While I love the S21 and its more premium looks and battery, the S20 does everything it does for my usage without losing MST (which I use always on military bases that haven't upgraded payment terminals.) I can totally see why you picked the Zenphone 8 as your daily.

[@1270mothman]

Hi. Anyone having ramdump issues with this phone. Was about to get one but have noticed this complaint on the net and Asus forums.

[@victorflores9513]

Could you drop the link to that Tan Ji Ro Wallpaper?

[@moranmono]

Looks awesome 👌

[@afd1040]

honestly I love it it is like a younger and the better brother of s10e

[@sir_triangle]

Exactly! I stayed with the s10e for years because it was the only phone with a sensible size. Now that I'm finally upgrading, I'm going straight for this zenfone.

[@afd1040]

@@sir_triangle Man I wish zenfone 8 was still in Turkey

[@PecikCZ]

Sadly, Zenfone 8 is bigger :( I can't decide if go for it or rather choose used s10e.

[@PsychMan]

I'm buying this phone for the size. I have an S21 ultra specd with 16 gigs but it's nice to have a smaller phone factor when doing activities like running.

[@jagadishpechetty3966]

how many years of andriod updates and security updates can we expect

[@typing.....................]

2 years only and thats a bammer.

[@mordmartin]

Well if only Asus could keep up with updates. From previous experience, you'd be stuck with Android 11 while everyone is already on Android 13 next time. They will just keep on updating their UI instead of the entire OS.

[@chandansoren8002]

Was my concern too Though i had it in slowly On the zenfone Rog lineup is where the problem comes really

[@treebush]

Whos slower lg v60s updates sony or asus

[@mordmartin]

@@ThatRandomNova Don't be surprised if those "updates" are not in sequencial order. Just saying.

[@tjnj2256]

Trying to find a solid rugged case for the Zenfone 8. Love my bettle case for S10 and other samsung.