This was a fun video to record. Let me know if you'd like to see more videos like this in the future :)
@mazinali674 жыл бұрын
It's great!! plz do full lessons tutorial note by note of a piece
@jenniferirby87094 жыл бұрын
I would love to take lessons from you. I agree with you about muscle memory!
@larvenkarlsson4404 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more!
@larvenkarlsson4404 жыл бұрын
He do have online courses
@musicfan36094 жыл бұрын
YES PLEASE!!! :D
@FingerBibenjoyer4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this josh its just what i needed at 3 in the morning.
@CalamityInAction4 жыл бұрын
Billy Big Bollocks 10 for me
@serhanmussic Жыл бұрын
@@CalamityInAction 11 for me
@hermannisavolainen83284 жыл бұрын
You should start streaming your practicing sessions every now and then. That was super helpful.
@katelynrobillard4 жыл бұрын
That was “bad” sight reading? 😅
@aevillarreal4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't bad at all but look up a video of someone like Valentina Lisitsa sight reading and it's scary, I bet she can sight read this whole concerto almost if not perfectly
@ChanningWalton4 жыл бұрын
aevillarreal she’d have it memorised too - photographic memory
@chezbe4 жыл бұрын
@@aevillarreal Josh Wright can sead reading more faster then Lisitsa
@aevillarreal4 жыл бұрын
@@chezbe There's a video of her sight-reading a whole piano concerto, after 3 hours she was already playing it very well. Don't get me wrong Josh is an amazing pianist and he's one of my favorites but I don't know if he can sight-read as good as the elite players
@chezbe4 жыл бұрын
@@aevillarreal ok,Lisitsa not elite player, she's articulation is nothing compared with Paul Barton's and etc, she overoverrated youtube pianist, every professor of Conservatory in my country (Russia) can sead read more perfectly then she. Of course you know Sviatoslav Richter, he learn sonata in b minor for 2 days 🤔, his sead reading was incredible, like Ogdon(who sead reading opus klavesimbalisticum by Sorabji at home) or Ferenz Lizst (who doesnt stop when sead read op 10 by Chopin, when nearly stay Chopin, ahahaha, or Piano Concerto in A minor by Grieg, i dont think that, anyone can play or sead reading like Ferenz Lizst!!!)
@StatischBenutzer4 жыл бұрын
17:00 the sass in that page turn
@GhilledApallo4 жыл бұрын
My favorite concerto ever! This whole piece can express so many different ranges of emotions out of the human spirit it’s amazing
@miamayer54354 жыл бұрын
I noticed that after watching videos of your playing, my own hands and wrists feel very relaxed when I afterwards practice myself. I experieced something similar before with singing. My throat seems to reactively relax when listening to someone with great technique (e.g. young Callas, Tebaldi etc.) (and equally tense up when listening to strained singing..). Until now I just wasn't aware, that this effect seems to work for me on piano aswell. I guess I felt it very prominently with this video, since even through sight reading and practicing passages you weren't yet entirely comfortable with, you still very visibly mentained the same looseness inherent to your technique which somehow seems to help me emulate that in my own practice. Thank you very much!
@polka6784 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching this, gives me insight on how established pianist like yourself practice new pieces. Do more!
@youngjaekim5154 жыл бұрын
16:00 Use left hand for the voice under the trill. It's much easier that way.
@stefsteenvoorden90984 жыл бұрын
Yes! I'm glad to see you listened to the requests, certainly one of my dearest pieces and would definitely want to see this series continue! (I always wondered why I found this section so beautiful 14:57)
@lucasdelliosiv74934 жыл бұрын
Josh, I wish you the best of luck with this concerto!
@ja773r4 жыл бұрын
I could watch this all day..... allllllll day. Love this stuff. Thanks
@bullitosaladino4 жыл бұрын
I noticed your score is spiral bound. Does Paderewski publish that way? Or do you rebind your scores. I really like spiral bound so the book doesn’t close on you.
@DreammzShow4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he practices in a suit every day...
@danielpaul87344 жыл бұрын
You don't?
@soohyunhwang67704 жыл бұрын
@@danielpaul8734 Made my day
@gdkabsbdkwkwm41874 жыл бұрын
Ling Ling is always ready for performance
@henrikibsen62584 жыл бұрын
Dress for the job you want, not the one you have.
@nousernamewhatsoever4 жыл бұрын
@@danielpaul8734 😂
@christinachampion36764 жыл бұрын
I'm not laughing, learning from a master. Thanks for sharing Josh.
@france4me1174 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely BRILLIANT as it really apply to me directly. Tapping into the composers intensions and feeling to the music
@tammymasson23434 жыл бұрын
This was a joy to watch your process!!! Thank you!
@DiegoGonzalez-sl9nd4 жыл бұрын
Josh do the same with the concerto complete!!
@loobygraham2 жыл бұрын
"I don't know why my brain wants to go that A sharp," this is my brain for everything I play most days.
@jeffhollon12554 жыл бұрын
So love this! So interesting! Thank you so very much. Listening to what you are thinking with the practice is so very exciting. Thanks to KZbin also. Never could novices be able to see into the world of such an excellent concert pianist. Thank you Josh so very much.
@paulpurpura1914 жыл бұрын
Great video Josh! The real take away of watching the vid was have fun when things aren’t the way you would like, rather than to get frustrated. I am going work at that during my practice sessions.l
@fortepian3384 жыл бұрын
Vert good video! I graduat my music university, and this kind of videos is very good for self-motivation and to look how other musicians practice
@PunchbuggyBlue4 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, it's fun to see your process. Can you explain how you think and play in the key signature while reading accidentals. do you have a video about this?
@SkaterJay7894 жыл бұрын
more of this, its great insight to see how pros handle practicing. I got a lot of new ways to approach my next practice session.
@adelejkruger24154 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know why you are not noting anything...?
@SinanAkkoyun4 жыл бұрын
I love you! I am watching your tutorials since I was 12 and am still watching! Would you please do an update on op 10 no 2? I am trying to play it but I have big speed and simultaneously loosening issues
@frankmazzola27114 жыл бұрын
Wow Josh this is awesome since I am currently working on this movement. I sent a VIP request a week or 2 ago on a small part of it. I hope you continue to post on this amazing piece as you work on it!
@larvenkarlsson4404 жыл бұрын
Lol 30pages in one day... And that's your start XD
@domodepiano4 жыл бұрын
That's pretty standard once you work up to practicing 40 hours a day
@kotu_pnd44 жыл бұрын
@@domodepiano I'm stuck at 24 hours. Any tips for getting past that 24 mark wall?
@Mickieotheros4 жыл бұрын
Nucle4rP4nd4 try to get ling ling insurance and then you’ll be able to practice for 40 hours a day
@czeynerpianistproducercomp71554 жыл бұрын
if you think that's impressive let me tell you that Francesco Libetta read 25 etudes of Czerny's 740 in one day
@czeynerpianistproducercomp71554 жыл бұрын
and Fumecri Himecri is playing the 25 etudes of Czerny's 756, the 27 of Chopin and the 24 etudes of Op.200 by Charles Mayer at the same time
@sheana20054 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, I really love your videos and tips on practicing, etc. Do you think you could do a video on the Mendolssohn piano concerto in g minor? I have a real problem with the 3rd movement as I find it hard to articulate and play the right hand....my hand gets cramped. I've seen really young people do this, and I don't understand my problem, as I have a fairly advanced technique. It would really be great if I could conquer this problem.
@jdiwkall4 жыл бұрын
would love to see some demonstrations of rare repertoire such as the works of Blumenfeld, Kosenko, Bortkiewicz, Polovinkin, Sabaneyev, Lyadov
@adelejkruger24154 жыл бұрын
I gave you a thumbs-up because as a former student I think this is SO valuable and many will be able to gain confidence simply by seeing that it's not all THERE from the first moment! :-) Many small subtleties that come through... I think the aspiring student will be enriched. It is interesting to see someone else's process. (I tend to look for chord structures first when learning new pieces...) ;-)
@yanikucho4 жыл бұрын
loved it. You should definitely post videos of your practices like this :D
@leona75224 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyable seeing your process. Thanks!
@j.milleraabamsc94004 жыл бұрын
To answer the questions you're asking yourself, Josh, the subconscious realization of video taping and concept of playing something fairly novel would be hindering. Don't sweat it; this was terrific! : )
@R.Williams4 жыл бұрын
I love this piece so much...i was suppose to be repairing the computer and used your video as a sound check and i couldn't leave! I have the score for this but some of it is too difficult. I'll just keep plugging away. I appreciate your videos so much! Its taken me 3 years to learn Beethoven's Pathetique and it still needs work but i find going back to the pieces that were once unthinkable are now reasonable. Thanks Josh! And more videos like these would be great!
@humblehotpockets14604 жыл бұрын
For me I would go at it at a slow pace then increase the pace after mastering the rhythm. Maybe because I’m a beginner because it seems to me that my friends and you are all playing very close to the songs intended pace at the start
@lindaunger42334 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable and interesting to watch and listen. I really like the way you practice.
@christopherperaskevas26054 жыл бұрын
Love your videos been watching them for years!
@hansongnaily4 жыл бұрын
Wow it was nice to hear the harmony at a slow pace
@czeynerpianistproducercomp71554 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video with tips for Czerny Op.756 etude 3, 9, 10 or 14?
@pearltheplug4 жыл бұрын
GREAT format. Looking forward to watch it about other pieces
@RJL512944 жыл бұрын
Great video Josh ... many thanks! You mention your admiration for other performers' recordings of the Chopin concerto - have you heard the Dinu Lipatti version (with the Zurich Tonhalle orchestra under Otto Ackermann)? Lipatti, to me, is untouchable!! :-)
@monugupta324 жыл бұрын
The feeling when he says terrible & you in your head is like, daymn. !
@JaySuryavanshiMusic4 жыл бұрын
Come on! 30 pages is a lot. Josh is awesome! 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
@SwahaChris4 жыл бұрын
I am working on Chopin's Concerto no2 1st movement.. I would be grateful if you could share some tips about it any soon..
@-Carlisle-4 жыл бұрын
Do you not mark in your music? Mine would have so many fingerings on it by now haha
@philippedeschenes4704 жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh, this is a brillant way to share how to address a large piece. Quick question: would you favor practicing passages loud and ´to the bottom' of the keyboard first, or respect the dynamics at the early stages of learning a piece?
@sindeeepmyangel4 жыл бұрын
Philippe Deschenes From what I remember, he answered this question in another video and mentioned to respect dynamics from the start
@afihaileywibowo10954 жыл бұрын
Josh, please practice Chopin Concerto No. 2, 2nd movement Larghetto🙏
@captivator134 жыл бұрын
Many thanks bro for this video, this really is an awesome piece, I used to listen to Arthur Rubinstein playing it,,, Appreciate how U took us thru this, guiding us with key/finger nos. We love U bro Josh Sam 🎵✌🏻
@cynthiagunkle78344 жыл бұрын
Your piano is so beautiful.
@_trismegistus4 жыл бұрын
2:05 "sorry" -- why apologize? No need to be insecure about your playing anymore, I think...!
@Entertainer1144 жыл бұрын
joeyisfunny I was taught that whenever you mess up in a piece, you say “sorry” to the composer. My teacher would always instinctively say it if he ever flubbed a note. I think it’s cool.
@Peter-tz6rx4 жыл бұрын
Loved your video...Hope you show more days of practicing this concerto.
@drkz4ck4 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh. I've noticed for a while now that I struggle with new pieces because of the ammount of time I spend on reading it. Just getting the notes right takes a lot of effort for me, specially putting hands together. Then, there's all the work of getting up to tempo and improving it's musicality, but by this time I'm already exhausted from the previous task. What advice can you share about improving on this particular department? Great video. Liked as always!
@jrodriguezpiano4 жыл бұрын
Practice sight reading.
@yosua04 жыл бұрын
And like he said hear as many recordings of it as you can beforehand and while learning a new piece
@yosua04 жыл бұрын
This will help you especially with the musicality part
@dylandecker_music4 жыл бұрын
It's just the more you do it. To get better at reading you have to do more and more reading. It's the same with playing by ear. It will come with practice.
@domodepiano4 жыл бұрын
If the reading is so slow or you need to take apart the parts so much that the pace is unreasonably slow you may wants to back off a bit and spend some time on slightly less challenging works , i remember years ago I tried working some Kapustin before I was ready or accustomed to the idiom and writing but it wasn't until I backed off , decided to work on David Amram piano sonata and some smaller jazz transcriptions in order to get better at processing all the accidentals , that when I finally came back to him , though still a challenge if was no longer insurmountable, I had the tools to work through the before seemed impossible music Also you'll best to begin working to make hands separate and targeted tool to working out a difficult small section for a little bit but you'll want to be learning hands together earlier or most of the time since the Learning tends to be less efficient to learn one hand then the other , then out together and learn it all again together ...it's just extra work w little extra reward for all the effort , don't give up
@ScarfyTheGamer04 жыл бұрын
More sessions like these !
@emilianokandico-duoporlavi34734 жыл бұрын
Great job Josh!!!! Thanks!
@jeremyweasley80794 жыл бұрын
omg, that's the piece which was played during Chopin Piano Competition 2000 by Yundi Li
@tiagosilva91524 жыл бұрын
In the final stage of all Chopin Piano Competitions the finalists have to play one of Chopin's concerts (number 1 or number 2)
@lucassnow43554 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I really love your tecnique. ¿How can I truely improve mine? ¿With Hanon exercises or What? I've been playing for a few years but I want to have The best tecnique I can get. Regards!!!
@thomasmartin60464 жыл бұрын
What's up with all of the velvet?
@euphorazine4 жыл бұрын
22:05 right on
@MsPea3 жыл бұрын
He said he was going to practice this piece anyway and so he decided to film it. My question is, did he put on suit on just to practice or does he sit around his house all day in a suit? Shows how my mind wanders when I should be practicing.
@mintchoco56404 жыл бұрын
Doesn't muscle memory happen naturally as you play a piece more?
@davidseagalmusic4 жыл бұрын
Josh, who is the publisher of your book you are using with the spiral bound? Thanks!
@gretareinarsson74614 жыл бұрын
I´m a little suspicious about listening to recordings of pieces before you start practising them. I think in most cases anyone who seriously practises classical music will know, or have heard, most of the best known pieces both for the instrument of choice as well as in general. I think it´s more important to practice a piece from scratch without having another performers playing in mind. Unless one has a doubt about how to play a part of a piece or one doesn´t have an idea in what direction the piece is going, I think it´s better to avoid listening to a recording until later in the practising process, when the piece is already “in the fingers.” When an interpretation starts forming it can be good to compare ones own thoughts to that of other performers. The danger of listening too much to recordings before and in the early part of practising a piece is that it can sit in ones mind and interfear with ones own approach and final interpretation. Any thoughts?
@davisginn12984 жыл бұрын
I personally go with the mindset of: why reinvent the wheel when there are a dozen types of wheels out there already? I think you can listen to all of them, gain a strong base of knowledge for the different interpretations, save a lot of time in the early stages of learning the piece by already having the various sounds and interpretations in your head, then innovate the wheel by viewing all of the versions, create a conglomerate of them, then add in and experiment with personal changes based not on what you have heard, but your soul wants to hear, a bunch of consistent practice and listening to recordings of yourself and tweaking from there, then bam! From my experience, I've found it to be a very time efficient, emotionally and creatively honest method that gives you more knowledge about interpretation in general and the styles and personalities of those who have performed it before. I know it's different for everybody, and I'd love hear what you like to do!
@gretareinarsson74614 жыл бұрын
@@davisginn1298 Thank you for your answer. My approach is more the one of discovering without having much information. For example I avoid reading about an art exhibition before I go and see it. Then I compare my thoughts about it with the available information about it. Same applies to music; my general approach is to avoid listening to a piece I´m practising until late in the process. I usually play a piece through several times before I start practising it simply to get the general feel of it; what kind of a piece is it, what are the technical difficulties of it, what is the structure etc. However if I run into problems with it I turn to an available recording. I prefer to let a piece slowly unravel it self and that way to explore the different layers, if there are, and different approaches to playing it. That means taking a pause away from it and coming back to it later and see how it has grown in my mind and very often there are fresh new insights and approaches that turn up. This way the exploration of a piece is void of external infuenses and my mind is free and open to it. But of course there are pieces that simply play them selfes, so to speak and there are pieces that need different apporach and then of course there are the pieces that one knows already etc. For me every piece is unique and may call for it´s own approach. I don´t have a “one rool fits all” approach. For me your approach is a mit cacophonic (?) where I guess my approach is more time consuming.
@aroshrathnayake31054 жыл бұрын
No one can beat Pletnev, was in love with his Nutcracker. Does anyone know the piece the intro excerpt from?
@colbymiller44434 жыл бұрын
I think it's Etude No. 6 by Paganini/Liszt
@tedfeds19814 жыл бұрын
how did you mic the piano? are you just using the 1 C414?
@TommysPianoCorner4 жыл бұрын
Very insightful - thanks.
@michaelkensington24944 жыл бұрын
Is this the concerto where the piano part doesn't start for like forever?
@StefanGraz4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there are 138 bars of orchestral introduction before the solo starts
@leonardmartin60484 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Also checked out your liszt liebestraum, but what I found quite strange is that it seems to miss some parts. You said, that you would talk about some passages and you don't in the video. It feels kinda unfinished :(
@fergusbyett80884 жыл бұрын
Are you learning this for a performance, Josh? Sounds great :) very inspiring
@wearashirt4 жыл бұрын
What do you think would Chopin comment in this video?
@LazlosPlane4 жыл бұрын
Rubinstein blows them all away.
@glenngouldification4 жыл бұрын
LazlosPlane Rubinstein was totally natural and unforced. Really appreciate that these days !
@bitdall4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for day 2!! Haha
@revivalofthefittestonlythe27574 жыл бұрын
Unashamed trifinov fanboy, great taste!
@grrrrrgh4 жыл бұрын
I play classical guitar but this is useful and applicable to my practicing
@cristianpiano21704 жыл бұрын
What’s a good edition of this piece? And how do you get those spiral bound books? I hate books that don’t stay open -.-
@domodepiano4 жыл бұрын
You can take just about any standard bound volume and go to Staples or FedEx or UPS store and they'll dismantle and rebind w spiral . Not sure what he is using but for the concertos in general not just Chopin l , I've in the past liked Peters, universal edition , and although out of print , vintage MCA are good too. Henle is expensive but sewn binding and very easy too read so they wear and age well I would shy away from Kalmus, WB, etc they're ok to compare to your main but usually not the best choice as study hard copy score
@silkepianist4 жыл бұрын
Cris Piano urtext
@kaliyakalcheva64664 жыл бұрын
He mentioned he is using the Paderewski for this concerto
@bencollins59374 жыл бұрын
@@domodepiano I never knew that, that's a great tip.
@aaronestrera22414 жыл бұрын
My problem is that i can’t focus on practicing. I always feel sleepy after 30 minutes idk why
@bypig4 жыл бұрын
bruh 30 minutes, i can only do 10
@aaronestrera22414 жыл бұрын
Bypig same, depends on the day lol
@loztheviolinist4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried splitting up your practice into manageable segments? I do around two hours of practice spread over a period of four hours. The first and second segment of my practice I split into groups of 15 minutes. The first 30 minutes I focus on relative scales (C Major & A Minor), and I spend around 15 minutes working on those two scales. The second 30 minutes I focus on tone and technique development, and I pick two exercises to focus for 15 minutes. For the last two 30 minutes segments I spend 30 minutes working on each of my chosen pieces. Your more than welcome to try this method to see if it will help you with your practice, and you can always build up to your desired amount of practice time. This is my chosen method of practice for over just over two years, and it’s worked wonders for getting myself into a routine. Practicing little and often could also help you get into a routine. Good luck with everything xx
@aaronestrera22414 жыл бұрын
Blue Diamonds Forever yeah i usually just work on my pieces though lol
@jeffhollon12554 жыл бұрын
aaron estrera glad you asked that.
@gjeacocke4 жыл бұрын
Sightreading does not have to be perfect for love is not perfect that ppl boast of having. Sightreading aims to introduce ppl to neglected pieces that they then after hearing a sightreader will then choose to play the piece. Franz schubert was not a great piano player but a great composer. Ppl downplay other roles of a musicians function. Being bad at something can mean help in other areas.
@_Renaissance_Man4 жыл бұрын
Your hands are huge!
@AtelierM_mao4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the amazing video! I am currently working on the first moment for an audition. It's an very satisfying piece to study. I feel that Trifinov's interpretation from the album "Chopin Evocation" is closer to the score and easier to learn after. But to be honest Zimerman's version with Polish Festival Orchestra sounds stunning. The phrasing and dynamics are so pleasing to listen to.
@AtelierM_mao4 жыл бұрын
And those two choose very different approaches at the trilling section that you mentioned. There are so many possibilities in the line and the balance between hands.
@k-intefleush49344 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this instead of practicing.
@hugod3274 жыл бұрын
My favorite version is played by Lipatti :D
@goldenboy8864 жыл бұрын
Lovely.
@ThePianoFortePlayer4 жыл бұрын
did you purposely time this just as the Chopin International Competition announced the preliminary participants, haha. Thanks for sharing this.
@MikeJones-dd5wj4 жыл бұрын
I’m the brain dead muscle memory type, and I’m not proud of it.
@nicb45894 жыл бұрын
Try and memorize a phrase before you play it. Memorize it without touching the piano and then play it however fast you need. Just trust me. You will feel like you have so much more control over what you’re playing
@alexmalex17784 жыл бұрын
Do you wear a suit every time you play piano
@MegaPicklelover12344 жыл бұрын
THE CHROMATICS
@Daniel_Zalman3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a Tiffany Poon video........oy!
@hsfpiano19894 жыл бұрын
Time to tune the piano.
@Hustler675734 жыл бұрын
who loves Evgeny Kissin recording
@Miksu__4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I listened to that, before I found Zimmerman's recording. Zimmerman's is perfect imo
@Hustler675734 жыл бұрын
@@Miksu__ can't agree more
@agamaz56504 жыл бұрын
lol I love how older music actually sounds like music
@agamaz56504 жыл бұрын
@@all1964 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zpmun3l8ost1a9U
@3rdP4rty4 жыл бұрын
I barely hear you without headset, sir. I have been experiencing that issue since i subscribed. is it only me? I have no problem with other videos. You may try to increase volume level of your voice. Thanks!
@throughmyeyesx4 жыл бұрын
I dont have that problem.
@rl93794 жыл бұрын
After this video, I now hate A sharp lol
@mcrettable4 жыл бұрын
you don't need to keep saying you haven't worked on a part haha. i think we're all pretty mature not to judge
@larssmeets7734 жыл бұрын
he didnt keep saying it only at the start a little>?
@hornet2244 жыл бұрын
Do you think that it is really possible that Chopin, a genius but still a mere mortal, can be responsible for creating this piece?
@batboy50234 жыл бұрын
what?
@willbarber74444 жыл бұрын
No way you’ve never learned this before. You participated in the preliminarys of the 2015 chopin competition and your telling me you didn’t have this piece ready?
@bw20824 жыл бұрын
Will Barber maybe he chose the f minor
@ultimatewick4 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't expect a narcissist and internet marketer to be honest with you.
@kmpiano14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info since I really thought the playing was incredible for sight reading/practice 😅
@ytyt39224 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of Martha Argerich’s performance of this concerto. She tries to turn Chopin into Rachmaninoff. Otherwise I idolize her talent, but I find her Chopin to be a bit “off”.
@jrodriguezpiano4 жыл бұрын
This is extremely quiet. Noise cancelling headphones on, and I can barely hear it.
@voidninja6164 жыл бұрын
I have no problems with the volume at all, check your headphones.
@adelejkruger24154 жыл бұрын
I agree, compared to all the other youtube videos I have been watching this is a bit too soft...
@itseduardoorozco4 жыл бұрын
muscle memory?? muscles don't have memory.. Memory is stored in the brain... the muscles move because of habits memorized in the brain.
@Kevincentius4 жыл бұрын
muscle memory is the English term for it anyway
@itseduardoorozco4 жыл бұрын
@@Kevincentius according to? in which dictionary?
@Kevincentius4 жыл бұрын
@@itseduardoorozco 0.o google it. But either way it doesn't hurt to learn the term right