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Energy recycling. 12v battery charging 18v battery. How to use an LED breakover voltage to create a reservoir of higher voltage for charging batteries.

[@rogerd4559]

what keeps the battery charging circuit from overcharging the 16 volt batteries above their voltage? trying to charge them to 120 volts?

[@emichael06]

would it make a difference if the ferrite rod was made with multiple ferrite discs stacked to 8"?

[@ionizationx]

Hi arkiver, do you have a video of Herman Andersons water cell?

[@tubeDude48]

How many turns on the bucking coil?

[@edgarw5919]

The Brush motor in series with the LED will read the EMF return from the motor. ???

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

Hi! That's a tricky question.😀 If the motor is under load volts start vanishing at the motor but current increase. If power in is interupted you get inertia return. My governor video utilizes that technique.

[@boblewis5558]

Current flow goes back to the early electrical research most notably by Michael Faraday. He considered current to be the flow of positive charge and created the whole concept of current as a kind of fluid. Years later we understood that current was actually the flow of electrons, by which time however there were MANY concepts explained by "conventional" current or positive flow hence the convention stuck (as it makes zero practical difference, only a physical difference in the detail) and as explained by others ALL the symbology used in electronics is based upon "conventional" current flow i.e. positive current flowing from anode to cathode in a circuit. It is confusing in the extreme to change this convention since every electrical and electronic engineer on the planet knows it the "conventional" way

[@hommerdalor6301]

Hello. I find it’s nice to use the electronic curent instead of conventional absurdity, Imaginating valves is great.

[@boblewis5558]

@@hommerdalor6301 except that if you describe circuits that way you are going diametrically opposed to 200 plus years of the way everybody is taught and will just cause total confusion. Besides, if you are going to be pedantic about these things, current (electrons OR positive charges) don't "flow" in a circuit anyway

[@hommerdalor6301]

@@boblewis5558 Hi Bob. So when I learned electricity, it was going on for 160 years. :-) Anyways, I’m used to read the circuits in both directions, but we must admit that it would have been logical to do it the right way as soon as the mistake was discoverd, because more people will have to learn electricity than the ones who where told before, especialy in the time of the pioneers. Sometimes they thaught the earth was flat, or in the middle of the universe, than they saw it was a mistake, and they changed to fit the reality even if beautifull planetarium were made. At the end seeing the diodes as valves for ease of memorisation, to follow the real path of electrons is not so bad, even more for someone self learning, like the pioneers. It’s the case of our self learning friend here, doing a working circuit that many electricians would not do. Cheers.

[@boblewis5558]

@@hommerdalor6301 well, since the electron wasn't discovered until just 4 years before the start of the 20th century and Sir Michael Faraday's work was roughly a century previous it's a moot point about changing something a century old and embedded in literally HUNDREDS of academic papers and more to the point, apart from a minor detail just WORKS. If we were to change everything now then literally EVERY single schematic with even a single diode or transistor or triac or thyristor or ANY other symbol including the triangle denoting "conventional" current, would need to be redrawn AND the WHOLE of electronics literature would have to be reprinted or burnt in a big bonfire ... Think Nazi Germany. Just because 100 years AFTER Faraday and his predecessors we finally twigged - kind of - that a) an electron was a thing as an entity in its own right does NOT require such action OR a rethink about how we treat the subject of current in a circuit. This is most definitely a case of maintaing the status quo. Anyone who DOESN'T understand WHY we use what we do is lacking in a simple explanation of just one sentence. If they need to understand more, they should be told to do some basic historical research ... It should then be obvious. Your analogy between the earth being flat and conventional current as a globe earth model works, whereas a flat earth model FAILS. The same is NOT true for the current model we use ... It works BOTH ways since positive charge is just the inverse (literally) or complementary to electrons. Round Earth c.f. a flat Earth propositions are diametrically opposite, not complementary. A simple statement about the latter empirically as well as mathematical PROVES the earth is round since it is IMPOSSIBLE to travel on a flat surface, make just TWO 90° turns in the same rotation (cw or ccw) and return to your starting point (standard spherical geometry known and used for THOUSANDS of years).

[@hommerdalor6301]

@@boblewis5558 Nice explanation, maybe you should make YT videos with your knowledge. Cheers

[@rogerd4559]

you measure the current through the led and the voltage accross it multply the current by the voltage will give you the wattage

[@morpher44]

meter readings won't be correct because of the AC RMS on the line.

[@hydniq3327]

you think the battery is making the circuit oscillate?

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

A battery or power supply with caps become part of the circuit and oscillate in connection with the inertia of the magnetic field. I'm not sure how much they oscillate.

[@rogerd4559]

wait... I was taught by Devry that current flow was from positive to negative, but Electron flow was from Negative to positive

[@thereynolds2725]

It's true that electrons flow from negative to positive, but in electronics it is just simpler to use conventional current flow. All the symbols are pointed that way and nearly all the reference material is written that way.

[@elektroatze7068]

very efficent ;) lg

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

Cheers :)

[@hydniq3327]

at 7:50 your circuit goes into self oscillation you should do some tests with that.

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

Thanks. Nice find. It's a dual LC circuit with the open secondary helping support the self oscillation. The source battery oscillates like the cap of an LC. Working on a video.

[@hydniq3327]

i enjoyed watching your video again

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

Thanks :)

[@hydniq3327]

@@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy your not doing videos anymore. share what your working on

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

Just before my last video I realized I got some unusual high tech visitors. Some are among us here. Been a difficult year.

[@hydniq3327]

i'm sorry to here it's been a difficult year.i wish you all the best for the coming year

[@electronicdiy3738]

You should a It seems the circuit requires improving by adjusting the trigger current of the transistor because it only uses the 72 turns coil resistance that could be not enough limiting base current , since the TIP 3055 is a power transistor it will amplify small base current to important collector current and the electrical power Ic*Vce converts into undesirable heat power...

[@ekeretteekpo3004]

What is happening here?

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

Increasing voltage while storing current flow.

[@johnlozada8623]

THX

[@aussienature2360]

watch on x2 speed and it's almost a normal speed video. lol

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

Autodidacticism ok?

[@aussienature2360]

@@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy Yes self-learning at an incredibly slow speed. It's okay I played it at x2 speed

[@jonbigman9723]

It gets it's efficiency from the bifilar method or interposing windings. When the pulse goes through the primary it doesn't have a restriction and the voltage only gets a boost and does little to reduce the initial current. By interposing the secondary between the winds of the primary you create an inductive diode. The diode is based upon the same voltage levels differences of the material itself. The secondary should not have a huge impact like in an ordinary transformer. You want this control to be all potential so the losses are meaningless. This is why they use a toroid core to lock away the magnetic field. The transforming happens in the interposing polarities of the bifilar wind. Regular gauge rules apply. Higher voltages need less gauge and higher currents need bigger gauges. More mass in the higher current section means higher magnetic fields in the toroid. So core balancing to the expected current output needs to be calculated. Any leakage or core saturation would only increase the output due to the secondary being around the core partially. A sort of self containment but only so up to a degree. Stressing matter in such ways can be very, well stressful.

[@sailingcapedissappointment2012]

Hmm .. 🤔 I read somewhere that LEDs are actually field effect transformers .... and that nag's at me for some reason ..

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

Hi! Many ways of looking at components.🤯

[@sailingcapedissappointment2012]

@@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy I wish I could remember where I saw that

[@sailingcapedissappointment2012]

@@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy also there was a reason the early autos were all positive ground until around 1957 but on a side note I just set up a joule thief to run off two button cells that are putting out 2.8v DC and I'm reading 5v AC with it .

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

Most of the joule thiefs have asymmetric currents. The asymmetry can alter 0 base line measurements in their vicinity.

[@bjl1000]

it will work better if you wind the coils on top of each other and remove the diodes and capacitor.

[@tonyrebeiro]

You're confusing current flow & electron flow. Current flows opposite to electron flow.

[@johnlozada8623]

please secundary coil... how many turns?

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

+john lozada I marked the center of the rod and wound a single layer to each end. Don't know how many turns it was.

[@johnlozada8623]

Thx

[@thuthamgia8432]

Why you do it. It not like overunity . COP < 1

[@Dennis-mq6or]

You are comparing RMS power to PEAK power.

[@dechachumpol6622]

Energy ai.ai.

[@devinmccloud]

I disagree completely. Current flows in both directions. One can not move without the other. Ed Leedskalnin.

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

Good. Me too! 😎

[@Electrical_Science]

of course they flow in opposite pairs, the matter is the difference betwenn the two, which has to exist. This distinction has to exist unles we were not see for example the diode effect, the shape of the field and etc. There are two currents, the magnetic and the dielectric current, both in Amps but not in the same spatial dimension.

[@josefkoller9803]

Much sleepy blabla !

[@ArkiverUnifiedEnergy]

NEXT! 🤪