The legacy of the Troubles still lingering over Northern Ireland

While the overt violence and conflict associated with the Troubles may have subsided since the Good Friday Agreement, it is true that many people in Northern Ireland continue to be affected by the legacy of the conflict. This includes individuals who were directly impacted by the violence, as well as those who continue to struggle with the social, economic, and political consequences of the conflict. While the actual violence and conflict may have ended, the legacy of the Troubles still lingers on in Northern Ireland; many are still struggling to come to terms with what happened and find a way to move forward.
Through this lens, the film highlights the fact that the effects of conflict can last for generations, and that the healing process can be a long and difficult journey. By showcasing the lived reality of this legacy, the film helps to bring attention to the ongoing struggles and challenges faced by people in Northern Ireland, and can help to foster greater understanding and empathy among viewers.
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[@garthmcguigan2357]

I was born and raised in Belfast during "The Troubles". I left Belfast because of The Troubles and lived in USA and several countries in Asia to get away from it. I came back and realized that I loved the place, I am proud to call it my home and I am happy that my kids are growing up here. Northern Ireland has the best human beings in the world residing there, from both sides of the divide. I would love to see the day that we realise that there is more that connects us than divides us, and that our grievances are far smaller than the goal of peace. I don't expect to see it in my lifetime, but God, what a day it would be

[@martinvegas1327]

I'm on it my friend👍

[@angusmeigh5141]

Sectarianiam was not just limited to Northern Ireland. It was common in many mainland British cities that had large Irish immigrant populations such as Glasgow, Middlesborough, Birmingham, London and Liverpool.

[@martinvegas1327]

@@angusmeigh5141 😎👍

[@martinvegas1327]

@@angusmeigh5141 Middlesbrough👍

[@mrwizard7369]

🙏

[@brianirvine1339]

I left N Ireland in 81 because i feared my children's future . I have missed my homeland ever since. Australia is a good country but i just dont feel the love that i have for home Molly

[@amysands8925]

Lived in Australia for over 30 years. Home sick for most of that time. Came home in 2009 and wouldnt live anywhere else. Home is Home. No matter what country you go to you always feel a foreigner anyway not everyone agrees but that how I felt. Just glad to be home.

[@AnthonyMonaghan]

I feel your pain brother. I left in 1994 and haven't been back since. I have lived in New Zealand for over twenty years. Home is and always will be Belfast, and as I grow older I get more and more homesick. I will return once my children are grown. I'd like to grow old 'back home' regardless of the political situation. Peace my friend.

[@myamdane6895]

Out of curiosity where in Australia are you? I know in Penrith there's a lot of Irish, at least in New South Wales

[@AnthonyMonaghan]

@@myamdane6895 I live in Dunedin in New Zealand.

[@eagleclaw1179]

Why didn’t you stay and fight for your country?

[@jerimow8400]

Thank you so much for opening my eyes to this struggle. ❤❤

[@TheCatholicSoldier]

*To Whom It May Concern* I hold my head in shame for I am an ex-Brit and I would like to take the time to apologize for baring arms in your Country during December 1987 - April 1988. I was based at Fort Whiterock, Springfield Road, Turflodge, to this day I remember so many terrible incidents will remain with me forever. The Riots in Turflodge before and after The Gibraltar 3 were being returned home, dealing with the aftermath of the two Signalers who drove onto the funeral presession, finding a man who had just been knee-capped on The Andersonstown Road. Known now about the betrayal of The British Government and all the lies and cover up's that happened during my time and all the collusions with The RUC and The British Government with regards to The Funerals and all the drama's that went along with them sicken me. May All Concerned Who Lost Their lives During The Troubles Rest In Peace, Amen.

[@ATLmodK]

I disagree that the Good Friday agreement was seen as a magical fix all. I think most saw it as an agreement that left each side wanting more, but the best thing that had happened in 30 years in that there was peace.

[@Oldsoho]

Blair gave in to Terrorism. The message the world got was "Terrorism Works". This is reason there is a terrorism problem in the world today. History is the judge.

[@jackietreehorn5561]

​@@Oldsohoand Blair participated in terrorism with the western allies in the illegal invasion of Iraq

[@eddieburris675]

Left each side wanting more? I guess that’s a true statement if you take it at face value. Yes both sides wanted more, fact. That’s not what you mean, you alluded to equality which is 100% wrong. The agreement was is no way equal or right. British got the way better end of THEIR deal. Never have a seen a group of people do something everyone in the world knows is wrong even themselves I mean you Brit’s won’t even put it in your history books/classes 😂 invade our island, treat us lower than cattle (literally, if you know about the “British cows” during the famine,you know) kill our ppl then turn around say y’all are the victims 😢 PLEASE

[@raymondgoldie6162]

Not really Catholic and Protestant. It was Unionist and republican.

[@RobertK1993]

Ulster Unionists Protestants challenged Irish Roman Catholic Irish Republican's to sectarian conflict and lose constantly is the true story the media covers up

[@ltwlof4967]

there needs to be a process where the victims find out the truth they desperately need to heal and the perpetrators get punished for the hurt they created. but this needs to happen by north Ireland people for the people

[@123YMR]

The perpetrators were the British government, the native Irish population were beaten into submission and treated as second class citizens in NI, after the imposed partition of Ireland in 1921 by Britain, the troubles started after the British government crushed them after they tried a civil rights movement to get equal rights to the planted British population, it took 30 years of fighting for them to get equal rights, the British government fought them every step.

[@louise_rose]

Looking at this from outside the British isles (I'm from Sweden, and old enough to remember when Northern Ireland was steadily in the news), it's kinda hard to feel any sympathy for the PIRA. Yes, if course Ireland had been wronged by the British and I do realize that some of the protestants in Ulster were determined to keep up a kind of colonial order - but the PIRA was steadily targeting civilians and keeping up a reign of terror even among their own. To most outsiders they looked no better or more just than the Baader-;Meinhof gang, perhaps even worse (BM after all attacked mostly politicians and people they felt represented continuity between the 3rd R and West Germany, while the PIRA bombed schools and pubs and claimed that they morally represented all of Ireland!) and thereby just breeding moe hate, pain and anger. It was a very difficult age.

[@harrywhite9030]

It's really not that simple. If it was, this would have been resolved decades ago.

[@melissabyrne8749]

Thanks for sharing

[@rmf9567]

I don’t think that’s what the channel is trying to do but you are right that the west is doing pretty good compared to the rest of the world. That is just a fact.

[@joehirschegger7723]

I visited Belfast in August 2023 and we took the Black cab tour on recommendation of many. It was such an eye-opening experience. In the end, I think, it's the government that needs to step up and address all the dirtiness, whether they are complicit or not. Even today, there is no Irish government because of the unwillingness of current politicians to see past their own interests. I wish the people of Ireland get what they deserve...an everlasting peace and justice.

[@donmonaghan3509]

It is sick to Glorify murder ..

[@PS-ru2ov]

Northern Ireland not part of Ireland(Republic of Ireland) it is part of the United Kingdom

[@johnpaulmartinherron]

​@@PS-ru2ovThere is no need for that sort of talk. Of course N.Ireland is part of the island of Ireland. Yes, it's not part of the Republic, but that's simply a political reality. At some point a majority may well it finally bury the hatchet of division in Ireland and vote to reunite the island as it once was ..

[@RenegadeShepTheSpacer]

Reunification needs to happen. Brexit has been a disaster, the DUP won't even form a government and the rest of the UK isn't interested in keeping ahold of NI because we just cost them money. Time for Ireland to be free once again.

[@TheNoSuchThingPodcast]

It’s not as simple as that. The Protestant community needs to agree to this which they aren’t ready to do yet. I grew up as a Catholic during the troubles. This will take probably another 20-30 years. Otherwise there could be a return to violence on the Protestant side. So I think what we need is time and not to rush this. There is equality now and Catholics have a voice which is huge. Let’s Northern Ireland heal before any talk of reunification. There is too much trauma still there

[@geoffwhite7535]

trust sinner fein, your a joke

[@noodlyappendage6729]

Reunification needs to happen. The 26 counties should rejoin the UK. Brexit is going well. The UK is now a part of the largest trade bloc in the world while at the same time has a free trade deal with the EU. CANZUK is also on the cards.

[@munsteerarla6585]

​@@noodlyappendage6729Unification I agree with. We storm London and we name it Derrylondon🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

@@noodlyappendage6729 one Ireland one island Erin go bragh 🇮🇪💯

[@Andrew-lp6sl]

There exists a great quote in film "this war will be fought amongst us" I think of that when watching reading about all that happened.

[@brodequin8261]

The people deserve better than this, ultimately its up to the people themselves without looking to London or Dublin for answers. Anyway i wish them well.

[@kateemma22]

I visited Belfast in 2018 and as an Australian it was pretty easy to talk openly to people of both sides about what has and hasn't changed in the 20 years since the GFA. Unfortunately for too many, especially in the suburbs around Falls and Shankill, the Troubles haven't ended and they still vehemently HATE the other side. I do believe the fact that so many have never been held accountable for their actions is part of it.

[@HappyButtHole]

Very Interesting Topic!

[@loneprimate]

Frankly, I think dragging it all out from 30, 40 years ago and putting everybody on all sides through it and dividing people again and mucking up all the secularism is THE DUMBEST THING YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO after a generation and a half of relative peace but still very little coming together as a single people. Absolutely the worst idea.

[@MiloManning05]

Not to do with religion

[@tuforu4]

Ian BIBLE PAISLEY STIRRED it up for no ones good.

[@iwazhere7077]

That's the point of the (propaganda) video.

[@jackietreehorn5561]

​@@iwazhere7077the video is made by Australian media...hardly propaganda...journeyman is based there if I'm correct

[@hugmc]

Have faith little people off Ireland it’s a thousand times better than it used too be 👍

[@chrisrooney8820]

TF you calling little

[@hugmc]

@@chrisrooney8820 well I am 6,3 and live in Ireland and I am Irish ☘️ what does TF stand for?

[@chrisrooney8820]

@@hugmc I'm Irish too granted, I'm 5'10 smedium level

[@patrickodonnell9770]

Are you ok 😂

[@donmonaghan3509]

What an Arse .... condone murder .. .... Never glorify murder ..

[@pfdrtom]

So, Amy Rafferty has a picture of Castro and Stalin on her wall? Maybe it's just art for arts sake but a picture can be worth a thousand words.

[@jackietreehorn5561]

Maybe owns a barbershop, picture of stylish beards and moustaches

[@Shoestring111]

'Activists' 🙄

[@annmcneill5559]

The young people are the way forward , they haven't grown up with the terrible violence that we older people have , they can see the bigger picture and are much more tolerant for that, all sides need to admit what happened was wrong and victims and their families need justice now so we can draw a line under the past and move forward together .

[@tuforu4]

The atrocious on both side were appaling. Psychosis there would kill their brothers.

[@donmonaghan3509]

The IRA brought Murder and mayhem to 3 generations . Now its all a turf war over drugs. Its going to take another 3 generations to put it behind them . Thank for F*** All Adams and Co .. God may forgive you . But I don't

[@gazzy5303]

To say “Nobody want’s a return to the troubles” simply isn’t true.

[@joanofarc708]

Exactly their just keeping a lid on things

[@Ard-mhacha-abu]

Honest, decent folk don’t want a return to conflict.

[@gazzy5303]

@@Ard-mhacha-abu I agree mate but that isn’t everyone, not even close.

[@beslanintruder2077]

Time will tell, I doubt most people want to go back to open bombing, drive by shootings and soldiers constantly in their neighborhoods.

[@Rownaldo1]

You mean scum of the earth vermin Saoradh/ New IRA?

[@acegangmobile5491]

Why did the british do this to Ireland?

[@thcdavies8479]

The British government was in control of the whole island of Ireland. Ulster province was the most unruly part of Ireland. The implanted the most unruly people from mainland Britain Scottish/English borders. They wanted more protestants in Ireland

[@donmonaghan3509]

The IRA done this .as the American dobe it do the Native American tribes.. get your own house in order before you cone with s***

[@RobertK1993]

Money power like all Medieval Monarchy/Crowns

[@RobertK1993]

​@@thcdavies8479Ulster Scots Presbyterians have turned out it be incompetent Loyalists they had that little Irish Republican rebellion in 1798 led by Ulster Scots Presbyterians.

[@iodedonpepto]

Anyone who’s interested in learning more about this should read “say nothing”. Incredible book

[@merseydave1]

What you see here are the implacations and repercussions of The British Empier as they manipulated the people and land of Ireland

[@donmonaghan3509]

Oh shit ...the Propaganda book of fools has been opened again. Ffs turn the page and shut that book once and for sll ..fool

[@JonathonHyndman-qh7zs]

The troubles lasted what most will say around 40 years but in my personal opinion the troubles have been way back from the days of the famine. Though throughout history many men and women have been held to a unwritten code psycologically so too speak but then. To elaborate on that I think that people from say the shankill and people from ardoyne or the bogside and the opposite part in Derry. Im not too sure on the "opposite". What I'll start with is that on both side of the fence so many have seen so much pain and suffering which has either directly or indirectly effected them in ways that even at the time might not be understood but still the full effect is what it says. I think in all honesty that this wont last much longer there may still too this day be some sectarianism I know that for sure but we have almost began to coinside with each other for what may be referred to as a greater good i.e money, a safer environment or even if you will some more friends. Many men and women will be effected in the future by this as myself Im 28 and it's been such a big focal point. That's an understatement but none the less an honest take on a 28 year olds outlook on life in belfast. With so many changes happening daily it's a constant stuggle for people's minds to come to terms with anything maybe. I'm saying this on behalf of most not all. I'd like to put emphasis on that last sentence there.

[@percycolburn6607]

What's with the loss in audio

[@linarez90]

I was thinking of visiting from England for a holiday. I won't now. I thought things had moved on.

[@Oddly1970]

Learn by your mistakes don’t let the future be your past .

[@johnkennedy972]

A find that sad more people have died with drugs alcohol taking there own life’s etc than more people died during the war

[@sunrayisdown1690]

The Troubles were started in 1967/8 by the unionists a dnd the British government. Why does no one including the England want to talk about it ?

[@darnellbiggumsthe9th658]

exactly the UVF killed 2 irish nationalists in 1966, 2 years before the civil rights movement had even mobilised, the free state government and especially the british government along with unionists here never speak about that it’s always sinn féin/IRA did this and did that

[@donmonaghan3509]

It started in 1916. With treason to their fellow man

[@sunrayisdown1690]

Really. Do your homework mate. I done 2 tours in Northern Ireland. How many you ?

[@donmonaghan3509]

They were started in the 1916 Easter uprising..then 1921/22 civil war. Then the ,1950s border campaign Then The again in the 1960s . The soldiers werd brought into protect the Nationalist Diehards and they started to Shoot them .. get your history from the facts not from murders Gerry Adams .. A tour ... you have NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS

[@sunrayisdown1690]

Royal Marines. Who the f*ck are you to interrogate me .

[@lazylad8544]

A United Ireland will happen. Its important that both sides honour the good Friday agreement. Fight for peace like you fought for conflict. (But not literally). Stop the bs with the religious crap.

[@darnellbiggumsthe9th658]

the conflict is not religious at all and it infuriates me when the old “catholic vs protestant” bs is spewed because i know protestants who consider themselves irish nationalists same as me, it’s a conflict on nationality nothing else

[@johnphelan6623]

He even had to stop after he claimed he needed "hip replacements" due to the troubles...... 😂😂😂

[@edwardodonnell6857]

At the moment in the UK the Tories are robbing the working class blind every way they can raising interest rates 12 times the point is when people in power make selfish decisions ordinary working families suffer.There needs to be a political strategy and structure that represents and gives equal opportunity to everyone regardless of financial status perceived class tribal affiliation or religious orientation.We need to work at solving problems for the greater good not easy but better than war.

[@lockandloadlikehell]

Lol stop funding genocide and famine and murder around the world with your Yankee bosses and you'll have more cash

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

That would be the north of Ireland.

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

Ders no north to us Irish it's one beautiful island Erin go bragh 🇮🇪

[@GypsyIrishNewfieNomad]

The Law has nothing to do with Justice

[@RazorMouth]

It was a war, people need to try and move on. Constantly shouting for justice etc. is only dragging out the pain and passing it on to the youth. It was 25 years ago when it ended.

[@100proofcrew]

But England is still illegally occupying half of a fucking island that isn't theirs

[@abbeyjane5014]

I agree I'm part of the young generation and I'm sick of it we need to move on to the future I'm an atheist too the old generation lives in the past

[@RobertK1993]

Ulster Unionists want to nail Sinn Féin/IRA but are only nailing Northern Ireland with the Republic of Ireland permanently Brexit support was first nail in the coffin for the Act of Union 1800.

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

Dey should go where dey call home England.. Ireland for Irish 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@Gayasshunk1923]

Côte d'Ivoire for the Côte d'Ivoirians ❤❤🇨🇮🇨🇮

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

@@Gayasshunk1923 Irish or English my friend I don't know what Ur saying

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

@@Gayasshunk1923 u are from the Ivory coast n dlvorians was it used Wen u wanted french oppression out 🤔

[@RazorMouth]

​@@grahamr-oj3wf you used the Ivory Coast flag 😅

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

@@RazorMouth only coped dat now good spot bro dats wat nice blunts to ye 🇮🇪

[@kovy689]

If you look closely, you can see Lebron traveled.

[@eddenoy321]

Google 'black Irish' ...he's been around...

[@darnellbiggumsthe9th658]

THIS CONFLICT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION.

[@dod4004]

It's just pure coincidence that one side is overwhelmingly protestant and the other Catholic? Spooky.

[@darnellbiggumsthe9th658]

@@dod4004 religion is used as a classic means of the british age old tactic of divide and conquer, the old conflict in ireland when the british first invaded i suppose was religious with catholics being historically stripped of all rights by the protestant colonists, but the troubles isn’t a religious conflict at its core i’m from the north and it’s really down to national identity e.g. irish vs british, the founding father of irish republicanism was a theobald wolfetone and he was a protestant and even one of the founders of the INLA ronnie bunting was a protestant but both were irish republicans so obviously the conflict isn’t so cut and dry because no one here gives a fk what your religion is

[@donmonaghan3509]

Hahaha. And slavery wad nothing to do with Blacks. .what an A/H

[@xEvan117x]

@@donmonaghan3509no

[@kateemma22]

It's not as simple as religion - it's also political ideology and abject poverty as well - but it can't be denied that in NI Catholics tend to go towards the left and Protestants towards the right. The last election has shown a rise in middle ground/centrist parties though thanks to the growth of young people in the city centre.

[@dougcarroll9623]

Left in 94

[@myoldvhstapes]

Tracy Chapman sure has changed!

[@eddieburris675]

Blonde woman towards the end 10/10. Gorgeous and is on the right side and she knows it too! Make ‘em answer for their sins!

[@stephenmcguire8545]

Its easy talking about it.

[@ingridthurston-polkey653]

It’s really sad that after fifty years of killing and more the victims both sides and victims in England they did not ask to be terroirs and the same right over the world 🌎 god gave life to us and not to be taken by killing it just sad 😢😢😢🙏

[@northred4930]

No harm to that Rafferty boy he talks some balls

[@marc-pu5dx]

A shoutout to the two so called activists. Do you think that the Provos that where given OTR letters should be revoked and held accountable for their crimes? They where given them because I’m sure there was evidence that could put them on trial but to get the good Friday agreement Tony Blair give them this. You want to see loyalists on trial and ex soldiers but the ones that carried out the likes of la mon let off lol aye sure the day they done La mon they where just protecting their community.

[@arthurgoodness7865]

One man was convicted for the La Mon bombing. Two out of the other three members of the bombing group were paid agents of RUC Special Branch and so they were never going to be charged/convicted, although the PIRA did kill one of them when it became public knowledge that he was a paid RUC agent. OTR Letters, people have got a lot of mileage out of those and in most cases get it wrong. Families who lost loved ones to loyalist and British Force violence are just as entitled to justice as families who lost loved ones to republican violence.

[@marc-pu5dx]

@@arthurgoodness7865 of course they are 100 percent. But that’s not what’s happening. Ex soldiers being trialled for their crimes and so they should if they done wrong. No Provos being trialled for their crimes as they have OTR letters! It’s one sided FACT. And Sinn Fein Glorify the killers. Just look a few weeks ago John Finuicane attending South Armagh PROVOs fun day. Scum.

[@paulduffy4585]

​@@arthurgoodness7865 But they will never get it because the British government were balls deep in many of the worst atrocities. And the real elephant in the room is that the loyalists were straight proxies, not rats or touts, they were servants of the crown, carrying out cabinet policy - which was to terrorize civilians who had no political connections whatsoever. Even though this is all documented fact, it's still not in the mainstream consciousness.

[@edwardmurphy7792]

The legacy of plantation, used by every empire everywhere, conquer ,root out the native population replace with people who will be loyal to tge empire , snd rule ,except it never fully works ,the remnants of the orifinal populations persist and in time grow stronger until conflict between the two groups breaks out, and what can the mother country do ,but cone to the aid of, remember RHODESIA ,kith and kin, hitler used it in the sudetenland, putin uses it in eastern UKRAINE and england uses it in the north,but is now growing tired ,as it is no longer of strategic value, and the u.k. has no longer an empire .. also it is costly to administer... lets face it brexit broke it, when will the penny drop..?? UKRAINE FREE AND AT PEACE

[@lockandloadlikehell]

Uhh Britain definitely did NOT support Rhodesia You need a History lesson

[@igorzkoppt]

For the British government, pursuing the IRA and others implicated in terrorist acts means that in return, the British army and others would also have to be held accountable for their actions. Full immunity for the Irish republicans = you can't realistically ask accountability for what the British authorities did and supported. I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's the actual motive right now.

[@joanofarc708]

The British literally got away with murder in Ireland

[@loneprimate]

True, and fair's fair. You either all agree to put it behind you with a clean slate, or you keep rubbing salt in a wound you never let heel and then wonder why, in 2023, you still can't have a pint in "themun's" part of town.

[@Dreyno]

You’d have a point if you weren’t utterly wrong. What is this IRA immunity you speak of? IRA members are still at risk of prosecution for any acts that have not passed the statute of limitations. So anyone suspected of murder who has evidence collated against them can be arrested and charged. Letters were sent that told hundreds of suspects that they were unlikely to be prosecuted unless new evidence against them came to light which meant they were always at risk of prosecution. Even those “letters of comfort” are not worth the paper they’re written on as the British government has been challenging the legality of the letters that it sent to these people. John Downey had been sent one of the letters which was overturned in 2014. He was extradited to the U.K. from Ireland in 2019 and is currently in the courts trying to stop his trial for killing two soldiers in 1972, proceeding. Half a century later and he’s still being prosecuted. As he should be. So maybe look at the tiny handful of British soldiers who were ever even charged with the many murders they committed and you might realise where the immunity actually lay. It’s all well and good having an opinion but at least try not to be utterly ignorant of the topic before proffering it.

[@joanofarc708]

@David Reynolds so the British and those fruitcake "loyalists " were totally blameless ffs cop on ,what about the black and tans ,the deliberate starvation on the Irish during the famine the eradication of the Irish language, the stealing of Irish land the plantation of ulster,Ireland you seem to forget about that

[@munsteerarla6585]

@@georgerickman9314 British soldiers who served? You mean terrorists in foreign lands.

[@leedoug326]

Did Jonathon Ball and Tim Parry get justice. 3 and 12 years old.. Hypocritical at best.

[@JohnJohn-zn8ib]

Pity Thatcher wasn’t taken out.

[@breenirwin2356]

The paramilitaries will always be there

[@OskarMikee]

Never be at peace

[@123YMR]

It’s was never a religious war it was a war between the native Irish and planted British population, they just happened to have different religions. The media sold it as a religious war, it wasn’t.

[@johndillinger8424]

How native is native? Am I native as my family has been here since 1870? Bobby Sands native? He was from a mixed marriage. Was his Mum not native?

[@putler965]

Then why was Lenny Murphy a Protestant terrorist?

[@gottmituns813]

NO HUNS IN OUR AREA

[@RazorMouth]

Problem was, is and always will be partition of the island. The Anti-Treaty side was right in the 1920s. Even Thatcher knew it in the end.

[@beslanintruder2077]

Good call

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

Michael Collins taught it was a start I wonder if he lived wud we av our unfied Ireland Erin go bragh 🇮🇪

[@caitlynmcconnell9006]

I mean the British could just go home…how is it after all this time, Britain is still allowed to militarily occupy Irish land.

[@lockandloadlikehell]

Or you could go home Get cracking

[@donmonaghan3509]

And America is allowed to occupy Native American tribes lands .. the treaties were actually 99 year leases.. don't talk such shit

[@krugerfuchs]

You need to stop causing this crap we've had enough

[@wildirishladdavy7965]

Unfortunately Belfast is the new Birmingham. RIP Belfast 😢

[@DMurrayNYFL]

Hello, I'm an extremely novice historian and was hoping could you please explain this comparison?

[@wildirishladdavy7965]

@@DMurrayNYFL Ireland is going to end up like England. Over run with illegal immigrants.

[@lockandloadlikehell]

​@@DMurrayNYFLlol Don't he daft

[@DMurrayNYFL]

@lockandloadlikehell it's a genuinely sincere question man. My bad if being 'daft' was a putoff ,but I was seriously looking for thoughtful perspective.

[@patrickodonnell9770]

Ireland unfree shall never be at peace

[@johnathandaviddunster38]

A lot of good apples, a few nuts .........

[@johnkennedy972]

They talk about the border there’s 30 odd borders facts

[@Lar308]

Anywhere the Brits have been they always without fail have left a legacy of bitterness, violence and division. We saw this and are still seeing it in India / Pakistan, Cyprus, the middle east, Africa, the EU. That's because Imperial britain's modus operandi was always to divide and conquer and give power to the minority - and if there was no minority they would just ship them in like the Russians are doing now in Ukraine.

[@munsteerarla6585]

​@@georgerickman9314The British was the empire with the largest use of slaves so one example isn't going to fix you of all the wrong they did. They are responsible for the death of millions of people in famines which they orchestrated all around the world so don't use a small example to say Britain is great.....

[@ciaranmac8689]

Bull shit the City of London banks are behind most if not all of it.

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

I agree ,800 years of it we took no more one Ireland one island Erin go bragh 🇨🇮💯

[@stiofain88]

​@@georgerickman9314 Then why are they constantly asking you to return stolen artifacts and for reparations?

[@stiofain88]

@@georgerickman9314 Ah I see. And those concentration camps in South Africa and Kenya....how did they trick you into that?

[@irish5347]

Hard to take communists and socialists seriously.

[@Selous_Scout]

Those catholics blame us for looking after our kif and kin in Northern Ireland but they took up arms to just remember that

[@jimmyrutledge5115]

Selous Scout ? Says everything !

[@donmonaghan3509]

Spot on

[@arthurp-er1yz]

You Irish are wonderful, awesome souls! Unite, be one, and be a great people "for Christ's Sake"

[@britainman3459]

You need to learn the history culture and opinions of multiple distinct cultural groups to comment on anything especially northern ireland you clearly haven’t done that

[@donmonaghan3509]

Ok then give America back to the Native American and Canadians peoples . Get your own house in order before you preach shit too others

[@a81758]

They need to open their bible and apply God's word to their life.

[@alancurran5643]

proddy side of the story

[@wolfiemum461]

You skipped so much history

[@krugerfuchs]

And why did you bomb dublin

[@TheKieran65]

Belfast starting to look more like Africa now. Brits out everyone else in is the cry now 😡

[@MrGrifft]

Do you have brain damage or something?

[@noodlyappendage6729]

Belfast? You mean Dublin!

[@ciaranmac8689]

​@Noodly Appendage its happening everywhere

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

@@noodlyappendage6729 Brits out to where dey belong where dey say Ur a citizen off England Ur beliefs Ur culture is in England unified Ireland Erin go bragh 🇨🇮🇨🇮💯

[@wildirishladdavy7965]

Yes it’s a disaster with all these illegal immigrants getting free housing hotels etc etc ….

[@charlietwotimes]

Of course the British want to draw a line under it. Their connivance + assistance with both Loyalist paramilitaries and the RUC, although widely known, would become something actionable. Things like "internment without trial" of both sides paramilitaries would be conveniently no longer a problem for Britain. That's what it's all about; not drawing a line, it's all about escaping legal consequences.

[@eagleclaw1179]

This is such propaganda Still making it about Catholics and protestants and not about the British

[@putler965]

It isn't about the British. It's about the majority of the population wanting to stay in the UK. The British have repeatedly stated they will leave if the majority of the population wants them to. The majority doesn't.

[@eagleclaw1179]

@@putler965 Historically it is absolutely about the British government and the British occupation of Ireland Would you like to go over some historical facts of the British governments racism towards the Irish? Do we need to go over the historical facts regarding the “Easter Rising”, “home rule”? I mean seriously are you gonna sit here and say that it has nothing to do with Britain?

[@putler965]

@@eagleclaw1179 Has the British government said it would respect the will of the majority of the people of Northern Ireland? That's been its position since The Troubles began. The IRA, however, didn't respect votes and chose violence instead. There isn't an "occupation" of Northern Ireland because the majority of the population wants to remain in the UK. This has to do with the people of Northern Ireland and the will of the voters.

[@putler965]

@@eagleclaw1179 But if you think the will of the majority of voters in NI doesn't matter, then I guess the same goes for all the non-native voters in North America. Indeed, Irish continue streaming into North America, and last time I checked it's land that was taken by force from other people (and not 500+ years ago but only about 200 years ago). I suppose Native Americans and First Nations can try using violence to take it back by force.

[@Johnnyfive55]

Why 6 counties?

[@padraigpearse1551]

The Province of Ulster is made of 9 counties in total: Antrim, Armagh, Derry, Down, Fermanagh, Tyrone, Cavan, Donegal Monaghan. Out of these counties the first 6 constitute Northern Ireland. In 1921 the first four of these were predominantly Protestant while the other 6 were Catholic. Northern Ireland was intended from the start to have a unionist majority for the foreseeale future. In order to achieve this majority the 4 protestant counties plus the 2 catholic counties of Fermanagh and Tyrone were seeceded from the rest of the island. If the other 3 counties of Ulster (Cavan, Donegal & Monaghan) were included in Northern Ireland then there would have been a Catholic majority from the start.

[@mickmacgonigle5021]

To ensure a built in unionist majority. Nothing to do with democracy

[@thejoin4687]

It's a nice even number.

[@Johnnyfive55]

@@padraigpearse1551 Why not 4 counties?

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

@@padraigpearse1551 great answer bro Erin go bragh 🇮🇪💯

[@solodragoon]

so you showed one side, are you gunna show the other?

[@binflynn1]

You can never trust a troubled dog , same apply to some people in Northern Ireland

[@donmonaghan3509]

Never wipe you dog then you fool

[@binflynn1]

?

[@gazzy5303]

Imagine going on the tele in your pyjamas and little gay socks. Hippy bellends.

[@j2msu341]

My thoughts exactly !

[@tropicalpalmtree]

They're commies what do you expect lol. Pair of handout scroungers most likely.

[@mirola73]

Many parties in NI STILL practice sectarian politics (both sides) and whole tribes (both sides) still vote for them................. We ourselves ensure (in part) that this crap keeps going.

[@johnhughes8016]

Amazing, half the country wants nothing to do with the British, saying it loudly and often, but they are quick to claim they are ‘owed’ something... They seemed to be quite happy cheering when the Shankhill chip shop bomb went off, I know as I have the displeasure of being in the Ardoyne estate at the time it went off... Both sides were as bad as each other, and the majority of the population supported ‘their’ side... the whole place is a basket-case.... As for the cover of ignoring of the deaths/ crimes till happening.... its politically expedient for them, both sides of the border to pretend everything is all good...

[@RobertK1993]

Who was cheering about the Shankill Bomb Sinn Féin wasn't it was a mess

[@patriciareilly8841]

No one talks about the sex crimes.

[@GSGTRFC]

I’d like to see a bridge built from Scotland to Northern Ireland in my lifetime, it’s the easiest solution to everything 🇬🇧

[@poloflaith9993]

😀

[@noodlyappendage6729]

I love what a bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland would represent but it’s a no go at this stage. It would cost far to much money and it would serve enough people. What we need is better interconnectivity. I think Airlanders are the way forward. Once Northern Ireland and Scotlands population is higher then we could afford a bridge and there would be enough people for the bridge to serve. There are things that I would like to see like a UK wide rugby or football league. It’s the interconnectivity of our isles that will destroy Irish republicanism and separatism.

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

I'd rather Ireland stay an island eirn go bargh 🇮🇪

[@Bobby-xr4bo]

I’d love to see a bridge built between Scotland and Europe… but it’s just pie in the sky.. same as your bridge

[@Bobby-xr4bo]

@@noodlyappendage6729 there is a very simple way to destroy Irish Republicanism… move the Ulster Scots back to the mainland and leave Ireland to get on with running their own country…

[@warmasterhorus]

Weak, boring documentary. Waste of time.

[@pjg_77]

UP.UP.UP.UP.UP THE UDF

[@grahamr-oj3wf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37bqZuDjpKLnKc dats wat u dogs did to my county but soon we be unified Erin go bragh🇮🇪

[@defunctt]

The problem with that girl at the end is she doesn't seem to appreciate the concept of tit for tat. The whole point why most people forty years ago understood a general amnesty like the Good Friday was worth trying because everything up to that was tit for tat violence. She is now wanting to dredge up the mud but once you start the tit for tat violence again and new names start being added to the body count that side of things is obviously a damn sight worse then her sense of a lack of justice for things that happened 50/60 years ago, more than double her lifetime ago.

[@kenhaz84]

She was all over the show in what she was saying on everything.

[@belfastbhoy5679]

I didnt befriend a protestant until i left school at 19 and entered the workplace, i was only born in 1995. It wasnt by choice, just the areas i grew up in were 99% nationalist and i went to catholic schools. Thats the problem, regardless of there being no conflict, ignorance breeds fear, a lot ot the times thats then exacerbated by the older generations stories of the troubles (normally 1 sided) protestants will talk about la mon and shankill bombings, catholics will talk about greysteel and bloody sunday. There needs to be a fact based, shared curriculum about the troubles. In history, we learnt about the emancipation, robert emmett and the easter rising, the civil rights movement and British brutality. I would hazard a guess in state schools the version of history taught is quite different, it gives younger people a one sided view on the troubles. I will freely admit that i hold strong views on the topic myself, based on the views of my parents growing up and what ive been told by peoole around me. Its something thats hard to shake regardless of how self reflective one is.

[@inout3513]

The nationalists dont want anyone talking about it because they want to do it trough underhanded political means.....the unionists dont talk about it because they themselves have felt let down by the government who govern the united kingdom the people who they are fighting to stay apart of....

[@mrwizard7369]

The British are responsible for all of it PERIOD!!!

[@mcivor321]

The English specifically, they used the Scots to colonised Ulster an unruly province. The Scots aka Ulster Scots were like in the south park movie, "blacks to the front, human shield". Like Ulster was colonised by Scots but it isn't a Scottish colony, it's an English colony, get what I'm saying, like it's ruled by London