Joy Anna Duggar Finally ADMITS She's Not Ok, Inside Her Secret Battle Hidden Behind Her Smile

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Joy Anna Duggar has been struggling for a long time. Fans have noticed that her once happy demeanor had vanished and obvious struggles in caring for her children became common fodder online. Now she's finally admitting what's been going on.
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[@WithoutACrystalBall]

Hey friends! So I just want to be super transparent about my specific diagnosis. I am diagnosed with ADHD, PTSD, generalized anxiety, panic disorder, insomnia and co-morbid ocd tendencies with the adhd. I have never been depressed until this past year. My doctor said that a sign of your adhd not being properly treated while on meds can cause depression. Since last May I have been agoraphobic, anxious, depressed and very overwhelmed about being seen. It started with the staph infection. But it morphed into just a full blown mental health issue. I’m on the mend. I’m 4 days on my new dose. I’m already feeling more like myself - minus the picking - but it’s getting better. It takes about a month or so for a new dose to fully work with me. Post partum I was never diagnosed with depression. I was already being treated for GAD and panic disorder prior to my pregnancy. I was on meds during my pregnancy & post partum because going off would have been detrimental to me. My ADHD diagnosis followed extended breastfeeding and finally being able to tackle my mental health. I’ve been treated for 7 years for ADHD. It’s been life changing for me. But this past year was for sure a reminder to me that I need to be more mindful I know what it’s like to grow up in a family that is resistant to therapy and medication. It took a lot for me to get help. So I can empathize with Joy. Katie

[@tamaraliscia3408]

Katie ... I haven't watched the full video yet but wanted to reply to your opening post. Thank you for your transparency. I'm so glad you are beginning to feel better. Telling your story encourages others to not hide in plain sight, and perhaps gives them hope. Talking to a doctor, then finding mental health care is the most important gift one can give themself. I always knew I was "different", but could never say why. Years ago a friend who has Depression, after a conversation casually suggested I talk to my doctor, so I did. Along the way I learned to as politely as possible dismiss the "just think good thoughts" from nonmedical professionals. (My childhood plays a role, as well.) I, too, require daily medication for Depression, GAD, PTSD and occasional agoraphobia that began after an assault. I have OCD tendencies, as well. Looking back, I probably had post partum depression, as well, but those weren't words any doctor ever used when I had my kids. I'm not embarrassed or ashamed of my conditions, or that I require medications, nor do either scare me. Before is before and after is now and into my future. I have a good life and I'm thankful.

[@reneebeausheur523]

I totally relate, Katie. Thx for sharing. So glad you are feeling a little better.

[@ramonaspencer5518]

I know you have plenty to do already, but can you or one of your readers , please respond to a comment posted 5 hours ago ? The young lady is asking for advice with her depression. Is there maybe a low cost agency, that can point her in right direction, to start getting help? Im afraid Im not knowledgeable in this topic, but I feel bad for this person. No one has responded to her yet. I won't post her name , her email starts with a h. Her comment is about 5 posts below my Andrea Yates hearted comment. Thankyou Katie

[@valeriemoran842]

Very kind to be so transparent. I think every time someone is open and comes forward to acknowledge thier struggles, it makes it easier for someone else to reach out for help.

[@daniellelafleche953]

So sorry to hear that Katie. Take good care of yourself

[@LizzieDSSG]

Kudos to Joy Anna for giving the finger to IBLP by speaking out and seeing a (gasp!) DOCTOR!! Maybe she should slow down with the birthing, too.

[@larissatom6910]

Agreed. She is young and can have more children later if she chooses. Right now she has to take care of herself and the children she already has.

[@McCarthy0000]

She is not giving the finger to them, she is crapping out as many kids as she can because that’s what women are supposed to do according to that belief. She has been struggling the past 3 times but this last one is taking its toll on her, she needs to STOP. She’s been lucky with her 3 healthy kids. Enjoy it.

[@janarichardson9920]

This is a huge step for her! To publicly express mental health symptoms and that she had seen her doctor and a counselor for her cult upbringing is a breakthrough!

[@gl3913]

It is very impressive and very courageous for Joy Anna to be so public and honest on her struggles with PPD. I am very proud of her for seeking out help from her doctor and admitting that she needs help with what she is going through with the PPD. And, thank you Katie Joy for sharing your truth on your journey with PPD for that is very brave of you. Thank you for being so open with everyone here on your struggles and being open on taking medication for with what you need. It is an honor to be a member of your channel too.

[@MeganInMN]

Had severe PPA and PPD after the birth of my first child. I felt like I was a horrible mother. People didn’t really talk about the issues 25 years ago. It took 12 months of suffering and hitting the lowest point in my life before I got the help I needed. Thank goodness someone finally listened. I was in tune with my subsequent pregnancies & knew what to look out for. Good for Joy for speaking up on this important topic!

[@redwoodredhead]

Yes, I struggled badly with post partem after my second baby. After seeing a doctor I realized that I have been dealing with depression my whole life. Life changing after I found the right medication. Immensely important to my quality of life. I am proud of her for reaching out for help. no one should have to suffer.

[@Natalie-ym8pj]

I watched her video the other day, she is such a sweet girl. I hope she continues to seek help and get better! Im glad you went to your dr Katy, prayers to anyone suffering, i know first hand how hard it is. ❤

[@kimc555]

its so good she can verbalize her mental health issues while she is in the middle of it. I was able to support my husband with him getting help and couldnt see my own declining mental health. in my own mind - i 'just wasnt coping' 'just needed to do better' finally got disagnosed with panic disorder and am thankful its been 6 years - on meds and have had to adjust as needed.

[@nancyglasgow9869]

Thank you for sharing your own struggle. I also have struggled with depression and the more we get it in the open the more people will seek help.

[@MariaChristner-davis]

i had 3 children in a row 3,2 and a baby let me tell you the last 2 took a big toll on my mind and body. its so hard on your body.

[@carolynrigsby5599]

I have been dealing with depression for most my life related to childhood trauma’s. Just because some people are ignorant about how and why depression happens and how to treat it doesn’t mean the person seeking treatment is wrong or should be shamed. People need to acknowledge that depression leads to many altering things in peoples loves. Depression is a major cause of people taking their lives. Thank you for sharing Katie.

[@stephanieharmon379]

I was one that was put on medication for PPD but stayed on it because I realized I had been depressed most of my life and just thought it was normal. I was raised fundy, but my family separated from it years ago. My struggle was with family members who go the all natural route and avoid medication for those purposes

[@christyperdue4270]

Glad you got help 😊

[@stephanieharmon379]

@@christyperdue4270 thank you ❤️

[@486loulou]

Joy Anna, I will pray for you.

[@janicemurray23]

To you Katie Joy, and Jo Anna, you both are brave ladies, to be vulnerable and share your mental health struggles. I too struggle daily with depression, anxiety and PTSD, plus many other physical disabilities, and i can honestly say, thank god for my GP, and the medication I have prescribed for myself. Love and blessings Janice from England xxxx

[@stefanilesser1396]

She could really help others by being open and vulnerable. Good for her!

[@virginiajoyner4990]

I dealt with PPD after my 3rd child. I cried for the 1st 3 months of pregnancy because I had a tubulagarion after the 2nd child. After birth is when I got help. After a year of meds and counseling to get me get back on track. What she is going thru is horrible. She forgot her up bringing of going to the church for help. She did what she needed to do to get better. Thank you Katie for bringing this to rhe public.

[@Milaperadotti]

I’m sorry you are not doing well. I have been there and still struggle at times. Wishing you the best!

[@user-oo1fk3nv8z]

I went to the Dr for unrelated reasons, but he told me my vitamin D was very low and told me that can be a factor for depression and feeling tired etc

[@barb-jm7990]

Same here! My doctor said my vitamin D was the lowest he has ever seen. It was a 7 when it should have been over 30. My hair had been falling out as well as me being extremely tired. All improved now with Vitamin D.

[@ElleElleScheme]

No matter what divides us, our human experience will benefit from us choosing to unite/back eachother up/support eachother. I hope JoyAnna will be set up for success with the resources she is aware of, and provided without judgement, and she needs to be received with only tolerance and acceptance and validation, and love to make it all meld and work. I hope the available resources to her are made transparent, obvious and accessible. Best to you, JoyAnna. All of us deserve everything I just typed. When others get what they need, I feel more reassured that I will be successful at getting what I need when I am inevitably in need. Without judgement. I'm glad she has the strength she has. It is exhausting.

[@padfootdoggy]

Honestly glad for the update. When I suspected she was still under her dad I stopped following her. I do hope she gets the help she needs and at times her husband is great... I have seen a few questionable stuff from him too. I don't like how she plays it off as vitamins and makes me think it still has a hold on her... but hoping she really get the help she LIKELY needs.

[@LeeAnnKH]

Praying for every mother suffering with postpartum depression. Get help, from your doctor, behavioral health professional..create your team. Don't worry about folks that say negative things...pray that they never have to go through it. 💜

[@KathleenSalt-g7g]

There is such a stigma around the use of medication and seeking medical help when it's needed for one's mental health. No one would think twice if someone had a broken bone and needed a cast or going to the ER because of a heart attack. Perhaps if people could give the impact of mental health the respect it deserves, society and other aspects of health would have less issues in the long run.

[@karenr716]

JoyAnna is a brave woman for Speaking about the challenges that all mothers deal with to some degree. It’s not easy and difficult to work through. She’s using her platform to help support other mothers. That’s a Christian thing to do.

[@LoudLeo3]

The even more sinister side of toxic spirituality and mental health is the belief that if you are faithful enough and pray hard enough / are good enough are “worthy” god will “relieve” you of that burden so things get worse waiting on that miracle (when maybe the miracle is humanity developing and understanding of mental health sciences and having access to care ❤). No hate, just very personal experience.

[@dianesavant2818]

I hope her hubby is supportive of her.

[@GreatLee05]

I’m so glad Joy Anna is seeking help.

[@shellyvinsant4542]

Thank you for your honesty and vulnerability.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

You are so welcome

[@kathleenmoscillo8552]

Doesn't Josie need seizure meds?

[@Sadiesbby3]

Religious trauma is such a real thing 💔 definitely had to unlearn some things.

[@JTSA1234]

Didn't she have to move her wedding forward? She was in a hurry to suffer.

[@ruthannelamantia5568]

26 years old and four pregnancies. Her hormones, body, mind and soul need a rest to reset. Maybe it’s time to enjoy the kids she has.

[@debshaw680]

He’s so creepy looking. I think the beard makes it worse. His smile doesn’t reach his eyes.

[@derickrae]

I thank God for my Post Partum Depression after my 2nd child. It was so bad that my family ordered me to get help. 6 weeks later I realized I had been mentally ill for YEARS. I finally felt in control of my emotions & thinking. That episode triggered my journey towards mental health. it took another decade or so, but I am in a good place today. I am so grateful for my family. I was raised in Bible Belt culture. I heard sermons from those who had no idea, that mental illness is because of a lack of trust in God. My Bible Belt family cared more about me than what other people might say about me or by extension them. I view my mental health team, both medication & therapists as good gifts from God. I say this to encourage others to get help. I truly wish the best to Joy Anna.

[@c.hansen3139]

It wasn't until my babies were 5 that I finally realized I had PPD after all 3 of my deliveries. It didn't look like they say in the book so I dismissed all my struggles!! But I am so thankful for my therapist and prescriptions to help me live my best life!

[@violet04nunya98]

Very well said. If other women, and even men, put in the effort to finding help for themselves, their lives will certainly improve. Thank you Katie Joy for being so honest and willing to put yourself out there for others to take the first step to get some help for whatever mental health concerns that they might be dealing with, beyond post partum depression. You are truly giving others who might be struggling with something that they feel is too much some hope and a light at the end of the tunnel. Well done Katie Joy. I’ve been a long time fan and will continue to support your channel.

[@kirstenperkins6898]

That’s so great that you had an awesome support system!!! Some of us have been struggling so desperately for years and have no one to help while we get ourselves help. So we live with it. It makes me so so so happy that you were able to begin healing. I love that for you. 🥰🥰🥰

[@MyMaxigirl]

Amen sister.

[@derickrae]

@@kirstenperkins6898 My husband was a Pastor, so i expected him to care about the optics. But he stepped up. He didn't care how, he just wanted his wife back. I'm truly beyond blessed by my family. I'm so grateful for my journey though. I work with teen moms. There's a lot of depression of course. It can be frustrating because I want them to find healing. But also, one of the symptoms of depression is the inability to get help. We just encourage and point the way. Our job is to cheer even the tiniest step forward. My past allows me to have sniper level sad-dar. I can meet a young mom and know immediately that they need help in this area. Today, I'm also glad that it took me a long time to find true relief. This way I can encourage them when it takes longer than. They expected.

[@LindyLoo40]

Depression after having a baby can be bad and give the girl her due, she has been totally honest about it. I really like Joy and l have known people being put into hospital for this. She is a brave young woman for doing this and letting other women know that it’s not just them.🥰

[@christiejensen1606]

It takes a lot of strength and courage to talk about how a woman feels after they have had a baby. I tip my hat to her

[@lmiller1413]

You only get admitted to the hospital when you are suicidal, a danger to others, or severely unable to function. And honestly when a woman has post Parfums depression, I look right at the husband. What is he doing to help around the house to validate her, and make sure she gets sleep. Oh. Wait. He is more concerned about whether we heard the life changing message from the pastor. This man needs a God smack. Pay attention to your wife, and thank her for being a good mother and wife, and then stop focusing on you and focus on her. Selfish self centered men contribute to post Partum depression.

[@heather1650]

Love to all those struggling with mental health ❤

[@MeganVictoriaKearns]

Thank you! 💜💜💜 Every year, because of people like you, the stigma goes down another baby step. Stigma down = easier to make the leap to asking for help.

[@sarahmalkiewicz9003]

I feel for anyone that struggles with ppd. I hope that her husband can step up and help her more

[@MeganVictoriaKearns]

Austin always seems like a strict, misogynistic jerk to me. Obviously I only see glimpses of their lives but in them he's off somehow in a way I don't like

[@tamaraliscia3408]

I don't believe Joy would ever consider taking these steps without Austin's support, or maybe she needed his allowance. Who knows?

[@kristinlozano502]

She has not had a life .. went from Jim Bobs control to her husbands. No college no time to live alone that’s depressing

[@acnacn1861]

I worry about these ladies having their children so close together. That in itself is hard on the body

[@krlady4703]

I hope she is seeing a state licensed doctor and a state licensed counselor and not a “church counselor”. She is brave for speaking out and I applaud her for doing so.

[@marieneu264]

Same! I hope it’s not a “life coach” like Jodi from the 8 passengers drama.

[@morknmindy561]

@@marieneu264 OMG.. That chick was nuts!

[@Bildgesmythe]

No doubt a church counselor that prays away the sins of Eve. I pray it's an actual doctor!

[@lizhoward9754]

I was thinking the exact same thing. I hope she has a real counselor and doctor and not some “life coach” or some therapist/doctor who puts religion over science and medicine

[@canadianalien370]

Seriously, are any of the Dugger kids really ok? 🤷‍♀️

[@larissatom6910]

I think some are happy with the way things are but the fact Joy can admit she is not okay, instead of faking the happy countenance, is a big win for a Duggar.

[@CEDL4072]

I doubt it and their "religion" says all negative feelings are demonic posessions!

[@shacker2222]

Shiny Happy People.......far from it.....

[@teresavazquez264]

It makes me sad for her but I’m glad she’s taking the steps to address her struggles. I could be wrong but she has untreated mental health issues. Being sexually abused is a huge trauma. She rushed into marriage and children. She’s also experienced a child loss. That’s lot for most people. I hope she gets the help she rightfully deserves 💚

[@romaolberding7288]

In a perfect world no one would need meds. No one says "gee, i wish i could be on more medications" (me included). I am 63 and have struggled from depression for a long time. I always thought that because i was intelligent and had a blessed life that i should be able to "fix it" myself. So, i would go on and off my meds. Finally, about 10 years ago, i made the best decision of my life. I was NEVER going off my meds again! I am on a "cocktail" of 3 antidepressants, and i thank God everyday that these meds exist, as do my therapists who prescribe them. Sometimes you just can't do it alone!

[@jaxon_star123]

i've heard joy mention before that she suffers from a thyroid condition called hypothyroidism. i hope her dr is keeping an eye on her levels while she's doing bloowork. i have a thyroid disease and believe it or not,it affects the chemicals in your brain and can cause mental health problems, i know this from a personal standpoint, as i have hypothyroidism now that i had to have my thyroid removed due to it being cancer. i have to say its incredibly brave of joy to speak about this on the internet, its hard enough opening up to your dr sometimes.. i hope her husband is being supportive for her. praying for you Joy! feel better soon!

[@ramonaspencer5518]

Andrea Yates had postpartum depression....her husband didn't believe in birth control....their five young children did not survive....very sad

[@rosebojorquez1237]

I'm glad she feels that she can share her depression and actually put a name to it. I feel that just knowing why you're feeling helps tremendously. Its ok to talk about it. I'm just glad she acknowledged that she needs help get through this.

[@lestranged]

Too many babies too close together doesn't give her body and mind time to recover.

[@KittymoreJoy]

She looked exhausted after the first baby and had never stopped looking exhausted after two more. So glad she is getting help. Hope that husband of hers can do more than keeping her pregnant, and actually help lighten her load. I am not hopeful on that.

[@carolbullard7956]

Austin helps out a lot.

[@Mrs.Highland]

Agreed. I have an off feeling about him.

[@KittymoreJoy]

@@carolbullard7956 I do not agree, he comes across as very arrogant, and somewhat overbearing. Joy Anna is a sweet, girl who had no experience with life on her own, to develop her own personality, or aspirations. He got her pregnant, married her and now a mother of three has exhausted her in body and spirit. Adjusting to marriage is hard, being pregnant at the same time is a steep learning curve. I am making no moral judgements on her, but he should have been wearing protection. He did not suggests to me he trapped her into marriage. That shows his lack of character and integrity. I have lived long enough to recognize a selfish man when I see one. He is very much like her Dad. I hope he sees the need to be a support to her as she strives to regain control of her life. I applaud her efforts towards mental health and wish her well.

[@carolbullard7956]

@@KittymoreJoy From what Katie has reported, their marriage was arranged by their fathers. I'll have to pay closer attention to Austin's behavior more.

[@karendarnall1243]

I wish the females in this family….all females…. would understand that they don’t have to have child after child after child to be fulfilled in life. Postpartum is a serious, uncomfortable condition for many and is enough reason alone to stop reproducing and appreciate the family you do have. It is also their decision, not the man’s.

[@christinajanzen1601]

If I was married to that dope I'd be depressed too. Guy is a jerk. She needs to leave him.

[@gynelleking5864]

I've been on meds for a very long time. They are like my glasses. In order to see each morning, I put on my glasses. In order to do my day, I swallow a few pills and I wouldn't go a day without them!

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@vbrooker1]

I wear glasses and take meds, too. What a wonderful analogy. Thank you! ❤️

[@michaelahall5292]

I’ve had depression since I was a child. I am now 68. The meds I’ve taken saved my life. I need to get my meds tweaked also. Good health to you!

[@rebeccavincent630]

Is this the daughter with the emotionally abusive and manipulative husband

[@marilynnfowler1030]

I think so.

[@carolbullard7956]

No

[@carolbullard7956]

I don't know of any of the husbands that are abusive.

[@mattmitchell7350]

Yes

[@carolbullard7956]

@@mattmitchell7350 can you explain what makes you feel that Austin is abusive & manipulative?

[@allisong2729]

What about Lydia. I get the deportation stuff and the validity of that but her postpartum was caused by the followers. They're no saints but noone deserved to feel the way she shared she was feeling. Makes me feel horrible that I partake in this content.

[@teamcougars]

I’m so glad she is acknowledging her struggles and recognizes it you will be in my prayers Joy 💜💜

[@victoriacoomber9899]

Nobody should ever be made to feel ashamed about their mental health. If you have a sore throat, a cough, a random pain, you go to your Doctor to get something to help, mental health should be no different. It's about time the stigma around it is dropped. Thank you for speaking out about your own journey x

[@heatherpatterson9246]

What do you do if you don’t have a doctor and can’t afford one. I’m struggling really really bad for the first time in my life. It’s scary. Not postpartum, any suggestions I’d really appreciate

[@barb-jm7990]

I looked up your question on google and here is what I found: "Your local health department's mental health division or community mental health center provides free or low-cost treatment and services on a sliding scale." There should be a phone number you could call in your community for these departments. I live in a big city and we also have a county hospital where you can go to ask for help. Good luck to you! You have now recogonized there is an issue, so time to move forward in solving it and feeling better! That has worked for lots of us!

[@cindyconner5518]

Stop having kids. 3 is plenty. It's quality not quantity. Your mom did the quantity route. How did that work out for your family? Post partium depression can lead to post partium psychosis. PPP is beyond hell on earth and last years. I ended up having a stroke. Body stress mentally and physically left me with PPP which led to headaches, uncontrolled hypertension to a stroke and break from reality. Doctor said no more children. It was no more children

[@StrawberryFields4ever65]

Honestly, as a Christian myself, I am so desperately tired of seeing these poor women struggling with “man made” rules and structures camouflaged as Christian teachings!!! Ladies, our Father’s Yoke is easy! His burden is light!!! We don’t have to be miserable in this life because some man or preacher tells us this is biblically right or wrong. All these rules that some religious leaders place on people, women especially, are just THAT…man-made rules and regulations that they dream up to keep their ladies “in line”!!! Men are to LOVE their wives to submission not imprison them and chain to a life of misery!!! It hurts me to see Joy Anna struggling under the weight of constant birthing and motherhood. There is nothing wrong with a woman taking control of her body and limiting her child bearing. It can be done naturally and these men need to learn some restraint!!! I have 2 girls and 2 boys…all grown, and I taught my sons to be respectful of their mates. Children are gifts from God and He made TWO parents who should be EQUALLY responsible for their rearing. It’s time for some of these fundamental groups to start holding their men accountable!!

[@susanspisak65]

Medication can be a wonderful life saving option that we have ….. I’ve been on anxiety/panic disorder meds for many years …. Life changing….. good for you, Katie and thanks for sharing this video of such an important topic ….

[@mariavita7536]

I knew you were going to do a story on this! I almost sent this to you the other day. I’m so glad that unlike her sister, Jinger, who had a terrible time after she had her second daughter, Joy-Anna is getting help. She reached out to a doctor and got help. She did the right thing. I’m so proud of her! Thanks for doing this story Katie. I’m one of many, many mothers who suffered from severe postpartum depression. It’s a real thing. You can’t snap out of. Mothers need the help. ❤

[@krismoore9889]

Jinger goes to a church that believes mental issues are caused by the devil . It’s so sad so many women have really suffered due to their belief .

[@nirajjoshi3540]

Hope she stops having kids and enjoys the ones she has and gets real help not just from pills but she needs like a husband that participated with the kids.

[@cindyconner5518]

Imagine leaving your parents home with limited education,no credit score,no work history,no job skills and start popping out kids. History will repeat itself. Little boxes turning out little boxes.

[@AnnaBreit]

Is it post partum or is Joy finally realizing the extent of her PTSD from growing up in a cult? She looks like she is really struggling too and that her hormones are way out of wack on top of this.

[@d.mariejackson7149]

Glad she is sharing her story. Praying for her.

[@vbrooker1]

Thank you for sharing your own vulnerability, Katie, and thank you for sharing this video on Joy Anna. I had a really severe breakdown after I lost my son two and a half years ago. I was hospitalized for four months. I’ve been completely transparent about all of it and I’ve posted extensively on my facebook page about it. When I started doing that, several of my friends opened up to me about their own serious mental health struggles. It’s so true that we never know who we’re helping when we make ourselves vulnerable, so I applaud both you and Joy Anna. Bright blessings to both of you as you navigate your paths, and remember: Mental illness is just that - an illness. It’s not a character defect. ❤️

[@kimkelly9046]

Extremely well said

[@charlieverto-ey2bp]

It's time to stop having kids. You will do better raising the three children you have. Having more children will only use you over the edge.

[@sherrybowie8843]

I have three kids and I had post partum depression with two of them. I can tell you that with my first child I was scared because I had never felt like that before. I had a huge support system but I felt completely alone. When I had it with my third child I could tell when it started and was able to use some tools I learned from the first time to help me through. It's terrifying when you're going through it. I am by nature a very anxious person but this was the absolute worst I have ever felt. My daughter had it with her two children as well and I was able to share my experience with her so that she didn't have to go through thinking she was crazy like I did. I also came from a Southern Baptist upbringing where you prayed for a cure for things. They weren't completely anti medication but just enough to make you think you had failed if you were prescribed anything for mental issues.

[@kathyhrycki8340]

❤ glad Joy has gotten help for ppd. Churches need to let people decide their own healthcare and quit controlling their lives

[@lucylu6462]

Well done joyanna my heart breaks for women made to smile, please husbands/partners, kepe a house and care for children while they're in such need of medical support

[@dianefoster4472]

Without a proper education, how do these people think they are then qualified to teach their kids. Put these kids in school and give yourself a break. Gideon has other issues it’s obvious to everyone but they don’t deal with that either. I don’t get this !

[@denisesiriann7315]

Her father probably won't let her recognize that Gideon has issues. He didn't take care of his children properly either.

[@rachelanderson5608]

Sorry, this is the 1st I'm hearing of any issues with Gideon. What has been going on with him?

[@marwatson7408]

What’s going on with Gideon I’m confused too.🤷🏼‍♀️

[@aj25055]

@@denisesiriann7315 she had Gideon tested a few years ago. She’s well aware of his learning issues. She just recently showed on ig he’s read his first sentence. She said he has a tutor every day for two hours.

[@aj25055]

@@marwatson7408learning issues. They did a vlog about it a year or so ago. I can’t remember exactly what it is. But I also think even though Joy says he’s tutored 2 hours each day as he gets older he may need more GN what Joy can provide on an educational level. It’s sad because it’s not Joys fault she wasn’t educated properly. And I’m not against homeschooling. Those who do it need to be qualified to do so imo

[@Sarah-Graham575]

Katie, thank you for being vulnerable enough to share your recent struggles. Depression is not weakness or lack of belief in any god. It is an imbalance that can be treated with a myriad of options. Therapy is a gift, IMO, to anyone wise enough to seek it…with or without a diagnosis. I trust you’re taking care of yourself and are surrounded by support. I, for one support you fully🕊️✨🕊️

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

thanks! I have ADHD. When ADHD is not properly treated, increased depression can occur. I learned that this past week.

[@Sarah-Graham575]

@@WithoutACrystalBall Me, too!! I lived 53 yrs before getting diagnosed with ADD and can’t medicate due to double bypass at 48. Depression isn’t a dirty word…it’s a fact that needs addressing & compassion♥️

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

Thanks for sharing. I’ve never dealt with depression. It’s not even my diagnosis. My doctor explained that when you are treated for adhd that if you aren’t on the right dose you can become more depressed. Which is what I was experiencing - along with my ocd and anxiety flaring. It’s been a mess of a year

[@kimkelly9046]

​@WithoutACrystalBall you've turned the mess into a message! That takes incredible courage. Kudos to you

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

@@kimkelly9046thanks. I look forward to my ocd tendencies to calm soon as the meds kick in

[@vickieschweizer5392]

She should be careful if she has any more children. My ppd got worse after each child.

[@hessajones]

thank goodness she's seeking help, and hopefully "Mr. Arrogant Misogynist" (read: HER HUSBAND) is on board and helping more. We don't need another Andrea Yates or Lindsay Clancy.

[@jackieaudus9829]

Have Joy Anna and Austin left the IBLP now?

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

they've "left" attending the programs but they haven't left the culture

[@misslora3896]

​@@WithoutACrystalBallWell that's a start at least. Not being so fully immersed in it all I'm sure is better. May well be the reason she was even willing to seek outside help. I would imagine had they still been so involved she might have been discouraged and told to rely on prayer.

[@marilynnfowler1030]

@@WithoutACrystalBall Sad, remember Andrea Yates? Mental health issues - baby after baby?

[@barbaracasta5579]

Thank you for sharing. The struggle is real!!! 😢

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

It really is! You got this!

[@deborahkolp64]

It’s sad that these young adults feel more safe to be vulnerable with an unknown audience than their own families and church groups.

[@deborahkolp64]

Also postpartum depression/ anxiety can be ties to thyroid issues

[@highdesert-boy]

May the God she loves and follows free her from the burden of the religious claptrap of her upbringing and heal her heart, mind, and body.

[@gsmith6026]

Are ANY of the Duggar kids “ok”? I would say a resounding NO!!!!

[@WendyL-iz1ur]

I myself have been on medication for depression, and I am grateful every day that I finally got help. I lost my brother and then my son, had I not sought help I know I probably would not be where I am today. God bless Joy Anna- in order to be able to care for her children she needs to take care of herself. Never be ashamed to seek help, never.

[@arlenehynes4607]

I feel for her. I had two children with no issues after. My 3rd child was born at 25 weeks. I was in the nicu spending time with her, and I had a major panic attack. They took me down to the ER, and that was the start of a major nervous breakdown. That was 34 years ago, and I have been on medications and had to go to therapy to this day. I have SEVERE depression, anxiety/panic disorder, and PTSD. It all sucks! I hope Jill does well with getting help. 😢

[@jlgibbo6116]

When you are taught to shove your feelings aside , at some point in your life, your mind will only take so much...dealing with your issues and having to face the past, is draining and also it is emotionally painful.

[@marieneu264]

My mom was always so against antidepressants and adhd medicine until she sees how they have been LIFE CHANGING for myself and my daughter. She’s a complete believer and advocate now.

[@rxteck1228]

I have 2 children, my sister has 3…. She told me that the birth of her 3rd child was the hardest because of PPD. It terrified me because I had it pretty bad with my first….I couldn’t take a chance on going through that again!

[@sisboombah9595]

I hope she can stay on a path towards secular truths, especially as they apply to women! Real women know they matter. Their bodies matter. Their emotional wellbeing matters. AND you can still choose to be a Christian. IMO, this revelation moment can be an opportunity to be a leader for women's health within a religion. They shouldn't have to choose between their God and their health! Or their husband!

[@kikomartin-pr]

Yes I suffer from bad anxiety and panic attacks. It’s mainly the anxiety. I am on a medication for it and it normally does the job. Obviously I am a man so post partum depression doesn’t apply. Mine stems from a horrible childhood and stuff I found out in 2017 that really messed me up. I am ok now though.

[@sherrynusbaum5913]

Anyone who is suffering from any type of depression should see a mental health doctor. In my late 40s, I was very depressed. My doctor put me on an anti-depressant .My life changed almost immediately. Get help, just as you would if you broke your arm.

[@justd4377]

If you need help get it. If you need medication take it and don't stop taking when you start feeling better. I used to think, "well I'm doing ok now so I don't need meds anymore." Then in a few months I was miserable again. Finally I just acknowledged that my brain chemistry will be out of balance unless I take meds on a regular basis. I work with some good doctors and a therapist that really help my life to be better. Sometimes I need to change meds or dosages and I try to pay more attention to what is going on with my emotions. If you have people around you who aren't supportive ignore them or avoid them. You deserve to be happy and function well so you can enjoy your life.

[@AngelaVEdwards]

*I've been talking about something like this with the Duggars for several years now. The Duggars expect the wife to be not only a baby machine, but the wife has to do all the work taking care of the baby and the home as well. There is no place for PPD in Duggarville.*

[@bridgetdrummond1721]

It looks like this Duggar girl is breaking that model.

[@lisagoldwyn3339]

Hmmm.....I'm Jewish. Am I unevenly yolked?

[@daniellelafleche953]

I am sorry to hear that you also aren’t feeling well. My first advice is to forgive yourself for whatever you are feeling guilty about. Being a career woman and a mother, and on top of it being in the media, is a very hard load to carry. My second advice is to go see a doctor. Take good care

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

I saw my doctor last week 🫶🏼

[@susansmith4721]

Seeking the right mental health professional for one’s issues is so important. I have a relative, by marriage, with OCD. For many years they went to a Christian counselor. Never got better. 2020/2021 things really went bad. They are having to see a psychiatrist, and more medications along with some hospital stays to adjust meds. I keep thinking that IF they had sought help from a true professional things may have gotten. However this person doesn’t talk to the psychiatrist at the appointments. Nothing against Christian counselors, they can help up to a certain point.

[@nicoleannkyle]

Living in a cult with a distant non-helpful spouse (who is probably cheating on her) with a child with special needs and two very young children would definitely challenge mental health.

[@loraleepooley3669]

You don’t know he’s cheating do you?

[@nicoleannkyle]

@@loraleepooley3669 very much so! Watch the videos closely. Phone is constantly to his ear, walking away suspiciously…..

[@ZippyTripped]

This video just put so much of my religious trauma into perspective. I feel lighter! I am so hard on myself, like my inner voice is mean and it started inside my evangelical upbringing. Holy 💩! I didn’t put all of this guilt onto myself, I don’t have to keep carrying it. 😭😭😭😭

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

I carried it for years. Welcome to freedom

[@dawnloveless1165]

This entire family needs counseling

[@kathleenmoscillo8552]

Then she should stop having kids if it is getting harder to recover from having a baby.

[@marilynnfowler1030]

doesnt tke rocket scientist to figure that out either.

[@kellybreedlove4960]

Except for they don't believe in any form of birth control 😢

[@teresanorris4769]

Things change from one pregnancy to the next. Her having trouble this time doesn’t mean that she will next time. Being aware and getting help when needed and a supportive partner is most important.

[@CrystalM1917]

physical stuff doesn't go away with having MORE babies, especially if you don't address it and try to repair whatever the issues are. Emotional and mental state can go up and down for sure though.

[@parkerchiudioni9981]

I don’t think this means she shouldn’t expand her family. It just means she needs to get help after THIS pregnancy, which she is doing. The next pregnancy/birth might be totally different.

[@lojosmom7949]

I'm glad she's getting help. I once had a friend reach out to me and asked me if it was normal to want your baby to die. I was able to reach out to her husband and she received the help she needed. Unfortunately, she never forgave me for "telling on" her. Her son is now a senior and our mutual friends say he's a good guy.

[@michaelahall5292]

Thank you for your honesty. I don’t judge you, I just miss seeing you.

[@annamineer2521]

She has post partum depression. That's all. Don't make it more than it is.

[@brittanymorris943]

I myself have sever depression and sever anxiety and it’s a living nightmare everyday. For joy and anyone from any cult like IPLB coming out so to speak about mental health is huge and commend her for doing so. And I hope your doing so much better now too Katie joy ❤