Joy Division - In a Lonely Place (Detailed vocal)

[@s1050]

Wow imagine the third album. Movement was brilliant but just imagine what it would have been like with Ian. This is as close as it gets

[@shaungreer3350]

i always think about that whenever i listen to new orders early stuff. Imagine ian curtis on a track like blue monday or rather hilariously doing his robot dance on the baywatch beach with regret

[@brownson1970]

god !!! look at the songs ?? atmosphere LWTUA in lonely place etc etc

[@zorbzod6475]

@@shaungreer3350 As a footie fan, would he have been 'singing for England'?

[@Paul_Sepp]

Technically, still(the first vinyl), was the third album. Songs like walked in line, something must break could have been the best oat by joy division.

[@Gary-e2e]

@@Paul_Sepp sorry to disagree mate but technically it wasn’t,the songs on the first vinyl of ‘Still’ (Sound of Music apart) were all tunes that could’ve been on ‘Unknown Pleasures’ but weren’t ,as Peter Saville said “there’s two albums everything else is merchandise “

[@Henryduckfan63]

This is truly one of the most haunting songs I have ever heard. The lofi vocals, the eerie instrumentation, and the knowledge that this was all recorded only four days before Ian's suicide. It almost feels like I'm listening to something I shouldn't.

[@vnessa33]

Ian was murdered for his ring wing nazi beliefs by a Manchester socialist party, he was drugged then hung

[@dylsmith2336]

@@vnessa33 wtf... Ian nor any members of Joy Division had anything to do with nazis or their beliefs...

[@vnessa33]

@@dylsmith2336 youre in denial not only did Ian have his own hitler shrine, but they read countless of books were obsessed with fascisim and david bowie and made notations of their fascination through sound and music... read critical essays on Joy Division and their devout link to Nazism.. youre ignorant stay that way

[@frian21]

@@vnessa33 oh dear lord i cant believe people like you exist

[@vnessa33]

@@frian21 "people like you"

[@userruzik2228]

It makes me feel warm, though not like a pleasant warmth, more like a feverish type. Yet at the same time i feel cold, like a coldness that is both emotional and physical.

[@BrokeAssBass]

have you tried turning the heat up?

[@BrokeAssBass]

@@icedcoffee0962 noob

[@somedude2384]

Thank you for detailing the vocals. There are certain songs that scare the hell out of me, this is one of them.

[@HalfL0ck3d]

Ian sounds like a ghost attending his own funeral, from afar singing to the music playing for him, giving lyrics and details that people can't hear because he's dead. I love both Bush's and Ian's versions of this song, but this one gives me chills knowing what he was going through recording this song, days from his suicide.

[@zorbzod6475]

'Watched from the wings as the scenes were replaying We saw ourselves now as we never had seen' Detachment was a major part of his artistic personality

[@buckrogez87]

This shit sounds IMMACULATE. the vocals are SO clear its ridiculous. Thank you for this.

[@bobpenney9973]

This is the most brilliant, creative, haunting, depressing songs I have ever heard. Thank you Ian. RIP ❤ 🙏

[@niveks8384]

On October 2nd 2018 fire claimed my home and all of it's contents.( My family and dogs made it out). I will never be able to replace my Joy Division collection. Thankfully you posted this for me to find one month to the day after the fire, while a crew is emptying our ashes into a dumpster.

[@johnnycochicken]

Oof! Well, I'm glad for all the silver linings

[@roccomama1]

I’m so sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine how devastating that is. Thankfully your family and dogs (family too) survived

[@s.franco5744]

Hope you're doing well now.

[@mrsteve3232]

I’m sorry about that I’ve just read your message I used to have them well some of them just still but had lent unknown pleasures and closer off a friend but I’m sure you had some gems there I’ve got some John peal sessions on tape and some sound checks on tape of but I’ve not seen them on KZbin and London university on tape I might be to copy them and send them to you if you give me mail address 👍🏻

[@GeneticVehicle]

I'd have sent the wife back in to get the records.

[@domskilamonski6092]

Hooky could fook up any tune and i still get goosebumps.....now thats talent.

[@rotting_flesh3274]

Seriously, this is disturbingly haunting. I feel like Ian was starting to become attracted to death in a similar way that Per Yngve Ohlin was. He sounds completely out of tune in his vocals here (comparing to earlier songs), mumbling, and monotone, like a walking shell of a human. Nothing left inside at all, unable to be saved it really is heart breaking

[@ScriptOfTheBridge]

The connection is you made with Dead is haunting.

[@JonEoinSaoradh]

This is actually a super interesting take...like, Dead was in several ways especially weird with his whole "dead experiences" and the shit with the dead animal remains he would keep in his room suggest a particularly sort of troubled... All of that said, there feels like theres a relationship between being pulled into suicide and a magnetic attraction to death. I've felt the same of Phil Ochs, Doug Hopkins, Layne Staley, and maybe Elliott Smith, to name a few..

[@jeffstone2136]

There had to be a full stop to Joy Division's story. It just happened to be this. Myths were woven around the full stop this was. In another dream, the tale ended differently.

[@gymnopedie4445]

I think they would have gone in a more gothic direction as opposed to the new wave direction that New Order took. In one of Ian's last interviews, he mentioned that one of the few bands he was listening to was the then up and coming Bauhaus.

[@zorbzod6475]

@@gymnopedie4445 Who resisted that 'gothic' label from the off, and soon moved away musically

[@waddledoo4033]

00:00 - Take 5 ("Heart and Soul" CD box version, 1997) 05:17 - Take 4 ("Ceremony / In A Lonely Place " RSD single version, 2012) 10:58 - Take 3

[@WhiteStars12]

I really hope you can find a version of ceremony with Ian's singing that has better sound.

[@FireMinstrel]

I don't think it exists. If it did, New Order would have been much more certain of what the lyrics of Ceremony actually were.

[@vincentthorpe8526]

I’m sure that someone out there is clever enough to take the first verse from the Ceremony rehearsal tape, and edit it into the live version of Ceremony, with its missing verse

[@Rollin1691]

VINCENT THORPE there is someone clever enough! Here’s the live version with missing beginning added

[@Rollin1691]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3ebaJ94o7qeha8

[@xero6396]

It's a pity it has obviously had to have a noise reduction process added to it to make it clear that has left it with that whirly top end. It must be hard finding Joy Division albums that haven't been played to death seeing that their fans are so diehard.

[@DdDdDdDdDded]

This needs to be done to joy divisions ceremony recording

[@dukeon]

This just destroyed my mind. Nice work on the vocals 😳

[@MichaelRogers424]

I wonder what each of us would sing just days before we left earth . This is pretty close to perfect

[@kimgarfunklee]

This is their best song, the ended on the pinnacle here.

[@Robocrap]

I must agree. Love the New Order version also. Just imagine what we could have had if Ian Curtis lived on..

[@patriciosotelo9007]

@@Robocrap The New Order version is more poppy, this version is raw, pure and you know what happened four days later. This version is creepy as fuck but in a nice way

[@bochok5694]

Twenty Four Hours, man...

[@StrayBull101]

always wonder what went on in his mind up to his Fateful decision, this was probably it

[@caveguy22]

Thank you so incredibly much.

[@Hulkk]

Hangman looks round as he waits Cord stretches tight then it breaks holy fucking shit, I can feel every single hair on my body standing

[@zorbzod6475]

If only it had broken in time..

[@thelizardking135]

Caressing the marble and stone Love that was special for one The waste in the fever I heat How I wish you were here with me now Body that curls in and dies And shares that awful daylight Warm like a dog round your feet How I wish you were here with me now Hangman looks round as he waits Cord stretches tight then it breaks Someday we will die in your dreams How I wish you were here with me now

[@HaraldSjellose]

wrong

[@thelizardking135]

Zemzem Dağdelen yeah, they’re the New Order lyrics

[@HaraldSjellose]

@@thelizardking135 are you sure? because i have just listened the new order version and looked for its lyrics before typing these replies, and the lyrics of new order version are also different from yours

[@HaraldSjellose]

oh i think ive checked the lyrics from a wrong source. just looked to metrolyrics and the ones youve typed are indeed the new order version. my mistake i guess, sorry for the confusion

[@thelizardking135]

Zemzem Dağdelen no hassle, I think they ones I posted were copied from Genius and they were the New Order interpretation... Ian sang something very similar

[@basmarell8775]

40 years ago today....

[@Happyradio1234]

Wow this is beautiful and tragic, thank you

[@xero6396]

Why do I find this so soothing? (U_U)

[@glynncrompton450]

because its comforting to know there is always a way out if you choose it

[@optimisticmike1041]

@@glynncrompton450 thats extremely morbid

[@Deniz_2]

@@optimisticmike1041 i aggre

[@zorbzod6475]

@@glynncrompton450 I thought I'd likely kill myself in the '80s. Now I've got cancer, age 60, I want to make sure when I do it that it's 100% guaranteed

[@edwintomei9139]

I get goosebumps listening to this knowing that 4 days later, Ian would no longer be with us. I've listened to a few other versions but this one has a really spectral quality that's not of this world 😢

[@miksmith41]

One of the darkest compositions I have ever heard. Not easy listening when you know what you know :(

[@rederickfroders1978]

Poor Ian.. I love what he made but it is all so, so sad aswell

[@BLUEDDA]

How I wish you were here with me now

[@brownson1970]

So joy division,so sad but beautiful sadly, until hooky goes nuts brilliantly!!

[@-flowers-in-antarctica-]

I remember listening to this a few times when I tried to commit. It’s so calming but in a feverish way, I cannot explain it. It feels like a song that makes you realize you can choose to go out, a death march if you will. I am going to listen to this the next time I try on august 30, I’ll make sure to succeed this time.

[@92sammyp]

don't do it dude

[@rainstorm7307]

Hey, from someone feeling the same way right now, even though it might seem like there isn't any hope for your life getting better, there's always something, keep going, I know I'm just some random person, but I hope you find some light, some happiness in your life

[@aprendizdecapivara2841]

Its september and I really hope you didnt do it man

[@chevaliermacabre2150]

i hope you had the courage to do it, succeeded and are in peace now.

[@chevaliermacabre2150]

@@rainstorm7307 don't lie to him

[@Robobotic]

I like how in the third take they go out of sync and start to improvise, making something remarkable accidentally.

[@davidrivera1969dr]

Or maybe that was done on purpose?

[@johnmarks7600]

This is actually how they made Blue Monday. The synth came in at the wrong time, but they liked it so much they decided to keep it as is.

[@MariaRamirez-nq4is]

sounds to me you're talking about approximately @14:50 mark, right,

[@MariaRamirez-nq4is]

They also seem to switch it up a lil' at @16:13

[@PJXay]

i’m still shocked that when new order recorded this song as the b side to the ceremony single they decided to keep the hangman lyric.

[@patriciosotelo9007]

they keep it because they were young and naive, to them, the lyrics that ian wrote for In a Lonely Place was art and nothing more than that.

[@erinmacdonald5433]

I think they also wanted to keep Ian's words to be true to his vision for the song, like a sign of respect, or paying homage. Very creepy though for sure. It's amazing to me what they were able to do while so obviously shocked and grief-stricken.@@patriciosotelo9007

[@boxianparkk]

esto suena exactamente como lo que es... el canto de una alma atormentada

[@danieldavies2759]

That first note brings you in then its hard to escape.

[@neilmurphy4859]

How good would they have been given the chance. I love New Order, but imagine a proper recording of this and Ceremony. Without wanting to be they would have become one of the biggest bands in the world because this is undeniably brilliant

[@brownson1970]

imagine the next album!! LWTUA?CEREMONY/ dead souls atmosphere , in a lonely place, even tho they wouldn't of put any of it on the record??

[@chrisharavitsidis3798]

Sounds like the Doors..Very eerie and spooky..Awesome

[@zorbzod6475]

Yeah, Morrison's last ever session with them was part of the Riders on the Storm vocal (their most spooky song)

[@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG]

@@zorbzod6475 FYI, it's not widely known but after Jim's death, Van Morrison almost joined the Doors; he got lost on the way to the audition so it never happened...

[@zorbzod6475]

@@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG Like fuck

[@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG]

@@zorbzod6475 No, seriously....his electric car ran out of battery...

[@zorbzod6475]

@@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG Oh, yeah, now I remember, he was so high on acid he thought it was a real car, not a toy, so he kept trying to get into it and couldn’t grasp why he failed. I was walking down Oxford street high as a rocket man once and the cars there looked the size of toys, so I guess the opposite can happen

[@robotubetwob]

I remember at the time and am reminded now, why Ian did what he did. He must have felt there was no way out. He'd done all he could see to do. Ironic that New Order, in subsequent records, showed precisely that way.

[@AleksandarAndrejic-mw9fs]

master piece, look at ian's left foot, one centimeter till floor. ofcourse shadowplay & moment. tear music apart in 5 plans, layers, parts,...... melodica. i'm affraid what life could be. hohner&rickenbacker&fearoflife

[@zenbuddah420]

nice work

[@wilcoleijdens9895]

Didn’t expect Ian’s voice to come back in at 16:15

[@willianchanrockin3952]

timeless funeral song 🤘

[@zorbzod6475]

Overkill

[@tweekedmobb1789]

so this was the same rehearsal session as the demo of ceremony?

[@minimaster197]

Yes, the last ever Joy Division session I believe, Ian killed himself 4 days later

[@tweekedmobb1789]

@@minimaster197 luvsux

[@liselottefrejdig1112]

There is an outtake of this on the Heart And Soul box. Not the whole song..

[@jumofi]

Ian was really depressed those days. Impressive nobody had not noticed that.

[@kwizzeh]

Depressed people are really good at hiding it.

[@eumeswil5672]

4:45 German (Imperial Austrian) anthem refrain

[@LaraMiiiaaauuu]

This is so angelic i feel like an knight rn yall dont know

[@Neptunelady111]

The hangman lyric is a decision he had made

[@Neptunelady111]

[@Neptunelady111]

It’s all haunted, it a ritual, it’s something fragile and it feels like a stone grip. the band was then attempting to confront the windows into Ian’s pain that they’d just gained access too. I know Barney describes writing this song and ceremony as an effort to heal Ian. I feel like because the shadow was out of ian’s bag, and he knew he wasn’t gonna be stopped, he then felt free to express his demons in a blaring statement. Cause he knew to himself that they had already won

[@zorbzod6475]

@@Neptunelady111 The last two tracks on Closer reflect a similar sensibility.

[@jumofi]

Who was playing melodica? Ian?

[@daedvaet]

realmente esto es una locura

[@caivsivlivs]

how you get master or low gen reel-to-reel versions?

[@bolzonigiorgio8116]

Perhaps it is only a feeling, but this track has something in similar with the mood of the album pornography of the Cure made years after. Is the first time I hear this version and is really very emotional. Yes how should have been JD third album? This question is haunting me from alredy more than 40 yers.

[@tweekedmobb1789]

r.i.p.ian

[@heathgerber800]

Take 4 is frightening

[@wilhelmscream3813]

Any chance of you doing the same to Ceramony?

[@HWGuy1337]

Can u share mp3 please?

[@salmonhauser7803]

3:22 for nut

[@Nominay]

Anyone know when this picture is from?

[@steve261brown]

Ask KC.

[@domskilamonski6092]

taken in their rehearsal room,tj davidsons is the name....in '79,don't know the exact date but if you go to joy division central,you'll find any info you'te seeking.

[@martynjones8560]

The darkest song ever.

[@anotherboredgenius283]

who's playing keys on in a lonely place? it's like they knew they would eventually need a gillian... spooky.

[@PM-xt4zi]

Wtf are you babbling about, Barney played keys and Ian filled in on guitar when necessary.

[@arcrs40]

likeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@smayit9436]

[@attackinberlin5895]

65st

[@rederickfroders1978]

Jesus....

[@ProjectFlashlight612]

"Hey fellas. Gotta say, our seriously gifted cash cow is _really_ signalling hard that he wants to kill himself. This song kind of screams that at deafening volume. Should we pay attention to it, and save our friend? Nahhhh, it'll be fine."

[@kristianTV1974]

They've explained this so many times. The music might have sounded depressing, but in general they all had a laugh and a good time. Also, they were young and people didn't talk about mental health at the time.

[@angelofdeath2898]

this moron think they got any idea of his emotional problems like they were psychologists analyzing him, depression can pass like a silent enemy all your life an he could have spent his whole life hiding it like he was wearing a mask every day just because maybe he was worried that they would see him feel bad and have no idea how to help him,that's why he preferred to express it artistically through this music. that in the end maybe it was his only way out to make his feelings evident, but keep writing without having any idea blaming them for nothing.

[@coloradoing9172]

What an embarrassingly bad take.

[@oystermouth1971]

@@coloradoing9172He had already attempted an overdose on April 8th. He had people standing in for him at gigs. The guy clearly needed more help than he was getting, so obvious. The selfish pursuit of fame & fortune by the rest of the JD entourage helped seal his fate.

[@standartenfuhrer3199]

First

[@jebdunkins6796]

Second

[@TheArpomni2]

Jeb Dunkins third

[@28toxicdavid38]

What's with the nazi pfp

[@tomo366]

@@28toxicdavid38 who

[@28toxicdavid38]

@@tomo366 shut up was never talking to you If you do the who asked thing you aren't funny and that joke died like 4 months ago.

[@maddyboombaddybaddy6532]

I thought bush wrote this for the crow: city of angels soundtrack. I had no idea it was a cover...this original isnt as good though. Props to bush for keeping the memory of Ian's life alive and remembered.

[@davidrivera1969dr]

You obviously never listened to 80's music.

[@leonardocarneiro9520]

You must be kidding me

[@MisAnnThorpe]

I've never heard Bush's cover... and I never want to!

[@maddyboombaddybaddy6532]

@@MisAnnThorpe well ok. Maybe the instrumental.

[@maddyboombaddybaddy6532]

@@leonardocarneiro9520 i dont remember any of this. I got hacked.

[@2kerosene]

they should remaster the ians vocals onto the new order song

[@steve261brown]

Why?

[@LWYRUP05]

Just leave it as it is