Joyful Chaos with Aquinas (Mother Natalia & Shayne Smith)

[@pintswithaquinas]

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[@RachelG-d6d]

Shayne always put a smile on my face. Love this trio and all the insights/personalities coming together.

[@adamo80nine]

Months ago I was finding my way back to Christianity when I saw Shayne's testimony. Growing up in an Italian Roman Catholic family, it's always been around but I definitely strayed away for a while. When I saw Shayne's interviews I felt like I connected with him, being heavily tattooed and into a lot of the same things. It made it a lot easier to make the decision to come back and continue to let the lord lead me in the right direction. Thanks brother. 🙏🏼🙌🏼🤲🏼

[@mfamich5563]

Beautiful to hear!

[@fredleonori8412]

Welcome back brother

[@Juliannarvivas]

I click so fast every time I see mother Natalia, I love seeing her as a guest 🫶🏻💕

[@LoveeeeelyM]

You’re so pretty. Jesus loves you 🫶🏻 💛🌻

[@cassandraduran811]

It's such a good episode!

[@olgacaceres8086]

@@Juliannarvivas SAME!!!

[@AaronGrosch29]

Not me quietly weeping at the idea of "We need to accept everything as from the hand of the Lord...including ourselves." Not celebrating those sinful or broken parts, but in the same way as I endeavor to accept life's events, I need to accept my self, what I am now by grace, as from the Lord. Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me. Thank you guys for this conversation. 🙏

[@mariannastevenson9974]

@@AaronGrosch29 Yes! This made me weep tears of joy. Thank you!

[@LoveeeeelyM]

Me too! 🥹🫶🏻

[@minidriver9344]

So, tbh, I've seen about 10 Matt Fradd podcasts so far, but none by choice. They've all been instances where I'd fallen asleep watching a KZbin video and woken up 2 hours deep into one of Matt's podcasts. That's also what happened this time, except i had been half-consciosly listening to the podcast in my sleep and incorporating it into my dream. I fully woke up with only 10 or so minutes remaining in the podcast, and i was sooo invested in what Mother Natalia was saying, that i scrolled back the full 3 hours and watched it from the beginning. I find it absolutely fascinating how 3 totally different personality types can create such beautiful harmony and balance of energy. I was particularly impressed with the moment Matt felt compelled to admit he felt he'd embarrassed himself with a comment he'd made to Mother Natalia, and the way she seamlessly and sincerely affirmed his authenticity in mentioning it. Such a beautiful conversation, i will watch it a second time, and share it with friends. Praise God.

[@stufen11]

Mother Natalia, such a gift, such a star.

[@Charlie_alpha_romeo]

A minute in and we are talking about kickflipping nuns I’m so locked in 🤣🤣🤣

[@crisisactor420]

This is one of the realist conversations I've heard on this awesome podcast. No goal, no topic in mind. Starting out talking video games and fun stuff and it just gets deeper and deeper. God bless all of you. Thank you Matt for not editing that part out (what you said wasnt that bad imo, dont worry). I've had a serious issue with running my mouth since I was a kid. When I was a kid, it was funny, and I thought it gained me social points. As an adult working in a professional environment, its difficult. I catch myself saying something stupid all the time. Honestly people probably dont even think about it, but it eats at me. What Mother Natalia said really helped me. I need to think about that for like 48 hours

[@stephencotter538]

@1:46 There's a Catholic skateboard company called motherboards out of Colorado. They sponsor a Catholic monk, and post videos of him absolutely shredding skateparks while in his habit. It's pretty great. Edit: Shayne mentions the company towards the end of the video. Good stuff!

[@buirvin1236]

Oh my goodness, thank you for this info! My husband and I want new boards. I will definitely be checking this out.

[@stephencotter538]

@buirvin1236 They have snowboards, t-shirts, sweatshirts, stickers, and all kinds of miscellaneous stuff and prayer cards. Their graphics are so cool and well done. If I ever have some extra money I will definitely buy a snowboard from them.

[@RollingSherman505]

@@stephencotter538 I am going to learn to snowboard this year (Fingers crossed it goes well) If It does I am totally getting that St. Michael Snowboard!

[@andrewosterloh2244]

The last part of this interview discussing sin is so healing. "...but if the point is simply not sinning, then what you're saying is ... I don't even want to need God. I don't want to need a savior. I want to be able to just get everything right..." I needed to hear that. I get so caught up in the thought of how wretched I am that I forget that the point is not about my perfection (or lack thereof...), but about my relationship with the One who made me and loves me so intimately. Thank you, Sister Natalia, Shayne, Matt, and Josiah for this interview. God bless you all!

[@JohnPaulHare]

I love the part of the conversation about St. Thérèse. What Shayne was saying about her gentleness in spite of her struggles with herself, has been my experience. I never realized how deep my connection to her was until this year, as I've worked on growing my relationship with her. The more I learn about her, the cooler I think she is and the more I love her example of holiness. It's awesome to hear how other people relate to her, and the ways that she's impacted their lives.

[@mercyfaustina22]

I hope she brings you a rose ❤ I've seen this happen to many people!

[@niftyspiffyguy]

Matt taking the time to talk about self awareness was SO good. The segue into accepting one’s self and Shayne with this cherry on the top analogy 48:15 I really appreciated it and the advice on “giving it to the Lord… -what does that even mean?!” 😂 Love y’all

[@mlms4702]

Listened to to the ghost story part breastfeeding in the middle of the night. My husband woke up thinking I was crying because I was trying to stifle my laughter. Thanks for making this late night feeding so enjoyable !

[@katiescibaspeaker]

I TOTALLY played video games with my brother and he kept my controller unplugged.

[@damarispena1113]

Shayne please make cool Catholic themed t-shirts. In the beginning of the school year went to a store with my son, called Zumiez , there T-shirts were so morbid they had some spiritual stuff mixed with images of weed, sexualized women,grim reaper and then a picture of our lady of Guadalupe on a t -shirt. I wish there was cool spiritual images on t shirts that my 15 yrs old can wear as a Mom I would definitely buy it.

[@lindseyavery2533]

Matt- I loved your comment to Mother Natalia about “hiding” behind the habit and your cowboy line to Shane. I laughed out loud, hard at both of those moments. Rejection sensitive dysphoria is a very real thing that comes on quick and stays for Highly Sensitive Personality types- which I firmly believe you likely have and it’s part of what makes your vulnerability so lovely and relatable. Thank you for being so real with your audience! It makes us feel like we’re welcome in the room. ❤❤❤

[@mercyfaustina22]

I LOVED this episode! Shayne brings so much joy to the table, and Mother Natalia, always a winner! I've been discerning asking our new (baby) priest to be my spiritual director. This episode helped me in MY discernment. I always learn so much from your show. Thanks, Matt and Josiah. I love your show.

[@picaronews2888]

What a lovely human being. A sign of God's love and mercy to us all.

[@ShannonStapeOCDS]

Mother Natalia’s speel at the end about sin and Confession is the speech I needed to hear that I didn’t know I needed to hear❤ I could’ve heard her go on for an hour about this subject

[@DinaWeidner]

I love hearing Mother Natalia’s laughing at Shayne Smith’s ghost story. 😂 I love this podcast and your guests are amazing! I really love all of your insights.

[@grunt12394]

This definitely the most Metal episode of Pints With Aquinas so far! 🎸😎🔥 Keep it up Matt!

[@zcuric]

This is pure raw podcasting and I love it :D

[@MB-sb5vh]

I really appreciated the vibe between you guys. Beautiful 🎉. Loved it. Thanks.

[@frjb9392]

Thanks so much Matt, Mother and Shayne 🙏 Would be awesome to have Shayne (and you all) in Melbourne next year for ACYF. Our young people in Australia need to hear Shayne's testimony and comedy, as well as Mother's joy and authenticity. Thank you Matt for your incredible ministry! God Bless + Fr James

[@jimmiferfreddette8583]

I can relate to Shane so much on being on the surface very extroverted, but would love nothing more than to be by myself all the time. my job requires me to be very social and upbeat all day. Many many days feel like nothing but suffering having to be social. But I know it’s good for me and I do it with a smile on my face and I’m glad I do it. I also love daydream. It’s literally my favorite“ hobby” lol long ago, I forced myself to not do it. It can be useful, but it’s mostly an incredible waste of time.

[@sarahschnapf7859]

I cant wait for the interview w Mother Natalia & Shanye. Shayne., come back Shayne🤠 this interview is gonna amazing Matt& Josiah 🎉

[@EmbracingTradition100]

Loved this episode so much! ❤ Mother Natalia is such a gem! Shayne is too but I especially enjoy Mother Natalia 😂 They’re the perfect combo! We need more of these two!

[@dannyd4085]

This will be the BEST podcast ever let’s go! Glory to Jesus Christ!

[@mariannastevenson9974]

Shayne is correct! Our food is filled with chemicals that are banned in other countries. Subway bread is not bread but a cooked yoga mat.

[@ColonialT7]

As he drinks a diet coke

[@mariannastevenson9974]

@ColonialT7 That is funny. I have to listen to this podcast because I am driving and delivering. Thank you for the laugh!

[@ColonialT7]

@@mariannastevenson9974 0:34 😂

[@empackmanmueller1725]

@@mariannastevenson9974 new FDA jfk jr is going to ban alot of the chemicals that are banned in Europe but are used in US foods. European foods are have less chemicals. Hope it happens its so important for our health, body and spiritual being! 🙏

[@mariannastevenson9974]

@@empackmanmueller1725 Yes we need to make America healthy again. It is scary how much science is in our food. I love following the foodbabe. If we eat all we have been given by God...we are restoring our body back to the garden of Eden.❤️🙏🏻

[@evelinmonterroso8723]

Love mother Natalia, today I saw the first interview she did on the podcast and I loved it! ❤

[@Theshadyassassin]

You should ask Mother Natalia what she thinks about the game INDIKA. (About an orthodox nun who confronts the devil, belief, and free will). It’s a super interesting game and has mechanics that involve praying to traverse through the world. It does raise very difficult questions about suffering, hell, and free will. I’d be curious for an eastern Catholic nun to react to it in some way.

[@NotablySped]

I already love Mother Natalia so much, then as one who grew up as a punk rock skater, i have even more love for her. That's so rad lol

[@jaroslawponiatowski1059]

I was listening his testimony and it helped me not to have this kind reaction, how he looks. At the same time this nun is so beautiful and overall they’re beautiful inside because they have freedom in their heart!

[@bethanyspicer1501]

This episode was amazing 😄 watched the whole thing and loved every minute of it

[@mewithoutYou_7]

Great episode! Love to both Mother Natalia and Shayne. Also to you Matt and Josiah ofc

[@vasilysidorenko8821]

Mother Natalia is such a lovely woman, what a joy.

[@shay-car]

Not outing Santa with no warning 😂 Poor unsuspecting child listeners

[@savestheday6648]

Great, laugh out loud episode! Thanks you three.

[@mestredasdesilusoes7639]

I've never commented before, but I'm a few cups of wine in and I've smoked a cigar, and I have to say, I loved this episode. May God bless you three and if you have time pray for me as well

[@mariannastevenson9974]

I was waiting for this show!❤️🙏🏻

[@scopilio13]

the image of shayne busting through a door to escape a demon is infinitely hilarious.

[@drafting5353]

I really like these conversations. The cliche of being broken gets over used too much. We have a fallen nature and sin. Great observation that the devil wants us to see our sin but the devil wants us to get stuck there.

[@rickydangler]

Shaynes letting dog out story as kids was so great

[@iohannesfactotum]

Hooray these two both make me so happy

[@phizzyglitterswirl9251]

This three person format was amazing. Likely best one you have done. Matt +laity+holy orders=dynamite amazing

[@EmilieWinner]

Most underrated moment was Shayne talking about Santa LOL

[@jayna1024]

Shayne makes me laugh so hard pretty quickly 😂🤣

[@Ra20233]

Monastics are amazing people. I went to a Cistercian abbot to get spiritual advice when I was reverting, and now a Carmelite nun is my son's godmother. If you're unsure of monastics, make arrangements to meet with one.

[@razbarry42]

Mother Natalia thank you for your comments starting at 3:07. The point is communion with God not just not sinning and not needing a savoir. You said it much better than I can type.

[@stephencotter538]

What a trio! I love this episode 👍👏

[@backtoashley]

Gosh, this episode was so lovely!

[@BrickTop06]

I'm so old that a "mother" is younger than me. Also, it was wild hearing her talk about legit skate tricks.

[@August__Love]

We need a Thursday/Josiah pod. Loved that trump episode

[@shay-car]

I love Josiah so much. His younger generation meme expertise is so evident on the channel. I love their TikTok reactions. 😂

[@emmafradd]

That was one of my favourite episodes too!

[@Yeoman530]

I like the way you said "Beautifully free". I struggle with this, speaking my mind with limited filter and worrying about how it was interpreted by people later. I think atleast I hope it is okay to speak freely as long as it comes from an innocent heart.

[@whenpiratesattack]

Shayne is in his Frederick Nietchze / Bronson form and I love it.

[@HatWares]

30 minutes in, just freeform chatting! I love it!

[@chaseadams8157]

Shayne, please do a larger run on the shirt you wore this episode. I want one really really bad

[@clintondonald3439]

You are all wonderful❤

[@christourhopepodcast]

St. Therese sends me Roses as well in the oddest of ways. I don't have a particular devotion to her, but my wife's confirmation saint is St. Therese. So I guess when two become one I get her help as well!

[@nickyionta]

Do you know Matt if Shayne has any plans to come to the UK? Love the show.❤

[@erinhoover6621]

I love the three of you together!😍 Great conversation

[@markkristynichols845]

Mother Natalia you were a cheerleader WOOT WOOT, me too, BTW, I’m Kristy, the hubs, Mark, NEVER a cheerleader lol 😂

[@BenjaminOwenSlattery]

The idea that “Santa’s not real” taught me to have a materialist worldview instead of a symbolic, incarnational worldview

[@Mousquetaire-du-Roi]

Shayne AND Mother Natalia ?! What a gift !

[@ewtam24]

Thank you for the fun discussion!

[@roberttoney3929]

I didn’t know Mother Natalia was a skater that’s so coooooool!!!

[@sryxafraidofmonstersx]

easily my favorite guests no offense to all the other great guests and definetly my favorite episode ever

[@lifematterspodcast]

I dig this convo. I must say, that while we should not make striving to overcome our silly quirks and insecurities our central goal (Jesus loves us more for these things), overcoming pron is not something you should surrender to Jesus in the sense that you may never overcome that. That is different. You should confidently trust that you will overcome such a thing, making it a goal to surrender yourself fully to the Blood of Jesus and enter into the Crucifixion in such a way that you are confident you will be delivered and overcome. Part of this is accepting that the desire to have a spouse is a good thing, but giving to our fleshes whom is bad. We must hate that. We must realize that God hates pron and we should not settle for never overcoming that, lest we go to hell. Similar to St. Mark Ji Tianxiang - he had faith he would be delivered and was.

[@brandonblum3629]

Pretty awesome squad here!

[@JuanMartinez-xl2oj]

Where is the other half, I need more Mother Natalia!

[@BibleTales2]

Thanks for the show.

[@August__Love]

“Its YOLO” 😂 😂 😂

[@TheDriveIn.]

About asking God for help and surrendering.. that's the whole reason our faith is counted as righteousness and not our works. Because when we're obsessing over making ourselves better more than we're trusting God with our flaws, we make those issues our God. We make the self our God, as if we think we can strive enough for perfection on our own. So it's our total surrender that is necessary to keep God in His rightful place in our hearts instead of making an idol of our flaws or problems and the things we'd like to change in order to reach our ideal self.

[@gabrielcastaneda2343]

3 ninjas!!! yes best movie from my childhood.

[@56Tyskie]

😂😂😂😂 this was fantastic lol

[@theperfectstormpettit2645]

Funny thing Me and my dog go to the same chiropractor once a week.. my dog slipped disc in back and the vet said he would never walk again well 4 yrs later he's walking.. 1st visit he stood up and walked.. im a believer

[@AndoLaj]

Mother Natalia's camera looks like an A24 film

[@manoftheholyinnocents]

Anyone know the word on why the Sunday videos with Mother Natalia haven't been happening? Was it in anticipation of this episode, or...?

[@LisaM656]

I like you the way that you are ...and all the realness!

[@JohnMartin023]

I also never thought Santa was real. My parents never let us believe that which I’m fine with. It just was funny because they always had to tell me to keep my mouth shut if I heard a kid talking about Santa to not ruin it for them.

[@oceanblue3803]

I BEGGED my husband to NOT do the santa thing. He insisted on it. Christmas is so hard to refocus on what it is really about. I grew up with both parents as alcoholics. So for me, it was ANOTHER BIG FAT LIE!

[@stephencotter538]

At 1 hour and 25 minutes... Made me laugh, I just had a similar situation happen to me. I was asked to speak at this Catholic cursillo related event. I said I couldn't do the date they offered to which they offered me a slew of other dates. I'm married with kids and a full time job and I am already committed to something else that requires sacrificing a lot of my time. I suppose I should have just originally told him that instead of saying I can't do that date. Long story short, it is hard saying no

[@michaelrome3527]

Holy $@!+ I love this 1 minute in!

[@Clokes_]

What a great smile she has 😊

[@MB-sb5vh]

Where's the link for Shane's merch? Also, link for his Ortho friend that sells the Jesus Prayer. Thanks

[@danielblakeney7575]

Honestly, as far as I can remember, and I've watched a good bit of Pints with Aquinas episodes over the years, this conversation above any others has made me want to seriously consider Catholicism. Like to the point where in my mind I'm thinking "Okay, pray and maybe give it a week and then go about doing that." I have a question though of something that Mother Natalia said towards the end about bringing your sin struggles of the mind to God in the moment instead of just storing them up to the confessional. I think I may have been missing her point, it seemed to beautiful, but how does that "State of Grace" transaction work? So for example, let's say I'm catching myself in a sin and I invite Jesus into it to forgive me and help me fight it in order to pursue a closer union with Him, am I still not in a "State of Grace" until bringing it to confession? And if that is the case, am I still in relationship to the Lord Jesus? Do I trust that God is not limited to his means so he still will forgive me in that moment and that then is confirmed in the confession and absolution and when I partake of the Eucharist? But it still might be true in that moment? I think really I'm just misunderstanding how salvation in the Church works in those moments. As a protestant who currently believes in "Sola Fide" and "Sola Gratia" I would say I am forgiven and in God's grace even in those moments of sin that might move me out of a "State of Grace" in a Catholic understanding. I know it's a lot and I'm sorry, but I might just need a clearer understanding of how the sacraments work in regards to what we Protestants call "being saved." It's probably a shift on paradigm.

[@mattmaes]

Why's my dude walking around for like 10 minutes in the background??

[@mancipiachristi9032]

I prefer conversations with purpose rather than random chats filling time... I think it would be good to add the two types in title to differentiate the two types of convos.

[@daltondavidson7997]

Het Matt, don't feel like you have to give every email and comment a holy hour of prayer. If somebody REALLY wants to be on the show and God wants them there, they'll show up in your town and ask you in person.

[@kellyjohnson107]

How about a Pints interview with Shayne and Tommy Greene?

[@adamo80nine]

Where can I get a shirt, Shayne? I can't find it on the Ritual site. I only see the backyard rodeo hat...

[@erock5b]

Santa is real. Ask G. K. Chesterton.

[@REALwarnMPMP]

How much do we need to get Mother Natalia on a skateboard

[@jermainebagnall657]

Maybe put those screen shots together to make a t-shirt? Maybe form a mosiac of your favourite saint? Just tossing it out there!

[@ryanborjas487]

Christ is King!

[@backtoashley]

Shane's so sweet!!!

[@trlevan316]

Shane, if you're not already, please consider youth outreach and ministry.

[@placebo5466]

Mother Natalia skates too? She's definitely cool.

[@mewithoutYou_7]

I love HolyName