BOSS VE-22 - ALL 50 Presets - NO Talking

[@orpheum88]

Just got it. It definitely is all i needed, Compressor, Eq, Desser and bunch of pristine effects. The harmonizer is top notch. I've been searching for something like this for a while with no success (rolands 404mk2, aira, vt, helicon, guitar pedals through a mixer). There are some cons tho: I wish the delay had some parameters to tweak, such as a lowpass filter, or type of delay 1/16, 1/8, etc. couple of reverbs: Ambience and Room have a metallic feel. The looper is ok, but kinda sturdy. Wish there was some kind of glitchy effect as well (but thats maybe asking for too much). This is a solid 8.5/10 for me, the best vocal gear I've been lucky to get ahold of. Can make my vocals sound like they're being played from a DAW. go get it!

[@kevinmarsden8102]

Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Its been really helpful

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

You're very welcome! ☺️

[@DreamscapesMusicCinema]

Good evening! So great to meet you. Thanks so much for this awesome Demo. Super well presented! Have a great weekend. Mark Bensette Aux Bois 🇨🇦.

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Thank you so very much 🙏

[@DreamscapesMusicCinema]

@@JohnPaulMusicUK Absolutely my pleasure John!

[@BibhasMandal73]

Excellent demo for all the effects ,thanks its helpful.

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Glad it was helpful!

[@theleastsignificantbit4794]

Thanks for taking the time to make this. Well done!

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

My pleasure!

[@michaelparadjian2459]

Now thats a good demo

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

That’s funny. Lots of talking on one video and no talking in the next. Hopefully that has evened it out! 🤣

[@niv6924]

Keep up the good content!

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Thanks, will do!

[@JeanPierreBauvois]

Merci pour cette super démo ✌️🎶🎶

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Merci beaucoup 🙏

[@GlennRobert71]

Bee Gees mode in the end.. Loved it! :D

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

🤣

[@odiviney]

Excellent presentation. How can you key change in the middle of a song?

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

You would change presets. So multiple presets per song. 👍🏻

[@kwolitek4785]

Great video, thanks! Question: If you're performing live and use presets 1, 2, and 3 for a song and click up arrow to go from 1 to 2 to 3, is there a way to go directly from 3 back to 1 or do you have to click down arrow twice really fast?

[@petergomeskolkata]

Click down really fast Or save them both in user 1 and 2 so you can switch there fast

[@CNewey2]

Can you show a video with the external footswitches & expression pedals and how they work

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Certainly 👍🏻

[@franzkeller2051]

3:00 Hello from the USA! Can you set a wet/dry balance for this Autotune? (That is - can I hear a mix of my regular voice AND the autotuned one? I often use this feature on my VT4)

[@victorbuentello8538]

In your opinion, what is a better overall pedal if you could only choose one since I need a bit of help in picking one to buy. The Boss VE 20 or VE 22?

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

What’s do you need it to do?

[@lasolution365]

Could you please clarify why the lack of automatic harmony detection with piano or guitar is considered a downside? I'm new to this and trying to figure out if it’s still worth purchasing. I plan to use my piano and acoustic guitar with a Loudbox Mini amp while incorporating a vocal processor for live performances with friends. Would the inability to set the key automatically from my instruments be a significant limitation when playing guitar or piano, or would the vocal harmony features still be sufficient for my needs? Thanks in advance!

[@Brainfreeze128]

I have the boss ve 20. Should i upgrade?

[@daviddesmond2143]

I bought the v 5. Seems the VE22has lots of useless sounds. Prefer mounting on mic stand than reaching down to the floor to make adjustments. Good demo

[@avwamsfl9051]

No talking - Love it - thx!

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Welcome 🙏

[@JeremyDusek]

Love the shirt...

[@goodtimefolkrock]

Hello John Paul .....is the harmony "intelligent " IE: does it track along with key the guitar is in?

[@FarrinD12]

Hey there! Just to chime in, it is not. There is no guitar in for this unit, so you have to set the key manually. Hope that helps!

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Just as Farrin said. No input for instruments. Manual settings for key.

[@jeffbateman2339]

That’s a deal breaker …. Why would they leave that (very important) feature out, when that technology has been around for over a decade…. TC and even Digitech do it very well. Very disappointing

[@robtanner5241]

Boss VE-500 does that. I actually just traded it for the VE-22. I liked being able to plug the guitar in but it's so easy to change the key with the VE-22, I won't miss that feature much and also would say the overall ease of use with the VE-22 is far better and I feel the overall sound is better than the VE-500@@jeffbateman2339

[@orpheum88]

is the looper PRE FX or POST FX? Also is there any kind of "scatter" in there?

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

For the looper, you can do either. You have ‘Perform’ which is post Fx and you have ‘check’ which is pre Fx. Doesn’t look like there is a scatter but there is a ‘slicer’ and you could then all a delay like ping pong or some other timing.

[@orpheum88]

@@JohnPaulMusicUK great! thanks, definitely upgrading asap! Been using my sp404 as a vocal processor but its a hassle tbh.

[@felipebaeza461]

hello! Thank you for your answer about whether you can add different effects on different switches, the truth is that watching the video in the link is still not clear to me. Could you explain how the “assign” menu works and what its function is? thank you so much

[@ynotsplinter9683]

So was there a reverb setting and guitar input,,,,,i will google....i have the tc helicon and its only harmony effects ,,,nothing more ,,,so no comparison,,,this sounds good

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Depends on which TC you have.

[@felipebaeza461]

General question. Can I set 3 different effects one per switch in one memory? Thanks

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Yes and no. You can have different kinds of effects on each pedal. Have a look at this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYHUlpWLgsacoqMsi=U57QEuleGluc0KQ8

[@fernandocesar2605]

Can you connect this pedal with other guitar pedals, like delay, rever and compression?

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

You could with the aux in.. but be careful of dual delay dual reverb and dual compression.

[@fernandocesar2605]

@@JohnPaulMusicUK so basically I would need: -Mic into XLR IN of the boss -XLR/P10 on the OUT of the unit to connect into the IN of the guitar pedals -P10/XLR out of the pedals to connect into a PA Is that right?

[@jasminegonzales6661]

What does the effect button really do? hehe just like doubling the harmony ?

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Depending on the preset, you can have one of the following under the effect button: - Pitch Correction, Short Delay, Chorus, flanger, Phaser, vibrato, Distortion, ring modulation. There are also a couple that are together: - distortion & Chorus, Distortion & flanger, distortion & Phaser. So quite a few to choose from. 👍🏻

[@jasminegonzales6661]

@@JohnPaulMusicUK Thank you so much!

[@sergiojusto1]

😂 estuvo bueno, me divertí y aprendí... Gracias, saludos

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

You are welcome 🙏

[@ardhi1471]

can you demo that distotion preset with full gain?

[@strykermoonfall2220]

Is it good for vocoder?

[@franzkeller2051]

5:09 and, is it easy to switch the note distance of the Pitch Shifting?

[@Elbrandaorecords]

Hello. Have a tap tempo delay button?

[@kessound9424]

Hello, question😁, is it possiblle to lower the leadvoice but not the first ore second in the harmony mode ? , just to sing with someone if you Don’t know how to sing the first Voice ore third . Thnx from the Netherlands 👍

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Yes. Have a look at putting it in manual mode and you can personalise the volumes. Have a look here: kzbin.infoWmEUsQq1cTQ?si=w4RIb9cvIZq_pBoB

[@kessound9424]

@@JohnPaulMusicUK 😀..Thnx Johnpaul. great, your videos are very good and clear, greetings from the Netherlands, kind regards, Kees.

[@kessound9424]

@@JohnPaulMusicUK …I sold my Headrush Core, and today I bought the Boss Giggaster8, this is an all in one device...great, and this after seeing your videos. thnx John….😃🖖. 🎸🎤

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Wow! That’s cool! Thank you 🙏

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

👋

[@jburks376]

Not having MIDI capabilities is such an oversight. If you're in a band playing 40 songs per night, That's a LOT of tap dancing to get to each effect and to change keys. I was really excited for this unit until I found out they left out MIDI in this device. WTF Boss???

[@wumingchen5657]

太爛了

[@PaulHotPants7]

best video

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Thanks 🙏

[@SimplicityForGood]

what is the difference between getting a device like this and continue to learn Logic Pro and do all this in Logic Pro live? I never used a device like this... Only been singing on stage for theatre and chorus... so singing solo and recording at home is totally new to me.. I just bought Logic Pro and see it got all kinds of ways to produce music... But now I have begun looking around KZbin for tools for singers that want to record at home or do live things online or on a street and found this device interesting.. but what is really the difference exactly between working in Logic Pro with all these delays, reverb bad so on, Logic Pro has a live feature compared to getting this device? Can someone technical here help me, who is super anti-technical, to understand the benefits of this and the limitations of this compared to only using Logic Pro and a sound interface, I got the Audient ID 14 mk ll? Someone told me this is only for people that cannot sing or kids that wanna sound like a robot or as if in a phone... but seeing how you and others use this kind of device and also teh old one TC-Helicon Touch 2 and the level people using these sing on, I doubt that these devices are limited to only tone-deaf people and kids... lol.... BUt, as the tech moron I am, please help me understand this device better, they have one in my local store now... shall I get it?!🤪 Shall I who wanna record singing acapella and start to make youtube covers and so on get this? Also wanna do Voice Over acting from home, reading in characters and in the Summer if I can learn to sing a Capella do some street performances... But as said, I got the sound interface Audient id 14 and logic pro and a MacBook... However, this device is interesting to me! thanks!

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Hey 👋 So.. devices like this in general are specifically designed (mainly) for live use, with the idea of using for recording as a secondary function. Imagine a band or a singer who wants controls like echo reverb etc and they don’t want to take a computer out on stage with them. This is why this exists. They plug their mic in, get the sounds the want at home and then then program it up to use live or live streaming. It’s much easier than a computer cause it’s just a small device that can fit into a bag and has the audio interface and the pedals all built into one unit. (Btw, whoever said to you for kids or people who can’t sing.. that’s not true) So.. to be devils advocate here, let’s look at your setup. You could TOTALLY do everything you want to with Logic Pro and the Audient audio interface (Logic Pro on a Mac or iPad btw? Just curious). I would say that maybe further down the road. you might wanna add a pedal like a Bluetooth pedal like an airstep or Boss FS1WL so you can program it up to play or engage sounds on Logic and then, when your confident, you don’t have to have the computer right next to you and use the pedal for play, stop, turn of fx etc. But it’s totally down to you and what you need and what you are using. My honest advice, stop and breathe, take a step back from all the tech (I know right, sounds mad coming from a tech nerd like me 🤣) and just think.. what’s my goal here and then what do I need to accomplish that. Get a piece of paper and pen and draw out your setup and what you want it to do. 👍🏻 If I was you with JUST getting Logic Pro, I would be learning all about that and its capabilities as you have already invested in it. Then if you think you need a pedal, then get it. You can always message me and the community on here to get advice.. they don’t bite. 👍🏻 Hope that helps.

[@SimplicityForGood]

@@JohnPaulMusicUK I see! I had no idea about this. So if I understand you right, one can in Logic Pro use a live function and before one starts change all settings with reverb etc that the Boss device can do, There is no difference in what Logic Pro can do that the Boss device can do, the Logic can then do even more.. But for live usage, they can do the same thing? just that one then needs either to use one computer on stage or find a Bluetooth pedal that then would replace exactly what the Boss VE 22 does just that is connected by Bluetooth to Logic Pro in one computer somewhere on the stage and then would have the same buttons as the Boss device?' am I understanding this right? And the mic would then come from one's computer or from the Bluetooth pedal? I been testing Logic Pro in my MacBook. I do have an old ipad also, but it maybe too old, is from 2016...not sure is that good to handle Logic Pro, but I have not tested it... Thanks for getting back! I am not against Logic Pro, I took like an Intro course for it, I felt some things like the drummer were interesting but there is a lot of things with reverb and EQ that I really did not understand how to control and did not feel I got any good results with it either... Also, my Shure SM 7 B is constantly clipping as soon as I sing a little higher notes and I cannot get a good recording at all... Got a Fethead between the Shure SM 7 B pr I will not hear myself at all in the earphones... but even if the Gain is just at noon on the Audient and middle on the Logic Pro and the volume is a bit about the middle it still clips... I do not know how to stop it from clipping. Had to do an audition the other week, but that did not go well as it clips and my song goes away at high tones and comes back at lower tones again.. so was a total bummer that audition... AM really new to recording from home... Just been singing live in chorus and in theatre on stage before, but never recorded at home... Thanks for getting back, any advice and tricks on what to do with my clipping would be highly appreciated! have a good week! Christoffer

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

@framestomind7548 no. They don’t do the exact same things. Logic is a DAW (digital audio workstation) but it is very versatile and can do many things like record, playback, make songs etc where the VE-22 is a dedicated pedal to do a dedicated job. What I was getting at is that with the equipment you have already, you could achieve an equivalent but that also depends on what sounds you want. For your clipping, you need to look at the gain input and the main output of logic if you are pumping that into somewhere like zoom. Have a look at a few Logic Pro for beginners tutorials as you will find most people will use it in a studio setting (I certainly do). Patrick from @thegaragebandguide is a Jedi with this stuff!

[@SimplicityForGood]

@@JohnPaulMusicUK ok, thanks, will have a look!

[@klinkske]

great video. I prefer you voice with the fx off :D - saves me 300 euro, thx

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Cool, thanks! 🙏 🤩

[@williepurificacion2474]

The effects are good BUT the harmonies are very basic! No possibility to trigger the harmony arrangement by keyboard or guitar for progressive harmony arrangements as for Jazzy songs. There's the advantage of the TC Helicon vocoders!! A pity!

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Yeah a real shame. VE-500 can do this.

[@gibson2623]

Nice :)

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Thanks 😁

[@winnerlawyerpodcast3711]

by listening to this review, when it comes to harmony, reverb and clarity, an old entry level TC Helicon effect can do much better than this

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

That’s fair enough. Down to what you need. 👌

[@thekurdishtapes8317]

These are all effects for Kindergarden music. Aren't there any setting to sound like the likes of ACDC? I was looking for some kind of "Bon Scott" distortioner but all I'm getting is Lala music sounds

[@jefflundgren762]

The presets are not really usable for music...just goofing around...I take the tc helicon harmony singer over this ANYDAY 😢

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

After having it for a little bit of time, I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s really aimed at singers only. Maybe people who want to add a bit of effects without an engineer around. If you want it for anything more then I think that’s why Boss sell the VE-500 which has midi and harmony etc.

[@PRPWR]

No vocal processor to this day impresses me. They all sound so robotic and fake

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Which one from past and present do you think is the best one?

[@PRPWR]

@JohnPaulMusicUK probably what Britney Spears used live. She had a system the ran her signal through gold plates. Super expensive and super complicated. I think at the time it was like 30k.

[@a.ro6]

voice live is more better

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Elaborate on this. 😊

[@abirbhaimusic9740]

Keep your hand away from the harmony.

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

Why what will it do? 🤣 Understood

[@bobbyboyderecords]

Most of these sounds are unusable. Most of them are shit and strange. Most people just want a good preamp, compressor, EQ, reverb, ADT, chorus, delay, (and maybe transparent autotune, auto harmony.)

[@kaywoodparsons5307]

tc helicon is better

[@Keshiaaa]

Except for when you fry it with the wrong power supply and you’re sad forever 😢

[@nurlanjerozy4187]

Which version of Tc Helicon?

[@dakotacurcuma520]

Blablabla,ne vale rien comme le boss20

[@lordjosephleetownley7742]

If you want to actually get sales on these; can I suggest you actually sing something meaningful to demonstrate the correction. I have literally thrown the idea for this piece of equipment in the bin cause you failed to demo sufficiently.

[@RuffisInc]

I personally think he demo’d it very well. Gives a good understanding of the device and effects with fairly simple clean vocals going into the unit. Also A/B’d very well to show what each effect in the presets were doing against the base vocal.