What Algorithms are WORTH Learning?

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J Perm

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@JPerm
@JPerm 5 жыл бұрын
It's worth learning the good cases (but not necessarily all of the cases) of every algorithm set I mentioned! Except: VHLS: don't learn this. ZBLS: only if you plan to learn lots of ZBLL. Any alg set not worth learning by today's standards has been left out of the video.
@trick2stab314
@trick2stab314 5 жыл бұрын
@@YitzharVered dont be so rude he just politely asked
@the1barbarian781
@the1barbarian781 5 жыл бұрын
VHLS: learn sledgehammer EO
@mattia6193
@mattia6193 5 жыл бұрын
@김기성 thanks
@trick2stab314
@trick2stab314 5 жыл бұрын
@김기성 ik but i tried 😔
@adityarajsrivastava6580
@adityarajsrivastava6580 5 жыл бұрын
I made many COLL,Ollcp and verious tricks and algorithms myself. Btw when is Ekka/Orozocco tutorial is coming?
@xXFlojoXx
@xXFlojoXx 5 жыл бұрын
Make a Video in which you give a tier to every Algorithm set
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
Here #1 Roux or CFOP #2 ZZ #3 PETRUS #4 WATERMAN #5 HEISE #6 IDK???!?????
@xXFlojoXx
@xXFlojoXx 5 жыл бұрын
@I Z I don't think there are enough methods to make a tier list
@kugiyasan
@kugiyasan 5 жыл бұрын
@@xXFlojoXx You can if you start to count beginner's method, blockbuilding and computer's methods
@quocanhnguyenle4952
@quocanhnguyenle4952 5 жыл бұрын
Khánh Nam Nguyễn Alg set, not solving method.
@wakkle
@wakkle 4 жыл бұрын
@@xXFlojoXx bro LBL, CFOP, ROUX, ZZ, Petrus, Samsara, Waterman, WaterROUX, Belt, Ribbon, Heise, Snyder, Pochmann, LMCF, etc??
@tnt5fourty
@tnt5fourty 4 жыл бұрын
Me, who only knows 2 look OLL/PLL: Nice
@calebknox6996
@calebknox6996 4 жыл бұрын
Me who is to lazy to learn the last few 2 look algs Dis be wacky
@tnt5fourty
@tnt5fourty 4 жыл бұрын
@Zubeen Bhuiyan OLL not as important as PLL. Im going to finish PLL first. Only have G and N perms left
@tnt5fourty
@tnt5fourty 4 жыл бұрын
Zubeen Bhuiyan No 2 look both when I wrote this.
@charlesplayz9656
@charlesplayz9656 4 жыл бұрын
Same but i do not know 3 g perms yet
@kennytran2860
@kennytran2860 4 жыл бұрын
Same here lol
@EclipsedLuna-cx3ff
@EclipsedLuna-cx3ff 5 жыл бұрын
just learn a couple quintillion algorithms to 1 look the whole cube instead
@trangium
@trangium 5 жыл бұрын
Or be Jack Cai
@qoodles4032
@qoodles4032 5 жыл бұрын
@@trangium And do memo in inspection
@randairp
@randairp 5 жыл бұрын
There actually is an algorithm that cycles through every single cube state exactly once! Performing this is guaranteed to solve the cube eventually.
@andrewsshortanimations7563
@andrewsshortanimations7563 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but in the description of that video it said it was a joke
@randairp
@randairp 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsshortanimations7563 What video?
@RawDiscovery
@RawDiscovery 5 жыл бұрын
How 4 days of planning my first pair has changed cubing for me: i have an interesting story about planning my first pair. I don't really know how to describe this phenomenon I had, but I will try my best. about 4 days ago i actually tried to start planning my first pair, like actually trying. i have been stuck around 15 seconds for months now, and i decided to give it a try. i would take 2 minutes on each scramble just trying to plan out where every piece moved, once i knew where they would all go, i would add an extra move to see how far ahead i could look. I immediately saw a .5-1 second difference. i woke up the next day, not expecting much, and i immediately came back where i left off. I could plan so much further ahead, but i needed about 30 seconds. I was surprised by this, one day made this much of a difference. WHAT REALLY BLEW MY MIND: I am duel color neutral (White and Yellow), but after 3 days of practicing my first pair, I am almost consistently behind 2 seconds on all crosses now. I tried for months to catch up on blue/green/orange/red, and these couple days "Unlocked" something where i can do different crosses easier (I have to attempt to plan first pair or they will be sub-par compared to W/Y.) So in 4 days total, my times have dropped from 15 average to 13.5 average, i broke my pb twice (now 8.63), broke my AO5 with 11.30, broke my AO12 with 12.39, and broke my AO50 with 13.39. If you've managed to read all this, PLEASE PLAN YOUR FIRST PAIR!!!! in DAYS it has improved my solves and i have a higher motivation to improve than ive ever had. I know its difficult, i put it off for so long, but i knew i would never make sub-10 without planning first pair. JUST DO IT!!! bonus notes: acouple days ago i wouldnt even be able to track my second pair, and now i can plan it in my scramble on easy crosses, my biggest struggle is making all the solutions to the cross + 1st f2l into one fluid motion. I cant imagine where ill be months from now. Dont waste your time trying to improve by doing the same thing. PLAN 1ST PAIR. WORK ON 2 SIDED PLL RECOGNITION. BURN EVERY ALGORITHM INTO YOUR BRAIN. and something people dont realize is much easier than you think, LEARN FULL OLL. You will improve so much quicker Thank you for reading EDIT: I just got my first sub-10 average ever. previous best was 10.29 and i got 9.73 today. (July 30, 2021)
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
RawDiscovery tl;dr
@pokeround
@pokeround 4 жыл бұрын
What an impassioned post! I'm still slooow but my cross building is pretty good so I'll give your advice a spin, thanks!
@dermor_
@dermor_ 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, u should have like, at least, 2000 likes
@Stardipped_Paws
@Stardipped_Paws 4 жыл бұрын
I'm new to speedcubing but want to give it a try, so what is planning out your first pair? Is that a pair of algorithms?
@RawDiscovery
@RawDiscovery 4 жыл бұрын
SqUiD BrAiN this youtube channel, J Perm, has a tutorial on planning your first pair. it is a difficult process to get down, and takes quite a bit of intuition. basically, while you are doing your first step, the Cross, you watch and try to plan out where your first corner and edge will be. it is fairly complicated to explain over text but there are plenty of youtube videos over it :) good luck with your cubing process :)
@bodabodaguy3193
@bodabodaguy3193 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing winter variation gave me chills, cuz now I know all of cfop quite well, these are like secret bosses
@rubikscubedude4028
@rubikscubedude4028 5 жыл бұрын
Soon, we will be memorizing algorithm sets for solving the whole cube in one algorithm.
@sword7166
@sword7166 5 жыл бұрын
That would be surprising, considering there's several quintillion possible scrambles
@rubikscubedude4028
@rubikscubedude4028 5 жыл бұрын
@@sword7166 If computers can do it in not even one second, so can we, with practice.
@qoodles4032
@qoodles4032 5 жыл бұрын
@@rubikscubedude4028 practice it then
@ehxtrem5226
@ehxtrem5226 5 жыл бұрын
Rubikscubedude The odds that you get a scramble that you already practice is litteraly 0%
@Andre-he5ly
@Andre-he5ly 5 жыл бұрын
I now im a Lot but a Lot later but as 0% chance of geting a 20 move alg isn't practical
@Cninder
@Cninder 5 жыл бұрын
Agh why is you’re content so good it’s like I can’t stop watching it
@primesmexycakes3428
@primesmexycakes3428 4 жыл бұрын
CinderCubing your
@UnknownRager96
@UnknownRager96 4 жыл бұрын
Nice a cuber and GD player wassup
@ehxtrem5226
@ehxtrem5226 5 жыл бұрын
Imma start learning the 1L4ALAO set of algorithms *1 Look For All Layers At Once* A.K.A. ATPS *All The Possible Scrambles*
@sebastianw.6637
@sebastianw.6637 5 жыл бұрын
U mean 1LAL
@ob3vious
@ob3vious 5 жыл бұрын
Why not call it 1lC (1 look Cube)
@CosmoFusion
@CosmoFusion 4 жыл бұрын
So 49 quintillion algs? Noice
@bibimoni5732
@bibimoni5732 4 жыл бұрын
game-o-mania -1
@filipklominek3527
@filipklominek3527 4 жыл бұрын
F3L
@ShadyHero
@ShadyHero 3 жыл бұрын
"Sexy Sledge" is honestly one of the weirdest cubing terms I've heard
@edwincollison9317
@edwincollison9317 4 ай бұрын
It sounds sexy😂😂
@edwincollison9317
@edwincollison9317 4 ай бұрын
Imagine how my non cubing friends will react when they hear this😂😂😂
@suhaib8361
@suhaib8361 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, J Perm! I literally did the algorithm at the time around 8:09 in the chapter ZB law. And it gave me a J perm! Amazing 😉
@matthebee
@matthebee 2 жыл бұрын
Lucky
@rotgutthebloated4730
@rotgutthebloated4730 5 жыл бұрын
Unbelivable video! It explains all these last layer methods! I never knew anything about them but kept hearing about em all the time.
@MC-nk8wr
@MC-nk8wr 4 жыл бұрын
9:57 look at the boy in the background.
@williamrah5799
@williamrah5799 5 жыл бұрын
Literally the Feliks Zemdegs of tutorials
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
Ironically, feliks do have tutorials ( cubeskills) but not as good as jperm
@boredvideos5616
@boredvideos5616 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Boner solve got 69 likes
@LLawliet-tv9ig
@LLawliet-tv9ig 4 жыл бұрын
I went from Badmephisto, to Cyotheking, to J Perm. Badmephisto's tutorials were revolutionary at the time. Then, Cyotheking took them to another level and added much better video quality. Now, J Perm has dethroned both of them. Cyotheking's tutorials were so good back then when he posted cubing related content consistently. I wish Cyotheking continues his cubing content, but I guess the saying "every journey has an end" applies for anything in life. Luckily, we have J Perm around and he's killing it!!! His content somehow keeps getting better and he always find ways to create original content. As long as J Perm continues his cubing tutorials, I can't see anyone come close to dethroning J Perm at all.....
@hywoncha-music7153
@hywoncha-music7153 5 жыл бұрын
4:44 Here, I just use: (R' U') (R' U') (R' U) (R U R), which is part of one of the U-Perm algs.
@raghavkamath
@raghavkamath 5 жыл бұрын
Hywon Cha - Music me too
@Jordan13579
@Jordan13579 3 жыл бұрын
I use u-perm with M moves
@TinyMaths
@TinyMaths 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. I got my first taste of cubing in 1982 when I was 10/11 years old and Rubix was huge back then. Then I got back into it in 2005 and learned a lot of the algorithms, and even competed here in the UK (in 2012). I've managed sub 30 average, but it has been on the back burner since 2013. I've watched a few of the bigger cubing channels out there in the last few years and I pick up my 3x3 every now and then and cube for a few hours. But lately I've been missing it and now (at 49 years old) I feel like picking it up again and going even deeper with the learning, and aiming for sub 20 at some point. Your video was very inspirational.
@DanTheDudeIsHere
@DanTheDudeIsHere 2 жыл бұрын
Im rooting for you
@Fiberoeatingfiber
@Fiberoeatingfiber 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone realized he spelled Rubik's wrong?
@krosskancelvlogs
@krosskancelvlogs 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fiberoeatingfiber who cares
@Fiberoeatingfiber
@Fiberoeatingfiber 2 жыл бұрын
@@krosskancelvlogs Oh come on! @@
@krosskancelvlogs
@krosskancelvlogs 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fiberoeatingfiber i get it, yeah, he spelled it wrong. i just say that bcz i dont really believe it matters. too many cubers get so upset when someone spells it wrong, and i just think its dumb.
@stepanvalerivich6999
@stepanvalerivich6999 5 жыл бұрын
for BLE, an easy but probably slower alternative is to use an edge commutator, like a U perm. You set up the edge you want to insert to the UF sticker, and bring its slot to the UR sticker, then you can do a u perm with an AUF prior to it, or R2 U' R2 S R2 S' U R2 and undo the set ups
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
Stepan Valerivich wut?
@Tom_Salmon
@Tom_Salmon 5 жыл бұрын
For the second BLE case you showed (where all the OLL pieces are facing up), there's a much shorter alg you can use, although it uses E moves With the slot to your left and edge in front (matching with the centre) do: R' E R U' R' E' R (E moves follow same direction as D moves) You can optionally do u U' for the last E move if you find it suits you better
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Salmon thats the wrong alg
@Tom_Salmon
@Tom_Salmon 5 жыл бұрын
@@khanhnguyennam6007 oh yeah thank you, I swapped the E moves by accident
@RealNaoh
@RealNaoh 4 жыл бұрын
That’s not a very good alg.
@GriffinK10
@GriffinK10 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve contemplated using ELL instead of OLLCP. If you get a regular OLL, just solve the corners and do ELL.
@devanshkandwal2008
@devanshkandwal2008 Жыл бұрын
That is also called ROUX
@ThisIsRust
@ThisIsRust 5 жыл бұрын
before I learned these, I just thought that whatever I did to insert the last F2L and solve the top was merely a convenience. Now i understand I've been using some of these algs without knowing.
@hendy24
@hendy24 3 жыл бұрын
Also a great Subset of ZBLL which is definitely worth it would be 2GLL, so all the ZBLLs that only use R and U moves, and there are 82 Cases. I think it's the only Alg Set that's worth it to learn completely.
@JudeStradtner
@JudeStradtner 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know where I can learn this?
@comp.lex4
@comp.lex4 2 жыл бұрын
​@@JudeStradtner Any ZBLL algorithm site will include all of these algs. I'd recommend that you start by using COLL in your solves, since 2GLL relies on being able to recognize when your corners are permuted (which is what distinguishes 2GLL from the rest of ZBLL); once you're recognizing corner permutation automatically, then I would consider 2GLL, and maybe even the rest of an easy ZBLL set (T or U.) Word of caution: If you get a sune or antisune, DON'T bother with ZB or 2GLL. Just doing the 7 move OLL into whatever PLL you get will be faster 9 times out of 10, and that one time isn't worth the other nine (or the effort that goes into learning the algs). Good luck!
@JudeStradtner
@JudeStradtner 2 жыл бұрын
@@comp.lex4 Thank you so much! How fast would you recommend I be before learning any of this? I currently average 10.4 but I don’t use cross +1.
@comp.lex4
@comp.lex4 2 жыл бұрын
@@JudeStradtner I average 15, probably jumped the gun on some of this haha. But I think you're definitely in a position to benefit. Cross+1 will also probably give you a huge timesave, though, so it's really up to you
@Kyle_The_Cuber
@Kyle_The_Cuber 2 жыл бұрын
When I get a cross case I use COLL (or occasionally one of the few ZBLLs I know) and I can say it’s worth learning and not too difficult to learn if you know CLL on 2x2, I’m about to start learning some winter variation cases
@matthebee
@matthebee 2 жыл бұрын
Hows it goin?
@michaelvernon9459
@michaelvernon9459 4 жыл бұрын
At 5:20 you can do triple sledge!
@cheelive9548
@cheelive9548 4 жыл бұрын
It's a bit slower
@michaelvernon9459
@michaelvernon9459 4 жыл бұрын
@@cheelive9548 yeah
@RealNaoh
@RealNaoh 4 жыл бұрын
Or you could use R2 U2 R2 U’ R2 U’ R2.
@simonb4689
@simonb4689 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Just got back to cubing after 30 years away from the thing as my 6 year old girl showed interest. This video is amazing
@georgeterry1450
@georgeterry1450 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve ended this video for ages as I’m looking at learning some new algorithms thanks again
@asr2009
@asr2009 Жыл бұрын
3:47, a simple case of this is Doing an S(or maybe S') before inserting the pair and the undo the S move
@SaurabhYadav-bd3wq
@SaurabhYadav-bd3wq 4 жыл бұрын
5:24 3x sledge hammer also works
@TripDadLife
@TripDadLife 4 жыл бұрын
Also the 72 cases of TTLL
@RealNaoh
@RealNaoh 4 жыл бұрын
R2 U2 R2 U’ R2 U’ R’ works as well.
@lovepandamazing586
@lovepandamazing586 3 жыл бұрын
I got a car ad before this came on and the first line was: “we are defined by algorithms”
@KenStentiford
@KenStentiford 4 жыл бұрын
I've just learned intuitive f2l and have memorized all 2 looks for the last layer. In a couple of weeks, and have a sub 60 second PB. Then I watch some advance alg videos and ponder my future of cubing 😥
@1piemanpie
@1piemanpie 4 жыл бұрын
oof
@abbe1255
@abbe1255 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t be discouraged. You can get under 15 seconds with a good F2L 2look OLL and full PLL.
@comp.lex4
@comp.lex4 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you're still cubing! Learning algorithms isn't as hard as it gets made out to be- and most of the algs in this video are never really "necessary" until you start breaking the 10 second mark.
@GhostBoiiMusic
@GhostBoiiMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I used to work on navy vessels for a living, and hearing VLS gave me whiplash
@kezangchoden8979
@kezangchoden8979 3 жыл бұрын
Cfop for me is it's C-Cross F-F2L's O-Over P-Powered
@Someonex017
@Someonex017 3 жыл бұрын
Now Someone Needs To Introduce JPLL ( J PERM LAST LAYER )
@gcubing_4064
@gcubing_4064 3 жыл бұрын
Step 1: Pray for last layer skip.
@Someonex017
@Someonex017 3 жыл бұрын
@@gcubing_4064 Step 2: Fail Ridiculously And Get A J Perm
@Humulator
@Humulator Жыл бұрын
I like the OOPS method more
@TripDadLife
@TripDadLife 4 жыл бұрын
5:24 can be solved in one look only 72 algs. It's called TTLL.
@Elrog3
@Elrog3 Жыл бұрын
That's funny. I generated half of those algs (cases with edges phased) and posted it on the speedsolving forum under a different name a year earlier than it says it was proposed on the speedsolving wiki. Nice to know the full set is out there now if I ever decide to get back into cubing.
@x-tremefactory2542
@x-tremefactory2542 2 жыл бұрын
Kociemba method: 1. face of either opposite or same color (red/orange) 2. Orient edges 3. Orient last layer 4. Get all u/D colors on the correct side 5. Double PLL
@comp.lex4
@comp.lex4 2 жыл бұрын
Kociemba's algorithm is a lot more elegant and a lot more complicated than that haha
@sandpiperbf9767
@sandpiperbf9767 Жыл бұрын
ZBLL seems worth learning more and more since edge orientation is a step or substep in Roux, ZZ, and APB, and CFOP even benefits from it
@MeDoMeer
@MeDoMeer 3 жыл бұрын
This. This is what I like to do instead of practising for my calculus exam.
@e-towncuber5522
@e-towncuber5522 5 жыл бұрын
You have amazing videos, also, really concise and easy to understand tutorials
@SuduCuber
@SuduCuber 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@thewotgamer9553
@thewotgamer9553 3 жыл бұрын
In cfop method is like 100 and more algortims that icludes full f2l full OLL and FULL PLL
@stan1slav995
@stan1slav995 5 жыл бұрын
Few decades later: Should you learn full 1LLL (1 look of last layer?)
@aleksinuutila2315
@aleksinuutila2315 5 жыл бұрын
Few centuries later: Should I learn all the 1LF2L algs?
@eerokaartokangas
@eerokaartokangas 5 жыл бұрын
@@aleksinuutila2315 wait is that a real alg set? (btw🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮)
@ericzhu6620
@ericzhu6620 5 жыл бұрын
there are thouthand of algs gor this and it's impossible for normal people to learn
@ericzhu6620
@ericzhu6620 5 жыл бұрын
@Shikhar Tripathi for 1LLL it's just like nearly 4000 or something
@weirdgradientthing7227
@weirdgradientthing7227 5 жыл бұрын
Should you oearn one turn
@Adam-wt5id
@Adam-wt5id Жыл бұрын
I’ve been fidgeting with cubes and solving them since 2007. Im a fast 30-35 second average with beginner method and only just now deciding to learn cfop. Wish me luck
@tageampi2481
@tageampi2481 3 жыл бұрын
1LF2L(1 look F2L)
@landybulky8548
@landybulky8548 2 жыл бұрын
Some people can do it
@anthonycarella1779
@anthonycarella1779 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite cubing video. I've watched this video so many times. If there is any room for a follow up, or a more in depth video, please make it! Edit: Coming here after seeing on Twitter that someone learned 1LLL.
@JudeStradtner
@JudeStradtner 2 жыл бұрын
There are 3 people in the world that have learned full 1LLL.
@edmarter7717
@edmarter7717 2 жыл бұрын
@@JudeStradtner edmarter, him and himself? Lol
@JudeStradtner
@JudeStradtner 2 жыл бұрын
@@edmarter7717 Well hello! Hmm, I though there was somebody else who knew it. Oh, never mind, I was thinking of two other people who know almost all of 1LLL, sorry!
@jimmayinnit
@jimmayinnit Жыл бұрын
wait full 1lll. man that is crazy
@jimmayinnit
@jimmayinnit Жыл бұрын
@@edmarter7717 wait you KNOW 1LLL dude like HOW
@gemgem3280
@gemgem3280 5 жыл бұрын
This video is so helpful! I was just thinking, "OLL literally makes me want to die. SO. MANY. ALGS. What ones are worth learning?" Scans J Perm. "GASP! Found something!" Thank you so much!
@ttiop
@ttiop 5 жыл бұрын
GemGem32 that last part is cringe
@paper2222
@paper2222 4 жыл бұрын
but... these are harder than just oll
@gemgem3280
@gemgem3280 4 жыл бұрын
paper2222 they are, a little bit, but if you have a good understanding of the cube you can do most of it intuitively
@kaz8297
@kaz8297 3 жыл бұрын
It isn’t that hard watch cubeheads video on it
@liamshaw3043
@liamshaw3043 2 жыл бұрын
I use Cfop method mostly Advanced FTL and This helped alot
@juhku2
@juhku2 5 жыл бұрын
COLL, ZZLL and ZBLL are pretty much the only viable ones out of these imo
@rotgutthebloated4730
@rotgutthebloated4730 5 жыл бұрын
What about VLS?
@cheelive9548
@cheelive9548 4 жыл бұрын
@@rotgutthebloated4730 and WV
@cheelive9548
@cheelive9548 4 жыл бұрын
I know it's a part of it
@UnknownRager96
@UnknownRager96 4 жыл бұрын
ZZLL is my FaVoRiTe algorithm set
@comp.lex4
@comp.lex4 2 жыл бұрын
Phasing isn't worth ZZLL, the cases aren't even the better half of ZBLL
@samuelwisniewski3622
@samuelwisniewski3622 5 жыл бұрын
VHLS is worth it if you plan on learning ZBLS. VHLS is bad on its own with regular OLL and better but still pretty bad with COLL. But imo VHLS with ZBLL is actually really good. You don’t have to learn all ZBLS (which I recommend you do if you plan on doing this). ZB method has an average move count of 44, while VH (with ZBLL) is 48. So it’s a good way to start learning ZB
@samuelwisniewski3622
@samuelwisniewski3622 5 жыл бұрын
Today a stated learning VHLS and when I heard you say it was bad i was sad but you never said anything about it with ZBLL so I’m fine
@samuelwisniewski3622
@samuelwisniewski3622 5 жыл бұрын
Also VHLS has only around 20-30 algs
@Elrog3
@Elrog3 Жыл бұрын
ZB averaging 44 moves doesn't add up. I got all these numbers from speedsolving wiki. CFOP averages about 60. PLL averages 11.8. OLL averages 9.7. F2L slot averages 6.7. And throw in 2-ish for AUF's before/after OLL/PLL. So F2L-1 averages about 30 moves. And that would make sense. Cross avg is 6.5. 3 F2L pairs is 20.1. And add in a few AUF's between F2L pairs to line up the cases like the algorithm page for F2L shows. Everything here adds up and is in line with my experience. ZBLL averages 12.08. And F2L - 1 pair being 30 means that AUF's and ZBLS have to have a combined average of 2 moves for the total move of ZB to be 44. And for whatever its worth, the wiki says ZB is 45.43 avg with 48.51 avg using VHLS. And it's creator claims 40! He counted F2L-1 pair as 18.5 moves. I don't know who put the ZB average move count into the wiki or where you got 44 from or what was going through Zbrowski's head, but if I had to guess, the F2L-1 is being counted too low due to being done with blockbuilding techniques. And in a speedsolve where cross + 3 F2L pairs is the go-to, the move count would be more like 52, cutting 8 moves off of standard CFOP.
@AlfredSpeedcuber
@AlfredSpeedcuber 5 жыл бұрын
Wow Anthony Brooks knows thousands of algorithms
@Stabruder
@Stabruder 4 жыл бұрын
Not thousands though
@AlfredSpeedcuber
@AlfredSpeedcuber 4 жыл бұрын
I thought ZBLS is a very huge set and I’m exaggerated
@KnuxMaster368
@KnuxMaster368 4 жыл бұрын
COLL stands for Corners and Orientation Last Layer
@markustopple5723
@markustopple5723 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I have a question about Speedcubes. Is it recommendable to use a cube without lubing it? Or is it necessary to lube a good cube?
@Ethan-ez2ti
@Ethan-ez2ti 5 жыл бұрын
If it is a good speedcube, then it might not need lube but if it is dry or dandy then it will
@alecchapman8635
@alecchapman8635 2 жыл бұрын
Lube also helps it last a lot longer and i recommend cleaninf your cube every now and then
@fakeleons.kennedy501
@fakeleons.kennedy501 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Im confused what I should learn for LL, now I can easily choose it, thank you
@thatcrystalpie
@thatcrystalpie 4 жыл бұрын
I used to think professional cubers would just have to do the whole thing at once
@DJN777_17
@DJN777_17 2 жыл бұрын
Thx Jperm for telling me what alg to do
@Novashi_
@Novashi_ 5 жыл бұрын
Challenger approaching V Perm
@Humulator
@Humulator Жыл бұрын
*Minecraft hypixel bedwars tnt explosion* Has literally nothing to do with ths channel
@aaron28175
@aaron28175 Жыл бұрын
zbll, coll, and winter variation are the most worth it ones
@_thank_you_
@_thank_you_ 5 жыл бұрын
yeah who would avoid learning full oll and use that vhls + coll combo for years?? absolutely not me. nope not at all. i'm not crying.
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
dicxjo wow your that desperate
@BiffHorrific
@BiffHorrific 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing up what these terms mean and what alg set they belong to! 👍
@srikkanth447
@srikkanth447 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats for 175k subs
@some_random_dude13
@some_random_dude13 4 жыл бұрын
I think VHLS is good if you have an L shape on top before the last pair, but honestly that can be done intuitive, so learning it is definitely not worth it
@toastedwheat624
@toastedwheat624 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a tutorial for OMLL? (one move last layer)
@jimmayinnit
@jimmayinnit Жыл бұрын
EASY. CASE WHERE YOU HAVE TO TURN U SIDE CLOCKWISE: U AND COUNTERCLOCKWISE: U'
@dead-scissors
@dead-scissors Жыл бұрын
go to any pll video and skip to the part where he does auf
@Daigun_
@Daigun_ 3 жыл бұрын
My best solve 4.84 I was very happy in that moment and my whole family
@countryballsanimationsandm5362
@countryballsanimationsandm5362 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT thats my pb on 2x2
@mathiasr7602
@mathiasr7602 5 жыл бұрын
Heyyy jperm upload!!
@Jecobe
@Jecobe 5 жыл бұрын
Mathias R you early
@aspect7998
@aspect7998 2 жыл бұрын
Bro thank you so much VLS helped out a lot!
@kaidoescubing3763
@kaidoescubing3763 5 жыл бұрын
The time is 2100: me, yes got my first sub 4, J perm, yes got my first sub 1 Felix, yes got my first sub milo second
@kaz8297
@kaz8297 3 жыл бұрын
felix would be worm food by then. this isnt funny
@uuproverlord8324
@uuproverlord8324 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaz8297 your taking it to seriously
@kaz8297
@kaz8297 2 жыл бұрын
@@uuproverlord8324 problem?
@BuckBS12
@BuckBS12 11 ай бұрын
I use vhls rarely but I honestly think it’s pretty good if learning zbll
@dirp_dcb9531
@dirp_dcb9531 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on how to memorize rare algorithms please (because they never show up and I hesitate to remember the algorithm)
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
Which ones specifically
@thephysicistcuber175
@thephysicistcuber175 5 жыл бұрын
Use.tao yu's alg trainer
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe hes talking bout the ALMIGHTY ZBLL#69
@thephysicistcuber175
@thephysicistcuber175 5 жыл бұрын
@@khanhnguyennam6007 which OCLL set though?
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
Idk
@Technodude69
@Technodude69 2 жыл бұрын
6:40, the edges dont have to be solved, they just have to be oriented
@YouCuberHD
@YouCuberHD 4 жыл бұрын
Me thinking whether I should learn VHLS Also me: only knows 42 OLLs
@TechSupportDave
@TechSupportDave 4 жыл бұрын
@Henry Stilley laughs in not being able to memorise intuitive algorithms... yep that's me right now. i can solve a rubiks cube in under 3 mins no problem but the damned second layer is my worst enemy.
@Stardipped_Paws
@Stardipped_Paws 4 жыл бұрын
Well I use the beginner method right now, with an average of 1:25, but I want to learn to speedcube and get faster. And then I saw all the algorithms you have to memorize, and I'm slowly dying trying to understand
@dawsonfude7118
@dawsonfude7118 4 жыл бұрын
I am working on full pll. I know the feeling.
@RofelDeiparine
@RofelDeiparine Ай бұрын
Your so helpful jperm thanks ❤
@keplercuber9155
@keplercuber9155 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@rahathasan92
@rahathasan92 3 жыл бұрын
outstanding solutions
@Internetpilot
@Internetpilot 5 жыл бұрын
Wait...there's more than 4 algorithms? 🤯
@bowpro6670
@bowpro6670 4 жыл бұрын
Theres more than 800 algorithms including add-ons.
@Stardipped_Paws
@Stardipped_Paws 4 жыл бұрын
So I decided that since school will most likely be online this year, that I would learn or at least try to learn how to speedcube. Man I'm going to drown in all the algorithms!
@Internetpilot
@Internetpilot 4 жыл бұрын
@@bowpro6670 I was being sarcastic... 😏
@Internetpilot
@Internetpilot 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stardipped_Paws to improve beyond my :27 PB using beginner CFOP, I've been trying to move on to advanced. Currently stuck at FTL still getting worse times than with beginner. Everyone tells me I'll get worse times before I get better, but I'm sheesh... I'm really ready for better.
@bowpro6670
@bowpro6670 4 жыл бұрын
@@Internetpilot how long have you been into cubing?
@Kevin-qj7fp
@Kevin-qj7fp 3 жыл бұрын
For last layer solve I do the oll and pll of the yellow cross then oll and pll of the corners.
@thekidos2044
@thekidos2044 4 жыл бұрын
1:10 it just sounds like he’s saying it’s easy to learn 57 long oll algs lol
@kaz8297
@kaz8297 3 жыл бұрын
It is just watch cube heads video on it it makes it seem extremely easy
@comp.lex4
@comp.lex4 2 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised! Most algs can be broken down into short "triggers," and since they each preserve the first two layers, they follow similar patterns a lot of the time.
@torandoescubing
@torandoescubing 2 жыл бұрын
Brooks last edge is also known as autumn Variation
@PrismAnimates
@PrismAnimates 5 жыл бұрын
*J Perm Uploads* Me: *Clicks*
@SuduCuber
@SuduCuber 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
This joke is so overused its not funny anymore
@xp4738
@xp4738 2 жыл бұрын
my algorthim is basically solving f2l and then solving the third layer with beginners alg because im not ready for oll and pll yet
@tmm3623
@tmm3623 5 жыл бұрын
This is how many algorithms J Perm knows I I I V
@giladv6038
@giladv6038 5 жыл бұрын
Jperm knows 2 algs!
@iqbalhakim2658
@iqbalhakim2658 5 жыл бұрын
@@giladv6038 3 by me
@giladv6038
@giladv6038 5 жыл бұрын
Now 6
@kostaskoukos3932
@kostaskoukos3932 5 жыл бұрын
Now 7
@dirp_dcb9531
@dirp_dcb9531 5 жыл бұрын
Stop trying to get free likes, it's stupid
@bertthebotslayer177
@bertthebotslayer177 5 жыл бұрын
you are the best speed cube teacher, i am now at an average of 40 seconds a solve, not that good but still I'm getting faster b cause of you:]
@bertthebotslayer177
@bertthebotslayer177 4 жыл бұрын
@@vemulapalli0091 nice bro my pb is 27 but that was cause I was having a caffeine rush
@grgry06
@grgry06 2 жыл бұрын
Mines at 33 seconds, 29 or less on some rare cases
@krzysztof_jablonski
@krzysztof_jablonski 5 жыл бұрын
JPerm: Talks about OLS and ZBLL 'cause he's a pro. Me: Cringes at 0:26 E-perm.
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
Krzysztof Jabłoński why
@krzysztof_jablonski
@krzysztof_jablonski 5 жыл бұрын
@@khanhnguyennam6007 not my favourite PLL to say the least. I'm still getting lock-ups ~3 in 5 times I try to do it fast, not to mention failing every time I'm getting E-perm in an actual solve. I really suck at it.
@tgwnn
@tgwnn 5 жыл бұрын
@@krzysztof_jablonski try the alternative E perm alg. (F' r U R' U' r' F R) U2 (r U R' U' r' F R F') that is (bowtie OLL) U2 (fat T OLL). I'm sure good cubers can execute the standard E perm faster, but it sounds like you and I both struggled with it, and this alg completely avoids lockups. I never looked back.
@tgwnn
@tgwnn 5 жыл бұрын
@@krzysztof_jablonski you can also do z U2 R2 F (R U R' U') F' R2 U2 but that's super slow.
@dougieh9676
@dougieh9676 3 жыл бұрын
Damn bro. That’s some serious dedication. I only know 2 beginners methods and can figure out 5x5 VERY slowly. Hats off
@ClumsyCuber
@ClumsyCuber 5 жыл бұрын
You have exactly 175k Subscribers when I am making this comment Edit: never mind two more people subbed
@owenevilmakings5433
@owenevilmakings5433 5 жыл бұрын
Clumsy Cuber 55
@trangium
@trangium 5 жыл бұрын
112
@owenevilmakings5433
@owenevilmakings5433 5 жыл бұрын
180
@ClumsyCuber
@ClumsyCuber 5 жыл бұрын
OwenEvilMakings yep
@wild.capy-
@wild.capy- 4 жыл бұрын
Clumsy Cuber hi
@mahaerchugh
@mahaerchugh 3 жыл бұрын
right after i watched this video i got the EXACT SAME 1-look-last-layer case in my next solve
@johannbauer2863
@johannbauer2863 3 жыл бұрын
nice
@markcordingley835
@markcordingley835 5 жыл бұрын
No views but 9 comments. Well done KZbin. Let's get a round of applause people.
@elanadeshina7521
@elanadeshina7521 5 жыл бұрын
coaster 10110 seriously
@elanadeshina7521
@elanadeshina7521 5 жыл бұрын
coaster 10110 i was agreeing with you bud
@mariowang9359
@mariowang9359 2 жыл бұрын
First time In years that I'm excited for learning, incredible
@adamcheung7284
@adamcheung7284 5 жыл бұрын
What about the 43 quintillion one look crossf2lollpll algorithms?
@sebastianw.6637
@sebastianw.6637 5 жыл бұрын
U mean 1LAL 1 Look All Layers
@radin_mammudu
@radin_mammudu 3 жыл бұрын
DO FMC solution in inspection
@wangfps
@wangfps 3 жыл бұрын
Why am I watching this I average 20
@ASE_Ridern123
@ASE_Ridern123 7 ай бұрын
Why am I watching this I average 30
@ibrahimismail5625
@ibrahimismail5625 7 ай бұрын
Why am i watching this i avarage 1 min​@@ASE_Ridern123
@Loopdyloop_Caosters
@Loopdyloop_Caosters 6 ай бұрын
Why am I watching this I average 10
@spektator5418
@spektator5418 6 ай бұрын
I avarage 20 and use the ZB method (no sune/antisune), you can learn algorithms early if you want
@dark_holiday2
@dark_holiday2 6 ай бұрын
Sheeeesh man​@@spektator5418
@Stabruder
@Stabruder 4 жыл бұрын
I know already a large chunk of COLL WV VLS and ZBLS
@jakobkrajnc3445
@jakobkrajnc3445 5 жыл бұрын
will you review the yuxin little magic 4x4 m beacuse i need to know if its better than wuque🤷‍♂️
@Cranbearry_YouTube
@Cranbearry_YouTube 4 жыл бұрын
OLL & PLL solve the last layer in 2 algs... that is pretty OP!
@abdullahabuatlacsamanjr8920
@abdullahabuatlacsamanjr8920 Жыл бұрын
you should make an All OLS algorithms for cubes who already know OLL and PLL algorithms, it'd be a huge step forward to us, my current average is 18 sec
@cubesquad
@cubesquad Жыл бұрын
No one is gonna use full OLS there is over 800 algs
@aleksinuutila2315
@aleksinuutila2315 5 жыл бұрын
In the first VHLS case M'URU'r' is usually faster and more fingertrick friendly in my opinion.
@khanhnguyennam6007
@khanhnguyennam6007 5 жыл бұрын
Aleksi Nuutila no
@istiakahmed5399
@istiakahmed5399 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on 'Pyraminx Advanced Method' with all algorithms
@angel_withaflamethrower
@angel_withaflamethrower Жыл бұрын
9:12 bro i did not know that f2l trick holy crap, I struggle with that alot
@dogeboi702
@dogeboi702 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh jperm is my fav cus it easy
@blockyboxhead
@blockyboxhead 2 жыл бұрын
OLS is Orientation of the Last Layer Last Slot
@premkumar-hu2oe
@premkumar-hu2oe 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on getting 401k subscribes
@thereverselegacy
@thereverselegacy 4 жыл бұрын
I congratulated myself for learning full oll and pll but I realized I am only on step 1
@DeepDarkMysteries
@DeepDarkMysteries 5 жыл бұрын
Good video idea!
@BrandonNunez
@BrandonNunez 5 жыл бұрын
All you need is oll, pll, and big cube l2e algs
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