The ASTRONOMICAL Cost of a Cirrus Parachute Replacement! (12 Month Nightmare)

[@Muadib223]

Thanks for reminding me why I no longer own an airplane... They don't $100 - $200 you to death, they $10,000 - $20,000 you to death... These days I rent / lease when I need an aircraft for travel and I let someone else pay for the squawks...

[@mrsaskriders]

Squawk 7700

[@OldGlaseye-gf7si]

Yup, if it flys, floats or f___, cheaper to rent.

[@mhughes1160]

Actual cost is $2500 for the parts and labor $25,000 for the liability and insurance on the parts and labor . LoL 😂

[@Georgiagreen317]

You pay for the squawks one way or the other. I used to rent Bonanza's and the rates covered all the costs. (Little else) But you are absolutely correct about all of the rest. As the saying in aviation goes; It if flies, floats or f****s, rent it!

[@lmm.5619]

no one cares

[@jessgypin-ko5ds]

Dude, you need to have someone show you the right way to belt in! Look at yours then look at you CFI!

[@bobninemire6859]

He doesn't need a seatbelt. He has a parachute ....LOL

[@briantii]

Yep! Having the belt up that high is extremely dangerous.

[@duanekauffman1818]

lol do you think the seat belt was an accident, more posts more money. 😂

[@bobninemire6859]

@@duanekauffman1818 good analogy

[@rogercranwill5029]

As you’ve said to me…Boo Hoo!

[@christianjforbes]

The more I hear of these repair prices, I’m glad I chose experimental

[@noyoucanthavemyhandle]

Thanks for putting links in the description to the past vids. Alot of youtubers don't and it's frustrating.

[@JRAviation]

No problem 👍

[@SuperGlenn1966]

Check your seatbelt. You’re wearing it wrong.

[@777CaptMark]

The buckle does not go over your sternum. What could possibly go wrong?

[@32SQUID]

How?

[@FlyingNDriving]

Can't even have the instructor comfortable enough to correct him, what's going on in there with the cameras off! That's the most obvious and first thing when you brief a passenger(because let's face it, that's what JR is)

[@mikeryan6277]

I would remind the people in the comments that are being tough on this guy that it is his journey and he can be a student as long as he likes. In my opinion he is a very knowledgeable student, how is that ever a bad thing?

[@alexmikhael5061]

NOT TO MENTION THE AMOUNT OF ATTENTION HE IS DRAWING TO ''CHEEP CERRIUS DEEALS AIN'T SO CHEEP LOOK HERE!!!!!'' awareness campaign..... cuz there sure are quite a few of them commin up on that problem, and well I hope they can make it better without requireing DEPOWER OF THE PROPELLENT (removal) and deactivation of the parachute, but.... that should be an optionable waiver... sigh

[@jeffh5903]

That Cirrus at 24:33…I was on the Regal Princess on the one year anniversary of that plane going down in the Turks and Caicos. The Regal Princess was the closest vessel to the site and rescued the two pilots. They invited them back one year later for a free cruise to celebrate the rescue. The pilots conducted a Q and A during the cruise. Sadly, the airplane sank in almost 20,000 feet of water.

[@kdhander]

Enjoying your videos, and I can state that I will probably never own an airplane as I don’t have any money to show! OUCH! Really appreciate you breaking everything down, you learned a lot and I have as well. You never know what you’re getting into until you actually crack the nut. Some are good, some not so good. Keep the airspeed up and finish your license (if you haven’t already).

[@VillageWealthAviation]

I went thru the same thing with an old Cessna.... I totally get it. The good news is for me the cost is beginning to drop dramatically. Hang in there!

[@tomarmstrong1281]

I once heard that owning a sailboat is like standing in the shower tearing up dollar bills. Owning a light aircraft had the possibility to empty your bank balance quicker than you can replenish the funds. If it floats or fly's perhaps best to just rent if funds are a thing.

[@mikeraphael9021]

Used to own a 40' twin diesel sportfisher (BOAT= Break Out Another Thousand). Depends on the GA aircraft obviously- but anything of recent vintage and the associated maintenance, storage/hangar costs makes what I used to spend on boats look like pocket change. What's a new 172 these days- close to a mil decked out?

[@tomarmstrong1281]

@@mikeraphael9021 I know nothing about boat owning. But at one point I had a part share in a glider. If you choose the syndicate carefully, it spreads the costs and can be a good deal. Worked well for me.

[@bridgetstoli2347]

My sailboat costs me less upkeep than my car. I do my own work and I moor her in the river for free.

[@nhojcam]

And this is one of the primary reasons why GA is not attractive to most people. Patchwork planes, such as this one, are just not affordable to keep in the air. If you want a new cirrus, that'll set you back about a million, and in 5 or 6 years when "things start needing to be replaced," people dump them. My brother-in-law had a G6 SR22T for about 4 years (bought it new), and peddled it for a sizeable loss for this reason. Those few cross-country trips he made in it cost him about $20k each time. He could have chartered a G650 for that kind of money. GA is just a non-starter for most people. Sure, it's cool to be a pilot and all, but....

[@savethedeveloper]

having to cut and repaint fiberglass as part of ongoing maintenance is peak US engineering

[@ryanthomas2472]

That was only in the first gen. Cirrus didn't plan that far ahead because they didn't even know they would still be in business.

[@GenoSalvati]

@@ryanthomas2472 Number one rule of business - plan to stay in business.

[@mixter7x7]

We do Cirrus repacks .Your price is right in line with ours. We'd have charged you another $2500 for the annual + squawks/ repairs I've done a lot of gen 1's and yes it includes the paint work. You made it a lot easier for the painter when you replaced the decals instead of having to mask and blend around them. If this is your second parachute pack - the aircraft has been sitting around for quite a while. 3-6 months is currently the normal lead time to get parachutes and rockets. $15,000 down / deposit is the norm. Yours is an old gen 1 s/n that I don't believe had #2 battery. They add-on the #2 aux battery so the bus stays alive long enough to get your parachute out in case of a main bus failure. Pretty sure you have a vacuum pump. I don't have my manuals with me. Yes , the initial vendor making the firing mechanism stopped making them. Thus - the S.B. upgrade is necessary to install a whole new wiring harness from the fwd to the rear bulkhead that provides BOTH primary power to the firing solenoid AND #2 battery power . There should also be a lightning protection ground / shield installed to prevent static initiated deployment while in electrical storms. Yes - there's some wiring mods that go through the fwd bulkhead connector into the MCU as well. There are also mods required inside the original MCU 's It seems strange the parachutes an rockets exp at 10 years but the line cutters are due at 6. You'd think they would go 5/10 - 5/10 So - you put the aircraft down or a repack but you didn't do the annual at the same time ? Let the haters hate. Did you really ? As a well seasoned mechanic - I'll just say - I never changed SO MANY cylinders as when these people started going " lean past peak ". I have put SO MANY engines on aircraft and then changed them for overhaul having never replaced a cylinder in over 2000 hrs. ONLY since the lean past peak ideology arose have I replaced so many full 6 pack top ends and individual cylinders. Begging the question - Which is more economical ? A few gallons of fuel or cylinder replacements? Asking for a friend.

[@JRAviation]

Wow, thank you for the very insightful comment. You really know your stuff. I’m happy everything is done now, but boy did that take a long time and a lot of money.

[@moseskelly2886]

I'm extremely stoked on the edge of my seat to see this plane be completely ready to hit the skies. I mean like you were saying, there has been quite literally soooo much that had gone into this aircraft. I'm pumped up to see that the parachute is packed and ready to go. One thing for sure is that it took patients and tons of it. This battle will be won, they try to keep it on the ground but ladies & gents it will be in the air before you know it. Ps. I have to admit having to choose between a brand new decked out SR-22T or five not so new SR-20s. That is quite honestly a tough choice tbh. I like Cirrus aircraft, the parachute deal can be frustrating at times. Their idea is that it's a safety feature. The parts for them is another thing. I know lots of other aircraft might be tempting to get first.

[@CrashTestPilot]

Man, I'd just like to be able to find an affordable 172 again.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Annual costs have gone up and parts too, but not a ton in the last 20 years.

[@deltaskyhawk]

Good luck!

[@YIFly]

Love your program. Love what Cirrus does. I wouldn’t own a Cirrus SR20. I would use xplane and get used to the technology and rent it for the cost of owner insurance, engine reserve, parachute reserve, etc. or I would get a DA40 that will lose less FPM with an engine failure than a parachute descent. The selling point is it definitely saves lives but Diamond has the best safety record. For me, my Piper Dakota is just fine. But Cirrus and Diamonds are great!

[@briantii]

The big advantage to any Cirrus that most people fail to consider is the cabin. It’s crazy roomy compared to most. Even the back seat has a lot of room.

[@Lucas_ontwo]

Bang saw this on insta and knew it was coming today! Love this plane boys

[@barrywood5357]

Its nice to see the cirrus in the air and not just a ramp queen Nice one JR NEXT

[@Ryanmason96]

We need longer videos ! Keep up the good work !

[@lindamendez5641]

When are you guys getting your pilot license?

[@oisiaa]

GA is on a death spiral. It's far too expensive.

[@socalfun64]

This Country is jam packed with People who have more money than they know what to do with.

[@AlbertHess-xy7ky]

Not any more than it use to be, minus the performance, the air conditioning , the avionics and parachutes.

[@bocefusmurica4340]

Just like the USA.

[@XX-166]

@@bocefusmurica4340feel free to move elsewhere and don’t let the doorknob hit you on the way out.

[@airops423]

Come to the experimental world!

[@Russell9778]

Love the content....I know you are busy....wish you could upload more often....very inspiring.... .

[@bobwright5557]

Cirrus is an awesome aircraft! There is a reason why they are delivering ten to twelve new ones per week with a two and a half year wait! And that is just the piston models. Is it worth the money for the chute? What is your life and the lives of your family and friends worth? Most normal people would say priceless. So if you ever need it and lives are saved, I would say it’s cheap insurance! Proof is in the facts with hundreds of lives saved since 1999 with introduction of the first SR20s. Yes I’m a Cirrus guy and a BRS guy. Model year 2,000 G1 SR 20 that I have owned for nearly 20 years. Last chute was $18k but that was a few years ago and we all know what inflation has done to prices. Ignore the naysayers, most are just jealous as they cry about the cost and weight of the CAPS and say they will just land if something goes wrong. Yes that is what you do if you can. But after that mid air collision in the pattern of your little airport and a wing is missing, you’ll be glad you have the chute! Yes, priceless!! Your SR20 may need a little TLC as most 25 year old aircraft do, but it is still a great flying, economical as they come, awesome airplane! Shine it up, learn it well, be safe, and have fun!

[@BrianGochnauer]

I agree the parachute and Cirrus prices make it sure that I'll never buy a Cirrus.

[@goodkid6247]

Its funny how JR cant fly by himself yet, its hilarious seeing his CFI doing everything for him

[@Mattblackaviation787]

Yea but the experience he’s getting is incredible

[@bfox89]

Im thinking the same thing....

[@alexmonroe3111]

@@bfox89 very costly though.

[@danielreuter2565]

​@@Mattblackaviation787watching someone do something is far less valuable than trying to do it yourself and learning from your mistakes

[@Mattblackaviation787]

@@danielreuter2565 Of course. I’m just saying that it’s valuable experience even if he’s not acting as PIC.

[@Georgiagreen317]

I never was a Cirrus fan but I do see the attractions. I would think it would have been wise to have that FBO throw in an annual at the time being it was laid up so long. Also, with the lean of peak thing, you save very little as your TAS really suffers. Running a 300+ HP IO 550 and getting only 140 Kts true is nothing to write home about. Aircraft are time machines, not fuel saving devices. IMHO. But thanks for the honesty and the great video. But I'm afraid it once again proves GA and private aircraft are strictly for the well to do. I know it kept my pockets empty for over thirty years.

[@williambeatty7781]

His plane is a SR20 with a IO-360 making 200 hp. At lean of peak getting 140 kt is very good for that airplane.

[@jasonaircaft]

As a student owner of so many different aircraft, is there any one type you have enjoyed the most to fly and own? Your videos are diverse and show so many types, there must be one you especially love or enjoy flying.

[@zoe..d]

Fascinating video stabilisation on the landing... the instrument panel is pretty rock solid when rolling along the ground after touchdown, but the soft touch keys around the avidyne bezel and floating and bouncing like mad. Must have to do with the refresh rate of the lighting....

[@tallishyeti2756]

Jason from rebuild rescue is quaking in his boots

[@beefmalone]

I'd HIGHLY recommend you invest in a few extra GoPros and mounts so you can get all your video angles covered without being distracted from having to do any filming by hand. That will let you take advantage of all the time you're spending with a CFI who could be helping you do everything yourself, building experience, learning, etc. This morning basement with more than pay for itself in less time needed for training on your way to your license.

[@MrLinusunil]

definitely agree on the fixed cameras. handling camera work while flying has lead to numerous GA accidents - granted, they're 1 person flying and 1 person filming so the risk isn't very high here. still a good investment in the future

[@Soldierboy1986]

Parachutes have proven to save lives, and mitigate damage, and that’s enough for me! If you require more than that, I don’t know what to tell you.😮

[@dennisnbrown]

If you look up crash data for these airplanes, most of the fatalities happen in the pattern at low level, where the parachute does no good

[@robstanton9215]

Everyone is a critic, yet we’re all watching you live your dream. Wear your seatbelt any damn way you want to! It’s your airplane! 🤠👍

[@reyesben]

There is that funny guy, comedian, professional, instructor, dude, that has a great method for remembering cloud clearances. He organizes it into a triangle.

[@aldohattonduran5227]

As always the best 🏆🥇🛫✈️ vídeos ty

[@neuropilot7310]

Look on the birght side, at least they are not Martin-Baker ejection seats, they cost $100k+ (I've heard $200k+) each to overhaul, getting pyrotechnics replaced, and repack the chutes, and seatpan survival equipment.

[@MartyBecker]

Wow, the snow had me look up the flight; 27 March 2024. The aircraft has not flown since 24 May 2024; more problems ???

[@uncletom1986]

Good thing it will be down for the annual then in the summer

[@larryweitzman5163]

Jeff, Not to much discussion on the overreliance of BRS systems, the lack of better decision making when flying and the lessening of emergency piloting skills, consequently I'm not a huge fan of BRS, the cost, weight, and rising insurance costs as a result. It would be interesting to learn if BRS has contributined to a rise in hull insurance rates. Also it takes good judgement on when to pull the BRS.

[@braedenparrett2956]

The editor on these videos deserves kudos. Kudos to you for always making me laugh with the movie clips!!!

[@paulstansfield8693]

I have a love hate relationship with Cirrus. They are in my opinion a perfect all round package, for the owner/pilot. As each generation comes out, they continue to reinvest in the next model/generation, don’t know of any other aircraft manufacturer show so much innovation. Obviously this rolls down to the customer regardless of the model. Cirrus tax, what a great place to be for Cirrus

[@andycampbell5491]

good advice on engine management. i also have an IO540 and i am anal in leaning to LOP. I run mine at -50 to -60 LOP anywhere between 50-70%. 10-14.5usg/hr and 135 to 160TAS I have a friend who bought that old, cheap SR which needed so much work it was AOG for the best part of a year. i know the parachute alone was over £10,000. unfortunately, after the work was done and during a ground run, the prop was dubiously damaged. more months off line whilst they waited for a new wooden prop. oh yes, she also had an avionics upgrade. can't imagine she got much change from £100K...yikes! i'll stick with my 2006 PA32R Saratoga.

[@MrLinusunil]

I don't get why people keep complaining you can't fly yourself. 1) it looks like you're working on it(?) and more importantly, 2) you're doing the business - who says you need to be able to fly the planes yourself. I guess it's just the jealousy. Keep it up!

[@user-od9iz9cv1w]

I get that different people have different interests. They seem to like planes and owning a fleet but limited interest in being a pilot. Not for me. I would want the challenge of being the pilot and that means let me have the controls and beat me up when I make a mistake. I think you have to jump right in if you are going to learn. Once you are an experienced pilot, it is fine if you want to hire someone else to do the work while you effectively sit in the back and work on your other business. By the same token I drive the car. I don't enjoy being the passenger. My wife never got a drivers license and had no interest. To her it was why bother when you're there to do it for me. Something I do not understand. Whether it is a car, motorcycle or boat. Let me experience the thrill of this machine as an extension of my mind.

[@16-BITFPV]

It's BotTube, people who will never and have never flown in their entire lives are the only ones complaining.

[@Democrazyandfreespeechfirst]

I think, by this time they messing around with airplanes, it could be easily done, making their license. When I see his flying skills in the videos, I don’t see much progress. So he is not really highly motivated to be a pilot. Of course that’s curious. They do business and youTube with airplanes and don’t make it to be pilots. Strange. I would get in progress, getting it done for sure. Their interest is business and selling airplanes and make youTube money and content out of it. In over three years they couldn’t find a way at least to solo. Ridiculous. Sorry.

[@user-od9iz9cv1w]

@@Democrazyandfreespeechfirst I will say it is cool that they are interested in the maintenance and upkeep of their assets whether it be cars or planes. It makes the KZbin stuff interesting. Just weird that they have so little interest in flying. Most people want to learn to fly and are limited by the cost of owning/renting a plane. Imagine if they had to hire a driver any time they wanted to go for a ride in one of their 30 cars.

[@Democrazyandfreespeechfirst]

@@user-od9iz9cv1w the JR show must go on. That’s the point of it. I guess.

[@johnmerriman9355]

As the airplane had not flown since Annual; I would've asked John to update the Annual. I stopped doing G1 CAPS replacements after the first two, was easier to deny the revenue than explaining costs to the owner.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

wow, a reference to Savvy Aviation, bravo!

[@amtpdb1]

When I got checked out in a 182 I was told to leave the prop forward as the gas was included in the rental and leaving power and prop forward would get me there fastest and would cost me the least. I guess things are different if you own it!

[@user-od9iz9cv1w]

The parachute is a cool idea and might be worth the expense for peace of mind. I think I'd look at how many people have been saved by it and question if it is really worth it. It is the parts issue that would eliminate Cirrus for me. Annuals are a fact of life, but unpredictable delays are not something I would tolerate.

[@susansticazsky9787]

Congrats that sounds like a great deal! 😂

[@bbutcher112]

You may complain I would still love to have that or any aircraft! It would just be nice to exercise my ppl again!!

[@stang10189]

I was looking at one of these. I'm glad I saw these vids

[@Doomsons]

crazy that that is considered "not air worthy" in a few days

[@thompsonjerry3412]

Get your license, and learn to put your belt on.

[@jhaedtler]

Most flying a Cirrus have no idea how to wear the harness!

[@gdwnet]

I wonder how many ribs he'd break if there was an accident. The belt at that position on the chest could rupture his heart as well.

[@Stepclimb]

@@gdwnet While it’s true that he is wearing the belt/harness in a position that would likely injure him following a rapid deceleration, “idiot” is not what I would call him. He is ignorant of the ramifications of wearing the belt/harness like this. This is exacerbated by the Cirrus design of the harness that allows for this AND his CFIs failure to recognize that he’s wearing it this way. Ultimately, it is the CFI (as PIC) to ensure compliance with 14 CFR 91.107 (a) (1) which includes “how to properly fasten/unfasten the seat belt and shoulder harness”. This either didn’t happen, or JR deliberately didn’t follow the instructions. The former is more likely.

[@pi.actual]

I have been flying for over 50 years and honestly I have never seen anyone wear a seatbelt like that.

[@gdwnet]

@@Stepclimb Good points and I was wrong to use that term - thank you for the corrections.

[@CGF101]

Some cool air sounds nice now🔥

[@KadenBell-mg3fx]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣you are always jokey serious man, love your vids, love the SR20. 👍👍👍 oh and, yes I would, may be expensive, but I'll make it work, after all, part of being a pilot is finding ways to make things work in the air, and on the ground. I think 😅😅

[@stinkintoad]

That's about what i lost on the stock market today . At least you got something out of it.

[@smalltowntexian6239]

With so many planes having ballistic recovery shoots nowadays we're going to have to get used to it. I'm very surprised they only replace it every 10 years....and not something like every 5 years.

[@amcconnell6730]

That parachute flushes $7 down the toilet, every day, just sitting there. They're pretty aeroplanes, but give me a warrior any day. :)

[@MikeCris]

You should consider sending that #2 430 to Garmin for a screen change before they run out of parts. Still a lot of value there.

[@bobninemire6859]

To late. Garmin has non now so it's a boat anchor

[@plektosgaming]

@@bobninemire6859 Yep. In the end, sell this while you can still get something decent out of it. The whole plane is soon going to be like trying to get an old Italian car repaired. Basically a factory-built kit car with no rhyme or reason as to why everything is different on every model. And you having to pass annual checks on the thing.

[@Thetheobaudry]

We need to get you your cert man! We can do that at the cirrus location at SDL - “factory direct flight training”

[@206dvr]

JR doesn't need his pilots license as much as he needs his A&P. Spinning airplanes is nuts unless you can do it with sweat equity.

[@bfox89]

Why arent you flying Left seat??? No training??

[@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403]

It's like having two TBOs. I love the idea of a plane parachute, but it's gotta be cheaper to repack. I'd have to say "no" to Cirrus.

[@ethancampbell6076]

9:21 It’s good to be back on the SR20 after sitting in the hangar in Scottsdale

[@IHPP12]

Love your videos! Hope you ate at The Perfect Landing while you were at Centennial!

[@robertmcmurry3509]

The Perfect landing is now closed. They switched operators and are awaiting health inspections.

[@IHPP12]

@@robertmcmurry3509 Oh wow, I hate to hear that.

[@MrEastern021]

thank you for reminding me why I would rather rent than buy.

[@BlueSideUp]

Why not just do another annual before picking it up? Anyway, I own a G2. I refuse to fly SEP without BRS, that makes the selection in the certified world very small. I love the plane, but we also have been AOG for 2 years recently for parts and the Continental f*uck up, that affected our new engine we decided to install before it was even put in the plane. Parts issues are not a Cirrus exclusive problem, but they are so successful selling new planes at ridiculous prices, they make you feel they hardly care for the existing fleet. Doesn't matter, the weather is nice here so after lunch off to the airport and into the air, makes you forget a lot of things. Still running the engine in, means not looking at fuel flow 🫣 but enjoying 75% power speeds 🥰

[@stormbytes]

I know you guys are generally very resourceful and you work your way out of situations. This isn't one of those times. You dropped the ball on this paperweight. There's no amount of $ that you can reasonably resell this aircraft where you'll recoup your time, effort, money and aggravation. Cut your losses now.

[@djwilliams4714]

Cirrus I am sure builds an Awesome plane!! I am not sure if the parachutes are "optional" or not... However, if they are optional, buying one new or used you had to choose this option as a CYA (cover your a$$) measure in case of a failure. If you did, then you should be prepared to pay the price when buying a new/used for this "safety device" and what it takes to make sure IT WORKS!!!

[@djwilliams4714]

Exactly Jeffrey, you "Gotta Pay to Play"....

[@plektosgaming]

No, they are basically the Maserati of the plane world. Look nice, fly nice, but keeping one flying and legal is going to absolutely wreck you over time.

[@ryanthomas2472]

Chute is not optional in a Cirrus.

[@plektosgaming]

@@ryanthomas2472 Yet, technically, a chute system in a Cessna can be considered as such. hint - just get a Cessna 172/182 and add the system if you really want it. Not that the plane hardly needs it, it's so close to idiot-proof. No, nobody wants a Cessna as their only plane as it's not sexy, not fast, not cutting edge, and what you likely trained on, but it's like that old Toyota Corolla - it just moves along asn does its job as boringly and predictably as possible. Most people should just get one and stay there.

[@11B_GRUNT]

I'd be all about the Cirrus and paying every 10 years for the for the parachute if it's gonna save my passengers and my lives.

[@dennisnbrown]

If the majority of accidents in these airplanes were not in the pattern, I would agree with you.

[@16-BITFPV]

​​​@@dennisnbrownSomeone popped a shoot and walked away just the other day no reported injuries. You keep copying and pasting the same thing like anyone cares.

[@11B_GRUNT]

@dennisnbrown what do you mean, in the pattern?

[@dennisnbrown]

@@11B_GRUNT are you a pilot?

[@11B_GRUNT]

@dennisnbrown lol no Sir, I'm a retired Infantryman US Army. I always wanted to be a pilot, because I have a deep interest in air planes.

[@deltadelta1658]

Arapahoe Aero does great work, they did the pre-buy on my 2013 SR20 several years ago and fixed a few items before I picked up the plane to fly to Florida. The CAPS system is a great additional safety feature, look at the latest save in NJ where the SR20 went down in the trees. My life is worth a lot more than $26K. Speaking of safety, the seat belt should be worn around the waist not as high a in the video. I am looking forward to a video where one of you solos or passes your checkride.

[@williamk5998]

True but there is a risk management perspective to take into account. I'd wager your life, like mine is worth all the money you/I have. By that logic we should fly (if we fly at all) in King Airs crewed by two professional part 121 pilots. As for me I'll stick with my Maule and Bonanza and my training, experience, discretion, proficiency and ADM. To each his own. With that said I am also giving IFR dual in a G2 SR22 and I love the airplane. It's just that the cost/benefit ration is not there for me.

[@edrosiak]

Might have checked on that before purchase?

[@djwilliams4714]

Jeffrey, let's hire an editor for these videos.. The increased videos from the backlogged footage on JR Garage / JR Aviation would PAY for itself, and make you and Christian more $$!!! We can tell the backlog by your hair over the past few episodes on both channels Sir!!! LOL Enjoy the content!!! PS: and the snow in the background at the beginning!

[@donaldmarklarsen8309]

I think It’s a shame Cirrus didn't design the shute system to have replaceable hatch rather than molded /hidden in the body.

[@Airplanefish]

This is a G1. The first model. Cirrus quickly made the parachute removable from the baggage area.

[@donaldmarklarsen8309]

@Airplanefish oh good to know, thanks

[@alrad5686]

After seeing your videos on the Cirrus, I agree with most, I'd avoid it for sure. Enjoy your 4 days before annual. Cirrus airplanes: The quickest way to go from a millionaire to a thousandaire!

[@briantii]

It’s not that bad. We have one. The parachute sucks to do every 10 years, but the rest of it is about the same as any other airplane.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Actually, I know someone who spent their entire retirement on GA planes, they were all Cirrus. But he said he doesn't regret anything and can live in Indonesia on his SS, but dang, that's an expensive plane ticket (I wonder what health care is like in Indonesia because he can't use his Medicare). The Sky makes you do curious things.

[@briantii]

@@dabneyoffermein595 hey if they are happy.... But I sure wouldn't

[@DougFrench-x1j]

why didn't you get an annual while they had it?

[@JRAviation]

4 months backed up

[@KnightlyTruth]

How many years until JR gets his pilots license 😂

[@ph-scprv9113]

Would never go for a G1 SR20. If you really want a Cirrus, SR22 G3 Turbo. Reasonably priced and so much more performance. If you want to avoid all these excessive costs, buy a RV10. Better performance than a SR20 and so much cheaper to operate. 21:15 “Anus India”, really? Radiotelephony skills are important for a safe operation. Don’t underestimate that. Try to be professional!

[@Airplanefish]

It was good to see you guys again.

[@nightvisionoutfitters]

Legit question: what’s with not getting the PPL at a minimum? Very good videos and good airplane knowledge. It’s really not all that tough to knock it out in no time. Not trying to be disrespectful but I just don’t get it. Had my ppl at 17, comm 18, then cfi, and even an atp before I was done with college.

[@flybouy11]

When I was learning to fly in 1963 the cost of solo Cessna 150 was $10 hr. Dual was $14 hr. $1 dollar in 1960 is $10.25 now.

[@i.r.wayright1457]

After my Dad passed I found a note he scribbled prices to learn to fly. 1955, A J-3 wet was $3 an hour, add $6 for the instructor. I wish he would have gone for it but Mother had other ideas and a new sister was hatched in 1956. Poof, there went that dream. I got my A&P and later I.A. so all the flying I got to do was free with the owners that I did annuals and repairs for. And, yes, Cirrus, what were you thinking? $27,000 would buy a complete airplane, although it will probably be a TriPacer.

[@265P42G]

I remember being a big spender and upgrading for a $1 more per hour to get the rental plane with an extra radio to make navigation easier.

[@265P42G]

@@i.r.wayright1457 TriPacer- that brings back memories

[@beggarman8590]

I like the idea of a parachute to save people both on the ground as well as in the plane.

[@ryanthomas2472]

Once you pull the chute there's no control over where it impacts. I've never heard of one landing on top of someone but that's more luck than design. It could very easily kill someone if it landed on them under chute.

[@beggarman8590]

@@ryanthomas2472 It's better to have an option then not. Plus I know of 4 times a chute was used in a forest where there was no place to land and I have heard of many crashes where the plane hit a home and killed the people in it. Like i said an extra option is better than none. Just my likes.

[@Vanya80151]

I am sure that parachutes have saved many pilots. But you can't give them credit for each deployment. The only time you can say for sure it saved a life is in case of a structural failure. Honestly, if I have an engine failure I am very unlikely to pull the parachute. I would rather fly it down and try to land it under control, on my terms. The amount of kinetic energy at stall speed with full flaps is pretty low. Drifting under a canopy sounds scarier than having a controlled crash landing.

[@skyboy1956]

Another way to look at it: How many fatalities in a Cirrus AFTER a chute pull?

[@NVFlyer]

Why is the CFI in the left seat and doing everything... everything except making sure his student has his seatbelt on correctly?

[@32SQUID]

Sup with seat belt?

[@dieselyeti]

I'd heard chute repacks ran around 10k. This is insane.

[@planedoc84]

Here’s a thought buy a bonanza and be money ahead and no chute to worry about and be money way ahead

[@KiRiTO72987]

This is why i do flight sim and not actual flying

[@thompsonjerry3412]

What about internal engine rust after 10 months?

[@brianbohannon8044]

Do some research in that electric igniter, which is an SB by the way and not mandatory. There have been a handful of Cirrus’ that were struck by lightning and the electric igniter deployed CAPS.

[@GenoSalvati]

What happened to the occupants of these planes that were struck by lightning?

[@brianbohannon8044]

@@GenoSalvati The ones I’ve seen (one just happened last month) were on the ramp. A CAPS deployment nearly totals the plane so it leads to a very lengthy repair and lots of money.

[@johnporter5828]

I love flying my MSFS flight sim....

[@ferebeefamily]

Thank you for the video.

[@robertbrown7470]

What was the cost of the parachute?

[@rockfishmiller]

The only thing that's important is that if you flip it, will you make any money? Would you keep as a personal plane?

[@helomech1973]

I wouldn't even service the chute. Planes glide great.

[@ProDeo04]

Probably a dumb question. But could you not repack the chute and put an experimental ticket on the plane? Or is that not allowed? I guess that does defeat the purpose of buying a Cirrus in the first place.

[@granddad-mv5ef]

My thinking is more along the lines that some other planes might be less expensive to fly (and maintain, obviously). But does the Cirrus have the features for which I am looking? And do those features outweigh the costs? I don't think there is a clear answer to this. Also, you haven't been able to fly the plane enough to form solid ideas on its value. Fly it a hundred hours or so, then give it a review.

[@plektosgaming]

They are fundamentally no different than any other light aircraft in their class, aside from the parachute gimmick. The downside is that repairs, the manufacturer themselves ( customer support and availability and so on ), and overall design choices make them super expensive to operate. About $600 per hour on average versus a Cessna 172 at about $200 an hour.

[@travisstubenrouch8269]

Can you list a few engine management podcasts you would recommend?

[@n343fd]

Cirrus sure looks like a sweet plane. However WAY too expensive for me. The annual alone will prevent me from ever buying one. I will stick with my humble RV6. Annual (Condition Inspection) is usually under $1000. Sometimes it might get around $2000 but not often. I cannot carry as much but I can go as fast as that SR20. Not sure how the range comparison. My 6 is for sure not as nice inside but it is a plane I can afford to fly 😊

[@tropicthndr]

Best alternative to Cirrus stupidity, “RV10”. Throttle quadrant doesn’t break off from excessive force due to all in one throttle and prop control. Check new FAA airworthiness directive on this. Death machine.

[@jacksmith8002]

I love this channel, I'm in Scottsdale, I'd love to meet you

[@gmcjetpilot]

My RV-7 is 170kts 8gph cruise and I wear a pilot emergency chute on my back (sometimes for acro) repack $90. Ha ha. Labor to maintain my plane? Zero. I built it. 💪

[@alanwood4968]

What is the price of the pilot?

[@dr4062]

Put your shoulder harness on properly !! Very Important if ever it has to do it's job

[@bernieschiff5919]

It's his lap belt, it should be below his hips and the shoulder straps need to be looser and not allow it to be pulled up. His instructor didn't seem to notice or glance in his direction the whole time or say anything about it. Very strange. I guess he was acting as a ferry pilot, not an instructor.