Does Lennox Lewis Suspect Past Opponents Used Steroids? | Joe Rogan

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@alcottdevalte7440
@alcottdevalte7440 5 жыл бұрын
8 time mr olympia lee haney trained holyfield to give him more muscle mass and gain weight, holyfield was on steroids and peds
@mikeboudreaux6465
@mikeboudreaux6465 5 жыл бұрын
alcott devalte duh
@kingjohn1717
@kingjohn1717 5 жыл бұрын
No doubt.
@pizza7738
@pizza7738 5 жыл бұрын
@Salah the Diver not very secretive if they kept a list of customers .. I think they would remember holyfield without having to write it down lol I do think he was on the gear thougj
@lu77xiaojun37
@lu77xiaojun37 5 жыл бұрын
Not only did Holyfield use steroids and peds, he also hit low, hit after the bell, and head-butted. As Terrence Crawford said: "Its a fight!". Did i forget anything?? Oh yeah, i nearly forgot, Holyfield absolutely owned Mike Tyson. Owned him. At a time when every fighter wet his pants when Tyson walked in the room Evander was like, Bring it.
@castle_45
@castle_45 5 жыл бұрын
no shit, everybody is on steroids.
@NPC-kv7tn
@NPC-kv7tn 5 жыл бұрын
"If everyone is cheating then it's fair" - Lewis "nervous laugh"
@kingtfcliff
@kingtfcliff 5 жыл бұрын
NOT at all dude. haha. If Lennox was ever on PEDS he obv wasnt doing it right based on his body type throughout his career.
@dylanpriest9756
@dylanpriest9756 5 жыл бұрын
@@kingtfcliff Steroids have nothing to do with body type. They help you recover which is the primary benefit because you can train more
@shropsiberian
@shropsiberian 5 жыл бұрын
Lewis was probably the last great heavyweight not doing steroids. Maybe the Klitschko's as their success was certainly biased to their techniques. Also known as holding.
@dylanpriest9756
@dylanpriest9756 5 жыл бұрын
@@shropsiberian Every boxer is on steroids. You don't make world champion without doing steroids
@Onlyrealmusic4life
@Onlyrealmusic4life 5 жыл бұрын
Motor City Cobra For real. They were clearly on the juice
@LordDirus007
@LordDirus007 4 жыл бұрын
Holyfield was definitely on juice. He went from Cruiserweight to Jacked Heavyweight in like a year
@MoodSwingZX
@MoodSwingZX 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr602 including...... xD hmmm L...s
@etalks52
@etalks52 4 жыл бұрын
He was training with big 8X Mr. Olympia Lee Haney
@LordDirus007
@LordDirus007 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr602 I honestly don't believe Mike Tyson was juicing. He admitted to being high on Cocaine during a fight. He however said he he never was on juice. He just always had Naturally high test levels. I mean he looked like a grown man at 14 years old.
@lukeatbrandynightful
@lukeatbrandynightful 4 жыл бұрын
@@LordDirus007 he's deffo on steroids now though
@Ramezk23
@Ramezk23 4 жыл бұрын
@Mr602 every era
@bobsingh7949
@bobsingh7949 4 жыл бұрын
It's great that Lennox Lewis is just generally honest. So great.
@morelife6508
@morelife6508 4 жыл бұрын
He was on too. Doesn't take anything away from him since everyone was on back then.
@theinformationbomber7102
@theinformationbomber7102 3 жыл бұрын
@@morelife6508 yeah but the biggest was holyfield
@dillonpersel8561
@dillonpersel8561 3 жыл бұрын
@@theinformationbomber7102 bruno was juiced as hell too
@theinformationbomber7102
@theinformationbomber7102 3 жыл бұрын
@@dillonpersel8561 yeah but at least his weight suited him he was 247 lbs meanwhile holyfield had a similar physique and weighed only 215 lbs that's the difference and oh bruno didn't hire bodybuilders and he didn't get caught in a pharmacy raid that sold illegal Drugs and PEDs to top sportsmen
@bottlewaddle6677
@bottlewaddle6677 3 жыл бұрын
@@morelife6508 they still are now
@BadgerBJJ
@BadgerBJJ 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO!!! Joe Rogan thinks nobody is juiced. It’s all genetics. Guy gains 50 lbs of muscle, while training as a pro fighter... it’s genetics
@bigcholoballs7148
@bigcholoballs7148 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@pentreifan3905
@pentreifan3905 5 жыл бұрын
@jnicemint lol
@BadgerBJJ
@BadgerBJJ 5 жыл бұрын
jnicemint he’s made excuses for Jon Jones, who was actually CAUGHT. Same with Joel Romero. In this interview he said Evander Holyfield was natti, just had great genetics. Went from 179 to 215 ripped.
@THISISLolesh
@THISISLolesh 5 жыл бұрын
@jnicemint none of them are clean bud.
@THISISLolesh
@THISISLolesh 5 жыл бұрын
@jnicemint loads of athletes never pop, just naivety on your part lol
@brians7901
@brians7901 4 жыл бұрын
Holyfield was absolutely on steroids. The guys back muscles came up over his head
@Hanma007
@Hanma007 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@JustAGuy85
@JustAGuy85 3 жыл бұрын
It's just that the propaganda against them made them extremely taboo and that taboo never wore off. Of course, they're also banned in any legitimate sport so there's that. But my point was that we've had people grow up seeing Arnold deny steroid use and then end up believing that you can look like Arnold without steroids because he said so. These boxers don't even lift weights like bodybuilders and yet... what do they look like? Bodybuilders. That's how you know beyond any shadow of a doubt that they've juiced for years.
@humann5682
@humann5682 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustAGuy85 What always got me is how a fighter or any athlete could be taking something for 5 years legally, then suddenly some folks in lab coats say "actually we're going to ban this now" and the athlete doesn't realise straight away, they get busted a few months later and tarnished as a "cheater". Reality is athletes are firing tons of chemicals in to their system constantly that are offering them better performance or recovery etc... And some are legal, some are not. But like you say the propoganda was crazy. People are treated like criminals because some lab coats decided to change the rules and they didn't get the memo quick enough.
@jaypaige7550
@jaypaige7550 2 жыл бұрын
@@humann5682 Accept for one thing your scenario does not happen , any professional organization will notify it's athletes of any banned substances in advance . Also there's always a long list of ban substances , it's up to the athletes to stay up to date with what's banned and what's not !
@Slipmahoney21
@Slipmahoney21 2 жыл бұрын
So then Tyson was on steroid? His traps went into his ears, and you can get steroids in prison.... so he was on steroids too? Looks alone sometimes don’t give it away.
@damonmabry1607
@damonmabry1607 3 жыл бұрын
I was always a fan of this man. He seems like a class act.
@guinnessbernard
@guinnessbernard 5 жыл бұрын
Our juiced guy was better than your juiced guy
@castle_45
@castle_45 5 жыл бұрын
well sounds fair if both guys are on it
@mattdanieldaep8752
@mattdanieldaep8752 5 жыл бұрын
Bill Burr!!!
@tomasfawcett8653
@tomasfawcett8653 5 жыл бұрын
@Switch Kick its a line from bill burr, dont get all serious on us lol
@ascend3654
@ascend3654 5 жыл бұрын
just let everybody juice so we can be entertained
@larrylucid5502
@larrylucid5502 5 жыл бұрын
he said "our roided up guy beat your roided up guy" ;) ... and followed with "Everybody!! Turn in your yachts" rofl
@AuthenticSelfGrowth
@AuthenticSelfGrowth 4 жыл бұрын
Shannon Briggs lol. He's still juiced till today
@jacobnieves9505
@jacobnieves9505 4 жыл бұрын
Fr bigger than he ever was at 47 😂
@SuperJames284
@SuperJames284 4 жыл бұрын
T’DIS DAY
@saulgoodman7858
@saulgoodman7858 4 жыл бұрын
TILL THIS DAY. FURY SUCKS.
@minds777
@minds777 4 жыл бұрын
TILL THIS DAY
@minds777
@minds777 4 жыл бұрын
SaulGoodman fury fucked wilder 🤣🤣
@patrickjamessimpson7268
@patrickjamessimpson7268 4 жыл бұрын
lewis was a great champion. underated when fighting but looking back look at who he fought. everyone. and got up to beat those who beat him. always respectable towards others and since retirement has been a good ambassador.
@posniknelb6114
@posniknelb6114 Жыл бұрын
Underrated by un- understanders. He's at the top of the tree
@leejohnstone3051
@leejohnstone3051 5 жыл бұрын
The infamous 100m sprint of the Seoul 1988 Olympics everyone was taking performance enhancing drugs. Carl Lewis: Ben was just the one who got caught
@coolinism
@coolinism 5 жыл бұрын
100%, Carl Lewis was just a sore loser he was just as dirty and Ben Johnson’s run in that race is still my most favourite regardless
@mensrea1251
@mensrea1251 4 жыл бұрын
@@coolinism I think 60 Minutes did an exposé on how USA Track & Field suppressed test results prior to the Olympics suggesting PED use by Lewis, Flo Jo and others in order to allow them to compete. Wasn't surprised at all when Flo Jo suddenly passed on. Not aware any definitive coroner's report being released under pressure from the family. Gotta protect the legacy (and future earnings).
@davefloyd9443
@davefloyd9443 4 жыл бұрын
Ben was a sacrificial lamb so that Lewis and FloJo could get away Scot free. Steroid testing was introduced in 89, flojo retired in 89.......
@metaphoria3
@metaphoria3 3 жыл бұрын
Jesse Owens was incredible
@tonayferguson7178
@tonayferguson7178 5 жыл бұрын
Steroids or not ill ankle pick them all
@sheawnv5724
@sheawnv5724 5 жыл бұрын
Tonay Ferguson some people who use steroids skip leg day lol, just kick their legs
@Ou8y2k2
@Ou8y2k2 5 жыл бұрын
Tonay, the kind of guy to maspel Toni.
@DanielJordanOfficial
@DanielJordanOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to win via D'arce Choke in a boxing match
@yuseftzu4211
@yuseftzu4211 5 жыл бұрын
Haha
@jacobnieves9505
@jacobnieves9505 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@Wilizm
@Wilizm 5 жыл бұрын
“Everybody uses steroids” - Nate Diaz
@LonDonTaylor.
@LonDonTaylor. 5 жыл бұрын
Was just about to comment this lol. I've heard Wlad being on them too
@shaunmabey9790
@shaunmabey9790 5 жыл бұрын
It's probably true. But what's definitely the case is nate is on them after that statement
@Braaaaaaa
@Braaaaaaa 5 жыл бұрын
Just watch the documentary "Icarus". Top level athletes are always gonna try to get an edge on their opponent. It's on our nature to cheat and there is always a way around the system.
@kennethpain131
@kennethpain131 5 жыл бұрын
Your fucked Nate Diaz The skinniest crackhead you say uses your an idiot, and let me guess Brock Lesnar is natural
@edgiebraahhh7280
@edgiebraahhh7280 5 жыл бұрын
The original Quote is from Nick
@harryblox760
@harryblox760 3 жыл бұрын
Lennox is such a cool dude. Its crazy to think how chilled he is, but he would turn into a monster
@hiimmidas
@hiimmidas 5 жыл бұрын
Good guy Lennox Lewis. I'm a fan after this video.
@blindingshadow3463
@blindingshadow3463 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah hes totally innocent.
@sebastianbolt7886
@sebastianbolt7886 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox one of the greats
@johnallen6593
@johnallen6593 5 жыл бұрын
His cool ine... I agree
@weenitomcchile1380
@weenitomcchile1380 5 жыл бұрын
@@blindingshadow3463 I like Lennox today, although admittedly was a hater back in the day. I bet he used some PED's himself.
@josefbecher4790
@josefbecher4790 5 жыл бұрын
Joe "allow me to use this time to defend and condone steroids" Rogan
@Snailbarf
@Snailbarf 5 жыл бұрын
Then there would just be the worst steroids guy slipping down to the other class and trying to win the B division, and we'd be back to square one.
@thegeneral6610
@thegeneral6610 5 жыл бұрын
Joenardo " Remember Lil Toe from Bonanza?" Rogaine
@73kimura
@73kimura 5 жыл бұрын
saying that a professional athlete like Holyfield who is not a bodybuilder per se can look like one naturally while he´s actually in an entirely different sport to begin with, is BS. LOOK AT THOSE TRAPS FOR CHRISSAKES. Still love Evander by the way, was a hell of a fighter but the dude was a walking pharmacy.
@billytheripper4
@billytheripper4 4 жыл бұрын
@@73kimura Joe "you definitely can get this big without roids" rogan
@martinamicflyy2618
@martinamicflyy2618 4 жыл бұрын
Josef Becher Wow!!............... kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ3Yf6iMpZeSiqc kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIrXgGqfhdGVa8U
@dayaaron87
@dayaaron87 5 жыл бұрын
My man Lennox talking natural food. Respect to you brother
@73kimura
@73kimura 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah man! And loudmouth Rogan talking right over him...Lennox is right..steroids might help you short term, but it´s a mental crutch and it fucks up your health big time
@ryutenmen
@ryutenmen 5 жыл бұрын
@@73kimura "fucks up your health big time"? You just proved you have no idea what are you talking about. Do you know why steroids were invented?
@Sakom
@Sakom 5 жыл бұрын
Yah that annoyed me too when he talked over Lewis, I wanted to hear what he had to say, Rogan is a terrible interviewer at times..
4 жыл бұрын
Chris Dean Your right. I have been cycling gear for two years.your balls do get smaller at least until you recover.
@beentray8403
@beentray8403 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryutenmen if you abuse them which most using athletes especially in that time basically did, plus combine it with growth hormones which is a common combination then yeah, you are definitely fucking your health up. Not to mention steroids mentally addicting as hell
@copperkipper1
@copperkipper1 5 жыл бұрын
Ortiz is 100 years old
@craigsmith8811
@craigsmith8811 5 жыл бұрын
He was 103 last year
@Jonte_fågelstig
@Jonte_fågelstig 5 жыл бұрын
WhoIamIsNotImportant no hes 147
@buffoonustroglodytus4688
@buffoonustroglodytus4688 5 жыл бұрын
You'd think he would be based on how all these people describe him and other athletes at a similar age. "Omg ortiz is soo old and past his prime if this was the 1800s he's knock out everyone from Napoleon to Lincoln"
@dandan9134
@dandan9134 4 жыл бұрын
So much respect for him, so humble ☺️
@Ilestun
@Ilestun 4 жыл бұрын
You can take as much steroids as you want but you won't get the amazing headbutting technique of Evander.
@azneee4202
@azneee4202 4 жыл бұрын
That's ironic considering he took steroids himself
@morelife6508
@morelife6508 4 жыл бұрын
@@azneee4202 very true. Lewis was also clearly on juice.
@Allopientubefish2
@Allopientubefish2 3 жыл бұрын
It was so subtle that the refs didn't pick up on it
@alexanderbohart1550
@alexanderbohart1550 3 жыл бұрын
@@morelife6508 What do you mean “clearly”
@morelife6508
@morelife6508 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderbohart1550 spend time among world class athletes and PED users, and you'll recognize someone who is using. All your favorite modern day heaven weights were on some form of PED during their prime
@tswrench
@tswrench 4 жыл бұрын
Steroid abuse usually shows up in hypertrophy of the masseter muscle in the jaw (strongest muscle in the body), and in acne located on the torso (chest and back). An example of this in a boxer would, allegedly, be Andrew Golota--he had all the signs, including the behavioral component, "roid rage." Lewis destroyed Golota in their fight.
@sullieking
@sullieking 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@jonlanier_
@jonlanier_ 2 жыл бұрын
Sort of... Roid rage isn't being on an overabundant amount of testosterone. Rage comes when you crash off of it and your own body has not made any to make up the difference for your brain. Yep, been there on the crash.
@sullieking
@sullieking 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonlanier_ how bad is the come down off steroids?
@anthonymcken6050
@anthonymcken6050 Жыл бұрын
The massive jawline is the first give away. That's what gave away Conor Benn.
@tswrench
@tswrench Жыл бұрын
@@jonlanier_ -- Exactly. And a fighter would typically be off the roids prior to a bout, potentially making them even more aggressive.
@semyaza555
@semyaza555 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox "You Can't Condition that Chin" Cejudo
@Rarasrevenge
@Rarasrevenge 5 жыл бұрын
An Asshole. Damn that’s his last name
@KodakBlacksBrain
@KodakBlacksBrain 5 жыл бұрын
I thought Cody said that
@semyaza555
@semyaza555 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rarasrevenge He did but then TJ got melted by a flyweight.
@davestuddaman8127
@davestuddaman8127 5 жыл бұрын
Bah haha melted You watch in the rematch. TJ gonna smoke him
@ChiselledK1990
@ChiselledK1990 5 жыл бұрын
There are muscles that surround the jaw that often get bigger & stronger when taking steroids though. Plus steroids massively help increase the size of the upper traps & neck muscles, which can help in taking punches.
@muzlp
@muzlp 3 жыл бұрын
It’s still weird looking at Russell Peters talking about boxing instead of making race jokes 😅 although he’s actually quite knowledgeable
@donfuego3585
@donfuego3585 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see that Lennox is not punch drunk like Evander, Tyson and James Toney.
@petergriffin6223
@petergriffin6223 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson is not punch drunk. He never really spoke well and he can't say s well
@aaronbarrett9894
@aaronbarrett9894 5 жыл бұрын
Two of Brampton's finest gentlemen. I can personally attest to how warm and kind these two guys are in real life. Mr. Lewis and Mr. Peters are great guys.
@KingJahfy1
@KingJahfy1 5 жыл бұрын
‘You know what’s better than bully beef’ steroids! Lmao 😂😂😂
@H2Otodafullest
@H2Otodafullest 5 жыл бұрын
TJ Kolleh bro I almost fell out my chair when Joe it Lennox with that one lmfao rofl
@garse70
@garse70 5 жыл бұрын
Can’t accuse Larry of steroids. Holmes had the best jab! He just knew how to fight!
@Challender
@Challender 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox loved watching you fight man! Class act.
@5ynthesizerpatel
@5ynthesizerpatel 4 жыл бұрын
Really big traps are a telltale sign of a juicer - the trapezius muscle has the highest concentration of androgen receptors so they give a much bigger response to steroid use than any other muscle. Not saying big traps always = juice, but it's a fair rule of thumb.
@chonconnor6144
@chonconnor6144 3 жыл бұрын
The real giveaway is the overly popped delts, they also have a lot of receptors.
@humann5682
@humann5682 3 жыл бұрын
@@chonconnor6144 And roid gut too, AJ has shown that in the past.
@nykia31
@nykia31 5 жыл бұрын
Greatest heavyweight of the post Ali era.
@jman360co
@jman360co 5 жыл бұрын
Cough cough wladmir and vitali have a case
@majorsmythe1
@majorsmythe1 5 жыл бұрын
Well, Ali was past it when Larry Holmes was in his prime. Holmes would beat Lewis.
@jac9963
@jac9963 5 жыл бұрын
@@jman360co Indeed. And prime Mike Tyson would have to be in the debate, depending whether one is looking at length of their reign, or the pure level of skill and ability....
@jac9963
@jac9963 5 жыл бұрын
Tyson was never the same after 1991.
@jman360co
@jman360co 5 жыл бұрын
@@jac9963 yh i think d mato was his dad basically
@jeremybackman2782
@jeremybackman2782 5 жыл бұрын
Evander still a beast , seen recent pics and interviews , dude looked like he could fight tomorrow.
@streetpunk99
@streetpunk99 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't give you a better chin but they do increase endurance, speed, recovery time, strength and every other advantage you can think of.
@a.i.l1074
@a.i.l1074 5 жыл бұрын
I've never had a plantain, maybe that's what's getting in the way of my boxing career? It's either that or my never having tried boxing
@jac9963
@jac9963 5 жыл бұрын
Probably both.
@NPFfumbi
@NPFfumbi 5 жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@DolfVaderNZ
@DolfVaderNZ 5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@alexmighty693
@alexmighty693 5 жыл бұрын
You need some green banana, okra, and some bully beef.
@keithlard3544
@keithlard3544 5 жыл бұрын
@@jac9963 nah, just the lack of plantain is the issue. I ate it once, went down to my local boxing gym for the first time and bolo punch kod the head trainer.
@iamatlantis1
@iamatlantis1 3 жыл бұрын
I cant say I was ever a fan of Lennox Lewis for some reason, but what a well spoken intelligent dude.
@jonmeans2637
@jonmeans2637 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox is 100 percent correct about the chin aspect and steroids
@kacpermoney2820
@kacpermoney2820 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Your jaw muscles strengthen, and with a stronger neck and traps you can take punches better
@nigelfiles8672
@nigelfiles8672 5 жыл бұрын
They should just do steroid olympics it would be way better to watch.
@dolphin069
@dolphin069 5 жыл бұрын
You've seen the Olympics, right?
@nigelfiles8672
@nigelfiles8672 5 жыл бұрын
@@dolphin069 yea but make it legal then watch mad juiceheads throw down.ill watch that.
@kore6078
@kore6078 5 жыл бұрын
Well I did hear they are allowing trans to compete in the next one.... that will bring more viewers... right?
@bazarovism
@bazarovism 5 жыл бұрын
@@nigelfiles8672 I think he means they are using steroids anyway so olympics can be considered as streroid olympics
@nigelfiles8672
@nigelfiles8672 5 жыл бұрын
@@bazarovism No shit sherlock did you read my post.
@KolossusB
@KolossusB 3 жыл бұрын
Well considering an "Evan Holyfield" appeared on an indicted doctors list of patients he was selling things like anabolics too. And this "Evan Holyfield" happened to have the same civic Address as Evander Holyfield. I think it's a pretty safe assumption Mr Holyfield was juiced, regardless of what first name he was posing as at the time.
@theinformationbomber7102
@theinformationbomber7102 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that but their contact no. was the same as well because when that no. was dialled it was holyfield himself who answered the call and confirmed that he was 'evan fields' but later knowing that his name had gotten busted in a steroid lab scandal he cut the call LMAOOOOOOO
@Lizardbrainzzz
@Lizardbrainzzz 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox issa Real One ☝️
@morelife6508
@morelife6508 4 жыл бұрын
And was really geared up.
@joaoalegria7578
@joaoalegria7578 5 жыл бұрын
the most underrated boxer imo, honestly could be considered the goat, 2 defeats only and avenged them, much like gsp
@cjewe1z
@cjewe1z 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't he duck Tyson in his prime? Then, when he was more or less finished he sought to fight him and beat him.
@kieranfraser5993
@kieranfraser5993 5 жыл бұрын
Tyson’s prime lasted a very short period due to his problems out the ring. 18-21 year old Tyson would of beat any other version of Tyson. That’s not normal in boxing
@rayquinlan40
@rayquinlan40 5 жыл бұрын
Kieran Fraser he never won a fight he was knocked down in! Tell me one great fighter he beat? Ruddock please
@harveydodd8803
@harveydodd8803 3 жыл бұрын
@@cjewe1z Other way around. Tyson ducked Lewis. Literally paid him $4 million not to fight him and went and fought Bruno instead.
@cjewe1z
@cjewe1z 3 жыл бұрын
@@harveydodd8803, Lewis is a pussy, and he talks like one. Tyson in his prime would have sent him to an early grave.
@edwindude9893
@edwindude9893 3 жыл бұрын
When a man that’s the size and as powerful as Lennox hits anyone on anything they’re going to know about it.
@pittykitty6503
@pittykitty6503 5 жыл бұрын
I love russel peters for talking the truth about evander. Everyone else sweeps it under the rug
@sasssports9664
@sasssports9664 5 жыл бұрын
I can't figure if Russell Peters is a fanboy or a historian. Either Way, I'm very impressed with his knowledge of boxing history.
@rubenaerts2928
@rubenaerts2928 5 жыл бұрын
@Patricio Jesus Yeah, he was getting a little bit 2 familiar and disrespectfull with Lennox Lewis, an all time great heavyweight.
@MrJacobiusMaximus
@MrJacobiusMaximus 5 жыл бұрын
Ruben Aerts they’re friends dude....
@slipnslide9308
@slipnslide9308 4 жыл бұрын
Lennox and Russell grew up together
@aftrdrk7263
@aftrdrk7263 4 жыл бұрын
Lee Haney the pro bodybuilder spoke about how easily Holyfield bulked with muscle with his help
@Tron_Funkin_Blow
@Tron_Funkin_Blow 5 жыл бұрын
Prime Lennox Lewis with Manny Steward in his corner could defeat any Heavyweight of any era
@coolinism
@coolinism 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely, great power plus boxing skills
@jonnyhatter35
@jonnyhatter35 5 жыл бұрын
It's pretty cool of Joe to invite his friends on the show when he knows the main guest is one of his friend's idols. Joe prob called up Russell and was like, "guess who's coming on the pod!"
@lukas9098
@lukas9098 4 жыл бұрын
Man come on, “they didn’t have the good steroids stuff in the 90’s” bro ask Mark McGwire Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds that...
@morelife6508
@morelife6508 4 жыл бұрын
There hasn't been advances in steroids in ages. Maybe different and safer ways to synthesize growth hormone. But as far as traditional AAS, they been the same since the 50s/60s.
@Paul-ew5st
@Paul-ew5st 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't have synthetic HGH back then so it came from dead people in India and it cost about 10 grand for a couple of months worth
@BrownBomber92181
@BrownBomber92181 5 жыл бұрын
When Evander first fought Moorer that's when his build drastically changed and it was obvious he was on peds. It killed his stamina and speed tho, it was never the same. Watch Holys fights pre Moorer, like the first 2 Bowe fights, the Foreman and Dokes fights, there's a huge difference in his build and his speed and punch output.
@nimaakhtarkhavari8766
@nimaakhtarkhavari8766 3 жыл бұрын
He was on steroids and other stuffs his entire career as Heavyweight, the only difference is the amount he used. As you said, against Moorer it was just ridiculous how much Holyfield was using...
@BrownBomber92181
@BrownBomber92181 3 жыл бұрын
@@nimaakhtarkhavari8766 possibly. His early heavyweight days up until the Bowe fight he was barely 205 lbs & very lean. He didnt look much different from his cruiser days. Then after he lost to Bowe his physique changed drastically
@curtizjamezjackson111
@curtizjamezjackson111 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrownBomber92181 he was on steriods since 1989
@BrownBomber92181
@BrownBomber92181 3 жыл бұрын
@@curtizjamezjackson111 You think so? He was still very lean, barely at 205 up until 92. Then seemingly overnight he was almost 220, had bulging muscles and his workrate and stamina absolutely plummeted.
@curtizjamezjackson111
@curtizjamezjackson111 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrownBomber92181 no i think he was on steroids 1989 his bench press was 190 lbs in 1988 and his trainers said in 1989 he hired bodybuilding coaches and probably bought roids too then it increased 375 lbs for 12 reps which makes up 1 rep max of 525 lbs in 1990 in his bench press went from 190 lbs to 525 lbs in just 1 year his bench press increased by 335 lbs while his weight increased by 15 lbs only so i think he was on steriods since 1989 he just upped the steriod dosage for the tyson and lewis fights
@johnmiller5679
@johnmiller5679 3 жыл бұрын
Love how Rogan just shots Lewis down when Lewis is going on about Jamaican Plantains. He could have said spare me but he was diplomatic and said you know what’s better then that…Steroids.
@justj2440
@justj2440 5 жыл бұрын
If Joe thinks holyfeild is possible natural his ignorance is palpable. Though I doubt he believes it, his amount of politicking is absurb.
@tmac2798
@tmac2798 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Jones he tries so hard to not make anyone mad it’s annoying af
@mikebuff5693
@mikebuff5693 5 жыл бұрын
Holyfield was fucking juiced to the gills when he fought Tyson. Tyson look deflated next to him.
@insomthegreat
@insomthegreat 5 жыл бұрын
So Joe says "very likely" and you hear what?
@justj2440
@justj2440 5 жыл бұрын
@@tmac2798 he often claims unbias yet cows down to many guests, taking their side to play politics puts a dent in his rep.
@justj2440
@justj2440 5 жыл бұрын
@@insomthegreat if you have a counterpoint come to it.
@damianerasmus6163
@damianerasmus6163 5 жыл бұрын
"is it still cheating if everybody is doing it" We enjoy watching people push the boundaries of being human and that's part of what makes sport great and entertaining and using ped's makes them machines then it becomes unrealistic and not entertaining anymore
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 5 жыл бұрын
"Were any of them on steroids? What about DMT?"
@AHighlander
@AHighlander 5 жыл бұрын
"Have they considered stem cells?"
@dtruth5769
@dtruth5769 2 жыл бұрын
LENNOX and Rocky Marciano we're the only two men who beat every man they fought.
@JacaboBlanco
@JacaboBlanco 5 жыл бұрын
There are more andorhen receptors in the traps and shoulders than anywhere else So a big sign of steroids use is disproportionate size in the traps. Holyfield definitely has the phsyical signs of steroid abuse
@Edward-tc5up
@Edward-tc5up 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think about Joshua?
@EverDayBest
@EverDayBest 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it is very clear he was on gear
@EverDayBest
@EverDayBest 4 жыл бұрын
@John Smith Boxers don't need to value the traps/lats. They get worked heavily from bag work.
@EverDayBest
@EverDayBest 4 жыл бұрын
@John Smith ah.
@juggsrocks
@juggsrocks 4 жыл бұрын
Anybody got a sauce on that 18th place claim Joe made regarding TdF at 04:33 ? I've only managed to read that 20 out of 21 podium finishers from '98 to '05 tested +ve for doping.
@dunkelwalde695
@dunkelwalde695 2 жыл бұрын
SUSPECT?! Lol, how about guaranteed without a doubt. Let's see, it was the 90s. His opponents included: Holyfield, Morrison, and Tyson. All were juiced to the gills! Golota, Gotha and Briggs were close runner ups! Lewis himself was 98% deep on the sauce, too.
@thediaz07
@thediaz07 2 жыл бұрын
Tyson? Nope. Tyson was gigantic when he was 15..you could tell he always had the potential for size especially with his rigorous training.
@dunkelwalde695
@dunkelwalde695 2 жыл бұрын
@@thediaz07 You are ridiculously naive if you think post prison Tyson wasn't juiced, lol!
@kennysponto6568
@kennysponto6568 Жыл бұрын
Lewis is a class act and he was a great fighter. Atypical for a boxer. Fighters should watch this and if they're going to emulate a great fighter? Emulate Lenox Lewis.
@jazmar0822
@jazmar0822 5 жыл бұрын
4:17 that is incorrect, all the names crossed out aren't for steroids. Asafa Powell was never caught using steroids, the administration that governs performance enhancing drugs has a list that includes drugs that they think can be used as a masking agent. So if you take the wrong supplements, or take over the counter medication to fight a cold, chances are it may contain something that can be used to mask the use of steroids. So you can fail a drug test even though you're not cheating. That's why they recommend you look the list of ingredients in any drug and match it with their banned list, and if you need to take something for a cold you must declare it. If you didn't let them know and it shows up on your test then they consider you a cheat even though you didn't test positive for steroids.
@NPFfumbi
@NPFfumbi 5 жыл бұрын
Right, but they are all using. Track and field is a joke. Same with cycling and weightlifting.
@Paulafan5
@Paulafan5 5 жыл бұрын
If you have a masking agent in your system it's to mask PEDs you're taking, right? Why else would you have a masking agent in your body?
@jazmar0822
@jazmar0822 5 жыл бұрын
@@Paulafan5 Yes and no, WADA has a long list of ingredients they consider to be masking agents. New things keep being added to the list, I'm not sure how athletes are even able to keep track of them. So if you take a pain killer honestly just for pain, and you don't check to see what's in it, you will fail unless you let them know in advance. There was an athlete who thought it was OK to drink an energy drink only to find out there was something in the energy drink listed as a masking agent.
@Postpost90s
@Postpost90s 5 жыл бұрын
Lewis and Tyson had such a great build up
@jopo7996
@jopo7996 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox looks in better condition now then when he fought.
@DB_Cooper.
@DB_Cooper. 5 жыл бұрын
In his pink sweater ? Ok.
@MikeG82
@MikeG82 5 жыл бұрын
based on what?
@LonDonTaylor.
@LonDonTaylor. 5 жыл бұрын
You gotta be kidding lol
@pizza7738
@pizza7738 5 жыл бұрын
@@DB_Cooper. thats not lennox lewis bro
@amck72
@amck72 5 жыл бұрын
No he doesn't. Stop it.
@boxingmonkey2450
@boxingmonkey2450 5 жыл бұрын
Holyfield . . Golota . . Tua. . . Michael Grant . . Shannon Briggs . . . To name just a few that were on the juice when fighting Lennox Lewis
@boxingmonkey2450
@boxingmonkey2450 5 жыл бұрын
I remember the UK commentator either Reg Gutteridge or maybe Jim Rostenhal referring to Golotta spotty back and unhinged behaviour as a side effect of being on roids, when Lennox blasted him down and he attempted to get up struggling against the ropes , a total look of shock on his face
@IblewuponyourfaceIII
@IblewuponyourfaceIII 5 жыл бұрын
BOXING MONKEY Maybe so, when it comes to Sports competing against the best who already use Steroids, PED’s & other methods to gain an edge, I don’t doubt most use it. Including Lennox, Floyd was caught with the IV & not agreeing to Pacquiao’s testing contract after the fight for $5 Million. It’s hard to believe there’s nobody who does them.
@boxingmonkey2450
@boxingmonkey2450 5 жыл бұрын
If they keep samples and test them years and years later like in athletics . . . . boxing Greats like Holyfield and Jones could end up further and further down that ATG List
@carrain34
@carrain34 5 жыл бұрын
Steroids use is the reason I don't consider Evander Holyfield a top tier heavyweight. Some boxing people said Evander started using steroids back in 1988.
@waynethera2712
@waynethera2712 4 жыл бұрын
cat rice rice said
@davidrobertson6014
@davidrobertson6014 5 жыл бұрын
evander lol i still remember watching his fights when i was young and was like how tf do you get your shoulders the size of basketballs?
@WZ912
@WZ912 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox is right Jamaican food Rocks!
@skatingfae92
@skatingfae92 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis showing respect to former fighters by not badmouthing them and revealing them an their life choices. He took a clean approach, but he’s not hating on them for using roids, he’s like aight, challenge accepted.
@ryanrhoades5922
@ryanrhoades5922 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't stand Lewis when he boxed Tyson! I'm glad I watched this! Good dude
@ShadyNJ
@ShadyNJ 5 жыл бұрын
Lewis was always a good guy. It just sucked seeing Tyson lose.
@ryanrhoades5922
@ryanrhoades5922 5 жыл бұрын
That was probably it!! I was 13 I believe when Buster beat him and I actually cried ! Not sure why but I did! To see a hero like character lose to a Buster
@avancalledrupert5130
@avancalledrupert5130 3 жыл бұрын
Why Lewis is just better . I think short people Stan Tyson . Yea Tyson is great but being big long and authodox is better.
@kensisti2761
@kensisti2761 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis is such a class man.
@fernandoramoa7079
@fernandoramoa7079 3 жыл бұрын
side note: l'm blindly convinced Bolt was into something too new for the regulators to know. His records and that chart is simply impossible
@lazonaasombrosa8688
@lazonaasombrosa8688 2 жыл бұрын
While im sure that is most definetly true, he is also a specimen.
@blindingshadow3463
@blindingshadow3463 5 жыл бұрын
Steroids?? Steroids in combat sports???? Steroids dont effect durability??? Lennox lewis acting like he didnt juice himself, its priceless to me.
@blindingshadow3463
@blindingshadow3463 5 жыл бұрын
You can't bullshit a bullshitter.
@blindingshadow3463
@blindingshadow3463 5 жыл бұрын
@Patricio Jesus before during and after his short reign. Steroids were and are just as prevalent in combat sports as they are in body building. Just for different reasons. As far as I'm concerned, hormone replacement is an epidemic. It seems everyone at the top is taking it. For looks, vitality, strength, anti aging ect. So to say Lennox Lewis is innocent?? Only way that's possible is if he was being juiced without his knowledge. Like the NFL players in the sixty's when lunch came with unknown pills.
@blindingshadow3463
@blindingshadow3463 5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I base my claims on. Lennox fought in the era of juice, but yeah your right he was a boy scout and beat all the juicers. Bro I implore you to see just how fast and complete Lewis's transition was. He just didn't react as well to the drugs as holy field, but arguing with you over this, to me is like speculating on Arnold swarzanegger, but remember Arnold lied....it was his closest friends who outed him. Ask evander and Tyson if Lennox was juicing. Ask Teddy Atlas.
@blindingshadow3463
@blindingshadow3463 5 жыл бұрын
When they "prove me right" I will be smiling while you curse about something the world cares nothing about, you being wrong
@blindingshadow3463
@blindingshadow3463 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/in25gKl_rbRniq8 🎥 Nate Diaz Everyone's on steroids - KZbin
@DarkLordofTheSith69
@DarkLordofTheSith69 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox is a cool guy
@wass006
@wass006 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is one of the GOATs
@makkam999
@makkam999 5 жыл бұрын
AJ is on the juice
@deltatoofow
@deltatoofow 5 жыл бұрын
He used to sell em
@David-ix1uv
@David-ix1uv 5 жыл бұрын
Does AJ stand for anabolic juice?
@petermontgomery8707
@petermontgomery8707 5 жыл бұрын
Think you’ll find wilder is the one who’s weight is dropping like a stone since signing up for testing.Joshua has been on 24/7 testing since before the Olympics
@marksmang894
@marksmang894 5 жыл бұрын
The system is fucked
@EnochByrd
@EnochByrd 5 ай бұрын
0:30 HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? 👀
@thewedge8823
@thewedge8823 5 жыл бұрын
you can put muscles on your neck tho
@jeffgillson
@jeffgillson 4 жыл бұрын
The Wedge - you can 100% add muscle to your jaw, face, etc. neck muscles will help take a punch.
@DirectorHMAN
@DirectorHMAN 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffgillson there are NO MUSCLES on Ur Adams apple / throat
@Neo-ti2rz
@Neo-ti2rz 4 жыл бұрын
@@DirectorHMAN ask your mom.
@chedizl
@chedizl 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite era of boxing
@jackwilson6467
@jackwilson6467 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to bet that the majority of them are using roids. Too, much money at stake.
@ho2673
@ho2673 5 жыл бұрын
Jack Wilson they do I agree
@SiLoMixMaster
@SiLoMixMaster 5 жыл бұрын
Joshua apparently has an 'exemption' to be allowed to use testosterone. Doesn't get any more blatant than that
@irena7777777
@irena7777777 5 жыл бұрын
Except Anthony Joshua. Cleanest heavyweight of all time
@jamiewilson8253
@jamiewilson8253 5 жыл бұрын
More than likely tbh.
@irena7777777
@irena7777777 5 жыл бұрын
@@joys8634 No way. If AJ was on roids, he'd have muscle definition. He's skinny
@olympicjbrag5913
@olympicjbrag5913 5 жыл бұрын
Jamie...you gotta turn the brightness down on the screen man Joe's burning his fucking retinas.
@ferguscasey4151
@ferguscasey4151 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox used them too. All you have yo do is look at him in the Amateurs vs champion. No disrespect to Lennox I like him but all the top fighters use them if the can get away with it same with athletes in general.
@Blank-wb6zp
@Blank-wb6zp 5 жыл бұрын
@Patricio Jesus nine TEEN is still a teenager.
@NoelWeldon1980
@NoelWeldon1980 5 жыл бұрын
1st thing he did when Joe brought up the subject was to say me pointing at his chest with both hands...classic deflection technique..he was feeling guilty.
@sama7085
@sama7085 5 жыл бұрын
YOO BIG RUSSEL P NEEDS A PODCAST
@popdog75
@popdog75 3 жыл бұрын
Holyfield was one of my favourite fighters of all time but he was a steroid user!!! The heart condition he suffered against Michael Moorer is a dead give away!
@sirtrollalot7762
@sirtrollalot7762 4 жыл бұрын
HAHAH the way Joe says Tour de France all the while pronouncing Lance in an American way is funny dude
@kanguessokang9918
@kanguessokang9918 5 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever accused or suspected Mike Tyson of being on the juice? Interesting that hardly anyone associates Tyson’s name with steroid usage. The guy was 5’9” built like a tank, super fast and powerful. If Mike Tyson was 20 years old today in 2019 as opposed to 1986, people would have accused him of being on the juice. Not saying he was, just saying we live in the days of steroids accusations
@Vastspartan
@Vastspartan 2 жыл бұрын
He admitted to never being on steroids. He admitted using coke and other drugs but never steroids.
@MrIncognito-z5e
@MrIncognito-z5e Жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson was 200 pounds when he was 12 years old. The guy is just naturally huge. Already a fridge at 13. He says that his ancestry is Congolese and that his grandmother from his mother's side was a very strong woman and that's where he gets his knockout power from. His grandma was a maid in a white woman's house and her husband kept hitting the woman so she stepped up and told the woman's husband to not hit his wife, but he took it as a joke so Mike's grandmother who was described to be a big woman, knocked him out in one punch it seems. Next day he politely greeted her and became a changed man. Never hit his wife again is what it said.
@davebird8332
@davebird8332 Жыл бұрын
he said he used steroids in prison... went on to fight after..., the meanest picture of tyson was the first fight after jail. wrong@@Vastspartan
@davebird8332
@davebird8332 Жыл бұрын
i found read that too in his biography. tyson still juiced,,, he was used to drugs being all arounf him... you read the same book... a drug is a drug is a drug as they say @@MrIncognito-z5e
@ChocolateMilk..
@ChocolateMilk.. 11 ай бұрын
@@MrIncognito-z5e lol
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 4 жыл бұрын
Short answer: Yes. Long answer: Yyyyeeeeeeeesssssssss
@battlevain
@battlevain Жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield were both on PEDs. In an interview, Evander mentioned that when, he and Mike trained for the Olympics, Mike could train for much longer than anybody else. This is a forgotten component of PEDs. Increase endurance and increase recovery times. Mike should have kept growing if he was natural as he won the title in his early 20s. Evander was a pumped up cruiserweight. Boxing is a sport were gaining weight and still being very fit is almost impossible. Fitness leads to weight loss but Evander got bigger and fitter which is another sign of PEDs. George Foreman at 40 still had genuine knock out power years after retiring because he was born strong, same as Lennox. These guys don't shrink and take their power intact with them into old age.
@enigma533
@enigma533 Жыл бұрын
U dick.. Tyson never had roids.. Holyheadbutt shit on roids..Tyson never tested positive for any performance-enhancing drugs during his hall-of-fame career, although he did admit to using a PROSTHETIC PENIS filled with urine to pass a test
@TheGarlicfather
@TheGarlicfather 3 жыл бұрын
Lennox acting like he didn’t use steroids 😂
@freezhollywood
@freezhollywood 5 жыл бұрын
Holyfield def used it when he came outta retirement briefly and those Tyson fights is what showed them roids
@BC-pl3df
@BC-pl3df 5 жыл бұрын
0:40 describes Anthony Joshua vs Ruiz 1 where in the corner AJ was talking about he doesn't feel fight.
@TheScottThomas
@TheScottThomas 5 жыл бұрын
He was a great great champion.
@granta3044
@granta3044 4 жыл бұрын
You can improve your neck, to decrease your punishment to the head. I believe it's the snap of the neck which rattles the brain, the punch does damage but the snap back of the head does way more damage.
@ELENAToysandFun
@ELENAToysandFun 4 жыл бұрын
evander holyfield he got caught with steriods.
@vasilisvasiliadis3256
@vasilisvasiliadis3256 3 жыл бұрын
Lennox so cool , true champion. Respect from Greece
@williamsmith8790
@williamsmith8790 4 жыл бұрын
There was no fighter of his generation that wasn’t on steroids.
@randomchampion4842
@randomchampion4842 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Wilson thanks for stating the obvious
@AManCalledDutch
@AManCalledDutch 4 жыл бұрын
including him
@RossKempOnYourMum01
@RossKempOnYourMum01 4 жыл бұрын
That's an absolutist, sweeping statement.
@Daygostylz
@Daygostylz 5 жыл бұрын
Alright kids. You heard it here. Joe Rogan says use steroids!! 😂
@houtexflex
@houtexflex 5 жыл бұрын
If all testing we're removed from professional sports, it wouldn't be the broken records we'd be surprised by. It'd be the lack there of.
@SKa-tt9nm
@SKa-tt9nm 5 жыл бұрын
You have any statistical proof or logic behind this profoundly stupid statement? Tell that to Eastern European Olympians, Mark McGuire and Ben Johnson.
@houtexflex
@houtexflex 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like we agree buddy. Damn, talk about profoundly stupid .
@KarmaKahn
@KarmaKahn 5 жыл бұрын
Steroids in boxing is a foregone conclusion. It's a freak show circus.
@issaal-andaloussi1202
@issaal-andaloussi1202 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe Holyfield and Frank Bruno .
@jamietobin4161
@jamietobin4161 4 жыл бұрын
Issā Marc-Alexandre not big frank my old son
@tightropehikes
@tightropehikes 5 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis is classy af. Like if you admire the shit out of this guy ❤️❤️❤️
@waynethera2712
@waynethera2712 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think there were too many sports that didn’t have issues with PED’s. Too much money on the line.
@randomjive7310
@randomjive7310 3 жыл бұрын
Lennox, show us the tapes of you and mike sparring! That would be awesome!
@alexmighty693
@alexmighty693 5 жыл бұрын
Long time since I heard someone say bully beef.
@JA-hf3td
@JA-hf3td 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@gabrielm.4554
@gabrielm.4554 3 жыл бұрын
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