"How can I see something that is not physical..." exactly.
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Great point!
@Dizerner18 күн бұрын
I only believe in things I can see, like black holes.
@Rev-bb9ej19 күн бұрын
The reverse presup troll is the gift that keeps on giving. 🤣
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
I'm glad you enjoy it!
@bertthompson474819 күн бұрын
Its so funny when an apologist is broken out of being the one asking the questions and suddenly find a sense of humour and sarcasm
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
I love this stuff!
@smolderingtitan18 күн бұрын
P1: My ability to reason comes from the existence of God. P2: I am unable to reason. C: God does not exist.
@Pinworm18 күн бұрын
More evidence that everyone is born an atheist and remain one until indoctrinated. Babies and toddlers cannot reason.
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Great point!
@JeffersonSpatchcock18 күн бұрын
JRobin saying he’s agnostic about God’s non-existence is a lie and a devastating admission that he may have been grifting for Jesus for years. 🤔
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Great point!
@wilberforce182619 күн бұрын
So weird how, when faced with presup that proves them wrong, they become a caricature of what they think atheists say and start asking "what's the argument for..." about literally every word.
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Very good point!
@vex16696 күн бұрын
The "Jordan Peterson Defense".
@TheGlobuleReturns18 күн бұрын
‘Prove it’ was a trend/game some people at my school used to play where they just kept saying that to everything and the other person would try and keep answering until it was impossible. Who would have thought years later it would become a dead serious and unironic tactic to defend the existence of god on discord.
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Very great point!
@seawolf764918 күн бұрын
LOL --- I like the catch phrase "main character in the battle of good and evil" JRobin attempted to balk at. Imma use that one now.
@realBreakfasttacos16 күн бұрын
You should! It's so fun to say!
@Qzopr119 күн бұрын
Having "JRobin" in the title is reason enough to pass on the video. His ignorance is only surpassed by his smugness. I'll try but make no promises. Thanks Taco.
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
LOL
@littlefurrow243716 күн бұрын
Yeah... it's the ONLY reason I viewed it.
@realdjungleskog18 күн бұрын
One of the funniest things about these guys is that they have no sense of irony or self-awareness. I heard one of them (not Jrobin) say, at one point, "It's like talking to a bot." They're THIIIIIS close to getting the point.
@Bubblewench4218 күн бұрын
Too true
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Excellent point!
@FRMurOWNopinion18 күн бұрын
Taco, I think your catch phrase of “why do you want to be a main character in the battle of good vs evil so badly” is pretty cool
@realBreakfasttacos16 күн бұрын
That makes me so happy!!
@jasonblackmore890419 күн бұрын
I saw a jrobin video, and i just had to turn it on and watch. He's amazing at accepting premises that destroy his worldview. Then, when it's explained how it does that, he backtracks and claims he never said that, it doesnt ’t mean that, or asks whats the argument for that? I havent watched this yet. Did i get it right? Lol.
@Bubblewench4218 күн бұрын
LMBO
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Absolutely!
@benlinus131019 күн бұрын
The infinite regress is not a formal fallacy in philosophy as far as I know. Even so, wouldn't God have the same problem?
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Great point!
@smolderingtitan18 күн бұрын
What could I read to understand whether infinite regress is a fallacy or not?
@ottomaddoxx536018 күн бұрын
JRob should have continued to remain silent on the internet, instead of jumping on after having quit for a while. I thought for a second he might have gotten some sense into him. It was a bad idea for him to try to get back into this stuff.
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
JRobin is funny
@rafaelallenblock19 күн бұрын
Here is Darth Dawkins proof: p1If AAAAAYtheistic NAAAAAturalistc ReALLLLLllllity exists then we would be able to reason. p2 We are able to reason therefore conclusion AAAAAAAAAAYtheistic NAAAAAAAAAturalistic ReAALLLLLLLIIIiity exists. Checkmate.
@babotond19 күн бұрын
shouldn't p1 be more like if AAAAAYtheistic NAAAAATuralistic reAAAALity didn't exist, we wouldn't be able to reason? because otherwise it's affirming the consequent.
@rafaelallenblock19 күн бұрын
@@babotond That's the whole joke: DDs arguments, despite being corrected multiple times, revolve around affirming the consequent. Google "Darth Does Logic" and enjoy
@babotond19 күн бұрын
@@rafaelallenblock my mistake, sorry lol
@derkylos19 күн бұрын
@@babotond Affiliating the consistent, you mean, surely?
@babotond19 күн бұрын
@@derkylos i said what i said, and don't call me shirley.
@Ryan-ww5xt18 күн бұрын
You remind me of a character from office space… i am adverse lol however i love your atheistic presup so ill suck it up and enjoy your awesome content
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
That is funny!
@vex16696 күн бұрын
I am low-key amazed that he seriously doesn't get your point.
@realBreakfasttacos6 күн бұрын
They never do
@Altitudes18 күн бұрын
This is what they do...
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
THIS IS WHAT THEY DO!
@smolderingtitan18 күн бұрын
JRobin's presupp past comes home to roost.
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Yes!
@koki84ji718 күн бұрын
Robin is still going? Gets shit on for years and years but dude is still going 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Yes he is! Sounds like he's Agnostic now.
@BarrySchanz19 күн бұрын
You can't handle the truth 😱
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
I think you are confused!
@babotond19 күн бұрын
this is not even bad faith, this is rotten, moldy, cockroaches-wouldn't-touch-it faith jfc
0:45 My question is a theist would assert that their “special” revelation comes from god. From a naturalistic perspective where would you receive the “special” revelation from? I get that taco is using the presup argument against these Presup theists, but just curious about that thought I had. I also think I understand the argument that if god reveals himself through our senses and reasoning and the theist has never seen god or any supernatural being or thing then the theist is admitting supernatural beings or things do not exist…I think…any one feel free to correct me if I got it wrong, ty
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Special revelation is just reason silly.
@JeffersonSpatchcock18 күн бұрын
JRobin is not fairing well here.
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
LOL
@Weirdaman19 күн бұрын
Literally broken, hahaha, he went into a loop. Hahahah. Gj.
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Yes Looping!!!
@luisbenitez989217 күн бұрын
11:05 why do you run away and yap when someone has a actual point against your point and you just mute him? I wanted to hear you refute him. And you just kept ignoring his questions. What kind of debate tactic if this?
@realBreakfasttacos16 күн бұрын
It's called hyper focusing JRobin.
@luisbenitez989216 күн бұрын
@@realBreakfasttacos it also called Running.
@lightbeforethetunnel7 күн бұрын
@luisbenitez9892 Muting interlocutors ensures fallacies can't be invalidated.
@LookOutForNumberOne18 күн бұрын
JRobin was the old puppet from Darth Dawkins
@MattSingh118 күн бұрын
*He was demolished a number of times by KingXerxes.*
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Yes he was!
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Xerxes is christian now.
@davids1113111318 күн бұрын
Jrobin about a year ago said he’s moving on from being a ridiculous presuper, he said he needs to get on with his life…but now he’s back here doing presup garbage so I guess he failed at getting on with life.
@jonparker572819 күн бұрын
Jrobin is back? Oh no🥲
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Sounds like hes agnostic now!
@dbt522418 күн бұрын
Christian presupps are clearly not of sound mind.
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
LOL
@Boneworm85218 күн бұрын
I think you're cool. 😎
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
You are cool too!
@Dizerner18 күн бұрын
You just baldly assert your own perceptions have to be 100% accurate and your own reasoning is 100% perfect, then you unjustifiably attribute perfect morality to your own estimations, then you hijack language to bolster your feeling of certainty like "revelation," then you just badger and insult and kick anyone that disagrees with you. That is not a "logically valid" argument.
@KEvronista18 күн бұрын
here's a logically valid argument for you: p1: that which occurs at no time and no place is that which never occurs. p2: creation of the universe ccurred at no time and at no place. c: creation of the universe never occurred. :) KEvron
@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
Inductive arguments cannot be logically valid silly. Hope in discord and I'll deconvert you real quick.
@KEvronista18 күн бұрын
@@Dizerner *"anyone that[sic] disagrees with you"* jrobin agreed with him. KEvron
@13shadowwolf18 күн бұрын
Reality is Self-Evident and Self-Revelatory. "god" is neither Self-Evident, nor is "god" Self-Revelatory. Theists have had thousands of years stringing together nonsense gibberish and claiming they have created "arguments" for their "god" Without the Thousands of years of Traditions of Accepting Nonsensical Gibberish as "truth", Theism would be treated the same as Scientology.
@Dizerner18 күн бұрын
@@13shadowwolf If reality were self-evident and self-revelatory, why does anyone ever have a wrong opinion about it? Why don't you naturally realize through reason and sense that matter is mostly space? Why does it take further deduction and data to learn that your perceptions are actually deceiving you? Turning it back to theist mistakes is just changing the topic to get out from under the heat. I think theists make the exact same mistakes, so it's irrelevant.