Striper Surf Fishing - Darter Lures on the Beach - Part 2

[@m00nsplitter72]

This makes perfect sense. I have noticed the same photophobic response in brown trout.

[@EliasVFishing]

Even on the kayak I end up shutting the bite down temporarily sometimes with my headlamp if I need to retie or take some photos etc. I even started shutting off my fish finder if I get on fish in less than fifteen feet of water. There's a reason every time you set up on what seems like an infinite amount of fish, catch a bunch and they turn off! Sense of danger, or human disturbance it's something to think about.

[@JohnSkinnerFishing]

+EliasV I agree on the fishfinder. I've got a spot that I sometimes fish at night in 25' and I need the ff to find it and set up properly. When I get there the screen is loaded. After a few drifts, they're gone. I'm not even sure they're all bass.

[@indeepship____3944]

For the headlamp try using a red light or put a red filter over your light.

[@seaside4208]

If u release them they alert school striped bass language

[@edwardegnor8812]

Hey John I know this video is old but like you mentioned using the tiny red light if you use the headlamp with red light it won’t bother the fish at all I’ve used one at night fishing for large mouth bass to see the bank from a boat and caught many large fish casting up on the bank and dragging it back they can’t see it like white light also use it striper fishing here in south jersey

[@Chag2point0]

Always great to see your videos Mr.Skinner

[@risenflame]

This video is SO vindicating. I yell (scream?) at folks all the time about lights, and they almost ALWAYS respond with an "F YOU". Bet these are the same folks complaining about no fish while I'm knocking out 100 fish nights. I'm sending this to every fishing friend I have.

[@gothivore277]

I usually have this problem with fish poaching immigrants, especially when I'm opposite a bridge. Not only do they shine flashlights over the water they also point them right in my face. To top it all off they want all the undersized Bass I catch and get mad when I tell them no and throw them back

[@patrickmoffitt849]

It takes fish from 30 to 60 minutes to adapt to light changes because they can't dilate their pupils and are therefore more susceptible to being "blinded" at night by a stray light. It would seem logical that bass would avoid a stray temporary light source as a result. Although you will often find them feeding around a fixed light at night.

[@Salty80556]

Have you found or tried lures with flourescent paint and use a black light to make them glow? Pardon the spelling. I have used this successfully on deep rock fish; 300-500' deep. I am new to surf fishing have not even been out at night yet.

[@htxfish8651]

Aside from going back to your fav. spots, do u study the tides for sandbars, troughs, etc. Would love to see a vid of that. Thanks for the vids!!

[@risenflame]

look up "reading the beach" there's a great something like 5 point series here on KZbin

[@RH421939]

intersesting about the lights,, i usually bring a dewalt flashlight but usally keep it turned away from the water so i can see a little bit,, will have to try the complete dark

[@AnxietyTherapy]

What about fishing shadow lines? I fish bridge shadow lines and goes pretty well. Can bridge lights also be a deterrent?

[@JohnSkinnerFishing]

Stationary lights like bridge lights are a positive because they attract bait and produce shadow lines.

[@AnxietyTherapy]

@ thank you! :) thanks for all you do I learn a lot from your videos. I have chronic pain and striper fishing has been improved my quality of life physically and mentally! It’s great learning from you and others and catch more fish!

[@HookedwithBernie]

John, I’ve been researching darters since I’ve never used them before in the surf. One piece of info I’ve never really been able to find would be about using them in deep water. Have a good spot on a beach by me that has a channel about 20-30 yards out with some nice current, but pretty deep. Would it be feasible to still throw a darter?

[@JohnSkinnerFishing]

They run pretty shallow, so I might consider bucktails or swimshads for what you describe.

[@HookedwithBernie]

@@JohnSkinnerFishing figured as such, thanks John. You’re the man.

[@gabrielM1111]

Do you catch on almost every cast on the regular or is this a rare occurrence on the surf

[@JohnSkinnerFishing]

Rare occurrence.

[@GALIZAPIKAROBALIZA04]

Excellent video, nice fish.

[@MrOkShin]

Thanks for the upload Mr. Skinner! Will you be at the Striper Day convention at Hofstra?

[@JohnSkinnerFishing]

+John Shin (Mr John Shin) Yes!

[@MIKEDAMIEN3]

In the daytime I can see there is a blitz going on with all the birds working. How would you know at night if there's a blitz happening right in front of you? Do birds work at night too?

[@heyjerryfishing]

Good stuff thanks for sharing!

[@scannercrash]

Excellent video, thanks for the resource!

[@alaine8800]

I seem to hook stripers on the outside of the mouth instead of the inside with darters quite frequently. It looks like one of the fish you caught had the same result. Does this occur often for you?

[@shannononeal5410]

What size darter is this ? I never used one before but I would like to try it .

[@JohnSkinnerFishing]

Super Strike Zig Zag comes in only one size.

[@bushleague3472]

Wonder if anyone has ever used these in freshwater for anything? In allot of pike/ musky fishing situations I want a lure that will cast a long ways, run shallow, and work around weeds. With no protruding lip it seems like they would do well around weeds, and they seem to be built for long casts/ shallow water. A pike will hit a pretty fast moving lure, on a fast retrieve could they work without current?

[@longislandfishing6150]

It always amazes me on fish can see in pitch black water

[@risenflame]

They "see" but they also rely on lateral lines to sense vibration. That's what they primarily rely on at night. Match the "vibration" pattern of the bait can sometimes be helpful in catching!

[@marpar3971]

i think sometimes the fish can hone in on the shadow the lure cast .

[@MIKEDAMIEN3]

Is the night spot the same spot you fished at day time?

[@jeanday303]

I used to own a SSV6500 BLS, but would consistently break off lures on the cast.....I was told at my local tackle shop that on the cast, the spool had to be higher than the roller.....I tried this, and still had break offs.....Any tips on how to cast with this reel and not break off the lures?

[@markketello5757]

What about light that is always there, say a parking lot light on a pier that is lit every night, all night. Do you think that too deters Striper?

[@JohnSkinnerFishing]

A stationary constant light is often good because it attracts bait and casts shadow lines that the fish can use for ambush positions. Good question.

[@bartsbaits7482]

Very Educational, i appreciate this video

[@f-castrofishing5987]

thanks for the video John

[@josefigueroa5307]

what is the best lure night time for stripers

[@alangonzalez3296]

You should go out for winter flounder and get some video of it.

[@alangonzalez3296]

+Ny Jeep Adventurer really?im seeing a bunch of flounder over here in a nj pier and there is some pretty big ones too

[@splendidbeastie691]

How do u catch them like this? Im amazed. I can never even get a bite.

[@michaelhanlon732]

last oct im at long beach and the beach patrol is up and down and theyre shining their spot light on me when they pass. about the 3rd time i waved them down and told them to stop theyre spooking the fish lol and they stopped. only got on that night though.

[@michaelhanlon732]

+Michael Hanlon one*

[@viper2788]

Do you spool the entire reel with 30 lb braid? Or do you have some sort of backing to take up space?

[@JohnSkinnerFishing]

+viper2788 I put on a full 300 yard spool and back that up with old line, or mono.

[@junaidahmed3980]

Great video as always John. Do you have a schedule for the off-season on your lectures yet?

[@TheCountrystuff13]

How often do you fish?

[@FishTechX]

Hi John, quick question. Are you familiar with the Shimano Tiralejo surf rod? If so, what are your thoughts on it?

[@DanielRodriguez-ig1be]

+Julio Lopez my buddy has one. its only good for a specific shimano reel. something about the islets being up so high

[@FishTechX]

I'm looking for a new rod for next spring here in RI so thought I'd ask. I was looking at the tiralejo and the St. Croix Mojo

[@DanielRodriguez-ig1be]

+Julio Lopez i like tsunami's 11 foot or 9 foot airwave elite. st croix is a great rod as well. i know dicks sells certain lamaglas models. its really preference. st croix is probably your best bet for a 1 piece rod if you dont want to spend $300+. if your looking for a 2 piece, go with the tsunami. i got mine for about $160 on ebay.

[@FishTechX]

Ny Jeep Adventurer I can't afford something like that sadly. A buddy of mine works at Bass Pro and I can get either of the rods I mentioned above for well under $200 with his employee discount. Maybe one day after I'm done with college I'll be able to afford something better.

[@FishTechX]

+Daniel Rodriguez Yeah, 2 piece is what I'm looking for since it can take it apart just put it in my car. I can get the Mojo for about that same price you paid for the Airwave since my buddy works at Bass Pro and he can buy it with his employee discount.

[@elveciojunior]

Thanks for the video! Thanks for share.

[@tolpacourt]

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[@SlammedTL]

What's the best bait for small striper

[@Fshifty]

Try the Tsunami Eel, it's a great producer when I'm catching schoolies

[@SlammedTL]

+Yeah puss ok thanks

[@sodeloutdoors8047]

I fish off a dock after work next to where the headboat I work on is docked. I use a 3/8 ounce egg weight above a swivel 16 inch leader little circle hook and any type of fish flesh/ cut bait. Can catch like 20 stripers in an hour. The reason for this is a guy cleans fish for people right next to where I fish

[@SlammedTL]

+Tanner Virden dang where do u live

[@deegs7104]

+zacharywedding1 any small soft plastic whether it be a bass assassin, or a zoom fluke etc on a small jighead is a killer, the weight of the jighead will depend on the depth of the water your fishing,

[@jacoblopez5908]

nice thats the south shore?

[@JohnSkinnerFishing]

+Jacob Lopez correct

[@elleshaners1677]

What time of year is this?

[@JohnSkinnerFishing]

+Shane Ellers November

[@InTheFlow66]

I understand how you vary the retrieve speed, but are you twitching the pole at all like you might with a different type of plug?

[@JohnSkinnerFishing]

Mostly steady pressure to get the plug wobbling. Occasional lifts more than twitches.

[@InTheFlow66]

@@JohnSkinnerFishing Thank you sir!

[@tolpacourt]

Oh man. All those birds tell me this was a good blitz.

[@seaside4208]

Thumbs down u 6 are tripping John videos help me 200 plus fish saltwater west coast striped bass

[@seaside4208]

Cencal baby