Who Makes Better Movies? Marvel vs DC | Middle Ground

[@writer-dk8jt]

Now, this is an incredible example of what REAL fans look like. They didn't throw hate towards each other's opinions, they weren't rude or standoffish. They listened to each other and were civil, whether or not they agreed in their minds, they were still polite to one another while also gushing about their fav movies. I love this video!

[@jjmoore3327]

stan lee would be proud

[@ccelite3782]

I am a Animated DC Movie Fan and Live Action Marvel Fan

[@hottestgloss5576]

I really agree with you as a bts fan. It’s really hard to stay being a calm fan while antis take super big efforts into provoking us daily but mostly we do it with ease. I’m really proud of what fans can be now. Because thru history they were always associated with some toxic, super focused on personal tastes, obsessed stalker while now it’s really different to be a fan

[@Realtrilltacion]

When the superheroes disagree in either marvel or dc they fight it out first 😏

[@MagicalMandi]

The rivalry needs to die. Superheroes are amazing across the board.

[@thomguem6560]

Girl: I don't like tobey's spiderman. Marvel fans : What ? DC fans : What ?

[@tobiaslawrence8928]

Honestly i dont like Toby's spider man either i think he's to moppy when compared to tom holland and andrew Garfield who are both energetic goofballs😅😅 who have charisma.

[@brinkleymaster8118]

Too be honest I like Sam Raimi Spider-Man Trilogy, but I don’t love it, I see where she’s getting at, these movies can be very cheesy, I mean yeah this was a Marvel Legacy Era before MCU was arrived, we have X-Men, Blade and Fantastic Four, the Punisher, and not good others like Hulk, Daredevil, Man-Thing, Ghost Rider and Elektra. this was in the 2000s not all superheroes can be perfect beside The Dark Knight Trilogy.

[@ansri24]

i agree tho 😬

[@EmmaKate0888]

@@tobiaslawrence8928 same tom jut fits the roll better

[@tonybeltran4366]

@@EmmaKate0888 just on age but his movies dont have the level of heart that tobeys did and they also ruined side characters in the new movies

[@TS--]

Me being a DC fan I was happy when I saw that the other DC fans are not being trashed on by the Marvel fans because let's face it, it's hard being a DC fan nowadays. I also loved how civil they all were towards each other and their opinions, that's how real fans look like, respect for the Marvel fans

[@Tribrid-zv3nq]

It may be hard in terms of movies cuz the MCU fanboys love to troll. But DC wins in comics, animated series, cartoons and games

[@certifiedbrackernenjoyer.6545]

@@Tribrid-zv3nqYep

[@ednajay5724]

I LOVE how respectful, honest, and OBJECTIVE they are. I love how all the DC fans KNEW their heroes are not more relatable than Marvel's, and I love how Marvel fans KNEW their (our) side would lose in a fight. It shows not just blind fandom but objective love and understanding for what their universe (multiverse) brings to the table. This video was SOOOOOO much fun to watch. I really enjoyed the conversation!

[@Movie_Blizzard]

Marvel forever

[@joelcarmen6963]

@@Movie_Blizzard nah marvel kind of overrated

[@Movie_Blizzard]

@@joelcarmen6963 not at all

[@Edwin-gt4yv]

avengers vs justice league, jl would win but if its marvel vs dc, marvel wins

[@joelcarmen6963]

@@Edwin-gt4yv I mean DC has some really important industry defining moments, so no

Might be a weird opinion but finally a middle ground episode where everyone is actually normal

[@aznbond3279]

extremely true

[@ultraviolent3426]

ikr i was expecting this episode to be chaotic

[@breakdancingcat]

fr it's super chill

[@NC-nr9qg]

What do you mean by "normal"?

[@EzartJMir]

They were there to be "grounded"

[@DISCOCAT_]

nothing was toxic, crazy how much movies and comics bring people together.

[@daniru_theslime]

Yeah. Like sports

[@mike353]

Nah, these are just the nice ones but mfs be wilding fo sho.

[@mike353]

Nah, these are just the nice ones but mfs be wilding fo sho.

[@Wild_as_a_taliban]

Yeah I hate it 😂

[@krau2880]

@@daniru_theslime nah sadly sports have been tearing people apart recently

[@Wermified]

“Marvels not dark and gritty” Did everyone just forget Daredevil and the Punisher? 😩

[@grimthereaper933]

Don't forget to mention Blade too lol

[@ryc5636]

Thats tv shows but in the movies its not dark compared to Dc

[@Purtle]

But DC is a whole lot more dark and gritty as a whole

[@kaylaeubanks9313]

@@ryc5636 right and not as mature

[@kaylaeubanks9313]

@@Purtle right

[@ronnelshepherd5184]

Superman is relatable, hes a reminder of what unchecked power can do to a person. Batman is a reminder of how well rounded a person can be The Flash, shows that you can't keep running away from your problems. Growing up on DC I learned lessons with each character, and I may have gotten some of these themes wrong but I'm explaining what I've gotten from them growing up, what these characters mean to me, and not what they're supposed to mean

[@firstlast9846]

I’d say Batman is a reminder of trauma - - literally him and all his villains are formed from it and either became better (Batman / Red Hood etc.) or worse (Joker, Two Face etc.)

[@CaliMex96]

Dc fans coping

[@ronnelshepherd5184]

@@firstlast9846 True, what I also learned from Superman is that just because you have power doesn't mean your invincible

[@Neon1880]

Ya but Peter Parker is a literal teenager, he doesn’t know what to do. You also completely got 2 of your 3 points wrong. Superman is a symbol of hope, he isn’t supposed to be what unchecked power can do to a person. That would be what villains represent. Batman is supposed to represent trauma and overcoming that, not how well rounded people are. Yes the flash is about facing your problems head on

[@calebchristensen900]

@@firstlast9846 Was gonna say, Batman is nowhere near a rounded person. I don't think someone would commit to a life of vigilantism at the young age of 8 without having suffered some massive amounts of trauma. The character himself has even admitted he's criminally insane.

[@beckettpapa7325]

When he said Marvel and DC are American mythology that was so true.

[@joshuatheboshua9354]

fr

[@itsbritneybyotch7471]

.

[@coooooolioooooo]

You should read joseph campbell books!

[@joshuatheboshua9354]

@@coooooolioooooo who’s Joseph Campbell?

[@coooooolioooooo]

@@joshuatheboshua9354 he’s a mythologist, writer and professor. He wrote many great books (power of myth, hero with a thousand faces...) about this subject. Analyzing the myths of the east and west. Very fun and informative read! I would also recommend watching his interviews in the subject.

[@gamma_centauri]

I feel like DC and Marvel fans are the only fans that can have positive discourse because, typically speaking, they’re fans of both franchises, just moreso in one over the other.

[@shashavengesayi6055]

I def agree w/ this cause I love both but Marvel more

[@RShadow12]

@@shashavengesayi6055 I agree too, except I love both but DC more

[@shashavengesayi6055]

@@RShadow12 😂😂😂

[@jacobvega9092]

This is exactly it.

[@michaeljosephjackson2364]

Not like dbz fans

[@SuperDG333]

There should be a part 2 of this where the conversation is allowed to get deeper into the worlds of these characters and universes

[@calebchristensen900]

I'd love to see that. However, the problem is that each topic could go on for half an hour.

[@cormac154]

Even the DC fans were shocked when she said she didn't like the Tobey films.

[@bjird7278]

She is the type of girl who love nerdy girl get a prince not the opposite

[@corndog7813]

Ryan idolized Batman so much he manifested his voice irl.

[@tajjjjjj_]

@Nistriction better than Ben

[@anthonywalls692]

Ohhhhh I was like which Batman. WILL ARNETTE SOUNDS JUST LIKE HIM

[@ikwuamaesi4027]

😂 why was I thinking this

[@leroyvermilion7708]

@@tajjjjjj_ not really

[@tajjjjjj_]

@@leroyvermilion7708 Ben is probably the worst Batman I’ve ever seen live action. The justice league made Batman look like a joke and i haven’t even watched the movie so that should say something. Batman isn’t supposed to be making jokes trying to be funny while fighting one of the strongest beings in the dc universe

[@jeffm9481]

In the middle of the group hug, someone should have whisper "hail hydra"

[@dandelions_are_cool]

YES

[@youlikechickennuggets3902]

THAT WOULD’VE BEEN SO FUNNY 🤣

[@tinalove4324]

LMAOO

[@karenalabi2547]

NOT HAIL HYDRA🤣🤣

[@hondashiine8973]

Or say for darkseid

[@stefano215]

Marvel heroes are inherently more relatable, while DC heroes are more mythic, larger than life characters. You get different experiences as a consumer with both.

[@thehahvokexperience]

I don't know about that....

[@aria6420]

what

[@sirslime2433]

Not anymore, I found Batman to be far more relatable than the likes of the shitty Eternals. DC keeps releasing better and better movies and Marvel only gets shittier. You can tell that Disney has an agenda set.

[@remedysvulgar9592]

Huh?!?

[@Tribrid-zv3nq]

​@@sirslime2433 Eternals was a dumpster fire

[@amyli092]

SO glad that Shang-Chi made its way into this video! I loved that movie so much, and there's no racial bias needed to make that statement even though I'm Asian myself. Marvel just has a way of making representation seem natural and not forced. This conversation is easily one of my favorites that Jubilee has made

[@firstlast9846]

Ngl I disagree they’ve made representation feel forced before

[@bingkosubu3152]

Shang chi was a bad movie tbh

[@mr.pancakevlogs504]

@@bingkosubu3152 hell nah it was great

[@bingkosubu3152]

@@mr.pancakevlogs504 according to your standards not mine!

[@mr.pancakevlogs504]

@@bingkosubu3152 it might have been a little rushed but it wasnt bad not amazing but not bad

[@theonetheycallfear8237]

If y’all want to see actual nerd fights we need to have a Star Wars episode. One specifically dedicated to the Sequels versus the Prequels and Originals.

[@MegaCOOLBUG]

I would be so surprised if they even found three people willing to defend the sequels publicly

[@Walker-zk4eg]

facts

[@theviewer9305]

@@MegaCOOLBUG Said the same thing about the prequels up until 2012, but here we are.

[@theonetheycallfear8237]

@Katelyn McDonald remember some people only want to watch the world burn, and I am one of those individuals.

[@chavrios3007]

Bro….yes!!!!

[@destiny3992]

Best animated: DC Best live action: Marvel

[@PayArcanum]

The Dark Knight solos every Marvel movie.

[@5olarPan3L]

I see nothing but facts

[@teodjuyg56]

@@PayArcanum no

[@thana090909]

DC animations are GOATed.

[@Peter_739]

Marvel is just super next level animation.

[@Renram22]

This whole group was so nice, I'd love to sit and binge hero movies with them

[@stevendarniel]

For relatability, I think DC villains and anti hero’s are actually more relatable. That’s why we went crazy for joker, Harley, Cat-woman, the Riddler, Poison Ivy.

[@torymason5143]

Fact

[@cgsoldier4196]

As much as I love the deep sserious, political topics discussed in Middle Ground, it’s so refreshing to have an episode I can relax and smile at all the way through.

[@masterwindu1234]

AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

[@chic0latin0]

How about a real debate comic fans vs live action remake fans. Now that would be a very very interesting debate there

[@thomasgrant7267]

YEAH

[@HouseMDaddict]

You're a DC fan?

[@TheToucanSAM]

We need that

[@quickfireclip]

You just wanna see mf’s argue, just say it lol

[@devonmunn5728]

And maybe even indie comics. I feel like Marvel/DC overshadow indie comics alot

[@tamiacorea]

this kind of middle ground was so refreshing to watch. seeing different people actually coming together and agreeing on multiple topics was so nice to see

[@Karyder92]

I loved that despite their preferences, no one fought against another. There was so much mutual respect. We need more Jubilee videos like this.

[@tomiwaaina5499]

wtf everyone is agreeing. I clicked on this to watch nerd rage but this was so wholesome. Disgusting 😂

[@yaswante4105]

srsly 😂😂 they acted super civil

[@payt00n]

Ikr I expected a war lmao

[@happyjoe613]

If I was there I would be ranting about everything

[@downo]

ikr dc freaking rules

[@chasingstars5614]

It was so wholesome

[@draidyy119]

There's no such thing as "just Marvel fans" or "just DC fans", they're all hybrids and their preferred fandom depends on who's asking.

[@DMMINO493]

There is though, some dc fans absolutely despise marvel

[@DrSlobGoblin]

Exclusionists definitely exist in both fandoms. As a primarily DC fan, I've definitely seen more "DC only" people. Well, they're really more "anti-Marvel" than "DC only."

[@abishaipaul2298]

@@DMMINO493 there's a difference between a DC fan and the DCEU fan

[@beprochronistic1009]

@@DMMINO493 u livin under a rock or smthn? i have never seen a single comment in this section claiming marvel is dogshit. what i can def see are mcu fans saying "it aint even a competition, dc movies sucks".

[@jokertheinsaneclown3136]

@@DMMINO493 bruh goes both ways.

[@Radcap97]

I absolutely love Marvel! The new DC movies aren’t really that great imo, but one of my favorite DC movies is The Dark Knight. I love that DC is darker and more vulnerable, that’s the only thing I wish the MCU could capture hopefully in an origin story

[@fxrdo]

I completely agree. I would say I am definitely more of a Marvel fan but some of my favorite superhero films are DC. I am extremely exited for The Batman because we havent had that grungy, hero at their breaking point type film from Marvel I dont think ever. The closest we’ve seen to this is probably 2008s Hulk, which was multiple years before the MCU was even a thought.

[@2kparkhighlights567]

Logan

[@sibzism]

I'm a huge DC fan (for my sins - yes, I loved BvS and I gloated about being right about ZSJL) 🤣 but I LOVED Netflix's Hell's Kitchen stuff (APART from The Defenders- which was an unmitigated disaster imo). 😊 But I thought Daredevil and Iron Fist were very well done! And I thoroughly enjoyed Luke Cage and Jessica Jones! In fact, Daredevil was so well scripted, I could swear it was written by someone from DC! Lol there's definitely something great on both sides I think 😀

[@drasticturnip358]

@@2kparkhighlights567 joker, suicide sqaud 2, Batman.

[@AlvinWazHere]

So the movies made you pick Marvel. If both Companies swapped I wonder if you’ll have the same vote.

[@sammckinnon8570]

Not hating on either side because I’m a huge fan of both and I love DC and Marvel so much, but all three of the Marvel fans here aren’t actually Marvel fans…they’re MCU fans. I’m sorry, but almost all of their points were about the movies. The comics have so much more to offer and it’s pretty clear the DC fans are actual fans of more than the movies

[@petermj1098]

The DCEU lost to the MCU just like the Soviet program lost to NASA. No one cares what the Soviet program did when NASA landed on the moon. The MCU “landed on the moon” with Avengers Endgame. A major reason Marvel won because MCU actually focuses on a variety of different characters in their films and shows while DC is focused on Batman 80% of the time these days.

[@Zaeabun]

Can we get more lighthearted topics like this? This was so enjoyable and entertaining. I feel burnt out tbh by all of the serious middle grounds, especially when one side is obviously full of ignorant idiots and reminds yet again me why this world can be so shitty. Do a Star Wars vs Star Trek, Night owls vs Early Birds, or KFC vs Popeyes lol!

[@persona2is]

right! also cause as someone who's always in the minority it feels weird seeing ppl talk abt if u deserve rights or not,,, feels like high school all over again

[@TomLehockySVK]

Yes please, more stuff like this !

[@keithwaynejones]

dogs v cats

[@fiftyzanes]

@@keithwaynejones yess

[@ucanchoke]

KFC vs Popeyes LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[@tiongenakazwe]

dc animated series will forever have my heart

[@ardentlyarie]

totally agreeeee💓

[@newagehero9605]

You are right about that and I’m a marvel fan

[@itrrii6582]

I agree

[@SHINJIxCORE]

DC animated series AND animated movies 😌👌

[@abdulsamadamari9075]

Especially, the Harley Quinn series

[@asiamonet5981]

I feel like DC makes better TV shows overall, but Marvel takes it for me with the movies

[@lotusinn3]

I’m of the same opinion!

[@vronxee6873]

Marvel makes movies for kids

[@unknownuser9715]

@@vronxee6873 marvel makes movies for all ages including kids*

[@vronxee6873]

@@unknownuser9715 kid

[@kaydens5464]

@@vronxee6873 completely wrong

[@anguyen2808]

loved this middle ground episode. It was a nice breath of fresh air to have a topic that wasnt so heavy. Please do more like these!!!

[@Jjjj-zs6pf]

Marvel executes the movies better, DC's animated universe (and comics) is better.

[@AxxLAfriku]

Do you want to hug me? Then I have to shatter your dreams: I am in a relationship with TWO females! They are also huge fans of me, YT Megastar AxxL! Please don't be too disappointed, dear j

[@aggern299]

hell no

[@donnyemig6001]

Their comics are better? Definitely on parr with one another

[@kern_es]

@@AxxLAfriku tf?

[@AkatsukiFlame3]

I’d definitely say the comics are pretty similar considering there are multiple authors that make different versions of each hero but the movies definitely go to marvel with the animated series going to DC

[@ahmedosman5691]

Dc is about Gods trying to be more human and Marvel is about humans having to become gods

[@Hoitado]

Not really but I see your point

[@theexpiredmarshmallow5382]

@@Hoitado not all of them are gods tho

[@kollisiondagod9305]

@@theexpiredmarshmallow5382 not all of dc are gods too I'm not bias I love both anime beats both anyway

[@rethabilemosia8200]

@The Leaprachaun I think they're saying generally

[@sarvashaymaharaj5860]

No DC is more about gods vs gods

[@ibra8348]

I’m a marvel movie fan for life but the Batman trilogy and the Snyder cut were 🔥.

[@WILDM1K]

Snyder Cut was so long 4 hours is too long

[@bruva-wy1xl]

This is probably the most civil, healthy argument I've ever seen when it comes to DC and Marvel fans

[@mr.nuclearnick5887]

as a DC fan it can easily admit Marvel has the better live action movies when it comes to cinematic universe. But when it comes to comic books and video games hands down it’s DC

[@Ajay25888]

The Dark knight series exists

[@OK-69420]

@@Ajay25888 so does Caps Trilogy

[@Youseekveek]

Why? And why the games?

[@vladtheimpaler4527]

@@Youseekveek Have you played the Batman trilogy? Seriously ahead of its time.

[@ceecue5367]

Spider-Man is making it's way up there in games.

[@yaral8782]

I’m kinda dissapointed that they aren’t all in cosplay though

[@Yng619]

Cosplay is basically another way to normalize predatory behaviors.

[@yaral8782]

@@Yng619 wait what

[@chilliam00]

@@yaral8782 he's talking about weeaboos.

[@teodjuyg56]

@@chilliam00 elaborate?????

[@rehemazabibu7493]

@@chilliam00 ummm what

[@maki9096]

Because of the movies, people forget that these characters were made for comics. When someone says Captain America, the first thing I think of is Chris Evans, an ACTOR, not a character.He is perfect for that role, you could even say REAL Captain, but It just hurts me that people form opinions about characters from comics based on a form of art that is not written as a comic. I'm not saying that everyone should read comics, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but little to educate themselves about that art format if it is already the place of creation of their favorite characters. I do not know. Maybe I'm just sad because people are limited to what Dc has to offer from movies and series without knowing the full potential of their characters and stories.

[@bullrun2772]

agreed

[@DDXNinja]

I like Comic Book Captaian America and the video game Captain America portrayed in the Marvel vs Capcom games. Oh and Cap from the X-Men Animated series when he teamed up with Wolverine was great also.

[@MarieAnnAdae]

This whole interaction was more civil and peaceful than I expected. Online forums and chats are the exact opposite 😂 I'm glad comic book fans could be represented this way. As a Marvel fan, there's been a lot of competition with DC. You'd join a group chat and have to fight for your life defending your stance. It's stressful!😂 Why can't comic book discourse be more like this?

[@fluffernutter9420]

The comments on Jubilee videos where people argue a lot: Sheesh, these people need to calm down and have a respectful conversation. The comments on Jubilee videos where people are calm and respectful: Darn, I wanted more drama. Lmao.

[@jnicole.]

Exactly. Humans like drama and chaos.

[@Bijoyoo]

Where? I don't see people complaining, in fact they praise the peaceful tones in this video.

[@fluffernutter9420]

​@@Bijoyoo There were quite a few popular comments like that a few days ago.... It's nice that they've been overshadowed by more positive comments, though.

[@handa_panda]

I like when the announcer said "our characters are relatable" us DC fans are like "Fvck"

[@BerbinKing]

Not actually. I relate more to Superman or I guess Clark Kent rather than Ironman. Just because Clark Kent is this awkward nerd who sucks at talking to ladies, and honestly I relate more to him rather than Tony who's a Billionaire, playboy, and has probably a 200 IQ. Most people think Marvel is more relatable because they aren't as powerful as DC. But DC has a human side too. I guess it depends on the character.

[@93King]

@@BerbinKing Exactly. There's a quote that I have seen circulated around for a couple of years. "DC heroes are gods trying to be human, while Marvel heroes are humans trying to be gods." Yes Marvel has more human heroes, or street level characters you could say, but that doesn't necessarily make them more relatable. Same thing with DC. Just because they're super powerful, it doesn't mean they're not relatable.

[@marymarvel]

Agree with the other people here. It's not black and white. I relate a lot to characters like Stephanie Brown & Barbara Gordon on more of a street level but I can also relate to Supergirl with her just trying to find her place in the world. Marvel & DC are both great!

[@handa_panda]

True, some are relatable but most of the characters are OP so I can understand why some Marvel fans are having difficult time trying to be relatable power-wise.

[@rajarshisantra8203]

DC has Batman. The definition of relatable. He's literally a guy dressed as a bat with no superpowers

[@4DaFam]

That girl buggin about the Sam Raimi films lol everybody was like whaaaaat???? 😭😭😭😭

[@traxagenda3445]

Even the DC fans got shocked when the girl said she didn't like the Tobey spidermans

[@user-jo6wr7yt3f]

As a DC fan when the girl said she doesn't like Tobey Spiderman movies i was shocked. I mean ....

[@damianmartinez3315]

Same

[@hittingyouoverthehead]

I'm a Marvel fan but I can understand why someone might not like those movies. Peter was way too weepy and whiny and "nice guy" in those movies. Also MJ was really annoying.

[@hadi3709]

@@hittingyouoverthehead Kristin dunts didn't do a good job her and Peter's relationship is the only reason I didn't like his movies and that's why I liked spiderman 3

[@hittingyouoverthehead]

@@hadi3709 I thought acting wise she did a decent job, it's just her character that was annoying. She was pictured as this prized asset/possession in all three films when I just didn't get what was so great about her. Gwen Stacy played by Emma Stone was better in this regard. I thought the Amazing Spiderman was worse than the Raimi trilogy except for Stone. Then there's Zendaya's MJ who is the best. I can't wait to see more of her.

[@Ayveh]

lol same

[@natalybasora9769]

Considering Comics as America's mythology is actually quite genius. I think I'd even agree, it's a pretty cool concept to think about!

[@kveld9893]

Considering that the US is a relatively young country and couldn't have it's own ancient mythos, it's pretty accurate.

[@nunyabiznez9800]

It becomes weird to think about when you realize marvel and dc include Norse and Greek mythology

[@93King]

@@nunyabiznez9800 Kind of. You have to remember the US was made up of other races, ethnicities, religions, cultures, etc. So it's not that off that it's "mythos" would include mythologies from other lands.

[@jaydel3]

The only thing is the term mythology tends to refers to religious stories.

[@ofeliamoctezuma8781]

It is not though, cause myths had this sense like maybe those things happened, whereas we know superheroes are not real

[@nana8286]

I don’t think we talk enough about DC animated. They are incredible and I think would make people change their minds about DC. They were heart warming and gave great advice

[@breannepreston4584]

I’m a marvel fan, I don’t like DC, but I do have to admit DC would win in a fight because every superhero is so OP.

[@jayborussell]

As an MCU fanboy I was so afraid to watch this, I hate seeing DC fans get trashed on. So happy this was not a whole DC vs Marvel war video 😀

[@pentiagocity2140]

Ikr

[@pentiagocity2140]

@Shaun Philip ok, dude..i'm more a marvel fan..I'm so sorry for that, sometimes every fandom always has that kind of fans. Including marvel fandom.. sorry.

[@nessaj6359]

MCU wins in Movies and Merch. But DC wins on Comics, Animated Series, TV Show series and Games.

[@imtheonehero9305]

You DCEU, not DC.

[@jayborussell]

@@imtheonehero9305 The title said "Better movies"

[@strawhatfluffy3480]

Its funny how they kept the girl who didnt like tobey maguire's spiderman actually in his suit in the thumbnail

[@Ayveh]

lmao I didn't even notice XD

[@danay7120]

honestly, her opinion on the spiderman trilogy is shocking. She's lying.

[@cloberlobster2276]

@@danay7120 not really, some just don't like it. Lime me.

[@danay7120]

@@cloberlobster2276 you are what we call in the UK a WRONG'UN.

[@cloberlobster2276]

@@danay7120 :3

[@broncobro0199]

When the girl said the Raimi Trilogy Peter isn’t awkward I lost it. Show most of Tobeys dialogue as Peter and the scene with “Rain Drops keep falling on my head.” And you’ve already proved how awkward he is

[@chelsey1087]

I love both dc and marvel. But if I had to pick only one, I’d go with marvel. Dc is still amazing though

[@thunderguy6164]

I love how all of them even the DC fans where like "WHAT!?" when the girls said she didn't like the Tobey Maguire Spiderman movies😂.

[@Ayveh]

lol right XD

[@GC-yw1mn]

I’m glad everyone in the comment section agrees that DC has better animation, and Marvel has better movies. But when it comes to the comics, I prefer DC.

[@emeliasversion]

i haven’t been able to read any of the comics but i definitely agree on the movie part

[@ZX235w3]

Marvel is too busy thinking up for their next lesbian hispanic self-identified no gender superhero

[@mysteriev7071]

@@ZX235w3 that's what happens if you're owned by Disney 😂

[@MaverickStonex]

Bruh DC movies solo marvel movies in every way The dark knight trilogy , wonder woman , Zack synders cut , joker movie .

[@justsomeguy8103]

@@MaverickStonex lmao dude, dark Knight and Joker you’re right about, not the others

[@Juju-Senju]

Uh oh the crimson chin said that superman got the personality of a brick🤣🤣🤣💀

[@shivamaggrahari4273]

Hands down the most lighthearted episode. Loved it

[@pigeonman7355]

Finally a real persons debate, imagine being childish and talking about politics, pfft babies.

[@broodingsoap9469]

funny how in politics, everyone is so childish, but in comics, everyone is mature. most of them.

[@preetipatel5512]

Although I am a DC fan, I do agree that marvel has better movies comparatively, and also WB is doing dirty to DC.

[@houseofmatrix6174]

They should’ve kept Christopher Nolan directing the films

[@houseofmatrix6174]

@John Doe i agree bro Matt reeves trailer looks great but we need to expand to other heroes

[@ligma3205]

@@houseofmatrix6174 Alot of things could happen after flash👀

[@houseofmatrix6174]

@John Doe 🙏🏿

[@houseofmatrix6174]

@@ligma3205 i agree but it’s like Batman is the one trick pony

[@ohitstorture]

Marvel makes better movies but dc is better in every aspect

[@emmalatz3582]

Everyone’s so confused why she doesnt like Tobey’s Spiderman, but he was so creepy. Spiderman is my favorite character, but Tobey’s Spiderman just gave off pervy stalker vibes

[@zoo8985]

For the toxic Fandoms when the girl was taking about being a female fan I felt that.

[@cow167]

@Azriel Cul female fans are rarely taken seriously and stuff, and it's pretty annoying, and a lot of the toxic fans never want female representation and stuff

[@michaeljosephjackson2364]

@@cow167 lol she never even touched a single comic book I can totally feel by what she was saying all the time

[@srijanumesh5355]

@@michaeljosephjackson2364 I dont think even the curly haired guy had read much comics. He has read a few, and knows enough about the charecters, but just like me, there is SOOO much Im still discovering

[@michaeljosephjackson2364]

@@srijanumesh5355 true comic book fans would say tobey is the best spiderman because it's actual representation of what stan Lee visioned

[@srijanumesh5355]

@@michaeljosephjackson2364 well true comic book fans would realise that spiderman was written by multiple writers, and while not created by them, they too saw spiderman their way

[@stillthinking3740]

I dont really understand how someone can ONLY like one universe. I love both, they both bring great things, tho of course I lean one way cause I grew up watching DC animated shows/movies. Like if you LOVE the genre of superheros, how can you only like one lmao? Wouldnt you want as much as possible?

[@portxr]

i guess it's more about who makes better movies and not refusing to exhibit the others comics or movies

[@dimbulb2959]

Give this man an award. I 100% agree with you

[@aspannas]

Yeah I never understood it, same thing about the "console war" between playstation and xbox, so ridiculous.

[@zaynaminmurtaza5751]

Well no, it’s not that you can’t love both, it’s that you can’t love how one executes their ideas. No comic fan I know hates dc, they hate how they execute their movies or execute their comic storylines. I don’t like dc movies because their movies are so badly executed that I can’t enjoy myself. But I love the comics and the characters.

[@stillthinking3740]

@@zaynaminmurtaza5751 Im not speaking on something specific like the rather bad dceu movies, I just been the franchise/universe in general. So your last sentence is my point, a true super comics and superheros fan will like both universe's because they're so large and all the different characters. There are fans that actually wont watch or read ANYTHING to do with the other universe and that makes no sense. THAT'S what im talking about, not about disliking the movies or how they execute SOME ideas

[@beatrizgoncalves1440]

As a marvel fan, I really enjoyed this video, they were so understanding and so cool about everything even when they had different opinions, and I can say I did agree with both marvel and DC fans on some things

[@livinginsin24]

I would love to have a conversation like this! I wish there were more areas where fans could just gather and talk through all this stuff. I'd have a field day.

[@mysticpenguin8327]

this is the best middle ground you've ever done, not toxicity and people tended to agree for the most part and i like how they each like the other side, but they just have a preference

[@OkamiiRamii]

I can't believe nobody can relate to superman. I relate to superman. Not in powers or origin. But humble upbringing, caring family, awkward teens, and an importance of morals...

[@Ray03595]

I’m not sure where the narrative that Superman is boring and unrelatable came from. Recent films and tv Shows have always tried to humanize him to a decent extent too. Maybe the older shows and movies didn’t do him many favors? It’s a strange thing for ppl to keep repeating though

[@moisepicard7919]

@@Ray03595 Right. Since, when has Superman ever been "boring?" And, everyone and anyone obviously knows Superman will never become "boring."

[@ian3087]

@@moisepicard7919 films and series of adaption ruined his character, can't blame the audience tho

[@pickle93]

@@moisepicard7919 nah the idea of him being almost invincible kinda sucks they should nerf him a bit.

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

@@pickle93 most superheroes are op, Sentry is a walking talking power check list. Also Superman isn't even the most powerful member of the team, that's the Flash

[@SublimeWanderers]

As someone who read comics for years before the whole MCU thing. I always felt like DC had better stand alone stories, and Marvel had better series week to week. Kingdom Come, Red Sun, The Killing Joke, and Dark Knight Returns are all amazing and probably my favorite comics, but Spiderman was amazing week in and week out. Brian Michael Bendis' run on Daredevil was unbelievable for years. Now that the movies are out, DC has ruined many of their characters for me. Batman is now just an angry meathead. He's no longer the hyper disciplined, detective and strategist, who also happens to be an amazing martial artist. Now he seems like punisher light and I am just disappointed because like everyone else he was always a favorite for me.

[@athena9260]

I don't exactly prefer Tobey's spiderman movies, but I just love how both the marvel and dc fans stared at the girl in pure shock

[@tristanhernandez2630]

I love how respectful they were of others opinions, and actually agreed with some things the other side had to say. I wish this is how all humans interacted

[@glitchchungus8318]

tell me who wins In a fight? darkseid or thanos? and why?

[@Rynnecc]

This was such a wholesome conversation! No one was throwing shade or putting others down. A+

[@adamm7135]

This is the most I've ever seen an agreement on Middle Ground.

[@mookankandiah3975]

Bruh i love the fact that even the dc fans defend tobey's movies

[@Zapatozi]

Fun fact: Jubilee is a Marvel character.

[@hittingyouoverthehead]

How did this not get more likes???

[@jessicalukram74]

Ha ha yes

[@camm8642]

familar to xmen fans in particualr

[@flolikeyou6053]

Fun fact: A jubilee also exists in DC

[@jasonmakitubeg183]

Okay smooth

[@darkodarko2803]

i prefer marvel but the Harley Quinn animated series is something marvel hasn't done. that show is amazing.

[@soupdiego4646]

modok on hulu check it out

[@sydneyflowers308]

I agree

[@matts5164]

DC alwasy have the better animated show. DC Animated Universe is one of the greater things DC has ever done.

[@kaisteven5907]

Nice to see actual friendliness between the 2

[@the_chaos]

At 15:30, when he talks about how Batman can solve all problems and out comes, I can see where he is coming from, but there is also time when he can't win. For example when he goes against hush or the riddler, or even in the Halloween series.

[@kendrikortega2239]

“Superman has the personality of a brick”🤣

[@abiyyupanggalih854]

kinda agree

[@emankhurram]

depends on the person writing him...

[@thedukeofchutney468]

Someone obviously doesn’t read Superman.

[@damilolaowolabi6716]

What! Have he/she watched "Superman and Lois"

[@cartindisjoint]

@@abiyyupanggalih854 read all-star superman bro

[@masonguthrie1257]

I feel like DC heroes' are not overpowered necessarily because their villains are just as strong so while the scaling is higher than marvel the stakes are still the same.

[@masonguthrie1257]

@cancel this wow that is so incorrect everyone and I mean everyone agrees that DC would crush marvel in a fight.

[@layedbackthomas]

I don't get this the Marvel heroes not being as strong or having as high of stakes as DC stuff.

[@datdamnkez]

It just depends really because marvel have heavy hitters that could beat some DC characters but I love both sides

[@imperceivablegaming9252]

The more OP the characters are, the more weaknesses they have. Superman could easily be defeated by magic or kryptonite or someone who’s stronger than him.

[@Neon1880]

@@imperceivablegaming9252 ya but they show him constantly overcoming that. “Oh we actually decided to make superman immune to magic, oh and he also is able to push past his kryptonite weakness” like what? There’s a reason he was given weaknesses

[@JohnSmith-pl4sf]

DC has been around since before WW2, DC comics has influenced society, the fact that they didn't mention joker is quite disrespectful

[@KamMeekMMAPLUS]

Exactly

[@andressandoval197]

Perfect example of what defines a fan

[@darrylt8502]

I think these people can cosplay well: Sarah: Gwen - Spider Woman Ryan: Batman Chris: Miles Morales - Spider Man Matt: Shang Chi Will: Dr. Strange Nick: Thor

[@RaxLakhani]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!

[@Hoitado]

No They couldn’t pull it off

[@cydneyo1817]

Agreed!

[@newagehero9605]

You right about Matt plus he’s hot just like the guy from 10 rings

[@cecefernandes5657]

I'm gonna admit that I expected far more hostility, mocking, disagreeing, etc but was pleasantly surprised. They're all respectful to one another and truly love what they're talking about.

[@paytonturner1421]

A KZbinr once said," Marvel heroes are people who relate to and DC heroes are people who you look up to".

[@crossfire6558]

This is how DC and Marvel fans should relate to each other, respectfully

[@tajanisc]

Gonna argue that relatability is hella subjective. I guarantee there's someone out there that relates to even Superman in some way.

[@upon136]

Superman is one of dc most relatable characters the movies doesn't show it unfortunately

[@yashmalik1889]

@@upon136 isn't superman notoriously not relatable? Like everytime he's in a bind he just goes stronger or gets a lantern ring or something

[@gabbysims9160]

I agree also Also it’s like a kid adopted form another country and seeing them struggle through school and the culture and you parents can’t relate to you either so it’s just you all by yourself trying to get three the world and if they really actually payed attention to DC they would see that marvel is humans trying to be gods and DC is gods trying to be human and it shows that but unfortunately not a lot of people see that. Like you see Superman trying to love a normal life with Lois and Batman trying to figure out how to parent a kid he never knew existed or Wonder Woman trying to make political moves for Themacera or the flash trying to have a normal life untill his mother is murderd now his life is turned upside down

[@MrInconvenient]

@@yashmalik1889 He's relatable as a person. He's a man that wants to belong and strives to do good in a world full of bad people. That's a struggle a lot of people can relate to

[@ChadBenjamin]

@@yashmalik1889 That's a misconception.

[@youfoundme7404]

When DC fans didn't come forward with the "Characters are relatable to us", I thought they were gonna say, "too much". But he said, - Kal had everything, but inspite he was good. And deep down I know, I can never be that good. Respect.

[@kaismith7958]

I love Marvel and DC equally. Marvel and DC are Equally great. In every way

[@gabrielmambo5436]

Of all the middle ground episodes I’ve watched, this one is the most pivotal and important in the history of mankind.

[@therepublicofnerds2389]

I mean as someone who’s a big fan of both, but leans towards DC Comics-wise, the MCU is way better but obviously when it comes to comics DC is superior

[@Youseekveek]

Why do you like their comics more?

[@xenoshunn8965]

@@Youseekveek Marvel comics are fun to read but they don't have the same depth or artistry as some DC comics. What is the Marvel equivalent of The Killing Joke or Arkham Asylum?

[@tobiaslawrence8928]

@@xenoshunn8965 xmen god loves man kills secret wars spider man no more old man logan venom king in black datedevil by frank miller. Just to name a few.

[@Youseekveek]

@@xenoshunn8965 I think the depth and artistry your talking about is in some more obscure marvel comics. These comics are not popular and definitely doesnt involve their main characters but sometimes do. It's just this torture genre only works well on human characters . the batman characters are so vulnerable so it's easy to create a long term story around them that is "dark" and popular because they are a main popular character everyone knows and they will always be depowered since they never had powers in the first place. Torture scenes and mental manipulation don't last as long in marvel like johhny storm being trapped in another dimension tortured and killed then resurrected only to be tortured again. Or that alien homeworld where you could be kept alive in a jar and mutant experimentation. Is it mainly the batmans stories that people like because theirs nothing like that that I know of in marvel comics so that could be the outstanding thing

[@Youseekveek]

@@xenoshunn8965 hard to find an equivalent to those two, what about a story that involves superpowered characters that you think is really good?

[@fab4809]

I just feel like Marvel portrays heroes as humans which make fans feel more connected to them

[@AnEclecticMind]

If you mean movies, yeah maybe. If you’re talking comic books then it’s mad obvious you haven’t opened a single DC comic book a day in your life

[@katiec_htx5574]

Yes

[@OK-69420]

@@AnEclecticMind I love marvel more than dc, But no marvel film can give me the joy I got when reading comics about Godspeed. Imo not only he the best flash villain, But the best DC villain in general. I'm a sucker for speedsters

[@emeliasversion]

i’ve only ever watched the movies bc i haven’t been able to find any of the comics but i totally agree

[@Cheetowitcheese]

@@emeliasversion Barnes and Noble is a thing you know.

[@gamingempirewatch]

They must be only thinking of the movies when they talk about winning a fight because if you read the comics there's tons of heroes/Villains that could destroy some DC characters

[@myuniversecomics]

I am a DC fan and I can confirm that there are a lot of marvel characters that would be equal in a fight against DC characters just depends who is fighting who in what place and if they have others fighting with them.

[@gamingempirewatch]

@@myuniversecomics exactly which goes both ways, DC has very powerful characters and so does marvel I don't have an issue with either tho

[@yourheroes5874]

“Marvel is light and fluffy” Me coming back after seeing multiverse of madness and seeing Wanda blowing Black Bolt’s head up

[@yaxii7199]

fr. mostly because the director of multiverse of madness was a horror movie director too

[@damnisthatapro6702]

I’ll hear them out but if you’ve seen the movies it literally isn’t worth debating

[@lukesanders8912]

It’s not just about the movies champ

[@coastercreations6126]

@@lukesanders8912 u read the title

[@ZX235w3]

I actually prefer DCCU movies. The marvel ones are too generic and predictable. Yes, even Infnity War was predictable. Like, what do you expect... a happy ending when there's a part 2 coming up?

[@jaredruiz9344]

@@coastercreations6126 the tittle is just a hook title for the video, not what the video is about

[@tobiaslawrence8928]

@@ZX235w3 oh you mean like every other superhero/comic book movie.

[@gebbo221]

This is my opinion. Live action movies: Marvel wins. Animated movies: DC wins. For comics: I think it's tied. It could go either way. Conclusion: They are both amazing.

[@Spiderstan2000]

That's subjective.

[@kngdreezy337]

@@Spiderstan2000 yes…. he literally said in my opinion

[@crysler2046]

For comics I’d say dc

[@paulohernandez649]

comics dc wins, tdkr, kingdom come, flashpoint, sinestro war corps, the long halloween, batman year one, watchmen, the swampthing of allan moore, batman arkham asylum , mr miracle( this comic is pure art ), the sandman,the preacher, v from vendetta,etc.

[@joshuagregoire9504]

Comics give the edge to DC

[@maurademi3006]

I love how they are more fan of one of the two but can still appreciate the other. Like every Marvel or DC fan has checked out the other sides stuff and it shows lol

[@crowsight]

i enjoy the Middle Grounds where people are able to engage each other in more of a conversation style, these are the most open and inviting to me. My DC flag is flying high

[@gameboyAdvSpDSi]

"you wanna talk about a no-brainer question" the guy in the back: 👁👄👁

[@777muzzful]

Superman is and has always been my hero. He stands for what I believe is the best within us: limitless strength tempered by compassion, that can bear adversity and emerge stronger on the other side. He stands for what I feel we would like to be able to stand for when standing is hardest.

[@93King]

Same, that's why it kind of stung when they used Superman as an example for why DC is not as relatable as Marvel. Superman is probably the most relatable character. You can't use powers as a disqualifying factor because 90% of comic characters would be disqualified.

[@rogue9230]

@@93King probably because captain America who is almost in terms of character like superman was so well done and actually showed some struggle and doubt in winter soldier and civil war

[@drfifteenmd7561]

@@93King Batman is far less relatable in a grander scale, but he like Clark has limitations as well. Clark however evidently is too compassionate at times which results in a lot of the situations he gets into.

[@93King]

@@rogue9230 Clark has been depicted very well in other mediums outside of the DCEU movies. There are tv shows and animations that have shown the struggles and adversities he goes through in the comics.

[@Endless20162]

The S stands for Hope

[@Fabriciom.o]

“My side would win in a fight” I think they all should be there cause it really depends on who fights and we have like super strong characters on both sides of the spectrum. I truly believe it could be a tie or a super close call you feel?

[@varsinicp]

That one person on Marvel side who wanted depression personified? You got WandaVision.