judge holden vs johan liebert ||

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[@youtubeuser3272]

"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge, exists without my consent"

[@manintheline5331]

They both share an ultranihilist perspective

[@hhnoyeet342]

Overkill 💀 + W edit 🥶

[@mortalkonquest2948]

Blood Meridian arc?

[@digikami.psd.5491]

Song ?

[@Lingnusxl]

Cool edita bro

[@srdamin9129]

Monster(holden) vs a mid fodder (Johan)

[@The__Deadman]

Who cares about a physical fight though when it comes to Johan? He'd never get the chance to kill him, Johan outsmarts and gets him killed quite easily.

[@vikinghoodbluelighthouse2911]

@@The__Deadmanno he doesn’t.

[@Giorgio-sp8fo]

@@The__Deadman I dont think you understand the fact that Holden is insanely smart, he had knowledge past the bounds of anyone during his time, he had the strategies and skills to back it up too, he held a cannon as if it was a rifle, johan gets negged

[@The__Deadman]

@@Giorgio-sp8fo Idk why people are so biased towards a fictional character that's a child rapist to fanboy over him... Watch Monster and read Johan's doc. Holden gets destroyed in intelligence.

[@Giorgio-sp8fo]

@@The__Deadman Read the fucking book, and The judge holden was a real person, read the autobiography of Samuel Chamberlain.

[@Spectre2798]

Peak

[@Havonity3]

Lucky Luke blitzes

[@Merpati_.]

#In my opinion# -Outsmarting johan very high diff (with influence) . -Outsmarting with influence = {debatle} -1 vs 1 fight holden very low diff (novel johan) -Evilnes holden low-mid diff (could be lower) -Better character [writting] holden mid-high diff (could be lower) -Better villain holden mid diff -Better antagonist johan extreme diff

[@user-cj6jv4ne2r]

Fax

[@upcomingperson4098]

In intelligence I think it's Johan but W

[@caballerodelaton22]

Not

[@memesarehere-zg9wb]

@@caballerodelaton22 is*. keep in mind, johan is a modern day manipulator, judge holden was a manipulator in the 1800s.

[@CalciumEcho1000]

@@memesarehere-zg9wb Judge Holden was stated to have the ability to learn anything he put his mind to without even doing the task in person, simulating it in his head like a machine. The Judge takes intelligence without much comparison to go by.

[@wizzardoisahhhhh]

judge kills in outsmarting 😭

[@Merpati_.]

Debatle tbh

[@BloopSuperJuice]

Not enough feats for the Judge to be smarter

[@CalciumEcho1000]

Is, actually most accounts you can tell he is smarter just by his characteristics, he is extremely curious and doesn't really only seek to manipulate people while Johan only seeks one thing. (He is also emotionally smarter, yes while being calm and reserved is Johan's thing, that would not give him a more intimidating status unlike Holden and his very sadistic happy nature.) Seriously, research actually shows that sadistic happy people who always manage to be optimistic either seem like idiots to others or unstoppable forces of nature. (And Holden is no Idiot I'll just say that.)

[@CardinalsFanBoy]

Need song 🎧?

[@rickyantonio1523]

Singularity

[@BloopSuperJuice]

Yall been overscaling the judge lately i blame the edits 99% of yall didn't even read the book it seems

[@The_Remark]

Also song name?

[@Aamaz2000]

singularity

[@The_Remark]

Roland Deschain victims

[@srdamin9129]

Roland is judge favorite bitch

[@The_Remark]

@cursed770 Disagree

[@johnmarkguanco1550]

Can he beat yujiro hanma in a fight?

[@user-kh5nl1om1i]

Depends on his nature, by the plot he is either a super-human or demon, if the second then defenetely yes, swipes

[@Sparda-hs9me]

Some people say Judge is basically Satan in disguise, if that's true then Yujiro is getting folded. If he's not then yeah Yujiro Hanma destroys

[@CalciumEcho1000]

Arguably The Judge could even beat Yujiro in a fight without being a demon as he also carries 2 ton objects like Howitzers with relative ease and is known to use revolvers and other guns in combat.

[@johnmarkguanco1550]

@@CalciumEcho1000 what if yujiro use his demon back

[@mrh4nma]

No.

[@baiterenocasiones8604]

Iq and better character goes to Johan

[@Sparda-hs9me]

IQ is debatable But the Judge takes better character by a huge margin

[@memesarehere-zg9wb]

yeah, no. blood meridian is the most impressive novel i've ever read. i seriously recommend reading it before talking about johan being a better character.

[@TheGreatGroribas]

Cope

[@Miraak59]

@@Sparda-hs9medefinitely not a huge margin but yeah

[@Sparda-hs9me]

@@Miraak59 ok

[@mrh4nma]

This guy is overrated asf

[@TheGreatGroribas]

Yes, Johan