Judge Overrules Jury in Consent Case | Law & Order

Following a school shooting, investigations begins into the primary shooter. This reveals the shooters motive, leading onto a case regarding consent and disability.
Season 8, Episode 22 'Damaged': Detectives Briscoe and Curtis (Jerry Orbach, Benjamin Bratt) take on a double shooting case; McCoy and Ross (Sam Waterston, Carey Lowell) prosecute the alleged gang rape of a girl with disabilities.
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[@NightWolf0228]

Dude even the defense were surprised that the judge was allowing this.

[@benwagner5089]

If prosecution isn't allowed to lead the witness, shouldn't it also be against the rules for the judge to lead the defense or prosecution? It's abuse of power regardless, and the judge deserves more than just a reprimand.

[@williethomas9953]

It should surprise no one that this judge turned out to be running a ring forcing young women who had drug problems into prostitution under the guise of "protection".

[@jimhills1920]

Probably did the same thing when he was young. 🤨

[@obliviouz]

@@NightWolf0228 They shouldn't have been - it's a standard motion to make, even hopelessly, at the end of most criminal trials after a conviction because there's no downside.

[@tristanphillips8650]

My psychology professor had a case where a student was assaulted by a group of boy, she managed to take them to trial… but it was closed because she went into the house “willingly”. She talked to the girl and the girl looked at her in tears and asked “if i was so willing… why did they have to hold me down?” My class was silent for a solid minute before we all got mad hearing about it… But my professor told us she never forgot that girl and she never knew what happened to her after all this time… but since then shes advocated for victims and pressed hard for protection of my college campus and had a place where they could report assault and get help… My professor was a strong woman, and any time i hear people talk like the judge did… i get MAD and i tell them the story i was told…

[@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773]

Its not helped at all when justice is not equally enforced. For every 1 female SA, theres 10 false SA on men...and an SA on men as well. SA is not just isolated to one gender, its society that has deemed it to one gender. Not understanding it can happen to both sexes. Its horrifying, disgusting and our society needs serious introspection. SA is SA...and that should be the end of the argument.

[@nakitapalmer656]

​@@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773Its a shame that NOBODY wants to talk about that, tho. 😌

[@angelmarauder5647]

Doubt that's the whole truth. Sounds like a spin.

[@colinhobbs7265]

@@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 false sexual assault allegations happen at about the same rate as most other false reports of crime, that is about 5%. The idea that there are 10 times as many false reports against men as actual sexual assaults against women is a load of bullshit pushed by rapists to paint the women calling them rapists as crazy liars.

[@ZenKrio]

Real victims, regardless of gender, deserve justice, it is very much a shame that some evil people are ruining justice for those that need it.

[@boredlawyer3382]

In real life, the State would appeal this ruling. Setting aside a jury verdict is a tough standard; the judge can't just decide he disagrees, but rule that the evidence cannot support the verdict under any reading of the evidence. And if the jury found him guilty, there is no double jeopardy in appealing. In real life, his ruling would likely be reversed on appeal.

[@RLucas3000]

@312desolationyes but that would have been a mistrial. If the appeals court reverses this set aside of the verdict, does he go back to guilty?

[@boredlawyer3382]

@@RLucas3000 Yes, they can reinstate the jury's verdict.

[@shihoblade]

The def made a gpod argument on bringing attire. Tge prosecution cant set up a case painting an image of a sexually ignorant "victim" and then refuse to let in evidence that counters that point. They opened the door.

[@FolkloreLover]

Thanks for bringing this up. I had no idea the judge could overturn a jury’s decision. This episode was unsettling for many reasons but knowing that the judge could do that was shocking.

[@AzathothTheTrueGod]

@@shihobladeUnfortunately if a gal dresses how she wants many guys see that as a sign to do whatever. But if it EVER happened where a guy was raped by another guy and said “look at what he was wearing” there would be a riot.

[@fever_spike]

Remembering Lennie in tears at the end of this episode upon finding his daughter dead, and saying “She was my little baby girl, Rey…” just devastates me. If ever there were a time where I wanted to hug Lennie, man, that was it right there.

[@tobiaswalker7562]

Me too

[@DeadpoolNegative]

“What am I gonna do?”

[@jacoblesher453]

Man this judge always sucks, I was so happy when Nora puts him in his place in season 11 “Threaten me again and I’ll let the court of appeals know about this conversation and our previous one”

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

Nora Lewin was underrated. They should have kept her for at least another season.

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

Really, in what cap happend?

[@delphinelavendermorgan4627]

What episode was it?

[@markvanells7798]

​@@delphinelavendermorgan4627 the episode was Dissonance, regarding Judge Wright and DA Lewin.

[@JoybuzzerX]

@@aggressiveattitudeera887 I believe they wanted to, but she wanted to move on.

[@alexandriaNicolee1]

She didn’t even know why she was laughing.. yet she can give consent?

[@holliewalther7174]

@@AnastasiaIsabella…. Exactly in a sarcastic way ?😂 cause uhhh no that’s not how that works

[@Boom-yu1ce]

An inability to read the room is not the same thing as the inability to give consent. (Not saying this girl consented, just that your logic is flawed and infantilizing to many neurodivergent people who are capable of consent)

[@AnastasiaIsabella]

@@holliewalther7174 I was being sarcastic

[@Wolffen51]

thats the part I found so troubling...

[@bogger3k]

100% completely mentally competent people can do that too. Its not an indication of mental disability.

[@wong4728]

Give this girl an award for her performance

[@JoeHarkinsHimself]

agreed/ Does anyone know who she is and what work she's done since this?

[@filmandcomposition]

@@JoeHarkinsHimself Lauren Ambrose

[@JoeHarkinsHimself]

@@filmandcomposition Thank you. I used that info to look into her professional history. She has fulfilled the promise of this stunning Law and Order performance.

[@millerarant3629]

She was good in Can’t Hardly Wait

[@missbrat711]

@@JoeHarkinsHimself She was great in Six Feet Under

[@flamiaminu5536]

The fucking brass balls on that judge. I know I would have ended up being arrested if I was in that court room.

[@tdestroyer4780]

but she wanted it. Didnt you see the whole clip?

[@AnastasiaIsabella]

@@tdestroyer4780but she was suffering from a disability and she clearly didn’t understand!

[@malucoblz588]

@@AnastasiaIsabella isnt that the tough part? either she has the capacity choose or not, if ruled no than she is legally incapable to do anything, if rule yes than her attitude towards it indicates she approved/liked it.... either way something is lost.

[@Fyrdman]

@@AnastasiaIsabella What suffering?

[@MrStGeorgeIllawarra]

Early 90's was a different time.

[@Zabethou]

« She’s curious about her own sexuality » so are 11-12 years old starting puberty, doesn’t mean it’s legal to gang up on them and take advandage. Im so mad about that judge

[@trevorbirkbeck4011]

Im curious when do you think she will be allowed to experience sexuality? Her brain is unlikely to develop much more, perhaps she will develop a more adult understanding but that is only perhaps. She was 18 yearsold legally an adult, and consented. Why do you believe they get make it a crime later due to perception changing?

[@shawnmcdoge2215]

​@@trevorbirkbeck4011 it's definitely a sad situation for the mentally challenged people their bodies mature beyond their minds. They have all the urges of an adult but society treats them like children. Its definitely a grey area that needs more attention

[@generatorx]

Judge Wright overturned the jury just to basically antagonize McCoy whom he hated. And yes, he held no regard for the girl who was mentally challenged. He let his personal feelings for the prosecution dictate his actions......what a di**.

[@aethionr4478]

Nope. We decided these people cannot take care of themselves. Society not caring just allows them to be pimped out by the most disgusting of us. We're all goos here ​@@shawnmcdoge2215

[@aleksandarvil5718]

*That Judge Earned Himself A Boiler Room of Hell 🔥🔥🔥 !!!*

[@hoshimaruhajime7933]

So true

[@zachscarbrough2727]

Satan: Oh Good you’re finally here! Your razor wire and salted lemon juice jacuzzi is right over here. And don’t you worry, the heat is cranked up to max. 😈

[@tonyajones1463]

Yep.

[@marinam.2293]

​@@zachscarbrough2727I like the way you think!

[@AustinB96]

Yeah judge going to hell

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

This was a gut wrenching episode. And on top of all this, Lenny's daughter was murdered at the end. Ugh.

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

Yep, that was a heartbreaking end of cap

[@mariazapata1606]

Why was she murdered?

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

@@mariazapata1606 She was silenced by narcos

[@Luckyrider1958]

@@mariazapata1606 Drug dealers shut her up...

[@goldentriforce29]

It was very heartbreaking 💔

[@pelu101]

That judge always had it in for McCoy. I know the DA who replaced Adam called him out about it, but I still never understood what the beef was.

[@DesRaven]

Cause the biggest criminal on the show is Jack McCoy. He twists the law anytime he can. He tried a twist with this judge and the murder got free on appeal because McCoy actions were illegal.

[@thefighter5182]

Well in terms of political correctness the Judge is right to overrule the jury in consent case.

[@Kadasberry11]

@@thefighter5182political correctness does not apply here so your point is moot.

[@kwayneboy1524]

​@@thefighter5182no just....just no

[@Zoras88]

@@thefighter5182 political correctness has nothing to do with this. This is just complete abuse of power

[@NH-tb2sm]

This was so sad and sickening, I almost threw up. That judge is the devil and a pervert.

[@yucol5661]

That’s pushing blame outside of people and our morals and into the devil. It’s washing our hands. Gotta accept that we and many people we love take part in that judge’s opinion.

[@AzathothTheTrueGod]

@@yucol5661Yep. Something good happens “thank god” something bad happens “it’s the devil”

[@tylerthomas7641]

@@AzathothTheTrueGodright

[@AzathothTheTrueGod]

@@tylerthomas7641 Except that’s not every really true is it? It’s always people. Many times the people doing the bad things believe in god and say they’re doing so in his name.

[@bogger3k]

You don't get to decide if its bad, though. That's just your opinion.

[@YorkDLance]

Of all the cases, all the years, this one, for me, hurt the most. The portrayal of someone cognitively challenged was brutal and realistic. Just broke my heart. Knowing that it happened in real life, based on a real case, makes it even worse.

[@somathegamer4933]

The worst part is that a judge just got kicked off the bench for pretty much doing this

[@kdizzle901]

The DA just couldn’t prove it beyond a reasonable doubt

[@somathegamer4933]

@@kdizzle901 lol so false

[@Famijoly]

I remember this episode and how angry I got when the judge just ignored the jury's verdict. I looked at it from the standpoint of a juror. What if you've dutifully responded to the summons, got chosen for the jury panel, listened attentively to testimony for however many days the trial lasted, met for whatever length of time with your fellow jury members, and arrived at three unanimous decisions of Guilty for the defendants, and heard those verdicts announced in open court? Then, what if, before you leave the court house, the buzz of conversation reaches you that the judge encouraged the defense to make a motion to set aside the verdict and he immediately did so? How would that make me feel as a citizen who participated fully and impartially as a juror who had invested so much time and energy (and possible loss of money) into the process? I would have been infuriated. I would have gone to the media and declared, at least for my own part, that I hold the judge in contempt of court, of his own court, specifically contempt of jury.

[@veeyan6882]

Lmao f how u feel as a juror

[@Chris-xt8io]

@@veeyan6882 I mean it was pretty much a waste of time. Especially if it was just going to be a bench trial. Judges very rarely override a juries decision because it undermines the juries rights to make a decision. The only reason an override usually happens is jury nullification because judges toss cases before it hits a jury. The evidence has to be so strong to be overruled.

[@deniseball7764]

Although its a tv show - there are a lot of people who never want to sit on a jury - just the details in some cases will haunt jurors for long times afterwards

[@TheKrispyfort]

Predators such as these are usually more embarrassed by the identity of their victims instead of their anti-social behaviour. Also why a lot of workplace creeps will intentionally target the socially unpopular underlings for grooming and exploitation.

[@maxcardun]

LOOK are we ever going to upload the clip where D.A. Nora Lewin chews this guy out or what?!?

[@delphinelavendermorgan4627]

I hope so. Because I really want to see it again and can’t remember the episode for the life of me

[@Aggression-hc3yp]

We need to see it!❤

[@jeanlukavich8310]

​. I believe It is "Dissonance". Season 11. Episode 3

[@JnEricsonx]

@@jeanlukavich8310 Yeah love a clip myself.

[@sonrouge]

To those who are outraged by this judge's actions, rest assured that this is not how setting aside a jury's verdict works in real life. Setting aside a jury's verdict requires there to be an actual constitutional issue with it or the evidence doesn't support the verdict. The prosecution proved that the victim didn't have the mental capacity to fully appreciate what was done to her, so the judge's reasoning is a crock regardless of how he may feel about it; the laws regarding diminished capacity are quite clear. A judge can't just overrule a jury because he doesn't agree with their decision.

[@bogger3k]

He can if he believes they didn't prove she was incapable of understanding. The evidence she was seeking sexual attention and gratification can suggest this and contradicts the experts opinion and completely invalidates his expertise. Reasonable doubt existed here on many fronts and I blame the writing for that. They play this game where they want to make it vague and questionable for drama, but more often then not they make it so a reasonable jury should come back not guilty, but they dictate otherwise because they rather make a statement than maintain consistency.

[@dukekessler6292]

​​@@bogger3kprosecution can appeal the judges decision. The requirements for a Judge to set aside a Jury's verdict are quite high (as they should be) and in this case I don't believe he's met the requirements. Who knows how an appeals court would rule but I'm guessing the Jury's verdict would be reinstated . Not saying there isn't legitimate questions but setting aside a Jury's verdict is quite rare and courts shy away from doing it.

[@bogger3k]

@@dukekessler6292 I'm saying the bad writing is the only reason they jury even could reach a guilty verdict

[@falseprophet1024]

​@@bogger3k The jury is the finder of fact, and i cant imagine any jury hearing this case and not saying guilty..

[@bogger3k]

@@falseprophet1024 then you're dumb.

[@Soldmysoulforburger]

If I ever see someone say "what were they wearing" again

[@AnnaJo2000]

If it was said to me, I would have said: "I was wearing clothes". It's a stupid question and deserves a sarcastic answer.

[@curious1053]

Ok, but what were they wearing?

[@Soldmysoulforburger]

@@curious1053 I wish I could block people on KZbin 💀

[@bogger3k]

If a cop asks its important for the investigation. Helps with witnesses who may recognize the attire or if it was torn a piece could be found with the suspect.

[@MrBastilleDay]

😂😂😂😂

[@MikeMJPMUNCH]

Wonder if this was posted because of the recent case of an Illinois judge Robert Adrian, who overturned Drew Clinton's sexual assault conviction, getting dismissed from the bench.

[@DerpDevilDD]

Right? So similar.

[@RandomBurner]

Wouldn’t this be a SVU case? I wonder how Stabler and Benson would have handled it

[@fullautomatic555]

This episode came out in 1998, svu started in 99 I think

[@djblades]

This is season 8 of law and order, that would put it around 1998, the SVU show didn’t debut until 1999

[@Ansible1000]

Probably got over-excited and threatened to beat up suspects, making their testimony inadmissible. SVU is the worst of the L&O shows.

[@josecarrilloii4036]

This is the *original **_Law & Order_** T.V. series,* which aired from *1990 to 1998.* _Special Victims Unit_ didn't air until the *fall of 1999.*

[@K1NG0FW0LV35]

I understand Valerie's perspective... I also understand the prosecutor's I was diagnosed with autism in elementary school (specifically aspergers syndrome). I struggle to socialize coming off as annoying which led to my being bullied... difference between me and Valerie is I picked up on things more easily whereas she picks up on things more slowly... the common theme here is we were both treated like children... which isn't always a bad thing.... the thing is kids with autism we do often have the emotional range of a child... and it is very easy for our emotions to cloud our judgement.... for Natalie she believed she found love with boys who saw her as a object.... for me I snapped at my hospitalized mom who tried reasoning with me when I thought I found love with someone on the internet who was just trying to scam me for my money.... kids with autism can understand things but our emotions blind us.... we don't want to be treated like children but we do need that guidance the same way a child does otherwise we make mistakes we regret and can't take back. I have struggled with so many things for so long all because my emotions clouded my judgement in many parts of my life and damaged my path to adulthood... now im a bum working as a actor who feels trapped in his life and looks to escapism as a means of... well.. escape.

[@myrnalaboy2840]

Lord have mercy that judge always had a huge against McCoy. R.I.P. Jerry Orbach.

[@a.r.hollowayauthor7210]

"When a cop asks to see your licensed handgun, you don't get to say no." Actually, yes. Yes you do lol "Get a warrant" is a perfectly acceptable thing to say to a cop asking to see your gun.

[@angelalee6105]

soo.. what's the point of the jury if the judge can do whatever he pleases?

[@vincenzofranchelli2201]

i think they can only overrule a guilty verdict

[@DerpDevilDD]

They can't. In reality, this judge would have lost his judgeship over this bullshit, just like Robert Adrian in Illinois recently. Horrifyingly similar situation, actually.

[@boomds5602]

@@DerpDevilDD except he overturned himself not a jury.

[@DerpDevilDD]

@@boomds5602 It's the same concept, tho. Overturning a verdict with no legal justification.

[@richardthemagician8991]

This episode didn't Age well.

[@bobSCOTT99]

This is the episode that ends with Briscoe finding his daughter dead

[@fever_spike]

“She was my little baby girl, Rey…” 😞💔

[@purepessimist]

How did she die and why?

[@bobSCOTT99]

@@purepessimist she was shot twice in the head by her drug dealing ex-boyfriend who she testified against

[@ursaltydog]

When that judge ALLOWED her dressing to be entered into court record, I knew where he was going to stand...

[@maestroclassico5801]

Jerry Orbach rocked. He was playing an active cop well into his 60s and pulled it off.

[@k.aduse1]

He died irl at age 69

[@maestroclassico5801]

@@k.aduse1 yup. I fixed it. But he played him right up till the end. Most New York cops retire in their early 50s if they're lucky

[@ogfail1867]

If that were my daughter that judge wouldn't be presiding over any more cases.

[@spaRKLES88604]

To all these people saying the judge is right look at it like this: 1. why not dicuss this one around school? because they knew it was wrong 2. why tell her not to say anything? because they knew it was wrong 3. She has no concept of boundaries or consent because she would have done whatever they told her to do. What if she got pregnant? STIs? Just because she did indeed want to bang does not mean she understands what that means. Those boys knew that, they knew it would be an easy lay for a lack of a better term. Disgusting.

[@rhondabrock6483]

I am so angry! How is that even possible?

[@kaneslives]

Night Lords: Time of her life? Right then justice time!

[@tjaudainofficial]

I remember seeing this episode a couple of times in the past but the ending will always be remembered for the heartbreaking death of Briscoe's daughter.

[@Joe-hf1dk]

Law and Order is a great reflection of the American Justice System. Brock Turner comes to mind.

[@TheDurid1]

Kind of. They did a lot of artistic license of situations, and focused on the dramatic cases.

[@erikafigueroa5128]

Especially since this episode aired many years before his case.

[@thefutureisnow7300]

Uh yes. You can say no if the police ask to see your weapon if they don’t have a warrant

[@lizanna6390]

Probably not a good idea if you've nothing to hide

[@lens_hunter]

I don't know, it kind of makes sense to me. I like when shows can show that not everything is always cut and dry. Her speech at the end was very interesting.

[@Square1986]

Judge Wright: Mr. McCoy, it's over! There is no case here. There never was! McCoy: How would you know?! You made up your mind before you heard the first word of testimony! Judge Wright: You're on thin ice, counselor! The defense request is granted! The state's motion is DENIED! You want to appeal?! Be my guest! (gavel bangs)

[@GamerFozzy]

The fact she apologised to the boys for telling McCoy what they did broke my heart

[@Rawkstar1960]

I remember this episode when it originally aired. The actress that played the victim was spectacular.

[@TheAlps36]

Even the defense counsel was shocked when the judge asked about a motion

[@freedomwriter1995]

People like this judge are why no one, especially women, trust the justice system.

[@sergeantzack1106]

No it's just your fucked up mind a bad judges don't make the system bad

[@kjam9085]

what's the point of the jury system if judges can overrule it anytime?

[@kidranchan]

So you don’t have mob justice

[@sergeantzack1106]

They can't in real life it's very difficult to do so

[@sergeantzack1106]

​@@kidranchanjury duty isn't mod justice dumass

[@Awwscrewit]

This seemed so far fetched, then Brock Turner happened.

[@JnEricsonx]

This is why Im so cynical. Because my cynicism gets justified on a daily basis.

[@bogger3k]

Why? Actually look into all the details of the case and Brock looks a lot less guilty.

[@sergeantzack1106]

Then the judge that did that was fired

[@StewNWT]

@@bogger3k? A lot less guilty? No He raped an unconscious woman

[@mugaguest1]

Her response in the end showed that she was not mature enough to know what happened.

[@jamespoledna2693]

I can't but mention at the beginning with the two teachers arguing about 'social promotion'. That BS has crippled the school system! It is a student's responsibility to LEARN! If they need special help and their education takes longer so be it but the free pass giveaways have to stop!

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

Well this is an ignorant statement

[@suzannecoladonato6313]

That’s your takeaway from this?

[@jamespoledna2693]

@@suzannecoladonato6313 no but as I said I can't help but mention.

[@doctorevil3326]

What's the point of a trial by jury if the judge will just overturn the decision?

[@suchiuomizu]

As has been pointed out in numerous other comments asking the same thing, judges technically have this power in reality, but the standards to use it is very high.

[@royalewithcheese7]

Today I learned that a judge can just overrule a jury’s verdict

[@sergeantzack1106]

In real life no there are certain conditions you have to meet to do that it's very tough

[@quadcannon]

Times like this is when I start understanding the allure of vigilante justice.

[@brimitch97]

This is the same judge that threw out the jury’s guilty verdict in the episode “Gunshow”. McCoy had prosecuted that case as well. His closing argument and the judge’s summation regarding his directed verdict was one of the most memorable events of the series.

[@MrPolicekarim]

I rember, that the judge sais, 'it's not about being right, it's about doing right.' The murderer had used a conversion kit, to turn a gun into fully automatic. McCoy wanted to go after the kits manufacturer. But the judge over turned his verdict. He said that the manufacturer would appeal the verdict, and be successful.

[@shepardbook]

Judge Aaron Persky, 17 years before Brock Turner.

[@mayaalieva938]

Now I know why some judges are called pigs and reminds me why I hated school... 😑😡😤

[@meghan3713]

Going to go and watch law and order again!!!

[@juliag.5114]

didn’t he do the same thing in that case where jack sued the gun manufacturer?

[@diamondmichelle9804]

I’m sorry idc if it’s a show. The dad should’ve shown her and helped her heal with the fact she’s been assaulted, allowing her to think she wanted what happened and that those boys feel for her at all is just opening the door for them to assault her again as well as others

[@Ministry_Of_Silly_Walks]

What a performance from Lauren Ambrose, of Six Feet Under

[@omnicious]

Isn't this the same judge that threw out the guilty verdict against a gun manufacturer for making their gun easily changed?

[@AndyBluebear-fi9om]

RIP Ron McLarty, the actor who played the judge. He passed away in 2020 after 6 years of living with dementia.

[@ShinRyojin]

Jigsaw would have a field day with Judge Wright.

[@JnEricsonx]

Id get the popcorn.

[@vladdracula5851]

The judge would be removed from the bench for that one statement alone that she had the time of her life and for the simple fact that he even asked the defense attorney whether or not he had any motion to bring forward just that simple question alone shows that he had no impartiality

[@Mariewolf_94]

man, you can tell this episode was old because they dropped the r-word and did not use terms like "mental disorder," "mentally immature," etc. this episodes feels sickening. she was mentally immature and could not fully grasp the situation. just because shes showing curiosity in sexuality and boys doesnt automatically mean she is a consenting party. theres kids who may be mentally advanced for their age and show curiosity at a younger age than this girl was, does that mean, if those girls was r*ped, they were not actually r*ped because they showed curiosity and interest at the prospect of being w/ a boy and s*x? a minor is a minor no matter what, and if someone has a mental disorder that hinders their mentality, then they should be considered a "minor" and be treated like a minor until they begin showing signs of maturity

[@casandraoconnor7888]

there would be no crime if she has allowed consent and she over the age of 18 but that judge is stupid That Judge Earned Himself A Boiler Room of Hell 🔥🔥🔥 !!!

[@ALUCARD-us3il]

not stupid, evil

[@in_vino_veritas7938]

Given her cognitive disability it would be admissible in court. Her mental age would still be 10 no matter how many years on earth she is

[@bogger3k]

According to you. Its is not objectively true

[@wasteland5000]

2:40 yes they do get to say no. Without a warrant, they get to say no all they want. You can see the permit. but if all you have as "evidence" is the caliber, then you have to check all 9mm in NYC.

[@irawilliams343]

This judge is one sick, sick man like Oliver Taft

[@jerykomontanez159]

So, The Law Biding Citizen movie should happen to the judge and those boys. That little girl dad just accepted everything

[@krystalk8105]

Poor girl

[@kilroywuzhere6864]

There are a lot of folks saying a judge can’t just set aside a verdict. This video shows a petulant man child doing this in the most disrespectful way possible, but it can be done. And while it is an extreme use of judicial power, she or he absolutely can set aside a guilty verdict in trial cases. They do this at the risk of losing their judgeship however, because these types of verdicts are heavily scrutinized. To issue a directed verdict, there must be evidence providing proof beyond a reasonable doubt. The procedures for doing this vary by jurisdiction. But the standards for a directed verdict require that (in the light most favorable to the prosecution)there is insufficient evidence provided to the jury to prove guilt, that no rational juror would find the defendant guilty, or that there were significant procedural errors during trial substantial enough to that affected the outcome. In most jurisdictions, the defense must file a motion.

[@oscarlover100]

He was right to throw out the verdict in the gun case that happens like two seasons after this but completely wrong here.

[@sergeantzack1106]

For the most part they can't

[@kevlonk]

Jesus, I keep forgetting JK Simmons was in Law and Order. So many great actors had their breaks on this series.

[@DraculHemming]

4:51 "Lack of knowledge is an affirmative defense." Since when? Last I checked, ignorance was no excuse.

[@Slowpoke3x]

That only applies in reference to the law. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Ignorance of other people doesn't fall under that.

[@DerpDevilDD]

And example would be someone pleading not-guilty with self-defense for killing someone, because they didn't know the gun being pointed at them was an Airsoft.

[@KaunPrime]

@@DerpDevilDD Situations like that have actually occurred, and judges have been lenient to the person who killed the other, but the problem is, airsoft type items have legal regulations on their manufacturing. Because of those laws, it causes some areas to be able to adhere to 'ignore of the law is no excuse.' and use it as justification to still hold the self defender accountable.

[@DerpDevilDD]

@@KaunPrime you're gonna have to explain how airsoft's manufacturing policies prevent people from mistaking them for a real gun. And if you're about to say, "parts of them are orange" or something similar, you're also gonna have to explain why it's impossible for the owner to alter that. If you can't, you don't have a valid point.

[@mohwe1007]

the defence were even like : dafuq?

[@Mysticinvestigations]

Why even have a jury if the Judge can overrule them?

[@sergeantzack1106]

For the most part judges can't very difficult to do so

[@newnuance]

4:18 Law and Order ages like fine wine

[@thestanleys4157]

The time of her life. Wow.

[@sweet_punchskyng1233]

The poor dad and sister they know their loved one was hurt but she doesn’t believe so 💔

[@obliviouz]

It's a bit infantilising to try to dictate to a person what they feel over what they're telling you themselves.

[@sweet_punchskyng1233]

@@obliviouz oh so seeing someone get abused on camera then in court the assaulter(s) says that they actually liked her and now she actually thinking that they do like her… I’ll like you to elaborate on how that is infantilizing. 😮‍💨

[@obliviouz]

@@sweet_punchskyng1233 It absolutely is infantilising, because 'seeing someone get abused' is imposing your subjective interpretation of what happened over the opinion of the person themselves. You say it like it's objective facts when it's not - it's much more accurately - you see something that you think is abuse.

[@sweet_punchskyng1233]

@@obliviouz oh i probably watched a different video to you then 😂🤷🏽‍♀️because you talking bs it makes sense yes but not for what happened in the video I’m sticking to wat I said Have a good day miss or mister

[@sweet_punchskyng1233]

@@obliviouz oh i probably watched a different video to you then 😂🤷🏽‍♀️because you talking bs it makes sense yes but not for what happened in the video I’m sticking to wat I said Have a good day miss or mister

[@dmr4450]

The actress who played Valerie is such a good actress.👍

[@bunnihart420]

Wow. That was a terrible case.

[@thebossjasonwilliams]

as an SA survivor myself, this judge makes me mad even though it's a fictional show. When I told someone what happened. They said oh you're a guy you must have had the time of your life. Consider yourself lucky and take the win and go on with your life. I couldn't go out of my house for months if someone walked up behind me I would freak out and shut down. I was there to get help and that woman forced herself on me and shoved a sock down my throat. Nothing was ever done to her and she got away with it. I wake up sometimes screaming in the night. If I were ever told that by a judge I had the time of my life. A judge someone who's supposed to say hey what you did is wrong you're going to go to jail. I don't know what I'd do. Tell all the victims of sa who's our subject to ridicule and dismissal. I know what that's like. But you have to take a stand and speak up and advocate. Expose the person's best you can tell everyone who will listen. And just take it one day at a time.

[@aminatoucunningham1237]

That judge in that show is extremely similar to the resent one in real life.

[@hobbesthegoblin]

5:00 Do the other kids have any photos of SPIDERMAN? That rotten web-slinger's a real menace, y'know

[@Jim070]

The flowery music when the girl talks is hilarious.

[@user-bx6yn5qy7o]

Is that Cruzito from Blood in Blood Out?

[@Dan-nt2yb]

The ‘tough’ male teen act is both hilarious and ridiculous. As if young boys being interrogated by homicide detectives would act like that. They’d be crapping their pants.👎🏾

[@nado9159]

Wow these boys sure are too cool for school ,”and then bam bam bam”

[@therabidmoose1618]

Wait... so in the American justice system, a jury of 12 can hand down a guilty verdict and the judge can just go "Nuh-uh!"?

[@kareempringle6561]

The time of her life is crazyyyyy

[@Nerdy_The_Punk]

At what point are you not allowed to be a human? This is such a tough situations because you dont want anyone to get taken advantage of however you dont want the person to feel and be alone forever. That being said this circumstance was about taking advantage of someone not her having a normal first time experience. That is the big difference and why they should and would be guilty.

[@adinicic4259]

McCoy could've easily went to Appeals and showed bias and ethics rules break from the judge.

[@DigiDestined13]

Shame this wasn't an SVU episode during the Huang seasons. Plus, his time on the show crossovered with Alex Cabot and Casey Novak. Both of those ADAs were ruthless when injustice occurred.

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

This case was getting worst in any second

[@xnightxamex]

lmao that would never happen in real life. judges decide matters of law, juries decide matters of fact. the judge can't set aside the jury's verdict based on his own beliefs about the facts of the case.

[@RasputinReborn-vz7jw]

A judge can set aside a Jury's verdict of guilty but it's an extremely high burden. as far as i know the only way you can overturn a guilty verdict is if the Judge finds the Jury was unreasonable in their Judgement based on the evidence presented.

[@pedropelaez]

This opinion of yours must be based on the JD you received from Facebook law school because yes judges can set side the verdict of the jury but it is a very high standard and rarely happens.

[@jago5300]

If the judge can overrule the jury.. then it wasn't affair trial over your peers.

[@marknewkirk4322]

The judge can override a finding of "guilty" if the state clearly did not provide evidence supporting its case. It rarely ever happens, but it is possible. Usually, however, such cases never get to the jury. The judge dismisses the case after the prosecution rests its case and before the defense even begins to present its arguments. It can happen if, for example, a key prosecution witness is shown to have committed perjury, refuses to testify, or simply fails to appear, and the rest of the evidence is insufficient. Or it can be a case where the prosecution botches the case and "proves" something that does not fit the charge being prosecuted. That results in a "judgement as a matter of law". However, a "not guilty" jury verdict can never be overturned; it is final.

[@sanjosesharkrock]

Hey it's an OZ cast member reunion.

[@jeanlukavich8310]

😂

[@maestroclassico5801]

Wow the original Law and Order was doing stories like this before SVU!

[@_adrian_sean]

And if she got pregnant that judge probably would've forced her to have the baby 😡😡😡😡

[@keeganhurley119]

That judge would have gotten disbarment and faced a judicial inquiry for official misconduct

[@wanderpump]

When there is no justice...

[@JnEricsonx]

There is the 2A?

[@homeworld1765]

Can a judge actually overturn the verdict of a jury?

[@youyo2205]

Technically yes but only in rare situations and it has to be you know the right decision

[@heyskra]

No, I never felt like this before, Yes I swear, it's the truth, And I owe it all to you

[@troylarock]

This didn't age well with the hard "R" LOL

[@robertmeyer5438]

Judge Wright was one of a few judges l didn't like in the series, even though that was his character.