Judo Study: Won-Hee Lee's no grip Korean Tai Otoshi

Won-Hee Lee is Korean judo legend. Former World and Olympic champion. He was renown for his technical skills and one of his favourite techniques was Tai Otoshi, today, many consider his Tai Otoshi to be the best of all time when it comes to international competitions. In this video I try to analyse one unique variation of Tai Otoshi that only Lee was able to fully master. Keep in mind that video + text format has it's limitations, so this video will only cover basics and some finer details might have been missed.
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[@waynelainchbury4037]

I would suggest after watching the video, Lee is using is off-hand (non-controlled) for 2 things: 1) he brings it toward the opponents grip, making them further tighten their grip, and 2) as he rotates he positions it to use as leverage, basically drawing and dragging the opponents arm into the Tai- Otoshi. This used by many others in various throws ( Seio nagi and Osoto Gari are examples).

[@JoseLopez-fl2hl]

you do a brillitant job here ma friend , keep doing this .

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thank you sir!

[@equal2326]

The "wrong video" part had me laughing. Amazing breakdown, thank you.

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thanks!

[@chameleonpt]

Amazing look at the technique. Thanks for taking the time to make that.

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thanks for taking the time to watch it.

[@ronin2167]

I learned it when my dojo was affilitated with he Fugakukai Branch of Tomiki Aikido headed by Karl Geis sensei R.I.P.. It's called Sumi Taioshi. In Aikido it's done without the leg, but I also study Judo and it can be done without the leg in Judo as well. It's all about kuzushi.

[@ibaryabaq9197]

Excellent as always....bring it out!

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thnx!

[@anon4096]

imma need to see more of that aikido video tho

[@juanfrancisconeculmanm4120]

It's amazing!!! It is the best channel ever

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thanks!

[@PLAY-xg3rl]

Very informative 👍👍

[@jonlasarte9690]

This channel is pure gold

[@franceb3156]

A m a z i n g. Lee was amazing, so is your understanding of his moves. 💯 Best analyzation video I seen.

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thank you!

[@XgamersXdimensions]

Amazing video. Would love to see an analysis of Ouchi Gari (perhaps from Lucie Decosse) or of Takato’s Kouchi Gari

[@Paul13245]

Amazing work. I love it when someone analyses an unusual technique. Good job

[@henriquefrancisco300]

As i can gather, Lee pulls his arm close to his chest so uke's arm gets extended towards him and elbow is also lower than his own chest meaning that the Luke's wrist/hand is slightly lower (between hip and ribs). This allows his to use his left arm/forearm to attack the crook of uses arm making it bend and distance between both bodies becomes much shorter. Also he gets to use his whole body as leverage opposed to using his shoulder, if the arm was to be extended Not sure if the written description explains it well

[@marshall8425]

Love these videos! Keep going!

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thanks!

[@PLAY-xg3rl]

01:50 oh.. yusuke kanamaru

[@boyang9764]

Thank you for the great work!

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thanks for watching!

[@jonmoris9354]

Ive did judo for 9 years i belive he pulls his arm in to feel how strong oppone ts grip is and also creates tension so when he explodes outwards it makes the other guy come off balance easier cause there holding so tight

[@davishirayanagui4508]

Great video

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thanks!

[@karleduard7725]

It also reminds me of Hapkido throws against joint locks

[@MrKB1007]

Love this

[@kaove8319]

very nice as always

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thanks!

[@youssefezzat9931]

Hey can you please do a breakdown to hashimoto one handed sode

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Maybe in more distant future.

[@marshall8425]

Every normie who have ever made any breakdown made one hand hashimotos sode, so please dont do that🙂

[@youssefezzat9931]

Hahahaha do u think that the people on KZbin teaches it correctly no they are doing it wrong totally wrong

[@Now_or_Never_777]

Wow. Amazing breakdown

[@blackgouk7745]

This is an outstanding technique in my opinion.

[@ianyoung8392]

Joshiro Maruyama's tai otoshi is just like the one you've shown on display

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

I must have missed it, could you post a link so I could watch it?

[@ianyoung8392]

@@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486 Just to be clear when I commented I'd watched about 4 minutes of this video so it's not a "no grip tai otoshi" as I think I jumped the gun? Apologies again. It's hard to see from the angle, however his whip, timing, reaping with the blocking leg, use of bodyweight etc is still exceptional. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHy8c3RrnrJpfq8

[@toehold334]

왕기춘도 빗당겨 치기 잘하는데

[@RobbyDesmond]

I wonder if part of the pull inward is to keep uke thinking you're trying to grip break? I think you are right about it being a way to wrap the rotation tighter and get more kuzushi forward, but I think it could be psychological too.

[@ahspark87]

How he grabs the wrist - this is no longer allowed correct?

[@exmonarcagoodbye3296]

Outstanding

[@nicolagaruti3953]

L'essenza dello Judo

[@guest0046]

Amazing

[@MrBluemanworld]

I miss my Judo 😭😭😭

[@kennethrogers1129]

Looks like he has a grip, but I see your point he used uke’s grip, reminds me of one of my judo Sensei telling me, don’t fight for grip throw uke with what he gives you, he was one of first Caucasian to make black belt at the KODOKAN, was an MP fitting Vietnamese war and had opportunity to learn there

[@mariotobias5918]

The reason why tori needs to pull arm close to his chest is to minimize energy when he turns and makes the throw. if you dont do this imagine torii has an extended arm and tries to throw nage, too much energy is expended to make the throw making the throw less likely to happen. .

[@wsl3119]

I don’t even think I’m going to try this one 😅

[@danielcarrillo6504]

Never fight your opponent face to face surely you will lose.get behind always from behind put your arms underneath your opponent wrap route fingers around his head interlock your fingers and swing him t he floor.you can get him in a full Nelson by lifting up of his head and torso if grounded get in a 180%hold with your grasp still in place only reach both fingers into his eye sockets and pull out his eyes.only if you are out of breath.if you must throw punches from face to face aim for the throat beware of hitting his head the small fingers in your hand are easy to break.samurai police kung fu.

[@Trackboxer]

Look unrealistic like anime

[@코로나꺼저-t9r]

Just God!!!

[@DavideMassaJudo]

Tiago Camilo vs. Kiril Voprosov...but it took a multiple Olympic medalist and world champion to see that outside South Korea...

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

You are right, when you look carefully he does the no hand version, this on slipped from my mind. To add to that someone pulled this move in recent Tashkent GP 2019.

[@matrix268]

This is a study on how to deal with force in life in general not just in Judo. Thank you.

[@henriquefrancisco300]

Man I'm loving your videos. Superb work. Usage of tech to highlight the key factors on the techniques, the wording and font, and the jams are bliss! keep up the great great work

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thank you, sir! Glad to hear that!

[@TheArtofDoing]

Absolutely amazing video. I was looking for someone to break down this no grip version. I saw videos of the throw but couldn't quite see what was happening. This was so very well done, explained and with so many examples. I can't say enough about how good this video is. It must have taken SO long to make and edit!!! Bravo

[@isrracho3918]

Damm brother, this is pure gold thanks this gave me more prespective of My tecnique thanks la awsome.

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Glad you found it useful, thanks for watching!

[@freecons]

이원희 선수 시그니쳐 기술👍

[@vedranvancoillie5061]

Pls, do a video about uchi mata.

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

I'll most likely make one more video and after that I'll start doing Maruyama's Uchi Mata.

[@dan8085]

@@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486 Nice

[@pabloperezgalindo7628]

Another really cool video, what you do is amazing, I love your work. Thanks a lot for your time and all the efforts.

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thank you for watching!

[@midlandsdruss6006]

Great video as always but why do you have to upload just after my trainning, now I have to wait one whole week to try this ç_ç

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thanks! Now you'll have whole week to do visualization training.

[@midlandsdruss6006]

@[L A Y L A]- Go To My ChanneI! L!VE NOW yeah I know I've been doing judo myself for 21years now, my question was a joke about his video posting schedule that was in desync from my training schedule^^

[@PLAY-xg3rl]

I want see your analysis video for hashimoto's one hand sode

[@NovaEmotion]

go ippon seoi nage both lower and full stance ! like pls !

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Good idea, I'll see what I can do.

[@dogedesign]

It's a fuckn good video bro

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thank you!

[@danielcarrillo6504]

With hate and racism on the increase and in schools let your students miss class and learn martial arts it's better than using a gun never start a fight or provoke anger.have fun it's enjoyable to win but if you get angry.no need in figjting.you already lost.pain is just another feeling do not be afraid of pain .

[@mabu1760]

Pulling in your arm would create more momentum (less force required), as you bring the 'gripping point' closer to your point of gravity and center of rotation. Also, the opponent would likely be more off balance. In the mean time, like stated in another comment, it would give you time too feel up the opponents grip and reaction. But perhaps most important, it would conceil your own action/intention more, so you can execute the Tai Otoshi as late as posiible, until the moment where there is no opposition possible. edit: forgot to mention, that the movement alone would also be assessed by the opponent as being something of a normal reaction, like you're protecting your weak or attacked spot by pulling in your arm.

[@timmyxuereb3083]

Great comeback x

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thnx!

[@ALBERTORAYGOSA]

I love the explanation!

[@paramedic28154]

Awesome breakdown!

[@decodingjudo-grapplerkingd5486]

Thank you!

[@철김-s3q]

그는나이 43살 파리올림픽에 도전한다. 노그립 빗당겨치기로 세계를 놀라게할것이다

[@biggizod]

too much talks, but no good video of technics

[@mohamedchibanibahiamar9555]

Great video, still watching it years later. Can you do one about the uchimata without the tsurite, in which tori uses Ike’s strong grip on his arm to draw him towards uchimata? Nagase vs Valois-Fortier in Montreal is a great example!

[@zachstrickland3339]

Awesome watched one video and instantly gauged he using their grip as a grip then with his other hand is guiding the rest of the throw. This should be included in all judo training. Maker of video explained it perfectly. Good job on the breakdown

[@shamilkhamitov6842]

One of the best channels for studying judo. Thank you very much for your work !

[@furiousfellow1583]

3:44 not only this versión, but that applies to tai otoshi in general

[@lucasgasque4312]

Rolf, the fake martial arts video was brilliant .🤣