Judo Techniques in ancient Samurai scrolls

[@elijahdeluna9187]

Some of those old pictures of samurai arm-locking each other would make some cool T-shirts.

[@Chadi]

Indeed

[@backwoodsboy8627]

Try it you may get rich

[@roloduarte3100]

True!

[@zacharytarnow7290]

Check out Halfsumo, they've got rashguards in a similar style

[@donaldduke2233]

Unlike the Gracies, Jigoro Kano never claimed to have "invented" the techniques contained in Judo. He was the "Chadi" of his day, doing extensive research and gleaning effective techniques from the sources which he studied.

[@Chadi]

Omg I'm flattered! Thank you but his knowledge far outweighs mine

[@Taekwon-Brando]

Very humble guy right here ^^ you’re awesome chadi !

[@seinundzeiten]

yes these techniques probably came from China or through Samurai' inventing them in the battlefield

[@markdaniels4178]

Judo is a real fighting art and very affective in mma, self defense and in bjj compitions standing up and on the ground hands down.

[@ignitionfrn2223]

1:00 - Introduction 2:45 - Ippon seio nage 3:35 - Kata guruma 4:30 - Ude garami 5:35 - Udehishigi juji gatame 6:30 - Okuri eri jime 7:50 - Wristlocks 8:45 - Conclusion

[@fakename3344]

Thank you for this. This book is an absolute gem. It's hard to find a lot of information on old ko ryu manuals if you don't speak Japanese. Your chanel is a wealth of knowledge and I don't think I've ever seen anyone else present the history and interesting aspects of Judo and traditional Jiu JItsu as concisely as you do. It's an extremely underappreciated area and I don't think many people are shedding this much light on it.

[@Chadi]

Thank you very much for your words

[@Peekingduck]

Yours is easily the best martial arts channel on KZbin! Hands down the most interesting, level-headed, respectful and informative. Thank you for all the wonderful stuff you share and for your hard work.

[@KiddReige]

I love the fact you used a Bujinkan book as source material haha

[@Enchantedescapesanctuary]

Thank you. Love the connection we have.

[@henrikg1388]

Finally I have convinced my six ear old son to go to a kids-Judo class. I had to disguise it as Ninja training, which is partially true. Love your channel, and since you won't budge and have a SubscribeStar account, I may have to bend the knee and register with Patreon, even though it goes against all my principles to feed censorship and big-tech. 😀

[@marchowe1629]

WTF Henrik - your kid is six. You don't need to "convince" him of anything - he just goes.

[@henrikg1388]

@@marchowe1629 😁 Well, the situation is a bit complicated at the moment. His mother just left him and me and settled on the other side of the World. I have to go a bit easy on him for a short while.

[@marchowe1629]

@@henrikg1388 Very sad to hear about that Henrik and I convey to you my well wishes as a stranger. I am a PCYC wrestling coach myself however, and while I am not an advocate of being domineering or hard as an authority figure, I know that as an adult who deals with children it is incumbent upon us to be good authority figures. This means it's up to you to best exercise your decision-making capabilities on the behalf of children, because that's not something they can do themselves.

[@Chadi]

Awesome Henrik! When I have son (hopefully) I'm naming him Henry, it's my grandfather's name also

[@henrikg1388]

@@Chadi Well, I would be very proud if you did.

[@seinundzeiten]

Great channel! Historical and very interesting!

[@Chadi]

Thank you

[@bryanreyes7382]

Thank you for this video

[@Chadi]

You're very welcome

[@driver3899]

What I have found over the years while looking for the most functional techniques is that the ones being used across multiple (and often unrelated) disciplines of fighting, such as the same throw that is found in everything from Muay Thai to Judo ect, these seem to be best ones and have the highest percentage of success

[@matarahmadal_atif9359]

Your channel is The literal meaning of quality versus quantity... 🌹🙏🏼😊.

[@Chadi]

Thank you Ahmad🙏🏻

[@abc80s74]

Chadi great history and content the way you explain it thank you

[@Chadi]

🙇🏻‍♂️

[@mariorauldelapena2052]

Muchas Gracias!!! Impresionante Kosei Inoue. Es simplemente Judo para estudiar. Gran video!!!

[@Chadi]

🙇🏻‍♂️

[@israelcanada8969]

Another great video Chadi!! ❤️

[@Chadi]

Thank you

[@Th3Barbarian01]

I love Judo 🇯🇵 thank you 🙏 Osu !

[@aasserelzoghby6781]

Judo is the best sport and martial art! Good work ethic, health, strength, self defense and mental health! Thank you for showing it to the world and showing us great in depth comparisons and old moves! 😊😁🙂

[@Chadi]

🙏🏻🙇🏻‍♂️

[@aasserelzoghby6781]

@@Chadi 😃

[@fux696]

To say xy is the best martial art ist like to say marathon running is the best running, because it's great for running long distances. But that's not sprintings intention. I hate that BS, just say you like judo best because it fits you. There is no best martial art, all have their downsides and benefits. You can only judge a martial art how good it is for you in a specific matter.

[@aasserelzoghby6781]

@@fux696 OK chill it is an opinion. I never said it is a fact It is like saying school uniform is good. You can have proof and evidence plus some quotes, but it is still an opinion It is a bias So chill

[@fux696]

@@aasserelzoghby6781 you can read at least one discussion per pupil about the school uniform thing...

[@roloduarte3100]

Awesome video.

[@internetastronaut4973]

underrated channel

[@Chadi]

Thank you

[@TheNateWalking]

6:50 there are some techniques in Aikido to defend against this attack: hand grabbing one wrist and choking with the other. The coolest to me involves raising the hilt of the sword toward the choking elbow, raising the opposite hand above the head and pivoting for the throw. The hilt across the elbow pins it down and causes a bit of a downward turn on that shoulder. Hard to describe verbally. Haha

[@johnedwards4211]

wow Aikido is tooo deadly. back up mang

[@TheNateWalking]

@@johnedwards4211 Wow, I’ve never heard such a reply on KZbin before! This is a traditional technique for samurai in armor in battle. It is a defense against someone trying to choke you while preventing you from drawing a katana or tanto. It absolutely works in this context, even against someone of greater strength and size.

[@Chadi]

Yes I've done them in the past, attacks against ushiro kubishime

[@elijahhatcher8840]

Indeed appears to still be effective today.

[@Chadi]

100%

[@Modern.Agoge.Training]

Thank you chadi!

[@Chadi]

No thank you

[@BFerreira82]

Woahhh. Surprised me there for a while. Had to confirm if was watching your channel 😂 Expected "Hi. This is Chadi." But no ... heard some strong British accent narrating as intro. 🤔 You got me sir ! 👏🏼🙌🏼

[@Chadi]

Haha gotta mix things up once in a while

[@rvfree1]

So wonderfully researched and presented! Thank you!! Please don't discredit human biomechanical ingenuity. If the early jujitsu masters or Kano didn't , someone else would have. That's just the way we humans work we will eventually find a way...then, a better way....then a better way.

[@Chadi]

Agreed! Thank you

[@rustyshackleford735]

Even though I personally don't subscribe to traditions that aren't well reasoned, or helpful, such as bowing to the mats(unless of course that is the culture of the dojo I'm in, but in American bjj and Muay Thai these kind of traditions aren't required in most schools, though some individuals will bow etc...) But t I do love learning about the roots and even the traditional conduct in japan.

[@ramqi6239]

muay thai still has some of this tradition in thailand

[@kempbrown6163]

Pay honor to those who honor, and custom to those who custom

[@SI-ln6tc]

Think of it like glove tapping in mma arenas.

[@TheNateWalking]

Bowing when entering or leaving the dojo, to the sensei, or your partner is just good Japanese etiquette.

[@johnedwards4211]

lots of traditions in Muay Tai and BJJ

[@beskeptic]

Great video Chadi! I'll share that with friends. My problem is that most of them don't speak english. Ps: A lot of people here think that ude garami on the straight arm is ude gatame. Despite being demonstrated on the Kodokan old series. Ps2: I was thinking today about okuri eri jime being the name of canto choke and the bow and arrow.

[@Chadi]

Thank you Kleydson! Yes Canto and bow and arrow are Kodokan variations of Okuri Eri jime

[@cjnino3406]

Remember you were talking about bartisu. My cousin is practicing that maitral art

[@Chadi]

Awesome

[@Kamabushi999]

Judo is a off shoot of jujutsu. Judo has randori because is the only way practice dynamically is to clean it up otherwise arms are broken. If you do instead of sode tsuri komigochi do an ude tsuri komigochi you extend the arm and possibly break it at the elbow as you throw. Judo became famous because the rules where set for it when they competed and Judo won. Just like when Ali fought the karate guy in the 70s just like when Maywheather fought Macgregor. The rules wehere set for boxing. You never saw Maywheather fight Mcgregor in the MMA ring did you? All those techniques existed before Judo in a different form mainly for combat. Not knocking judo, am a 2nd degree, but when I knew how to do uchikomi in dynamic way and throw in randori like in Judo then just doing a combat throw is easy.

[@OIFJESSE]

Great video

[@Chadi]

Thank you

[@tonywhite352]

Badass. Instinct meets high tech. I mean I learned that tackling and strangling an asshole work real well before I was ten years old in D. C. Public schools.

[@rh45sth62]

Great ! Thanks for this Chadi. Of the 3 katas I've performed in Judo, kime no kata is my favorite. My old sensei told me the moves were those used by Samurai. It was great to see some grappling in the movie The Last Samurai, and of course Tom Cruise does a beautiful yoko wakari (side separation) when he gets surrounded by multiple assailants.

[@Chadi]

I'll check it out

[@rh45sth62]

@@Chadi Must watch movie if you haven't seen it; it takes you back to 19th century Japan.

[@blakewangler230]

Hay Chadi im curious if Shinden Fudo Ryu is still active or is the school extinct? If you can give me info it would be most appreciated.

[@Chadi]

Unfortunately no, maybe in some corner in Japan but not in the West

[@blakewangler230]

@@Chadi i got ya thank's

[@bennagel2180]

Chop chop judo flip

[@Taekwon-Brando]

How do you find these pictures man it’s impressive

[@Chadi]

I'm a curious individual

[@Taekwon-Brando]

@@Chadi well keep up the good work man your videos are wonderful! As an aikido/BJJ/judo practitioner myself I find so much value in all of your wisdom sir.

[@georgekenshin]

Κoryu schools doesn't use the hips......but the weight of the body..its total different....The modern budo is total different from koryu schools.

[@Chadi]

Where does this information come from

[@dianecenteno5275]

That's not entirely correct. The Koru Jujutsu schools did use body weight over hips in the execution of certain throws. However, this was done as application against an opponent wearing armor where it was faster and easier to use to counter the armor weight. Otherwise, hips were most certainly used.💮

[@buddyweiser2224]

Is it Yukio Mishima who talks in the beginning?

[@Chadi]

Kosei Inoue

[@Stephen_Curtin]

Chadi you should probably do some research on the author of the book you referred to in this video. Maasaki Hasumi is a controversial figure in the martial arts world. Many question if his tradition is legit or not.

[@Chadi]

Thank you Stephen! I'm well aware of that, did not discuss the author that much because of this, found a lot of the techniques questionable myself, i figured I'd share the scrolls because they were interesting and the Koryu itself is verified

[@Stephen_Curtin]

@@Chadi which koyru, Shinden Fudo ryu? Is it verified. I haven't read anything on this subject in many years but I do remember that Hatsumi claimed to have scrolls which proved the legitimacy of his schools but he refused to show them to anyone.

[@Chadi]

@@Stephen_Curtin shinden traces back i believe to the 12th or 13th century, one of their students is actually Barton Wright.

[@Stephen_Curtin]

@@Chadi right I seen that on the Wikipedia page but where does that info come from? Anyway even if Shinden Fudo ryu is a legit school, Hatsumi is so controversial I'd be careful of believing anything he says about the School unless that information was cooberated by another impartial source.

[@Stephen_Curtin]

@@Chadi also isn't Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu supposedly the oldest surviving Koryu in Japan, and that dates to the 14th or 15th century I believe. So I'd be wary of claims which purport to be older than this.

[@somedude6423]

What is the move at 5:08

[@albertomendoza5142]

Same. Technics use. On. Budo Military japanese. Ninjitsu. .. Ninja's. Special Forces. Gainers off. Yokio 🗾

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

i find it a little funny how my sensei taught ninjutsu and judo becouse the whole pop culture thing with ninja and samurai being enemies

[@Chadi]

That's awesome

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

definitly not ben lente she also 5oght me teakwondo and krav maga but it was not very formal we did wear gi but the dojo was sometimes the back yard or local forest 1 seconde geleden

[@Quach7]

Are you sure the techniques didn't come from Ninja Scroll?

[@Chadi]

The book is in the description

[@quach8quach907]

@@Chadi It's a joke. Ninja Scroll is Japanese animated movie.

[@Chadi]

@@quach8quach907 had no idea

[@johnedwards4211]

What would a Judoka know of samurai? Kano destroyed most of their moves. Judo was made to destroy samurai code and welcome Japan to the Contemporary era. Judo was made to separate japan from samurai to scholars. Hence why a 22 year old 'know it all was able to make his own art (Try that today). Now we have people like Chadi claiming Kano was the greatest? It takes a life time to be proficient at something, Chadi thinks he master it all by 22 and still was able to be a national teacher, professor, and principle? Kano destroyed and took away more than he added. Judo is stale and has not progressed, only devolved in the last 10 years (i.e. Leg grabs). Why does Judo claim everything before and after it it was created? Only true art is Dim Mak or John-Do-Te! I can chop anything in half.

[@Chadi]

That comment actually had a lot of value, because it gave something to think about, that last sentence really lost all thr credibility the comment had.

[@johnedwards4211]

​@@Chadi All joking aside. I don't know if you've noticed but I love Judo. I love most marshal arts, and their history. I just hate the attitude of most people practicing TMA. I hate the "my art is better BS". I find sometimes you can perpetuate it too. I play off this, I choose to play off their own ego and make people thing I believe the stuff I say (I don't always). Using satire to have fun with your fans, and if they didn't read with their ego first they would realize.

[@johnedwards4211]

@@Chadi Love to see a video about my point. you know damn well its a valid argument. JohnDo Chop!

[@user-bn4ov9sp5s]

now where talking.. check out an author by the name antony cummins he is a historical writer of ninjitsu and samurai Scrolls.. he has some amazing books. Im a bjj Guy but i love reading scrolls from ancient samurai. I love the connection of bjj to judo to samurai.. idk im kinda a nurd. funny thing is i traind in hapkido as a boy for many many years in my adult age i got into judo / bjj but as a hubby i got into reading ancient samurai text and then i relized how connect every thing is to the samurai.. great video. this is awsome content...

[@eagle162]

That guy's work is honestly a waste of time I say this as a former fan of him,his knowledge of history especially samurai history is below kindergarten level.

[@georgekenshin]

He know nothing about koryu ......arts.

[@Chadi]

Many people mention him, i should check him out, thank you so much for your words.

[@eagle162]

@@Chadi please don't waste your time his work is terrible even a real historian like Friday has said never to buy his work.

[@Chadi]

@@eagle162 thanks for the heads up