Judo Tosses Muay Thai NINE TIMES - Is That Enough For A Win?

[@dariodesansebastian]

Judo black belt here! I want to add some videos and names to the techniques, so that you guys can see them in a judo scenario. Props to @conorfiggs234 for adding the names of the techniques in another comment, don't want to steal his with mine! 0:26 Kata guruma (shoulder wheel) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ-rg5uJrp2sn5Y&ab_channel=KODOKAN 1:29 Kouchi gari (small inner reap) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXvFZKeQq9dshMk&ab_channel=KODOKAN 2:50 Ura nage (back throw) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXvFZKeQq9dshMk&ab_channel=KODOKAN 4:50 Ippon seoi nage (one arm shoulder throw) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fILRgJ95rdRnpas&ab_channel=KODOKAN 5:23 Harai goshi (hip sweep) kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4XSaXuidqaehdE&ab_channel=KODOKAN 6:02 For this one IDK the name, it's not named in our judo techniques. According to @conorfiggs234 the name is sukui gari. It reminds me of Kuchiki taoshi (one hand drop) kzbin.info/www/bejne/kH-vZWqnZsZ9hLs&ab_channel=KODOKAN. This time it was not a good idea, walked straight into mae hadaka jime (guillotine choke) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmS8l5ifgrSUnM0&ab_channel=JukidoAcademy 6:55 it looks like he was attempting a de ashi harai (foot sweep) kzbin.info/www/bejne/anO4hqmnrc6Sgc0&ab_channel=KODOKAN or ko soto gari (small outer reap) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJa0ZmdniMh_eJY&ab_channel=KODOKAN, from that angle it looks like a failed attempt at tai otoshi (body drop) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqmZhGaHYrCnrJo&ab_channel=KODOKAN the muay thai juy jumped over his leg and tried to get his ankle. I might be wrong and it might be a de ashi barai as the commentator says it's a sweep! I would definitely need a better camera angle! 8:26 Same as 6:02 9:20 It looks like it's the same as 4:50 (ippon seoi nage) but it's a seoi otoshi, or drop seoi nage. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKaUhYCMg9OkaZY&ab_channel=KODOKAN 9:25 failed attempt at ude higishi juji gatame (armbar) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYjKhIKieNqAjtk&ab_channel=KODOKAN In a real fight with concrete floor, it would've finished at the very beginning, that kata guruma 0:26 was killer! I also wanted to address a couple of things said by the commentators. Judo has 4 ways of learning: uchi komi (repeating the technique static, ten times and then you throw, geiko (you throw, I throw, rinse and repeat. no resistance), randori (combat, but no winner philosophy) and competition (only thinking about winning, bad rules that limit throws and submissions). Most of the people are now focused on competition, so their groundwork tends to suck (which is why I think this guy's judo throws were amazing, but his groundwork not that much). I learned in a traditional dojo, my sensei was one of the few groundwork specialists in Spain, so our learning was 50% groundwork 50% throws. Also in Judo we don't have striking techniques until you're second degree black belt, which are only used for self defence scenarios, that's why I also think that Judo guy was gentle after throwing his opponent. After all, in judo competitions once you score a point with a perfect throw its over. I hope this was useful!

[@FightCommentary]

Thank you! And please send us clips any time whether of techniques you're thinking of or your own training etc. We all LOVE judo on this channel!

[@razvan7355]

Top G

[@andrewsooknanan3940]

Awesome work

[@taintedexcalibur]

Nice

[@andreashans89]

Judo is class!

[@conorfiggs234]

0:30 kata guruma 1:30 kouchi gari 2:56 ura nage 4:53 ippon Seoi nage 5:25 harai goshi 6:02 sukui gari 6:55 de ashi barai 8:26 sukui gari 9:20 ippon Seoi nage

[@FightCommentary]

Thank you so much for this! I will pin you for a bit!

[@Kyokushinkai59]

​@@FightCommentaryits not judo its sanda fighter

[@Bartron_Flat_Earth]

In English.. nerd

[@premo0]

Last one is a drop ippon seio nagi.

[@msinsuranceadjuster4396]

Even with gi, it is difficult to do seoi nage, but he can do it twice without gi. Nice video, I learn somerhing

[@M3124-t5f]

The judoca is Very skilled, even for judo standards. He did some throws that are very rare to see, like kata guruma and sukui gari

[@Boxing-du9sn]

It's not rare against a non judoka

[@burntpotato5970]

These are not rare

[@deinocheirusthebestduck5447]

It's more easy throwing someone that doesn't know judo

[@prvtthd401]

​@@burntpotato5970it's rare under the current judo ruleset, but shouldn't be rare in a good judo school

[@M3124-t5f]

@@burntpotato5970 kata guruma is Very rare nowadays. When i used to compete it was not, but ever since they banned leg techniques its rarelly seen

[@moimeme9861]

Judo guy is very good, he did some boxing also. Definitely deserved the win. Very interesting fight, thank you.

[@FightCommentary]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bobbys1308]

​@Muay-MMA And vice versa.

[@larsheuker]

Technically if this was a streetfight the judo guy would have won 9 times and maintain ground control, there is no standing up without those rulea

[@monarch1651]

Yeah I'm a fan of king of dragons but the 10 second ground rule is super dumb since that's just about how long it takes to wear out someone who's grabbing you's grip.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

​@@monarch1651 yeah

[@ElDrHouse2010]

just like all MMA tournaments out there now. Grappling is king & has always been but Muay Thai's popularity & the audience short attention span makes it so grappling dominance aint entertaining enough for them.

[@dabunnyrabbit2620]

Not necessarily, get someone with great timing and a good right, the only one going to the ground is the judo guy. I was a bouncer/doorman for 6 years, (2nd degree BB in 3 hard traditional styles, cage fought etc.) seen and been in the middle of all kinds of crazy shit. And just because a guy knows grappling doesn't mean he's automatically gonna win.

[@monarch1651]

@@dabunnyrabbit2620 stop talking out of ass bro. A lot of people here actually do mma. Your tiny knowledge of a few combat sports words and the 2 months of karate your mom payed for won't trick people into thinking you're knowledgeable here.

[@LoconStratos]

I’m a boxer but with a fascination with Judo, especially in its purest form not just Olympic. But it’s great to see them more often in competition now.

[@Seekingtruth-mx3ur]

I box too and thinking of learning judo or combat sambo.

[@justinwallace269]

Awesome fight! I'm slightly bias because I'm a big Judo fan, but this just shows how effective it can be, especially if that were concrete. Even though I'm not a fan of locking up with someone for too long, no-gi Judo is such a valuable skill for when someone gets past your initial line of defense. If you have to lock up with someone, might as well know how to end it fast with a shattering throw.

[@aurorastarfury]

Yeah Judo throws are no joke. People have straight-up died from being thrown on concrete.

[@justinwallace269]

@aurorastarfury Absolutely 💯 Real world fights are such a game changer because of all the additional factors. I had a fun time watching the self-defense tournament with all the martial arts youtubers because it really showed some of the glaring differences between sport fighting and real fighting. I feel people need to be more aware of these things.

[@M3124-t5f]

No gi judo is a completly different thing. I'm Brown belt and started training no gi Just for the Fun with my friend after muay Thai classes and Man, its really hard to adapt. But a Very valuable skill

[@justinwallace269]

@M3124 Yeah, it's totally different when you don't have a sleeve or lapel to grip. The gi is usually so tough and easy to grip that even normal clothes would be hard to adapt to, let alone a body. It's not really accurate to life training in that sense. Gymnastic style grip training might help for no-gi since you often have to grab the wrist instead of the sleeve. Great for core training and explosiveness too.

[@Bartron_Flat_Earth]

@aurorastarfury Who died with a Judo throw?

[@danteeudora6330]

That has to be one of the most fun fights I have seen on this channel. Very interesting clash of styles. I must say judo guy was competent enough at striking to hold his own standing and would have obviously dominated if it was a true mma match.

[@LINKchris87]

As a Sanda and Judo guy I enjoyed this a lot. This fighter was really good. Good video Jerry!!

[@FightCommentary]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Yourdrunkuncledave]

Sanda and Judo sounds like a dope combination

[@LINKchris87]

@@Yourdrunkuncledave Yeah man, I enjoy the mix a lot. Recently got into BJJ to improve my ground game and dude is that shit tough. Bros ragdoll me without a sweat 😅

[@bruceparker6142]

Judo pairs with Sanda beautifully.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Judo pairs with basically every striking art ever hahaha

[@chrislaid214]

True! If they add Muaythai elbows it would be a complete fighting system.

[@sopmodP90]

That is like attaching a m203 grenade launcher to your M4

[@baqikenny]

haha in reality, sanda throws are actually directly based on many judo throws effective for its strategy to win in its rules, this is no secret, the founder Mei Huizhi of sanda comittee in the 80s openly welcomed various kungfu and world martial artists from around the world to beijing shishahai district for exchange and contribution to sanshou rules, he and the sport admin guys liked international wrestling and judo rules to be the core for throwing and takedowns in sanda

[@adim00lah]

Sanda guys train shuai jiao, they don't use or need judo, lol.

[@joe94c]

Judo has to be among the best of TMAs. Alongside muay thai of course. But judo is more overlooked

[@lancemannly]

Honestly the fact that we even label it a TMA is a big reason for that perception. I mean its younger than western boxing and only predates BJJ by less than 50 years

[@bruceparker6142]

@@lancemannly Wouldn't it be considered an amalgamation of specific old Japanese ju-jitsu techniques? Those techniques that can be practised by a civilian population.

[@monarch1651]

@joe cunningham yeah like that guy said, no martial art besides some useless ones are really "traditional". Most would be completely unrecognizable today. Muay Thai had essentially 1 punch pre 1900 and it was looked down upon to use them. Most fights ended in leg kick tkos. Then muay thai fighters started using western boxing combinations and suddenly were able to beat the kyokushin guys who had dominated the region for nearly a century. Tbh the oldest and most "traditional" martial arts in the world is whatever your countries folk wrestling style is. Every culture has one.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

​@@monarch1651 almost, you mean hahahaha

[@michaelterrell5061]

@@lancemannlyYeah, but if you’re gonna label shotokan karate as a TMA or several styles of Chinese martial arts, or TKD and Hapkido, or Aikido for instance, then why would you not label judo a traditional martial art? Judo’s as traditional as they come, heck the belt system was invented by judo’s founder Jigaro Kano.

[@akiroai6577]

shows how important it is to implement judo into your fighting style!! some people just settle with bjj but judo is very much worth it to learn

[@FightCommentary]

This awesome league’s channel is linked in the endcards and description.

[@Kit533]

EL DE MUAY THAI NO TIENE HONOR,Y MUCHO MENOS ES UN BUEN PELEADOR; EL DE JUDO LO APLASTÓ Y EL REFERÍ Y LOS JUECES NO DECLARABAN LA VICTORIA A PESAR DE QIE EL DE MUAYTHAI ROMPIA LAS REGLAS UNA Y OTRA VEZ. ESTE EVENTO ESTA COMPRADO Y RS UNA VERGÜENZA PARA LAS ARTES MARCIALES.

[@wanabisufi8843]

Alot of judoka can't throw anyone without a gi. This guy is really good to pull it off so many times so well.

[@FightCommentary]

He’s also trained sanda, so he’s a very cool judoka who tests his judo in sanda. So some, including my man Victor from Ukraine, says it’s better to call our man Sanda based, but he’s much more judo trained than sanda trained, so I still call him a judoka.

[@Thesavagesouls]

There's tons of no gi technique in Judo.

[@wanabisufi8843]

@@Thesavagesouls yeah but most judoka arn't good at them.

[@nickshhhhhh]

Every judoka who’s above yellow belt can throw without a gi.

[@Toxicgamerdog]

judo guy seems like he thought he was sparring

[@FightCommentary]

Yeah. His strikes besides that one in round three were all sparring strikes.

[@joaoeu3889]

Nice Fight !!! Respect!!! is hard to make our body loose in a fight and use oponent strenght as judo says ... nice mentality from both!

[@official_liberal_chungus7825]

My bread and butter is judo and dutch kickboxing what i noticed is the judoka isn't attacking the legs enough

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Exactly, he needs to try more Ashi Waza! I saw many opportunities for it. He also did not try a lot of Sutemi waza.

[@robertnewell4054]

Sensei Benny “The Jet” Urquidez had the best hip toss in KickBoxing/Muay Thai. His were so thunderous & devastating he would get the K.O. Win as his opponents weren’t able to stand

[@pieterlindeque7798]

Man I love Benny. His philosophy of going from defensive excellence to vicious offence in the blink of an eye is beautiful.

[@Seekingtruth-mx3ur]

@@pieterlindeque7798 The guy was smooth af. He was in the zone all the time.

[@renangeek47]

Wow such a nice fight. As a thai fighter I have to say the judo guy was impressive and deserved the win. I'm looking forward to update my skills and I was thinking in jiu jitsu+thai but now I think judo could be a killer plus too. Damn these throws were brutal, just imagine this on solid concrete. Almost devious.

[@fundorgon]

Absolutey true, if it were concrete they would be in serious trouble, potentially fatal damage to the back of the head.

[@tjsho417]

Honestly just comparing styles I consider this a Sanda vs Muay Thai rather than a Judoka vs Muay Thai because blue’s takedowns and strikes were both solid. He won because of the takedowns.

[@user-vy2iz8cw8c]

Yeah, definitely sanda given those side kicks, snappy leg kicks, and single leg takedowns

[@mitchjames9350]

Judo throws while in a Muay Thai clinch would be the ultimate defence against the clinch.

[@joshuabrant7689]

They banned judo throws in muay thai specifically because Japanese fighters kept doing it to avoid the clinch

[@user-pd9ju5dk5s]

​@@joshuabrant7689that wasnt the reason

[@misterrr7]

​@@user-pd9ju5dk5syeah right. And what was the reason then?

[@joaoeu3889]

judo know how hit the floor, muay thai fighters don't ... if muay thay fighters hit the floor hard they can guet very serious injuries , expecialy in theyr back and neck...

[@ElDrHouse2010]

Grapplers have always got robbed a little after the UFC (and all other MMA tournaments followed suit) and changed rules. The only place left to watch more accurate fights but it ain't popular enough is Vale Tudo. 1 round, time limit is like an hour.

[@alexparada607]

I like the excitement of this guy's commentaries. Keep it up

[@syedmurtaza8106]

0:30 Fight is finish.

[@iamshredder3587]

Great fight. Both high level fighters, good match up, and both gave an impressive performance and showed heart. Kudos and respects to both men. The winners definitely been a high level judoka, seems pretty good all round too. His boxing and counterpunching was better than i expected or i typically see in judoka. Which as someone who started boxing and judo both the same week at six years old and pretty much forms my base it was nice to see. Though ive had abut of mt craze years in their too so im abit conflicted haha but both are great snd should be proud. Thanks for sharing.

[@VernCrisler]

Grappling was the main thing missing from full contact martial arts back in the days of Benny Urquidez and others. The idea was that once you've got someone on the ground, you grab his privates and squeeze. That way, you eliminated the threat. Obviously, that can't be done in sports competition, so grappling was never emphasized as part of matches prior to MMA. This sort of match shows how important it is.

[@Gymthingz]

Martial arts had grappling back in the day. It was changed because they wanted to make it a spectator sport.

[@VernCrisler]

@@Gymthingz No, if you watch full contact matches, such as Benny Urquidez' matches, there was no grappling. Grappling tends to be very boring and they wanted flashy, exciting kicks back in those days.

[@vittocrazi]

​@@VernCrislerfull Contact didnt. Other martial arts did

[@gb5584]

Where is the source for balls ?

[@Unstrict]

​@gb5584 the crotch

[@gengotaku]

This is a reason not to mess with judokas!!In a real life situation a fight doesn't START on the ground but FINISHES on the ground at the moment you're thrown.

[@lynnternet9135]

Man I loved this vid

[@douglasgomesbueno1526]

Man I love Judo one of the Best Japan Martial Arts.

[@PetPalsTV21]

Looks like two judo guys doing stand up fighting)

[@dusandragovic09srb]

Ending was the best, respectful 👍

[@Krazzy.gg.gaming]

Ive been a kick boxing practinioner for a long time but i still decided to learn basic judo and wrestling

[@rohitchaoji]

A muay thai fighter probably has to practice resisting the urge to clinch while going against a grappler in a style vs style type of bout

[@PeanutButterCoffeeBread]

true, more teeps and disengage right away

[@shadowfighter6445]

Comment 12 on video catching up Judo guy was awesome, he even showed good sportsmanship in the end. This is my favorite one so far 😄🥊.

[@mizutxko]

The Judo guy tanked the Muay Thai guy's 12 to 6 elbow to his traps thats crazy 💀. Imagine Mixing Judo, Wrestling, and Muay thai thats just pure clinch + grappling and add some BJJ groundwork with boxing basics

[@HeathenRides]

I like that ten seconds rule and the level here all hobby guy's who are serious about their fun can participate. Kind of like the muay thai bars in the 80s and 90s just slightly more serious and less drunken bets

[@pepiyobudoka5486]

Really cool throws!!!

[@wemersomdasilvacaruso994]

Sharing some thoughts here and possibly hoping for some responses from those who understand judo and wrestling as individual arts as well as their application in mma and self defense. 1- Just from what I've watched on videos and from what I've seen people talk about judo being more technical, it seems to me that this description comes from the visual notion that in judo you have to support the opponent's weight on your back or push putting the foot back (ashibarai), 2- while in wrestling you have to have a hell of a forward impulse, like shooting at the beginning of the race, shooting left or right to go to the side and even consequently go to the opponent's back after that if possible, and that impulse it seems to me that it requires greater strength and resistance to do this constantly, not to mention the techniques that require lifting the opponent in the air, I imagine that this is very tiring, 3- already in judo it seems to require a certain level of strength but not as much as in wrestling, however, judo seems to demand a more perfect timing as a result 4- Regarding mma, considering the points mentioned above, I would say that judo, as it does not focus on that impulse with the legs forward, like the dash in running, is better for those whose game is more focused on clinching, because I'll be hooked 5- As for wrestling, I would say that it's better for those who don't want to be clinched or exchange blows in the short, staying in the long and as soon as possible using that wrestling impulse to grab and go straight to the ground, without giving a chance for clinch or striking. 6- In self-defense I am in extreme doubt, because Judo nogi and gi you only need to grab if the guy manages to shorten(that would be the priority) or if you want to go short (which doesn't look good to me on the street), however, I've seen a lot of people saying that judo is harder to learn well, so if you want something more immediate wrestling seems like the best option, however, what if a heavier and reasonably athletic guy than you is trying to beat you? If he grabs you, wouldn't judo be better because it requires less stamina and strength? Having to lift a much heavier guy seems very difficult to me, however, there is also the point that maybe most people would lose against a heavier and stronger guy with grappling fights if they are not exceptional in their art. What if you have to be exceptional, judo or wrestling? I separated them by numbers to make it easier to correct possible mistakes of mine, and I know that both arts have techniques in common, but I want to pay attention here to what is unique to each one, something that makes them unique to the point that you don't change one by another. That's it, waiting for feedback I'm Brazilian, sorry for my English if there's something you don't understand

[@The_true_Joe_mama]

Amigo, o kumikata(pegada) no judo é treinado de forma a controlar e fazer aberturas na guarda do adversário. Movimentar a cabeça e demais apêndices do adversário. Tradicionalmente, temos pegadas nas pernas e chaves em pé, tal como o udegarami/kimura. Se você desejasse combinar alguns golpes para amolecer o adversário, o judô seria melhor no clinche, assim como o muay thai demonstra uma estratégia similar.

[@danielmontilla1197]

What you perceive in terms of the stylistic differences between Judo and wrestling is essentially correct. Since the infamous ban on leg grabs, Judo is practiced with a more upright posture and an emphasis on upper body control and grip fighting, pretty much like Greco. Freestyle wrestling demands a much lower stance that allows for explosive shoots and defenses. However, it's not true that one is more "technical" than the other, they are two equally complex forms of grappling in which timing, speed and isometric and isotonic strength are equally important. In both sports you are pulling, lifting and resisting other people's bodies, and you need to be explosive and methodical, albeit in different ways. Now, in MMA most people will tell you that having a good takedown game from the clinch and from the close/mid distance is equally important, because you will be in both situations inside the octagon, against the cage or closing the distance after a striking exchange, for example. There're fighters who prefer clinch takedowns because if you botch a double leg you can end up sprawled, in a guillotine or directly in your opponent's guard, whereas a good hip throw or slam leaves you, at the very least, in side control. The double leg, regardless, is very good defensively, because it allows you to close the distance fast when the pressure is on, and offensively setting up striking/shooting combos. Regarding self defense, there's a lot of nuance to this topic but let me tell you my opinion as a judoka (the bias has been obvious so far lol): What's more natural and safe in fighting, an upright stance that allows for strilking and footwork, or a crouched stance with hands and knees close to the ground? (Speaking of knees, keep in mind that double legs on concrete can be pretty gnarly). Judo also has submissions, same as BJJ for obvious reasons, and most of the wrestling takedowns are the same in Judo, some with and some without grips. However, yes, the learning curve in Judo is trickier, you'll need to put up with it for longer before "getting there".

[@wemersomdasilvacaruso994]

@@danielmontilla1197 And about the cloth to have a footprint, do you think that a normal shirt serves as a footprint to take down an aggressor on the street? Like, I know it's going to tear, but even if you do, can you take the guy to the ground with reasonable efficiency? Or the aggressor would need to be wearing a coat and if not, I have to grab the wrist/body?

[@danielmontilla1197]

@@wemersomdasilvacaruso994 You can absolutely throw people wearing a shirt and, frankly, many people are too dismissive of the role of clothing in self-defense. Grips on clothing are inevitable in a street fight, it's almost instinctual for people pumped full of adrenaline to reach and grab onto something, and Judo gets you used to deal with that and take advantage of it. Once you see on the mat how much you can control a resisting body using grips, it becomes clear why Judo is the go-to art for police and military training around the globe. But besides that, you wouldn't want to rely on fabric to make your Judo work. Most Judo throws existed before the introduction of the Gi, so they have "No Gi" variations that only require a basic over-under clinch to work. Lastly, many of the main Judo throws don't require gripping at all: Morote gari, aka. double leg, Kuchiki taoshi, aka. knee pick/single leg, Kibisu gaeshi, aka. heel pick, Te guruma, aka. high crotch, Ura nage, aka. suplex/body slam, the "bodylock" takedowns like Tani otoshi, aka. rear trip, Yoko guruma, aka. lat drop, etc.

[@terrykim2748]

To put it very simply, I’d put it this way: With clothes (so self-defense) -> go with judo. With less clothes (MMA, pool party?) -> go with wrestling. But grappling is grappling and with enough depth of knowledge and experience, one translates to another very well, including bjj.

[@kBarBeats]

the judoka guy went wild in the 2nd round, do that in the streets and you be crippling somebody for sure!

[@baoxidiaoyu]

Thanks, grappling ftw

[@tougeattack123]

i really liked judo i only trained for 1 and half years but after 2 inuries in my knees i switched to bjj. But the problem is they removed so many things from judo like the double leg take down that is very powefull imo and most schools train for sport judo

[@theplan-m6c]

Just want to say that head movement can work in kickboxing or mma. But it's more useful in boxing.

[@ISGSAGE]

Yeah because boxing is upper-body fighting but head movement should still be a mandatory overall

[@joshuabrant7689]

Head movement is just more risky with kicks and knees allowed you might lean into an attack.

[@theplan-m6c]

@joshuabrant7689 just Hands up while doing it.

[@joshuabrant7689]

@@theplan-m6c If you lean into a knee keeping your hands up isn't going to save you lol

[@drakootherat1735]

I dont get what the rules are here. Its like you're allowed on the ground but only for like 5 sec? What kinda broken MMA muay Thai hybrid is this?

[@rogermanley9017]

Great Judo skills! I liked watching Karo Parisyan back in the day, as well as, other judokas who made the crossover into MMA !!

[@FightCommentary]

Could you share some links of Kari Parisyan?

[@rogermanley9017]

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[@rogermanley9017]

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[@rogermanley9017]

@@FightCommentary m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4eumZ6OgsiDm5Y

[@rogermanley9017]

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[@RavageEffex]

Its was a good match between both fighters both got there shots in judo guy did his thing but also ate so many knees and punches one good punch and broken orbital bone can ruin a career

[@zartic4life]

Lapel (back of the neck) sleeve (grab wrist or tricep depending on throw). Those 9 throws would have required the Mua Thai guy to have 9 lives in the real world.

[@angryzombie8088]

The Judoka won several times in this fight if the referee didnt stand them up. But the defense of the Judoka is not good, good head movement but he is not an elite striker either.

[@heliopijpe]

Judo guy didnt have strong kicks or punches, but good gauging, and a nice right arm! Awesome , and he took the vicious mt beating.. 5:24 throw was epic and 9:18 noone saw that comming

[@PeanutButterCoffeeBread]

no one saw it coming except maybe for his coach. good shit

[@DarukaEon]

Hoo hoo hoo! I love me good Judo throws!

[@livingeveryday777]

Judo: the gentle way..def shows here! Geez bro! Lunch harder and faster!! 🤛 It’s like he’s scared to throw a punch

[@nhbf00_]

Can you give a link to the original fighting production. Which country is this fight league in ? What's the name of the league

[@FightCommentary]

Links are in description and endcards.

[@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique]

Teep kick counters are illegal, because they can crush an opponent’s shins during their round kicks. Very brutal how a simple move is outside of the ring and cage. Basically if you see your opponent doing a wide slow roundhouse, you can teep kick his shins

[@b66wky]

We, nak muays, the muay thai guys, have to admit the one weakness of our martial art: We are very susceptible to grapplers, and we gotta face it

[@farkinarkin5099]

It really looks like both were testing techniques out and clearly were not out to hurt one another. Judo is awesome. Like wrestling and BJJ, if they get a hold of you, you better know ways to get out... otherwise you are seconds away from tapping. Yes. One can be on the receiving end of only so many throws.

[@Quidoute]

they were out to hurt one another, their were knees in this match

[@freewheelin3550]

@@Quidoute i don't know. They didn't look all "I'm gonna kill this man in the octagon", like the gnp and armbar didn't look too vicious. It makes sense too, like they're apparently fighting for 1000-2000 dollars and the judoka didn't even make weight. The knees are just standard muay Thai too. These guys probs have work coming up and know that they're not in UFC or ONEfc so no need to go for brutal glory. Look at the end too, no ego, they know they're not rising stars or world class elites so they just look to compete and improve because they love what they do.

[@haroldcruz8550]

What are you talking about, it's a fight, they are trying to hurt each other, they just can't fully commit to their techniques cause they are pretty even. They both don't want to make a blunder that would cost them the fight.

[@farkinarkin5099]

@@haroldcruz8550 5:27 would have been a different if it was about trying to hurt each other. Really.

[@02337755]

00:30 Poor guy gets a great throw then has to hold his breath for 10 seconds.

[@FightCommentary]

HAHAHAH ;)

[@olivierciserane4923]

Hé looks more like a sanda Guy than a judo Guy. Side kicks ,+ leg throws

[@davida.rosales6025]

What's interesting is that the judo guy here is doing some stuff that is common to Sanda and MMA but it's a big no-no in traditional judo: single leg standing takedowns with two hands on one leg like that. That doesn't even exist in Judo. In traditional Judo we know that is a one-way ticket to losing, and we also learn that in a self-defense situation it is a one-way ticket to death. In old times, that would have meant a knife to the back of the neck.

[@danle3181]

Judo is based on principles. You don't need sleeves (or collars) to apply those principles. You just have to adapt the technique.

[@closeredge5198]

Low kicks, punches, and knees is all the muay thai guy should use

[@stefanhansen5882]

Your commentary is freaking funny! Awesome!

[@FightCommentary]

Glad you think so!

[@RafaelSantos.RS87]

Judo or Sanda? 🤔

[@xavierthemalsithacentvader2349]

If you're a practioner in one of these different styles matches, you definitely need to know how they'll be scoring, what counts as a score!

[@joshstriker9842]

When your getting grappled or when they are charging at your hips can't u just elbow them in the back of the head or knee them in front of you? please explain

[@Domzdream]

Such a great fight! Great!

[@ComicusFreemanius]

Muay Thai guy broke the contact by sliding off the hip to the side but it was super close to being a throw.

[@trumplostlol3007]

Judo is supposed to be a self defense martial art that assumes the ground is made of concrete or at least mud. Get rid of the soft pad there and you will start to see how effective Judo really is. LOL

[@TejasNarvekar-k6o]

Why is Bill Burr doing the commentary here ?! 😮

[@WadeSmith-oe5xd]

I'd like to see an Isshinryu Karate black belt fight vs either of these guys. You might be shocked what you can learn from a 43 years old.

[@kellymontgomery1293]

i only counted six, but that is 6 more than zero. Judo works

[@m7776d]

imagine training judo and muay thai

[@slothsloth4043]

I don't understand why the muay thai guy isn't popping his hips in and out of the clinch maintaining control, as this is something even I have learnt in muay thai.

[@jpacampara21]

the judo guy could have finished this if there was no 10 second rule. I think they should revise that there's not alot of ground combat but overall good fight.

[@HAQEEMisHERE]

Please folks, don't throw a front kick when your legs are tired

[@FightCommentary]

If you like this match, make sure to stay tuned for the next season of KOD Championship (龙中之王). The links to their channel is in the description and endcards!

[@Quix1975]

Why are you so in love with the muy thai guy?

[@ChrisCantCook]

Most the time people put Muay Thai over judo on tier list, they need to see these videos

[@lovepeace9841]

cause Muay Thai is limited here

[@ISGSAGE]

Muay Thai + Boxing Fundamentals such as head movements + Judo = Ultimate Combo (Imo)

[@monarch1651]

Muay Thai wasn't formidable at all until they adopted boxing fundamentals in the early 20th century. Kyokushin fighters beat all challengers for nearly a century until Muay Thai fighters began using boxing techniques to dominate everyone.

[@judomaster3263]

Traditional Muay Thai also known as Muay boran had really good punches, so when the new rules were created In 1929 the new Muay Thai fighters had solid punching fundamentals COMPARED to martial artist like Kung Fu or karatekas. Muay boran fighters always had straight punches, Hooks and upecuts, hammer fist, and they used the whole body while punching not like the arm punches of karate and Kung Fu. This is the reason of why combining boxing with Muay Thai is easy

[@combatsportsarchive7632]

Then how come there are Muay Thai fighters who got knocked down by Karate fighters who used those arm punches? Look for my first video which is called Muay Thai Vs Karate Part One for examples.

[@Bartron_Flat_Earth]

@monarch1651 Kyokushin fighters beat all challengers for nearly a CENTURY?? Kyokushin is not that old 🙄 they had their first Tournament in the 70s. They just had a few fights vs Muay Thai

[@monarch1651]

@@Bartron_Flat_Earth the style of kyokushin is far older than the name kyokushin. It's origins are in the mid 1800s.

[@cahallo5964]

The muay thai guy got owned

[@user-eh6rs7ws5]

マウント取ってからが本番なのにレフェリーが止めるの早すぎる

[@skipsch]

Ha somehow I knew that was the judo guy without having my audio on. I think it's how he's bouncing around so lightly or something

[@FightCommentary]

I just watched it without sound to see what you saw ;)

[@skipsch]

@@FightCommentary I noticed that kinda movement in another of your style versus style uploads, the judo guy was in a full blue outfit and had a cool takedown at the start

[@stephanwatson7902]

A lot of people don't know that Bruce Lee actually trained Judo for 5 years, he had four Judo teachers including Champion wrestler and Champion judoka Gene Labell (who also taught Bruce wrestling), ontop of that Lee also trained some Jiu-jitsu with Small Circle Jiu-jitsu! And Gene in an interview said Bruce was a good grappler; Gene said Chuck Norris was a "great grappler", but Chuck got to continue training grappling

[@Bartron_Flat_Earth]

@stephanwatson7902 Lebell didn't teach him, there is people that like to say that they teach him something. Norris said he teach him how to kick, Jhoon Rhee also said he teached him how to kick, all liars

[@stephanwatson7902]

@@Bartron_Flat_Earth Yes no one taught Bruce Lee judo and wrestling, he just magically trained it alone....Gene said he taught Lee judo and wrestling for a year and then Lee taught him more about striking at Lee's place for a year. Just because some people have lied doesn't mean they all have...none of Lee's family, students, or friends have ever ONCE said Gene lied about Bruce and he's been talking about this for decades. It's impressive that Bruce rolled and wrestled with champion grapplers and champion wrestlers and that he sparred with pro kickboxers

[@Jonke75]

What is up with this fight. A Muay thai fighter that is not using teeps or leg kicks? Their best weapon to soften up their opponents. Here the Judoka is doing all of the the leg kicks and most of the punching.

[@lovepeace9841]

of course Muay thai is restricted

[@bowensaver2326]

You can do ippon seoi nagi without the sleeve to grab. It's harder, and you can't do it exactly the same, but the basic idea and mechanic is the same 🥋

[@grsimpson3957]

I don't know if it's harder. As a wrestler, I can hit arm throws all day long with bare skin. It might be easier with the gi for an experienced Judoka, but I'm not well trained enough in Judo to do it comfortably with the gi

[@douglasgomesbueno1526]

The two guys fight Muay Thai but one of Them know Grappling too.

[@spaideman7850]

this muay thai guy obviously fight like level 1 muay thai skill

[@kidnamedre]

People don’t understand who much energy it drains from you being slammed

[@立花たくや]

Might be enough, if it was concrete instead of mats

[@gameshoww1]

Would've been enough if they didn't wear gloves...

[@MrHase-jn6rv]

Fight would end in a minute if they could stay at the ground

[@tsurugi5]

well yeah...it's not concrete, if the guy had a pistol it would be more than enough but obviously that is not the case

[@立花たくや]

@@tsurugi5 It's a what-if about combat sports, not assassination. If that analogy was too much, then how about "Might have been enough, if it was a boxing ring instead of mats", or any other ground type that wasn't designed specifically cushion to throws

[@lasciamoperde]

Se dovessi giocare d'astuzia per aggiudicarmi la vittoria, non cercherei mai il clinch contro un judoka, anche se sono abile di ginocchio e gomito... Userei più tocca e rientra, quindi striking a distanza... sempre!

[@Quix1975]

Why are you so In Love with the .muy thai guy?

[@giorgioterzo6702]

Man, the guy with blue trunks is a Sanda fighter, the throws are very similar to judo but Sanda have striking techniques as well, overall Wushu Sanda is a more complete style, perfect for mma 😉

[@juanolivo324]

for street fight judo is probably one of the best skills you can have..you just need to put the opponent down and keep on punching him (some boxing or muay thai would help)..i did judo for few years, had a fight last night with a much bigger guy in the club..the fight was over in less than 2 minutes, dude couldnt even touch me..that was probably my 6th fight as an adult and im 37..i would say if you are the type not to start fights and you know how to walk away, you will probably never have to fight or very rarely so even just having basic skills would destroy the average guy in the streets..you dont need to be a black belt to fight the average guy in the streets unless you are from a country where there are too many good fighters roaming around (brazil, russia, angola, New York city (a city, not a country i know)

[@FightCommentary]

What happened? Did you throw the person who attacked you?

[@juanolivo324]

he was asking me to move so he can go to the bar and buy a drink (i wasnt even blocking the way to the bar), i told him there is a lot of space here, you can go to the other side, his gf kinda pushed him to knock me out, he just decided to push me, soon as he pushed me that was enough reason to attack him, i grabbed him by the legs and threw him over..i got on top of him and when i was about to start punching him, securities came to break up the fight..everyone in the bar couldnt believe that i won the fight lol..im 5ft6 and skinny he was like 6ft2 and much more built than i am..im sure if i didnt have any martial arts training, i wouldnt even attempt to fight him...also i cant believe most parents dont even get their kids into martial arts, i think is almost mandatory

[@FightCommentary]

Sometimes, the tall guys who don't train are the worst. They don't know how bad their center of gravity is ;) I'm sure this 6'2 person learned that the night he tried to attack you.

[@leebates8958]

The judo guy obviously has stand up/ muay thai experience

[@danle3181]

Concrete and the muay thai guy is done...

[@Swishasweet2811]

if muay thai and judo become one then that will become a deadly martial art lol

[@soumia31sousou40]

i am a judoguy but respect all martial arts so muy thai is also good especialy in striking if you know judo and muythai is better

[@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv]

It seems like under the rules of this bout they're limited to a few seconds on the ground.

[@DreanPetruza]

the 10 second rule and having no kimono totally undermines Judo. The judoka won because he was able to neutralize the opponent, but just neutralizing doesn't make exciting fights.

[@AGuy-s5v]

I honestly don't think it undermines Judo in the slightest. The main goal of Judo is not the pin, but throwing your opponent with speed, technique, and power. In lamen's terms: placing your opponent wherever you want to put them. If you can do that to your opponent twice, you're more likely to win. But 9 times? You can do whatever you want to a fully resisting person if you can throw them 9 times. It's a clear show of dominance.

[@DreanPetruza]

But the judoka didn't do anything other than throwing his opponent. It's a show of dominance, yes, and I think that's what gave him the win, but in MMA standards, throwing someone 9 times and nothing else doesn't get you very far. And the goal of Judo is ok within Judo rules, but in an MMA cage if you don't have any chance of finishing them there's almost no point to it.

[@AGuy-s5v]

@@DreanPetruza Right, I agree. You should have more that just throws in a cage fight. (Mostly because intentionally spiking your opponent in a cage fight is dangerous and illegal) It still doesn't detract from the fact that dominance is a big part of it. It displays: Control, maximizing damage to the opponent, and minimizes damage to yourself (which the last point is probably the biggest benefit ngl). So if the Judoka had a great ground and pound control game (submissions are not as necessary as some would think) it would be a very solid game plan.

[@johnsnider2956]

​@petruza8622 ok? He scored more because of his takedowns and control. That's what won him the fight by the rules. In the street those throws hit a lot harder.

[@FightCommentary]

You're trying to reason with someone who called the gi "kimono" XDD

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

Show this to people who say Judo without gi is useless. No Gi exists, and even without gi you could just improvise.

[@jaymorris3468]

The judo guy doesn't follow through when he should, on concrete though different ball game

[@jaymorris3468]

You don't need to follow through 99% of the time after being thrown on concrete

[@AlphaBravoDingo]

Should've used his side kicks more!