Joe Rogan on Why Jiu-jItsu Guys Should Know Judo

[@cesarcanete3402]

Judo is hands down, one of thee most underrated, underappreciated Martial Arts. Judo deserves more credit because it's highly effective in self defense, sport & MMA. Plus, Judo isn't complicated to learn & you can be adequate at best in a short amount of time. I do it & I love it. Its one of those minimal effort produces maximum results methods. If you know Judo, then the transition to learning BJJ, Sambo, Submission Arts Wrestling, etc will be a piece of cake because Judo is the parent/foundation of those martial arts. That's how valuable & essential Judo is in Martial Arts & Self defense. Can't go wrong with Judo.

[@RhinoXpress]

Yep. the biggest misconception about judo, is that judo just teaches you how to throw people. There is a lot more to judo, than just learning how to throw people.

[@cesarcanete3402]

@@RhinoXpress Yes I agree. Judo does have groundwork & submissions (although not heavily featured as much than the throws). Chokes & armbars just like BJJ. All the fundamentals, rolls, falls, drills, etc in BJJ & Sambo are the same in Judo (just a little bit more added to it). Also, just like BJJ, Judo doesn't require any strength or power, just leverage & proper technique. I've seen a frail, 93 year old man do some gnarly judo throws & submissions on ppl much, much bigger, younger, stronger than himself. That's what makes Judo soooo awesome!! Judo really deserves much more respect & recognition. I love that I'm a Judoka.

[@societybelike]

@@cesarcanete3402 I absolutely agree with u, I hate the whole, "KOSEN JUDO IS BETTER THAN BJJ" or "BJJ IS BETTER THAN KOSEN JUDO". I much prefer to appreciate all arts for their inherent capability in the street, even my bjj teacher says there's no harm in being open about doing multiple. Big respect man, love how much u guys and I aren't just tryna get into a massive circle jerk dick measuring contest. Lol

[@cesarcanete3402]

@@societybelike Thanks man. I really appreciate that. I always try & keep an open mind & explore various martial arts that best compliments my personality. I don't believe one martial art is superior than the other, I believe its more about finding the ones that you connect with the best, combining it & integrating it all into one. For me, I started off with Boxing, Judo & Catch as catch can wrestling. That was my foundation & felt that best complimented my personality & learning style because I 3 different learning disabilities (dyslexia, ADD & dyscalculia). Once my foundation became second nature, I started experimenting & integrating other martial arts similar to those like Dutch Kickboxing, 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu & Russian Sambo (both Combat & Sport). In the future, I absolutely would love to integrate some of the more self defense martial arts into my arsenal such as Filipino Martial Arts, Kenpo Karate & Jeet Kune Do. To me, Martial Arts is a spiritual journey of character development through the disciplines. Its more than just learning to defending oneself, its about finding oneself though the martial arts path. Its a never ending pathway because you truly never ever become a grandmaster on many disciplines or master certain disciplines, but forever a steward of the martial arts disciplines because of how much the arts have helped you progressed in many areas in your life. That's how I feel about martial arts based on how much its done for me & my life. I love it.

[@cesarcanete3402]

@Daniel Seredin In a way, Judo is like Soccer in the martial arts world. Very popular & valued worldwide except the U.S.

[@supergabee]

I'm Brazilian. As a kid I had Judo and Jiu-Jitsu classes simultaneously. They were pretty much attached to one another.

[@darylfields]

Bjj evolved from judo

[@finnflaherty2442]

Daryl Fields I’m pretty sure it evolved from Japanese Brazilian jui jitsu. Judo did as well

[@PC-qu7zk]

Finnen Flaherty the fuck is Japanese Brazilian jujitsu

[@finnflaherty2442]

• FBI • my bad I meant Japanese jui jitsu

[@finnflaherty2442]

Alexander Supertramp “Japanese jiu jitsu” is the most clear and common way of describing it to avoid confusion between it and BJJ. BJJ does come from Japanese Jiu Jitsu as does Judo, so I factually do know what I’m talking about smartass. And how does making a typo mean you are not knowledgeable on the subject clown

[@sean5278]

Judo saved me when I when I was struck by vehicle while riding a bicycle. Hours of break fall drills as child. As soon as I was airborne I curled in the air and rolled out of it. Gravel in my palms and forearms and a minor wrist sprain. Without judo I would have flown 5' through the air and landed on my face.

[@muayboran6111]

Break falls are probably the best technique for self defence statistically speaking. How often do you ever get into a fight in public? I never, but I can tell you i’ve tripped on curba before, motorcycle accidents (i live in thailand), my dad slipped in the bathroom good thing he knew wrestling and how to break fall.

[@hourglas]

Yes. I learned this from my days of parkour. But after not climbing or jumping in years it's still there and saved me during falls. I've rolled out of falls np. Falls that ive seen other people break wrists or smash their face in.

[@gfys756]

@@muayboran6111 Break falls have saved me more times than I can count. It's a great skill for everybody to learn.

[@vonb2792]

Break fall saved m'y life: fall of bicycle, torn ankle... I Even Break fall in a fight once, i was pushed in the back, i felt rolled on the street and got up ready To fight. Break fall is your best tool To get back on your feets

[@deftrooper]

Dam! that's intense.

[@reiniervanramshorst1031]

Ideally Jiu-Jitsu guys would know Judo, Wrestling, Sambo, Aikido, Sumo, lift weights, do Calisthenics and Plyometrics and advanced Yoga but guess what I'm still struggling to learn some basic Jiu-Jitsu man 😂

[@JeanTheDweller]

Going better now?

[@reiniervanramshorst1031]

@@JeanTheDweller I recently got my purple belt. Still feel the same 😄

[@blanefulkerson8903]

@@reiniervanramshorst1031good on you

[@conorthompson943]

@@reiniervanramshorst1031 I'm just about to start Jiu-Jitsu classes and looking online for some beginners tips I found myself falling dowqn this rabbit hole, all the things you mentioned Judo, Wrestling, Sambo, Aikido, Sumo, lift weights, do Calisthenics and Plyometrics and it's a bit overwhelming lol

[@Heahapn]

​@@conorthompson943don't get invested in the rabbit hole. You'll get overwhelmed and not try it. Use the energy you use to rabbit hole and join one. You really just have to jump in

[@BrandonGiordano]

We have a Judo Black Belt at my school and some Judo lower belts. Having good Judo will skyrocket your jiu jitsu. I personally feel the modern Jiu Jitsu and grappling should be everything (Wrestling, judo, jiu jitsu)

[@iorekby]

That's Dave Camarillo's approach too.

[@tjl4688]

If you want to learn self-defense, you shouldn't be learning sport BJJ at all. Switch over to GJJ instead.

[@osio7528]

@@tjl4688 what is gjj?

[@nenproductions4395]

Which is essentially Jeet Kun Do's philosophy

[@elkazekage3471]

@@osio7528 I am 4 months late, but GJJ stands for Gracie Jiu Jitsu

[@Serbinator_Dominator]

Khabib is Judo black belt, most of his takedowns come from foot sweeps and leg trips, he also has done ichimadas

[@Meinan4370]

The advantage judo guys have over wrestlers is that they are hard to submit. A lot of wrestlers get caught in a lot of submissions: kevin lee and chael

[@rejeebush]

He hit a beautiful uchi mata vs RDA. Shit was savage

[@zero107akb]

u mean uchimata?

[@redhead12555]

Khabib is not a black belt judoka

[@rejeebush]

@@zero107akb no i said what i meant.

[@matthewadams2192]

Showing us Judoka some love🙏

[@Mariasbabyalive]

There was never no marriage. Judo is amazing bro. I do BJJ 4 days a week and Judo 2.

[@boykahamurabi7823]

Khabib did the same thing recently in a discussion with Cejudo. Khabib being a pro in Judo as well said " wrestling is good but Judo is next level, more of an elite sport". Im paraphrasing. It also adds so much to his fight game, most UFC fans don't realise it but he uses Judo very often.

[@niticakiqi4037]

et1981 I wanna do judo cuz I do bjj also but there’s no place near me that does judo:(

[@shaun7244]

Judo is legendary

[@young1daio]

I’m a Muay Thai kick-boxer and Judoka. Judo is perfect when I’m in a clinch.

[@rainjohnson1993]

Anyone that says judo isn’t for self defense has never had a proficient judoka (even yellow belt) throw them. That o-soto-gari will absolutely trash you.

[@jorge.rubiales]

I barely resisted one from a black belt, and he was 20 cm shorter and probably 15 Kg lighter than me

[@i5C0R3Pi0N]

Can you explain / elaborate further please? I'm interested to know. Detail if you can

[@SWard-oe8oj]

@@jorge.rubiales bullshit, there is no resisting it , especially if the guy is shorter than you. You can only dodge it...once the hold is in place there aint no way you are stopping it without a counter. Dont flatter yourself

[@jasonh3188]

makakomi is devastating

[@Trulyniraza]

@@SWard-oe8oj Try resisting an osoto gari from Aurélio Miguel. That guy would reach your leg from a mile away and wouldn't let go for shit. I've done judo and became really good at it, if you can resist a throw then either your opponent wasn't in the best position to throw you and let go in fear of a counter move or you just no-sold the shit out of your opponent's attempt like a mf, which is more unlikely but happens mostly with low belt grades. Receiving an uchi mata is basically the same thing, sometimes you think it wasn't well applied but you go down either way.

[@NQuick-bn7ts]

If you're doing Jujitsu with out Judo, you're only learning half of the art.

[@christyvelez8986]

N. Quick Indubitably

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

A 1/3 actually. 1/3 of jiu jitsu is based on disarming sword/weapon carriers.

[@jimdevalk]

Half of the art? Bob Ross would have something to say ‘bout that bro.

[@youliveandlearn4131]

And if your learning judo with out aikido your only understanding half the concepts of the art. ..

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

@Mitch so why did they mention Judo then?

[@yoavjacoby8246]

What I love about Judo is that it almost comes out of nowhere. Like, with normal wrestling takedowns people usually see it coming and do some sort of maneuver to stop it, and the wrestler has to move around and really struggle. But with judo it's like "we're clinching, I'm gonna try keep it standing" and suddenly - POW - you just hit the floor. Very sneeky.

[@waltherwagner9711]

there are so many good throws out of a clinch position!

[@krissifadwa]

Very great point!

[@sdsumiguel5937]

I use my karate whenever a bad guy comes at me with a small piece of easily breakable wood.

[@saucetacular6092]

Rogans fans are so uneducated on traditional martial arts despite him trying to educate yall

[@Mrraerae]

@@saucetacular6092 dude it was an obvious joke how tf did u get so offended Doing a karate style that has real full resistance drilling and sparring is very good for self defense. They emphasize learning how to throw a hard accurate punch to end a fight quickly before you risk taking damage, and they teach you how to do it with no glove without breaking your hands. And they emphasize in and out movement to again, avoid damage. They also teach some kicking techniques that take into consideration the fact that you're wearing shoes and you might be wearing tight pants that limit your mobility. Very practical for self defense as long as you actually learn how to fight and don't just do katas and "if he does this, then I do this, and I hit here" type of stuff, but actual sparring and hitting the pads and bags

[@saucetacular6092]

@@Mrraerae idk why you think im so offended but your correct. Im not even a karate guy myself just a fairly confrontational youtube commenter

[@Mrraerae]

@@saucetacular6092 okay you didnt get offended but you took an obvious joke as a chance to lecture a dude about shit he doesnt know hahah

[@saucetacular6092]

@@Mrraerae accurate

[@RGTomoenage11]

That may be why judo doesn’t allow standing chokes. I guess they been around long enough to see a lot of shit go wrong.

[@ptrok7328]

I seem to recall in my comp days (the 90s standing chokes were allowed - I suppose they can work if you are the bigger guy but they put both tori and uke in dangerous positions. Example: Fought a BJJ guy at an interclub comp who had started Judo. First, he tried a flying armbar then standing lapel choke (Nami Juji) with his arms crossed when he tried to pull in I instinctively turned for Harai or Uchi. We both went down in a heap I got shitty yuko and he dislocated his shoulder bad ... made a mental to never attempt or teach standing chokes for comp.

[@RGTomoenage11]

Historical Icons Japanese jujitsu was first though.

[@Butch_117]

@Historical Icons Judo actually comes from Japanese jiu jitsu bro

[@MrTangent]

Tenjin Shin'yō-ryū & Kitō-ryū (Japanese Ju-Jitsu) -> Kodokan Judo -> Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu -> Gracie Jiu-Jitsu That is the true lineage.

[@andresjaramillo2635]

@Historical Icons he's talking about japanese jujustsu. It's a form of martial arts used by feudal samurai's when they were armed and or disarmed in battle.

[@hernanmarin3904]

I've been a law enforcement officer for 20 years, and throughout my career I have practiced judo and now Ido BJJ, and more than once I had encountered bad guys that have wanted to take me down and the one thing that has saves my butt were the judo throws.

[@jamesplease1980]

I do both bjj and judo. I have only been in two fights in my life. Both times i instinctively fought judo style. It made sense in the moment. I think bjj is superior in a controlled and safe environment. However, if outnumbered, or on concrete, Judo's efficiency and sense of urgency enabled me to finish it in 2 seconds. With your experience, what's your opinion?

[@Lksz-l9k]

Back in the day, in my BJJ practices we always knew if someone had a judo background. They're built different. It's just not fun. It's like they're literally a different species.

[@darkdrake13]

​​@@jamesplease1980 also law enforcement here. I think it just depends what you're more used to and what the context of the fight is. I found myself using both in different real life altercations , each scenario was very different from the other(ive done both for an equal amount of time)

[@jamesplease1980]

@@Lksz-l9k that's interesting. Can you tell me more about the difference and why it wasnt fun?

[@waltherwagner9711]

Judo and Wrestling are great for law enforcement, because obviously you have to take someone down to handcuff him.

[@lordgaben9721]

Another underrated thing about judo is just it’s that there’s so many great players across the world. I’ve met people who have fought in the olympics and internationally across the world and learned a lot from them. Probably the sport with the highest access to top rated athletes to learn from.

[@iorekby]

Thats actually a great point. It's very common to see elite, Olympic level athletes at small local clubs.

[@waltherwagner9711]

@@iorekby true. I did roll with a japanese olympic athlete in germany. it was awesome and I had no chance, of course.

[@christianzimmerman9627]

I have done BJJ for twenty years. At the age of 50, I had the crazy idea to start training Judo! Boy was I humbled. Judo is so freakin' HARD. I love it, and in my opinion, it is more effective for self-defense in the street. If I'm attacked in the street, no way in hell I'm pulling guard or shooting a double - Osoto, Kouchi, Ouchi Gari ALL DAY. Much love and respect to the Judokas.

[@outis439-A]

Wait, but I did BJJ in 2 schools and they both taught them. Like I remember when I was like really skeptical about some of the stuff they taught like prawning and stuff. But the biggest one was the hip techniques- like I remember being like "does this even work?". Unless you mean you were taught very basic wrestling and Jiu Jitsu?

[@mervinjohnorozco9864]

I'm 40 and thinking about judo. Are we not too old to get slammed around?

[@bolenarrow9286]

@@mervinjohnorozco9864 You have to practice relaxing when you fall. The problem is your natural reactions are really bad for when you get thrown (reaching out with your arms, getting stiff in the shoulders) Practice a -lot- of break falls, and forwards rolls. Eventually it becomes second nature (6x national Judo Champion with 25+ years of experience)

[@dualmass]

I did it in the reverse, trained Judo, got a bit old for 500-600 throws a week, so went to bjj, the bjj black belt was so easy when i compare it to my judo black belt, Judo works

[@ivanivanovic5857]

For me it's Kosoto. Fractured a guy's skull in a club once when he attacked my mate. He hit the ground so hard

[@aritrapramanik1988]

Joe "Try picking up a dead body" Rogan.

[@MartianMoon]

Came here to write the exact same thing LMAO

[@MartianMoon]

Came here to write the exact same thing LMAO

[@Coyote9Tnine]

Just sayin...

[@lukemayer8608]

Damn I heard him say this and scrolled down to comment it and you were the first damn comment 😂

[@SoulPurposeGaming]

What a strange unit of measurement.

[@drutgat2]

Just to be clear - although strength is definitely an element in Judo, technique is often what makes the difference. As Joe said, the idea of torque (an element of technique) is crucial (plus, of course, training various combinations). One of the mistakes that almost everyone makes when they start Judo and have not learned technique is to try to use their strength.

[@soulreaperiix_x8477]

drutgat2 the power is misunderstood as it also involves an interesting technique most overlook, the ability to explode your whole body with max efficacy and efficiency

[@shaun7244]

You need to have strength in ur grip atleast and legs

[@Dece132]

when you get the perfect throw the other person feels weightless sometimes

[@evolution031680]

Makes sense. Same thing goes for boxing.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

A perfect Judo throw feels "weightless", but theres a lot of strength involved in manuvreing the opponent into the position that nullifies their resistance to the throw.

[@Krass.Estranged]

Judo is cool because you control how hard you throw the person, so if your crazy girlfriend tries to attack you you don't need to go to jail.

[@mortexdreammusictv5020]

Softh Control 😁😎

[@Hadeshands]

Bitch control 😂

[@blademaster9575]

This is oddly specific

[@Lordoftheswollen]

@@blademaster9575 I dont want to talk about it.

[@pacibaco]

Ha .... Law enforcement told me “ although she was the aggressor you’re bigger so we will take you in “ careful with your assumptions

[@sz42781]

They should learn judo so I never have to watch a match where a guy sits on his ass and looks at his opponent like " come at me bro".

[@BobBelson]

Lol. Yes , Some of the Keenam Cornelius et al bouts can be unsettling .

[@sz42781]

You should be allowed to kick a guy if he does that bs 😄

[@Kitajima2]

@@sz42781 You would have loved Pride Fighting in Japan during it's days. You could 100% soccer kick guys on the ground. The Gracies did not do well over there, with the exception of Rickson. But Rickson didn't do Pride, and he ducked Sakuraba

[@jackj9816]

That’s why I like judo more if you just sit on your ass in a real fight you will get the shit kicked out of you

[@bugsbunny7168]

Yes its boring as hell , like will you pull guard at someone in the street ???

[@cmbjive]

You learn some judo techniques in jiu-jitsu, but I agree with Joe. Learning judo is a huge complement and compliment to jiu-jitsu.

[@iorekby]

That's completely variable to be honest. I travel for work and when I trained BJJ I visited about 25 gyms in that time. The level of takedown skills taught or used in each club was totally variable. Some of them were had okay Judo/Wreslting takedowns. Some of them had zero takedown ability and almost never trained it. In theory I agree with you, old school BJJ had these techniques in them. But with the modern obsession with competitions, and people favouring things like pulling guard, getting a BJJ school that shows you good takedowns can be harder than you think.

[@cmbjive]

@@iorekby I agree. I train at Ares BJJ and it definitely stresses pulling guard, but they do teach some takedown techniques.

[@kinbolluck476]

U GOTTA LEARN PEE BEFORE POO

[@MrCOUNTYCORK]

Iam a judo player most of my life, a throw comes automatically, its dangerous especially on the street when hitting concrete, your skull will get cracked, a brilliant sport for self defense.

[@rz9018]

Just do a rolling morote man. Fatality

[@commentconnoisseur1001]

Brilliant sport for getting a manslaughter charge.

[@thereelwoodman7024]

this is so true. A simple tai otoshi will crack a skull on concrete

[@bene3403]

I do judo for 12 years now and if I throw somebody, I definetely can control if he lands on his head or not.

[@hurricane8886]

@@bene3403 Exactly, just hold the sleeves and the head will not hit the ground after most of the throwes.

[@brysonanthamatten2205]

I practiced judo with my father who learned judo as a shore patrolmen in the navy. But then when I got into the army I was introduced to Brazilian jiu jujitsu and I looked at both styles and their history as I learned them and realized. Both of them can effectively cover the other’s weaknesses in grappling. Because bjj doesn’t have as good stand up grapples and self defense on your feet. But when that fight goes to the ground I feel like judo is not as aggressive as bjj in form so I took what I knew from both and mixed it with the kali and boxing I practiced on my own time. (I am no master I’m more self defense non mma oriented in my training.) and made a style that was fast protective and proactive in focus no matter where I was.

[@DanKoerner]

My dad is a 5th degree black belt in Judo and ran a dojo most of his life. Everyone I ever saw at my dad's dojo was generally huge, but most of the masters were kind of short and small because they have leverage and often rocked the big guys.

[@davidschreck1321]

Judo is so underrated. I only have some Judo training, and I grew up in a bad neighborhood, and was able to completely protect myself in every fight because of it. Judo isn't usually a super violent art, but it is almost always a fight stopper. It ends things really quickly.

[@Samperor]

What do you think cross-training judo with aikido?

[@edge3369]

@@Samperor not worth aikido isnt effective in fights, judo is more a one hit KO on the streets but good throws are hard to get but one hit on concrete is a KO for sure

[@za.monolit]

@@Samperor Aikido is only good if it's the weapons variation. Hand to hand, Aikido is only good for hollywood.

[@Elthenar]

When a fighter makes Judo work, it's a thing of beauty. Those throws just look so slick.

[@Majorhavoktv]

I studied Judo for 4 years and competed in my youth. I enjoyed it a lot and was taught by a 7th Dan black belt named John Panessa at Pacific Judo Academy. My Sensei made learning Judo fun, interactive, and it taught me a lot about discipline, fitness, and mental toughness. It also saved my life once against 2 attackers.

[@FirstLast-tx3yj]

More about the story of the 2 attackers please!! Did you Seoi Nage them on the concrete or what?

[@levedia]

What about pankration you learn to be very fast to clinch.

[@levedia]

Im 45 what should i pick JUDO or Pankration. Im 5'11 225 benching 340lbs. Obviously only interested in self defense and last last but very last resort to use it.

[@Sam-js4sc]

@@levediajudo

[@levedia]

@@Sam-js4sc thanks man.

[@rahjeel]

I did Judo for 5 years back when I was in college. It's an awesome martial art, standing and takedown techniques are more practical and refined than BJJ while it has very limited Newaza techniques. People should definitely train in both to become a complete grappling specialist. Add Boxing to the mix so you can learn to close the distance against striking techniques.

[@wyatth4866]

So ironic, I literally started Judo a month ago and I’ve only taken a few BJJ classes. I may be stating the obvious, but I feel like people who only learn BJJ without Judo are really missing key components of the complete aspect of grappling. Judo is really underrated imo.

[@rogueuniversities6866]

Oh I just saw the misleading video title, I didn't realise they were talking about BJJ since they dropped the 'Brazilian' to confuse people into thinking this video was about real ju-jitsu, not BJJ.

[@mrman2415]

@@rogueuniversities6866 you have a real thing about that, don't you? Just because no one cares about your obsolete martial art

[@rogueuniversities6866]

@@mrman2415 Wrong, you idiot. First off, Japanese (that is, real) jujitsu was very popular. That's exactly why the fraudster creators of BJJ and the fraudulent teachers ever since then tagged into the popularity of jujitsu by calling their new sport "Brazilian Jiu [sic] Jitsu" then intentionally dropped the Brazilian, to trick and confuse people. Many people practice Jujitsu to this day - many judo teachers and judo students practice jujitsu, whereas, conversely, BJJ students are encouraged to do judo (notice how they're not encouraged to do jujitsu, because then they'd find out the truth about BJJ's rip off of a martial art - so they're encouraged to do judo in addition to BJJ, not jujitsu in addition to BJJ). A legitimate martial art: - Has some sort of standardisation, at least amongst a particular style - Doesn't need to tack onto the name of an existing martial art to gain students - Doesn't need to then trick students by intentionally dropping the first word so students think they're practising real jujitsu or watching videos on real jujitsu - Doesn't have cheaters at major competitions (or if they are, they're punished rather than supported with excuses) - Doesn't need to attack other martial arts (aside from those that are fraudulent) - Doesn't make utter nonsense claims such as "80% of fights go to the ground" - Doesn't make false claims (a reason I also do not like BJA judo, as, although it's been deleted now, it long claimed to be the most effective martial art for self-defence at close quarters, which is nonsense as it relies on grips and, like BJJ, has limited techniques (though not as limited as BJJ)) - Doesn't promote itself as a brilliant self-defence art then say "Oh, we were only teaching sport BJJ, you need to learn combat BJJ to defend yourself So stop being sore and just accept that your "art" is a fraud, just judo's groundwork with some modifications.

[@Jordanthecool7]

@@rogueuniversities6866 I guess it’s because most people see jiu jitsu as bjj and sometimes forget about Japanese jiu jitsu

[@rogueuniversities6866]

@@Jordanthecool7 And that would not have happened if the BJJ teachers and fanboys hadn't been intentionally dropping the B to trick people into thinking BJJ is real jujitsu. Watch any judo groundwork - all BJJ is judo's groundwork, modified somewhat. BJJ is a fraud - from the fake statistics ("80 percent of fights go to the ground"), to dropping the B, to ridiculous ways of getting belts.

[@storytime6263]

Learn Judo for self-defense, jujitsu for defense against it, and kickboxing for defense against it. You don't want to be on the ground in a fight or punch someone you could break a hand. But throwing someone COULD end the fight right there on concrete or a hard surface. Judo is the best for self-defense IMO. But you need to know how to defend on the ground.

[@cademiller9351]

BJJ won't help much against judo. Their entire sport is simply judo's groundwork, but they can't prevent or execute the takedowns

[@aaronsavage8018]

Punching someone right won’t break your hand. I believe everyone needs to hit the heavy bag before they try to jaw someone tho lol

[@jamesleaman9139]

30 years of training that started with Judo then boxing in every external altercation Judo has always been the most effective.

[@CHRISTATA92]

Ive ended street fights without throwing a punch just simple judo throws, very effective

[@hadramawut29]

Heh. I bet it wouldnt' work on me.

[@johnathanshakewellesquirei8615]

@@hadramawut29 strongest man in the universe.

[@doot7779]

Blindi are you superior now? A true intellect?

[@ridaahmed5110]

@smelly_meat boss thats why its so dangerous, you might end up seriously injuring someone and that could result in jail time even if you weren't the aggressor

[@zibtihaj3213]

imagine judo plus boxing .....ouucchh

[@Twobarpsi]

Joe "chimp strong" Rogan

[@Dudemanbro1577]

Judo is great! It teaches you to use your opponents momentum and effort against them. The harder they fight, the easier it is to take them down!

[@moonbull3137]

Davíd Melkonian that sounds like aikido

[@bonphone4222]

@@moonbull3137 Aikido does it a lot more, but as a judoka I can tell you it works very well when someone is pushing on you. The first of three elements in a judo throw is kuzushi, off-balancing your opponent. If they are being recklessly aggressive, 1/3 of the throw is already complete.

[@raphaelgracia551]

Yup, you definitely sound like Aïkido... And I'm a big judo guy. In judo, although you try to use your opponent's movement (and strength) at your own advantage, very often you need to use your own speed and strength to throw a guy. And the more you've got, the better. Just see Teddy Riner, he doesn't precisely look like an Aïkido master...

[@iorekby]

Totally disagree. I trained Judo for 6 years and I hate to break up the illusion but the harder someone with even a modicum of Judo experience fights, the harder it is to throw them. Its a painful, exhausting process of grip fighting and grip breaking, of moving someone who is fighting not to be moved. The last thing it is is easy. Unless they are pretty clueless.

[@raphaelgracia551]

@@iorekby You're right. But at some point your opponent will be forced to move, that's when you must be able to take advantage of his movement. But this requires a lot of technique.

[@giggitygoo675]

Joe: imagine carrying a dead guy Andy: yeah. Imagine..

[@Yourdrunkuncledave]

oh sht hha

[@bloodhoundgang1642]

Yeh I was thinking the same thing as he said it..😐

[@joetorres1861]

That is such a good point that many BJJ schools don’t teach or know from a safety perspective. I’m a 1st Dan in Judo and have mid Japanese JJ Dan rank. I was rolling with a blue belt at my BJJ club and I was letting him work. We started standing and he reached across and behind me to grab my belt. I was going to let him throw me but work for it. He switched to a guillotine but didn’t lock it in. I pinned his arm to my chest in case he tightened it. He lost his balance, tightened up the guillotine and tried to throw me with Osoto Gari. I turned as I fell to protect my neck but I was still messed up for 3 weeks. I explained how dangerous of a throw that is but he didn’t seem to care.

[@andyst1903]

I'm so glad he mentioned judo.

[@bincktewinkel5285]

Iv been doing judo for 8 years now and I just got my 1st dan (black belt) and I’m so happy 😃

[@anonymousreviewer169]

What belt level do you think u would be in BJJ out of curiosity?

[@bincktewinkel5285]

Anonymous Reviewer I’m not sure how the belt system works in BJJ but I’m currently only 15 years old and have been promoted to my 1st Dan based on my achievements in international competitions. So I have no idea how to compare judo and BJJ

[@anonymousreviewer169]

Thats quite impressive. If you ever have the time, drop-in at a BJJ gym (usually $25) and take a class. At the end of the class you can roll (randori) and try your luck with a seasoned white belt (1+ year) as well as a blue belt to kind of gauge your newaza abilities. Let me know how it goes. And congrats again!

[@aidandixon6028]

@@anonymousreviewer169 As someone who's been doing BJJ for 3 years, I would probably guess around brown belt by now, if you mean by time spent.

[@bincktewinkel5285]

Anonymous Reviewer thanks! But I live in the Netherlands and BJJ is not really a big sport here and not a lot of people practice it. But I’ll do some research and try and find a good BJJ school

[@dietrich8820]

Thanks Joe! It's great that you are acknowledging the strength of Judo. A lot of people know how BJJ was created and Maeda's hand in its genesis. A lot of people who watch MMA or practice BJJ forget or don't know that Maeda was trained in Judo by the creator of Judo, Kano Jigoro. In the early days of Gracie Jujutsu there was video footage of them performing Judo throws. It really does sadden me that a lot of those throws aren't practiced by a lot or most of the BJJ or MMA gyms. Well at least the ones to which I've practiced.

[@weslawless2386]

As our judo sensei says, "the Earth is a weapon!"

[@Samperor]

Earth: " I am not your weapon!!" lol

[@paultaylor107]

Thank you for this Joe, it is refreshing to here people talk about judo in such a positive light. Over recent years with the few on popularity of BJJ people were very negative about judo. However, I think alot of BJJ athletes are recognising the value and the relationship between the two arts I love so much. The most damage caused to judo was the sport aspect once these systems of combat become a sport with points, and rules they change the system. E.g. ground work in judo was negatively affected when they put time caps on athletes so they were just stood up as a result coaches just taught judoka to turtle long enough for the referees to get board and stand them up. If that's all that happens why coach the ground aspect which causes it to die off. I myself was lucky as my coach loved ground work so we got to do loads of it. I also agree on the coaching advice my experience of judo coaching is a new guy walks into a club, they are given a rough idea of how to breakfall and few basic throws then it's on to sparing (randori). I'm not saying all judo coaches are like that but they are in my experience in the majority. FYI One of the reasons judo players are so strong is a drill they do in groups of 3. Uke (the guy throwing) tori ( the guy being thrown) and 1 more. They would select a throw (let's say a hip throw). The 3rd guy would go on his knees behind the tori and hold onto the tori's belt. So when the uke performs the throw he is doing so with the weight of 2 people. This is just one example of these drills. Thanks again Joe.

[@thesupportingcast6972]

In my Jiu-Jitsu academy, we learn both. Foot sweeps, tosses, and the ground game of Jiu-Jitsu 😁 Our Professor's best friend is a higher belt in Judo. That part of the training, are some of my favorite classes!

[@catsfrommars]

Just a reminder, Helio Gracie got his ass handed to him by Masahiko Kimura

[@RenegadeRanga]

Then tried to live in denial and tried to explain how he actually won or would have at a similar body weight.

[@ashemleibakngambamoirangch5416]

@@RenegadeRanga and then Sakuraba came destroyed his family generation by the same technique Kimura applied.

[@steve7309]

@@ashemleibakngambamoirangch5416 only Renzo and Royler lost by kimura armlock...his family generation ? a lot of misunderstanding of history...

[@christopherostoyic5079]

@@steve7309 he beat the shit out of Royce so bad they threw the towel in.

[@Elthenar]

@@christopherostoyic5079 Kimura himself said he would have lost that fight if they were the same size. Sakuraba was a catch wrestler. Both arts are fantastic, who wins usually depends on the fighter.

[@bentoombs]

I was born with one arm so my parents put me in judo at age 6. Love it. I was at a tournament in Cranbrook Canada and I watched a brown belt get shoulder threw and landed wrong. Broken back.. sad. And it's not we are strong we just know how to use your weight and momentum against you.

[@jasonmyers1002]

I have introduced several people into BJJ/MMA. After a couple of instructional sessions, one person replied, "I know I should always carry my .380 now"... They realized within 20 minutes how vulnerable they actually were... If one is serious about self-defense, they should (in addition to MMA training) always have other options available other than "empty hands". "Empty hands" is the "last resort" option. Oleoresin Capsicum, expandable baton, kubaton, edged weapon, lock in a sock, bike lock, impact device, firearm, etc. should always be available depending on the legality and the situation. "Fights are won by training, planning and preparation." JLM circa '03 Greece.

[@IncredibleMD]

Most fights start on the feet. Learn judo so that, after one fighter goes to the ground, you're still on the feet. Judo was invented to be used against armoured opponents that could withstand strikes all day (because you're not punching through iron and steel), and its still used in very similar fashion in modern army combatives. The original goal of judo was to throw your opponent on the ground and then finish him with a weapon. Back in samurai days, that was a sword, but nowadays soldiers are trained to judo throw people to the ground, disengage, and shoot them. Anyone who says judo is ineffective in a real fight has never been thrown onto pavement and then soccer kicked in the head a few times.

[@bugsbunny7168]

Judo has newaza also !!

[@IncredibleMD]

@@bugsbunny7168 It's good to have them, but better to not have to use them.

[@cainortiz1496]

😂💯

[@tcomizij5062]

That's Jujutsu you're thinking of, aka Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, the predecessor of Judo. Judo was invented in 1882 by Kano, due in large part to Jujutsu's negative reputation at the time which it got from a history of different clubs brutalizing each other with it (afaik, there's other things too), as it's an actual warrior art that includes killing/paralyzing moves, as well as striking as supplement. So you can think about it like Judo was created as a softer sport-version of Jujustu which focused & developed on the throwing aspects of it and removed the more dangerous stuff (as Kano was a visionary, and thought of it as more than a way-to-kill which Jujutsu was), and then from there BJJ focused & developed on the ground-grappling aspects of Judo as Helio Gracie wasn't strong/tall enough to do many of the throws which his brother Carlos could (iirc).

[@IncredibleMD]

​@@tcomizij5062 There really isn't as much difference between the terms as you think.

[@yuriysemenikhin302]

BJJ is essentially a subset of Judo :-D People should really learn the history of their own martial arts ;-)

[@quest4050]

Judo comes from Japanese Jiu-Jitsu. BJJ dudes get so blinded by bullshit.

[@zimelo6957]

@@quest4050 Don't you know Helio disGracie invented ground-fighting cuz he saw that that's where 170% of all fights end up? /s

[@quest4050]

@@zimelo6957 LOL What was I thinking.

[@michaelmyers9817]

Stephen Monroe Primarily father of 80% grappling is catch as catch can wrestling. Even Gracies trained with catch wrestlers and collected techniques from them, puttingthem into their art.

[@BigBrandonMarcel]

BJJ is literally Kosen Judo....🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@rogerwilliams2629]

I started Judo in 67 and retired in 98. Judo doesn't work because of strength, it works because of technique. T takes a very long time to become effective at it, but in a street fight it works very well..foot sweeps in a fight are so overlooked and work so well, as do throws toward opponent's rear as opposed to shoulder and hip throws, which are effective but more dangerous to try because of turning your back to opponent. Glad you mentioned my art.

[@Daniel.Miranda]

Judo is so effective I did it for one year in elementary school and when I was in highschool I would trip my friends who tried to wrestle me with such ease they'd get so pissed.. never done bjj even though I'm Brazilian but after watching UFC back in highschool as well I started sprawling off double legs with a guillotine... I wasn't fending off mma practitioners just regular guys but the point is knowing a little bit of judo and bjj can help you against a regular civilian trying to take you down... Just the basics is enough

[@AikidoApplied]

Did judo and jiujutsu at Roger Gracie Academy in London. Great people. Tachi-waza (stand up technique jj) is much harder and scarier for most people (and remember this has removed atemi -the striking- of jiujutsu). Judo is more well rounded as a base for a martial artist. BJJ will refine your ne-waza (ground technique). Judo will teach ne-waza too (and how to apply pressure rather than just be passive/soft) and stand up (throwing AND ukemi) and make your body supple, hard and crazy strong. Plus it refines your balance to a razor's edge. My Judo teacher showed quickly how to do judo without a dou-gi on. Easier than some would have you believe. Do both under the best teacher you can find. That's my experience. Find yours.

[@darelbvcr687]

muay thai + taekwando kicks + boxing strikes + jiujitsu and judo is killing combo

[@frank2357]

Not to mention the uzi

[@chuckstevens2672]

I should probably learn a martial art. Listening to Joe and these guys talk about it makes it seem really cool.

[@timmyadams234]

Save up and find a club/gym/dojo near you once the mass extinction is over.

[@morganfrazer158]

@W. George I've done BJJ for 8 years. I did two months of Judo and I pretty much had to stop. Every week i had a new or worsened back injury

[@MewtwoShadow]

@W. George I raise you wrestling and injury within 1 month! lol

[@escobarrich8753]

MewtwoShadow nah judo is way worse on the body

[@ricksterdrummer2170]

W. George What kind of fucked up teachers did you guys have?? You’re not supposed to spar aggressively until you know to fall without getting hurt.

[@jasonclarke8616]

After watching the fist ufc in the mid 90's I knew i had to change my traditional jiu-jitsu. I was already skeptical about the effectiveness of traditional jiu-jitsu because all my friends were brawlers and I knew 90% of my crap would not work. I dropped a load of curriculum, removed katas etc. everything that was useless. I combined wrestling as my friends and I were all high school wrestlers. I changed our striking from wado-kai karate to kick boxing. Our sparing was full contact with takedowns etc. I did this so we could compete with BJJ. We would enter the BJJ tournaments and go to all the seminars we could in Ontario. We trained with GSP, Couture Henderson, etc. These guys would do training seminars to make money in the late 90's etc. There was a grate awakening in the 90's. Traditional martial arts were highly ineffective. The one thing that was effective from our traditional jiu-jitsu was our throws. Similar to judo. From what I was taught, Japanese jiu-jitsu (traditional) was the original art. BJJ and Judo came from this.

[@Jessehenri]

As a long time judo black belt and a recent jiu-jitsu black belt, I can attest to the fact that training in judo markedly augments my jiu-jitsu. Strength is important in both martial arts. However, there is no substitute for good technique and taking the time to become proficient in the fundamentals. Please remember that both competitive jiu-jitsu and competitive judo are sports; players competing for medals, trophies, social recognition, etc.. Unfortunately, many of my jiu-jitsu and judo brothers/sisters naively or mistakenly conclude that the techniques are preparing them for combat off the tatami. This is a conclusion that has resulted in many players not performing well in street fights or in self defense confrontations. We are creatures of habit. Compliment your sports judo and sports jiu-jitsu w/ learning compatible self defense techniques. Peace and stay safe. [P.S. Mr. Rogan.....Stay Amazing].

[@blessed37]

Judo is amazing. I found it on accident at a community college. It's probably the strongest I ever felt aside from working on a farm for a summer. Judo and skateboarding taught me how to fall and not break anything.

[@JohnSmith-mo2sv]

"your jiu jitsu is probably different than mine" lmfao. coooooorrect, always

[@10jerrarr85]

judos takedowns is on a different level

[@coolman54061]

@Thelondonbadger same logic i use when i have my glock. it always stops a violent person and can kill. 2nd amendment🇺🇸

[@almightyfonics]

Sean Boss Lmao it’s people like you that make other countries look at Americans as morons

[@justathought7421]

@@coolman54061 lol typical American. 2nd amendment is a joke when more then half the country is dense and shouldn't be able to access guns.

[@coolman54061]

@@justathought7421 yea well when theres a shooting in my area every other month with someone with an illegally obtained firearm I'm glad i have my legal one to protect me and my lil boy

[@coolman54061]

@GeminiJets37 That started off so inspiring but as I read it I think I lost more and more brain cells as I went thru

[@AruwakEM]

White belts represent

[@chucklemuchuckle2170]

Lol turd

[@MJ617]

3 stripez

[@DoseOfReality308]

2 stripe reporting in.

[@dennisparker1363]

I got 3 too. :)

[@Dudemanbro1577]

White/yellow! Whatta noob!!!

[@theylive2749]

Judo is way more practical on the street. Just a hip throw can end a fight and it’s better than choking someone or punching from a legal standpoint.

[@blackmetalcumbia]

but you as to be close to the enemy and he can punch you . the more practical arts for streeth fight are: boxing ( because the problem with kicking is balance and in the street 1 second you are off balance you are dead) judo/ wrestling for fast throws, and finally jiu jitsu but jiu jitsu not work against multiples attackers

[@k9m42]

@@blackmetalcumbia Judo takes out boxing on the street easy and quick...Not even close.

[@iorekby]

@@k9m42 Dude that is just nonsense. This is simply more "grappling > everything else" ideology. I trained Judo for 6 years. A guy came in to class one day with a shiner, Turns out he got in to a row with a guy at a party and the guy clocked him before my buddy could react. And this guy was a 1st kyu at the time and had been doing Judo for a few years. Judo didn't help him from getting punched, Judo is great but its nowhere near as simple as saying "Judo beats boxing". It's not rock-paper-scissors. It's far more complicated than that.

[@humann5682]

@@natekelly770 Let me rephrase that: National level Judo champion and wrestler against not-very-good journeyman boxer.. Seriously, Savage was not a serious boxer. He lost *46* fights as a boxer. He was a tomato can. Skillwise it was like sending a 4th kyu Judo player in to fight a world ranked pro boxer. And like I said you are ignoring the fact Labell wrestled too, he did not rely just on Judo. It's not a great example for a bunch of reasons. You would need a pure Judoka vs a pure boxer, who are at the same skill level.

[@12shah74]

@@natekelly770 muay thai vs judo?

[@Maadcapminis]

I'm a Jujitsu white belt and a Judo brown belt. Just started training Jujitsu a few weeks ago. I'd sparred with some of the guys before but our Sensei has a saying. Judo is for Defending yourself. Jujitsu is for when when Judo won't work.

[@AlexxxPerales]

This is why Jake the Snake'sDDT was such a devastating finisher

[@stalinmaharajh9405]

i remember he did that to Ricky the Dragon Steamboat on concrete outside the ring back in the day. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p33deYeMmZaEmdU

[@machomarty8238]

I tried it in a fight back in HS lol. We were both pretty light weight, so it ended up being more of a suplex. It was also on grass. Thank God.

[@sodaandcookies1]

i just commented something like that and was surprised i had to go this far to find another ddt reference haha

[@wildberry752]

Jon Moxley PARADIGM SHIFT

[@princeflurry]

Speaking of guillotines Kevin Lee got caught in one in his last fight against Charles Oliveira.

[@cjangelo7517]

And Oliviera only used one leg to control his hips the other was caught on a half guard scenario, in between Lee's legs. That shit was TIIGHTTT

[@illuzeweb]

No way gtfo really?

[@williamkjellstrand5280]

@@illuzeweb yeah man, charles is a beast

[@judocc]

I have to agree with Joe. I have always said and believed the same thing. When I started Judo back in the early 60's (I'm 72 now). We also practiced Hawaiian JuJitsu (was original AJJI but then morphed into Kodendan and eventually JuJitsu America under Wally Jay & Willy Cahill). Right from the beginning it was apparent that Judo was needed to make JuJitsu useful. Back in the day, Jujitsu was not done at 100% where people would go all out. It was more akin to Karate of the day with no contact sparring/tourneys. Judo was 100% all the time either going for throws and if it went to the mat, control holds, armbars or choke holds, as well as learning escapes from the latter. I was taught under Willy Cahill (a great instructor and person) where I attained the rank of Godan in both arts. When I opened my own school back in the 80's, I always made sure my students where competent in Judo while learning self defense (I had also studied Praying Mantis Kung Fu from Brendan Lei and Kenpo from the Castro Brothers, but Judo was always my love and "go to" art.

[@danielb5171]

@charli c- Thats awesome. Mr. Cahill is a great man and pioneer of judo/ju-jitsu. The training i got at his academy was invaluable. Awesome place to train👍

[@judocc]

@@danielb5171 Someone from Willy's. That's cool. I was his first white belt to Shodan in Judo. He had other Black Belts but they had already been promoted by his father. We had great times there and we did things that they could never do now due to the litigious society we live in. He was like a father to me and I am still occasionally in touch with him and his daughter Karen. I have had many of my students tell me that I am a great instructor. I always correct them and tell them I am a good instructor, I learned from a great instructor. You take care. You learned from the best!!

[@Punkeloco]

It is very helpful when Jiujitsu schools that don't teach throws have students or black belts that know either Judo or Wrestling. I used to train at Marcelo Garcia at Dallas and we had guys who knew wrestling so we had Wednesday take down classes taught by a student and it helped us a lot at least not to be afraid of take downs and throws.

[@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人]

All fights start standing. Shuaijiao, Sumo and Inner Mongolian Bök are standing jacket wrestling styles and they throw you on the ground and remain standing. Mongolian Bök allows hand touching ground and Judo allows ground fighting. All these five styles were used by hereditary military classes. The term Judo was used by some Kito Ryu samurai in the 1700s and Kano Jigoro adopted it.

[@alterego157]

Not true. Ainu invented all "Japanase" martial arts and styles, including samurais.

[@Tdot185]

Joe your forgetting about Khabib who is a black belt in Judo (along with being an international master of sports in sambo which originated from Judo and is very close in style to Judo). He regularly uses trips and throws and also has great balance

[@theredninja2817]

Judonknow who you’re messing with vato

[@raymondosceola2765]

Robert Liberty lol your an idiot that was funny asf 😂

[@Blunt44]

Maybe, maybe not. But i know your mom

[@theredninja2817]

David Smith She’s dead

[@raymondosceola2765]

Robert Liberty lol it’s wild you can’t pretend like folks don’t laugh an call there friends dumb after a good joke ...🤷🏽‍♂️ get out more

[@raymondosceola2765]

David Smith same shit

[@theseeker6097]

Judo is definitely one of the best martial art disciplines to study. Not just throwing for fighting but how to fall. The amount of times I have slipped on ice falling on my back and not having my head Crack on pavement thankfully Judo teaches you how to fall on pavement . Joe, is right Judo is a must martial art to learn. I have finished street fights in seconds with Judo throws. I would also say wrestling is another art to study you go up against a good wrestler no that's scary!

[@heavymeddle28]

I actually done judo between 1981-1986 and Wtf tae kwon do 1981-2000 and on those rare occasions when I've had no option but to defend myself judo has been good to me. Very good. I'm not saying that I'm always walking away winning but I felt its been a good way of getting to know how to manipulate the opponents balance and get him down and control the "crazy swinging". It's like learning to ride a bicycle. It never really goes away like today at 48... Couldn't use taekwondo at all. But judo still sits there somehow

[@TrumonicTrav]

Real talk, of you want to learn judo, learn traditional judo instead of competition judo. 4-8 moves vs 30+ in same time frame. If you want to move like Mifune, traditional judo . You want that red/white or white/red belt. Don't stop doing it. One of the greatest honors I ever head was meeting several of these masters. So effortless yet gentle. Watch videos of Mifune doing moves. AMAZING

[@uhtredofbebbanburg5493]

Sport Judo is probably better than traditional Judo for overall fighting ability. Traditional arts tend to focus a lot on not pressure testing skills, whereas in sport Judo, even though there aren't leg attacks (its only small weakness as a grappling art imo), you can train at a 100% intensity a wide range of grappling skills against fully resisting opponents

[@Justanotherdude-kk4ix]

I definitely plan on doing judo on the side while training jiu jitsu.

[@mammadyusubov]

I trained with a Judo trainer years ago. We were learning traditional Judo with decent amount of joint locks, submission techniques, even some strikes combined with throw technique. Even the olympic Judo is something I'd prefer to be good at in a street engagement than BJJ. Traditional Jututsu though has decent throw techniques. Naturally, as Judo originated from the traditional JJ.

[@jjbarea5810]

Those olympians are like gods 😂

[@moefinesse9878]

Rogan dismisses the effectiveness judo in the UFC. When Rogan commentated Khabib's fight with Connor, Khabib executed a harai goshi, yet Rogan counted that as just a takedown. Joe that was no gi judo

[@mfc5808]

Fedor has some of the prettiest judo throws I’ve seen in MMA

[@Lanedar68]

Couldn’t agree more on the cross training aspect! Boxing, judo, jujitsu, karate, wrestling, kali, firearms, etc. find one as your base and then go find things that complement what you’re after.

[@geoffreytasker2097]

You searched "judo in mma" after this. I know you did...

[@gofish7388]

It's so rare that I'm starting to doubt how practical it is.

[@ethanbell5508]

Go Fish just look at khabib. Most of his take downs come from judo sweeps and throws. He also has a very strong clinch because of judo. He is black belt like his father. He uses his wrestling Throws when behind a target and his wrestling to keep them on the ground

[@great4061]

@@gofish7388 People said this already but khabib is a good example of the fight theory behind judo, the "around the world" concept

[@philosopher2king]

I’ve been doing no-gi grappling for many years and BJJ for the last two, and started doing judo literally three weeks ago, after watching Andrew Wiltse’s video on street fight advice. I was also tired of sitting down the moment I realized somebody had takedown skills. Funny enough, I was able to take down two or three of my peeps at BJJ class, after only three weeks of judo. Highly recommended!

[@mattfraser3688]

Going to the ground in a street fight is suicide. Your not fighting one person, your fighting them and their friends. Stay on your feet. Toss them to the ground and be prepared to fight more than one person.

[@koalanectar9382]

It's a pronounced "you're"; a simple contraction of the words "you" and "are"

[@mattfraser3688]

Koala Nectar it’s pronounced “jack” and “ass”. Your welcome.

[@koalanectar9382]

@@mattfraser3688 Nicely crafted, touche. Except you still spelled you're wrong!

[@mattfraser3688]

Koala Nectar I am. But you still know what I mean

[@mjay6245]

@@pederpedersson8951 The people who don't care or don't know tend to be the ones who failed English in highschool. You should know the difference if you're old enough to be on the internet..JS. I usually don't correct people and be an asshole though.

[@artinhjollder4779]

For 30 years of practicing Judo and Kyokushin Karate and working as a certified coach, security contractor and tournament fighter, I've never been 'forced' to unsheathe my Kyokushin katana as Judo's versatility always resolves the matter much faster and maybe less bloody.

[@Samperor]

I guess kyokushin karate was not needed to learn then. If you start over will you choose a different second art?

[@ep7077]

To Joe's point, people forget that you' won't typically be wearing only a pair of shorts when you get into an altercation. Learning to grip up, tie someone up, and later trip or throw them is very valuable - 90% of the time if someone attacks you, you'll be in at least a t-shirt, jeans, etc but could be in a winter jacket, scarf etc.

[@miopera40]

Judo is the gentle way. I remember back in the day in Cuba with all those crazy good boxers & wrestlers in the hood or everywhere you turn, you don't want to punch or wrestle a 250lb bully who knows how to box or wrestle, you give him a good ipon with care and they become friends afterwards when their crew starts laughting. Well at least that was back in the day when there was some respect, today you'll probably get backstabbed or kicked by 10 guys. Jiujitsu is for damaging fast or getting out of trouble fast, you can't compete jiujitsu or you will be developing the wrong reflexes. Jiujitsu with the rudimentary blades part is pretty damaging too. Keep in mind all the above becomes obsolete when you have a gun.

[@Austinkungfuacademy]

Unfortunately, the only way to practice it these days is with a grappling dummy. COVID-19 has changed everything.

[@adamk1112]

Austin Kung Fu Academy shut the fuck up Austin

[@adamk1112]

GeminiJets37 shut the fuck up Jet

[@name-rg4kw]

@GeminiJets37 The virus is fake af. Anybody with covid symptoms that died was labled as a corona death. Public officals even admitted it on tv.

[@diggoryjones7837]

Judo is practised pretty close to full tilt for most of the session which does help build strength and stamina. Being flipped vertically above the head of someone smaller than you is a great reminder not to go around getting into fights. Some of the most awesome 'human weapon' judoka I train with appear easy pray to an untrained eye. You're just lucky they are nice people with great self discipline partly developed through the culture of learning, friendship and respect fostered in the sport, otherwise you might not have woken up to realise and learn from your error. Lastly, you make an error in judo, your partner will teach you how to avoid it, even if that means you learn to defeat them. Many jujitsu players like to roll with judoka. It's always fun having a novice judoka that can put up a challenge on the ground. There's a lot we can learn from each other.

[@jonathanw1019]

The most important aspect of judo is learning how to take a fall. Not just break fall, but when you get thrown enough that in the split second of air time of the throw, you become aware of your body's position as it travels through the air, and you instinctually correct to put yourself in the proper position. I've always likened it to Spider sense, or the gymnastics "air awareness" that gymnasts develop. It's fascinating because that time frame expands and it feels like time slows down for a moment. You also get the variety, from trips to summersaults to being thrown off someone's shoulders after a Kata Garuma. So much resides on protecting yourself and your head.

[@sowelldon]

Back in the day when I was a bodyguard I had a jujitsu guy that trained us in submissionholds and defense. He was 5'10 190lbs strong as hell. I'm 6'8 at the time 320lbs and he taught me so much. People go for my knees or lower body head on. Your going to have a severely damaged face and choked out. Jujitsu is great!

[@shakoiatenhawithacrossjaco9051]

If I could start over, I’d learn judo or greco Roman before freestyle wrestling. The hip positioning, and footwork you learn will bring you far

[@Jaxjag904]

Joe “try picking up a dead body” Rogan

[@emac6961]

Thanks for showing Judo some love 🙏🏼✊🏽

[@JordanReedYT]

When I was in Kempo, my Sensei taught a Judo based self defense class on the weekends. I only took the Judo for 2 months but that’s the reason I arm-bared everyone who tried to bully me!

[@arneilson4450]

GSP also mixed a lot of Judo throws in with his wrestling. Look at his fights with Matt Hughes, he had some great Judo throws in there. In one of his most recent training videos he also shows sumi gaeshi as a technique he likes.

[@Amero2323]

Andre the Giant was the master of handling an attacker on his back in the standing position

[@chidori455]

When I started judo, I noticed my and other white belts's knees took the biggest beating. All the rotational and twisting movements - even for the basic throws like ippon seoi nage - required a degree of connective tissue strength I just didn't have, even from years of squats and deadlifts.

[@frankm404]

I had the same issues when I started judo as well. Knees, back, and hips were all hurting. I had to do a lot of mobility work and it all went away.

[@Menaceblue3]

My left knee is secretly crying reading your comments

[@moonknight4659]

I WOULD OF NEVER GUESSED THAT IT WOULD TAKE A TOLL ON YOUR KNEES LIKE THAT

[@FartKnight777]

Tore my lcl getting thrown

[@vgman94]

Frank Mabry What kind of mobility work can held strengthen your knees for Judo? My right knee is really bad with this and I’d like to prevent the need for knee surgery in the future...

[@willcee4966]

Me: i want to start jujitsu Joe: Some dude was training and got put in a guillotine and now he’s paralyzed. Me: 💀

[@blademaster9575]

Dont drive cars either

[@DuffMcDraw]

Find a place where you can drill techniques at half speed. Avoid any gyms where they aren’t willing to take it slow, especially for beginners.

[@willcee4966]

Blade Master95 the more dangerous things you add to your life the higher chances you have of getting injured by one of them. Just sayin. And jujitsu would be more of a hobby for me. Never riding in a car is almost impossible.

[@trevorrovert3103]

I usually only see BJJ guys do this to wrestlers.

[@ThiagoCT9]

@@willcee4966 go for Judo then, it’s more fun anyway.

[@DezDav4]

5:01 Khabib is a good example of this.

[@njp4340]

A lot of people ignore the fact that Royce Gracie was a 3rd dan black belt in Judo back in early UFC. Thats more Judo than many instructors. Early UFC wasnt BJJ vs other arts. It was MMA vs single art martial artists. BJJ is better than I used to think, but it's a very good add on to a more useful art like boxing or wrestling.

[@edpiv2233]

Judo is amazing on the street

[@titomish5914]

Is he?? I’ve never met that man say hello to him please

[@ΝικόλαςΑναγνωστόπουλος-δ6ξ]

@@titomish5914 bruh

[@AxeKick80]

Tito Mish *bruh*

[@dukemosby5552]

As long as you are decent with your hands, then yes. Otherwise you get punched in the face.

[@iorekby]

@@titomish5914 This sir, is exactly the level of response that comments like this deserve :)

[@Nemesis_T_Type]

Random Fun Fact: The youngest Judo champion and two time world Judo champion for women's 48 kg looks like a supermodel. Her name is Daria Bilodid.

[@Matt-zl4nr]

Dude In this case it is a fact though.

[@Nemesis_T_Type]

@Dude Well for a 19 year old girl she already has done modelling for Japanese brands and a commercial for Mitsubishi. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2iUYpaMqNKSmNk&

[@davidkymdell452]

I wouldn't say no...

nah im a black belt and only use 5 judo throws i think all bjj guys should know some good fundamental wrestling being able to scramble onto a single and work to top after purple i started to wrestle and greatly helped me

[@giorgosandrigiannakis1375]

Khabib usually uses 3-4 moves when he wrestles.

[@Khendriix]

Started Jiu Jitsu & Judo two weeks ago, absolutely love it.

[@patrickdooley3886]

I think Joe sees a lot more judo than he realizes. He’s thinking of judo purely as hip tosses and forward throws, when most UFC judo comes as foot sweeps and other ashi waza. When Nate finally took Conor down on their second fight, it was a seasai. There’s a lot of inside trips, foot blocking techniques and kosoto gake I’ve seen.

[@LiamNI]

Gotta love Judo. Brown belt here, going for my black in a couple of months. I still have a lot of love for Karo Paresien (probably spelled wrong, but I can't be arsed checking). So underrated....