Juggz the Podcast Episode 21: Trench Crusade is COOL?

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[@sjZhyren]

The artist for Trench Crusade is Mike Franchina. The whole franchise started as his passion project he was working on in the evenings and then eventually expanded to miniatures made from his art. Incredible world and such a fun art style to do some fanarts in. I don't usually want to do any fanart as such but this universe just feels incredibly free form to explore presently.

[@JuggzthePodcast]

We knew this and very talented

[@lynnhavard3684]

Louise mentioning Robs’ slapchop video in her better painter video finally made me watch it and try slapchop. And holy shit. I fucking love it.

[@Andy__H]

@@lynnhavard3684 it’s game changing. I’m so glad RGS shared his invention. 😉👍

[@JuggzthePodcast]

Rob is a genius.

[@Andy__H]

@ never doubted it. 😉

[@lynnhavard3684]

@@JuggzthePodcast All of you guys are, but especially Rob in this instance.

[@jamfjord]

This lore is deep and full of plot twists

[@chrishandy9172]

Peachy, who loves his motorbike, not picturing himself as a White Scar amazes me.

[@kwest9747]

He is an IF Supremecy Force Biker!

[@PeachyTips]

@@kwest9747😂😂😂

[@PeachyTips]

It’s because I’m a genestealer cult atalan jackal 😂

[@scannerbarkly]

Fun to see more people starting to talk about Trench Crusade. It has a great community, embraces all manner of kitbashing, and you can just download the rules for free. What's not to love?

[@DamBrooks]

I’m a backer and just need to make sure that they get their money 😂

[@syd4890]

The theme/setting?😅 not my cup a tea unfortunately

[@deffkon_c1242]

Great channel you have Scanner absolutely brilliant buddy ❤

[@CornishMoose]

​@@syd4890same, unfortunately.

[@gekalskip]

peach makes a good point; i think it's cheesey the germans are the bad guys again ...

[@yourpaljoni]

This is easily the most fun miniatures podcast I've ever heard! You guys are clearly such great pals and it's so nice to listen to :)

[@asuranshadow9491]

Nothing weird about your voice, Louise, it sounds great and always enthusiastic. Surprised and happy at how well received Trench Crusade has been, it's also nice to be able to get double use out of some future mini projects and have a reason to raid and paint old board game minis that never got love.

[@BritBudtender]

Louise sounds amazing. Love that accent and all her mannerisms! Keep being you!!

[@volkarve]

Juggz new slogan is Louise's "One eye on the streets. One eye on the treats."

[@JuggzthePodcast]

Beat poetry

[@jamesmaybrick2001]

Hmm. For the average chaos fan of Juggs. One eye on the streets, one on the treats and the other on the teats.

[@jhnlk]

@@jamesmaybrick2001 Side step the actual rhyme for One eye on the streets, one eye on the Juggz.

[@thomasalbion1834]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Louise must be protected from all harm. Watching her tear up over the very thought of Sylvanian families is the most wholesome thing ever. Bless you, Louise.

[@JuggzthePodcast]

She's lovely

[@Mr._A685]

You're all angels. Rob's a comedic genius and timing is perfect. I love Louise's voice And Peachy is a babe

[@JuggzthePodcast]

My friend Nathan is alot funnier than me

[@Mr._A685]

@JuggzthePodcast don't get me started on that handsome bastard!

[@Birdmanesp92]

​@@JuggzthePodcastbring Nathan on as a guest!

[@elainegallagher6015]

I love Trench Crusade, it feels like the 80s again with Brian Bolland Nemesis the Warlock art in 2000AD, proper transgressive stuff but now available to kitbash and 3D print. Reminds me of 40k Rogue Trader a bit, but more full-on, less shonky. Gundams, I bought a couple last year when Peachy and MS Paints were building them - you should get him on - lovely to build, but they feel like Airfix kits, once they're built what then. Painting 40k or Moonstone or Death May Die minis, I get to use them in a board game after

[@thoughtengine]

I tend to base my gunpla and use them for gaming. Rather like most of my Airfix kits.

[@MatchaMakesThings]

Wild that Peachy isn't at 40k yet. A+ Content

[@Genesee.Billiam]

I agree with Rob 100%, Cities of Sigmar would be a better entry faction than Stormcasts.

[@spilbobaggins]

pain to paint though

[@Genesee.Billiam]

@ that’s true but if they made them a starter army they’d have the opportunity to make slightly simpler, easier to build and paint, units that could act as canvasses for painters that want to freehand additional detail but would otherwise be more beginner friendly.

[@piotrjeske4599]

Seen to many start it or "elves", and drop out of the hobby after one unit.

[@kookieslayer]

My favorite quote of Tuomo during an interview with Tabletop Time was along the lines of "Some games that want to go more mainstream are sanding down their edges to appeal to mass market. We decided to go all out on the edgy". They are basically replacing the Grimdark of 40K and bringing it back in an even more Grimdark heavy metal way.

[@JuggzthePodcast]

Grimsharp

[@karstedt9987]

You are right Rob, Bandai was smart to seek an audience through Louise. While I probably won't make a major effort, I was manipulated into wanting to try out a kit from her video. They should probably be reaching out to Lego influencers too... there is some definite resonance there. Also, thank you so much for this 53:54, and of course for getting rid of the chewing haters. Louise, love your voice, but you are really throwing shade at Peachy for lending it to everyone but him. Orphan Timmy has a date with a werewolf attack.

[@ernstbergerbrent]

Decision fatigue is a real thing. My wife is a physician and has trouble making decisions after work (when it comes to day to day things like what do you want for dinner?). That was an awesome story about the father & son at that tournament. My son just got back into the hobby. It's been fun playing and painting with him and his friends.

[@JuggzthePodcast]

Hope you can have many many happy years hobbying together

[@kristoff7049]

Peachy… I love you for having considered the toilet cleaning schedule for the emperor 😂

[@TheDrunkenOrk]

I've just paused my first rewatch of Sharpe in years (just finished Sharpes Eagle) to watch this.................. no pressure 😊

[@davidmarksberry5970]

A friend who is a video game guy played space marine 2 and is now all in.. he started reading the horus hersey series and is building a sororitas army.

[@vendrad]

Swapped over to the other video to listen to your voice acting. You did great!! 1:03:09

[@BigTiBu]

Dan Carlin shout out whoop! Hardcore History is so, so good. Everyone should listen to all of them Trench Crusade looks amazing too, the Sultanate look class

[@christophersteeves9435]

Louise, I've not been watching for long so you can't say that I've gotten used to you, but you sound lovely and you did an excellent job in Wes' video. Looking forward to the other VA opportunities

[@brandonloves40k]

LOUISE THANK YOU FOR BEING SO WONDERFUL! Your excitement about hobbying makes me excited to hobby too! (Rob and Peachy are cool too I guess❤)

[@Birdmanesp92]

In regards to Voice Acting. All my friends are animators and they tell me I should do Voice Acting. I went to voice acting coach and her review was that I "have a voice for instructional videos". Don't give up. You have a lively voice

[@PewpewFiah]

I was so surprised to hear you in Weshammer, and I was SUPER happy to hear the change. I don’t think you sounded terrible at all, hearing your own doubts here, I think you maybe would’ve benefitted from hearing the ‘final’ video and allowing you to re-record whatever bits of your pieces of it so that YOU were happy with it too. As that second pass can make the world of change. But I wouldn’t knock yourself over it. I loved the video, and I’m genuinely looking forward to see how you grow with the other channel!

[@BigGalty]

My favourite day of the week is now whenever Rob drops some content ❤

[@nurglematthew893]

Wtf, this is so amazing every time. Keep supporting Juggz even if the Creditsz at the end never change 🎉❤

[@bunionsandcabbage6764]

I watched the Weshammer video when it came out and you sounded great, Louise!

[@goblinho81]

Had a really shit day, not even watched this yet and it has immediately cheered me up :) I appreciate you guys

[@goblinho81]

Also Gundam models are on my Christmas list

[@gregoryjordan1740]

Hope tomorrow is better for you. I feel the same way. Hang in there buddy.

[@goblinho81]

@gregoryjordan1740 all good man, I'm know other folks have worse things going on in thier lives. Got to experience the rough days to appreciate the good one. Hope you have a good one =)

[@Zachfive]

Little late to finishing this episode, but I am a bit shocked that anyone has a problem with how Louise sounds. You have a lovely voice and a charming accent. Also never stop doing Peasant Timmy. ❤

[@Yavinprints]

Rob, the amount of people who have said "saw lousies video, bought a gundam" to me is absolutely insane! 10/10 move on bandai's part.

[@JuggzthePodcast]

That's awesome!! I hung out with Louise and bought no gundam haha

[@Jez-Hunt]

There's a great interview with the original Trench Crusade artist Mike Franchina on Jordan Sorcery, he used to work for GW too, he's an interesting fella, well worth a watch

[@Banjocow]

3 things 1. I love Juggz 2. I need a chair 3. Did I say I love you already? 😂😂

[@kwest9747]

Spacemarine section: Louise is a Fiddler on the Woof.

[@marlonmounce8313]

I was vaguely aware of gundam before, but after Louise’s video I started watching some other gundam videos, looking at models online, etc. I haven’t purchased anything yet, but I’m definitely a good ways into their sales funnel thanks to Louise and Peachy 😂

[@dominikheinrici5228]

Louise, don't be silly, you have a great voice. Also, your bubbly cheerfulness is contagious. Sometimes, when I have a bad day, I just listen to one of your shows!

[@saritor]

Of course you couldn't leave for Comic-Con at 6am! Peach has barely gone to bed by then!

[@PeachyTips]

😂😂😂 true facts lol

[@jameswilson6328]

awesome video guys, keep up the great work 🙂

[@prlostinshadows]

Im obsessed with Trench Crusade currently- its enough to bring me back to table top gaming after a long hiatus

[@freeRadioArmageddon]

Louise as Marge Simpson when she said stormcast are neat 😅

[@jonscott6459]

Trench Crusade is the first war game in a long time where I love literally every faction. It’s going to be so hard to decide what to collect.

[@the_uggh]

That's why I bought them all

[@tinyfishhobby3138]

I had the same issue when I watched the Tabletop Time video showing them all off.

[@joshuamclean9417]

Been on trench crusade in the very begining, good to see it being talked about

[@alexhovey6614]

Trench Juggz

[@edwoolley2985]

Wonderful podcast as ever. The jordan sorcery interview on trench crusade is also ace.

[@DarrenBonenberg]

Rob, I want you to know I caught your sprue number bit right away. I laughed immediately. Love you guys.

[@thomasrobertson4213]

Currently fevered and ill, and this is exactly the stuff I need to get me through!

[@Archaon6044]

22:50 the standard 60mm dreadnought base isn't 60mm, it's 63.5 to 64mm. I know this because I 3d printed some fancy bases for my AdMech army (Kataphron battle servitors are on "60's"), and was very confused when the printed bases didn't match the in-box plain bases for size

[@JuggzthePodcast]

How wild is that!? Feel like everything is a lie

[@kangthecarnivore]

Rob, there are Games you can use the Gundam kits for. Gamma Wolves is one example where people do a lot of custom mecha using the kits.

[@thesqueaze6509]

World Eater therapy is just primal screaming for 8 hours

[@ronanjohnson9718]

They're just releasing their inhibitions

[@joebomberger]

I guess if the bases are slightly smaller than they should be people don’t need to be too worried about how much space a movement tray will add. 22:50

[@jhnlk]

I subscribe to the f-ing first time logic. Well done for trying voice acting! I think you should do more. Louise sounds great. Rob sounds great. Peachy sounds great.

[@DamBrooks]

I’m on the Trench Crusade campaign trail now 😊

[@landonpaints]

This entire time I thought that "Sylvanian Families" was what Louise called her Vampire Counts armies. I didn't realize that they are only called "Calico Critters" in the USA. This makes so much more sense. *sighs in American*

[@PeachyTips]

🤣😂

[@beemo1579]

IMO - Louise making the correct point. GW gets new customers through lore via games and tv/shorts. Influencer programs are about driving fomo from current customers before they fall out of the hobby due to price exhaustion or life progression.

[@sillylung]

1:00:00 i find it extremely hard to believe that anyone finds her voice weird outside of the British accent. This podcast is part of my sleepy time playlist up there with lutein, the amber king, and baldemort.

[@visualbasicimp]

fell in love with the iron sultanate, backed immediately. can't wait until its out!

[@crabCoffee]

The thing that really appeals to me about Trench Crusade, is that it takes what I like about 40k, I.e the grim dark, horror, and turns it up to 11. For obvious reasons (mass appeal selling to children) GW is moving toward a more palatable aesthetic. Trench Crusade feels like it slips into the void left behind. Really exited for it!

[@martinjrgensen8234]

TC is very cool. I don’t Kickstart anymore, so will be looking forward to if I still have an interest in it, next year

[@proteinstar]

Stls and minis will be for sale most likely by Spring 2025,

[@richardmarriott-smith9517]

Great video. Love you guys. I agree regarding going to Cons. They can be crazy busy. I went to Rose City ComicCon in Portland, Oregon last year and it was so busy…but also awesome! Also, Louise, you have a lovely, warm Scottish accent. Anyone would be fortunate to have you voice their character. Regarding the Black Death, it occurred in the mid 1300’s, not the 1500’s, and wiped out one third of the population of Europe, not 90%. Trench Crusade seems to be quite heavily influenced by Rackham Confrontation, the early version of which also had amazing miniatures.

[@Bond-An-Everchosen]

I think that 4th edition has done a great job of making stormcast "cool", if not simply more appealing. Putting the silver color scheme front and center along with new sculpts that are much more grimdark really sold me on finally starting the faction.

[@davroshalfbeard8368]

Yes juggz on for painting got a mag daylight lamp no excuse now for not painting I bad light 😂

[@ChrisHandley_dr_ether]

If I was to compare Trench Crusade to anything, I would look more towards Vampire the Masquerade and in particular Vampire the Dark Ages, since those games present alternative histories (rather than alternative timelines like Trench Crusade) but is just as heavily routed in religious/ecclesiastical horror.

[@js9272]

Love the Dan Carlin callout, his stuff is amazing. Also highly recommend them.

[@BlizzardofKnives]

For what it's worth, I found Louise's voice in the Weshammer vid a pleasant suprise.

[@JuggzthePodcast]

She's great

[@Vostroyev]

Gold Stormcast appear to be the Ultramarines of Age of Sigmar, definitely loved the recent release showcasing other colours.

[@SpectreAtYourFeast]

Nurgle is also based off of “Nergal”; a Mesopotamian god of the Babylonian era, associated with war, death and disease. 1:28:40

[@RealJahzir]

So I have thought about getting a Gundam kit. But after Louise's video I am getting one for me for Christmas.

[@confusedandbefuddled]

Had never considered gundam before but you guys have got me interested now.

[@eriqone9245]

Peachy presuming hell are the baddies 😅😭

[@PeachyTips]

Hahaha

[@nurglematthew893]

I hear Nurgle Matthew met Napoleon Dynamite and Pedro high-fived his girl....

[@philtombershead]

I've certainly been influenced by you lot to try Gundams. I got one after y'all were bangin' on about them and I LOVED it, so I now have more!

[@miketaylor1548]

Rob I know what you mean about painting , if you don't imagine in pictures you could have aphantasia it's pretty common really and does impact on artistic ability . when I paint I don't know how something will look till I've got the colour on it .

[@gamergrub9588]

My hope is GW see the success of Trench Crusade and release just an updated Mordheim book 😂 in hardback.

[@ryanearley8748]

TC taught me a lesson. The setting should work for me, but it’s too extreme. I need a layer of piss-take or a smear of punk rock as a foothold.

[@joesturn7740]

For me it's the fact that it wants to be set in our history but seems deeply unfamiliar with world history?

[@Mukkanzie]

I think all warhammer units should have additional, optional ‘flavour rules/adjustments’ included in their warscrolls which you and your opponent can discuss using beforehand. It would allow game designers to play with more creative game mechanics without worrying about offsetting the whole competitive meta

[@Mensch777]

1:30:50 really refreshing to hear from someone who knows about history and how fucked up WW 1 was (as in "everybody was the bad guy")

[@JuggzthePodcast]

Peach knows history stuff

[@SirSlade18]

41:00 You gotta look at it differently. It's not that Gundam kits are so much better organized, easy to follow and sanely laid out, it's that GW kits all come with a bonus little game of "Where's Wally?" for every single bit you need to clip off. That's added value!

[@PeachyTips]

😂😂😂 nice positive spin

[@CMF03]

Gundam always been in my periphary but you all talking about it has definitely got me more interested. Like Rob though I'm not super into models that are solely for display.

[@BeatonArmaments]

JUGGZ in the Trenches

[@mikewicked.x]

It's a mixed bag with the SCE being the poster boys of AOS - versus COS. Lore wise, I agree that it should be COS, but they are a right pain in the arse to paint as a beginner - which is where SCE make more sense in that role.

[@timfrank1262]

Louise, as an American I think you sound weird because you’re British, but no worse than any other Brit. That said, I think your voice is great and Juggz has become a staple of my morning commute due in large part to your infectious enthusiasm and humor.

[@donchaiminster1989]

You should check out the 08th MS-Team Gundam series. It’s focused more on the grunt level ground troops, like if you made a series about the Astra Militarum. One of my very favorite series in the Universal Century timeline.

[@ABemis]

Yeah we stopped going into MCM on Saturdays, they over-sell it every time now and it's ridiculously crowded, to the extent that I think it's unsafe. When we go we go on Friday, enjoy a Saturday in London, then go on Sunday.

[@JuggzthePodcast]

Very sensible

[@jheu781]

I can't believe you brought childhood flash backs of Sylvanian Families. I went into the Rabbit hole and started looking at Maple Town videos.

[@oneofmanyrobs4255]

Literally having a look at Gundam kits as Rob asked the question...damn, I've been influenced

[@Ruinstad694]

Trench Crusade feels like Grim Dark Diesel Punk.

[@innerdarksidegaming7415]

I was influenced, Bought my first Gundam a couple days ago and I'm blown away, they're SO smart

[@wardruchii]

Sometimes the sprue numbers aren't even correct... or they have changed and that part is no longer even separate. Those are the sprues we know. 😅 Great episode as always. 😊

[@blankblank7665]

Louise does not have a weird voice. I will die on that hill.

[@AndrewMcColl]

GW being a no-show at Comic Con sounds familiar. For many years they had absolutely no presence at Gen Con, and when they did turn up the first time it was with an end cap booth that was tables piled high with GW Direct white boxes and Black Library books. It was a bit of a shock considering how much other companies made the most of the event.

[@collinl5023]

Reading a bit into the lore, I wouldn't call the Heretic Legions the baddies, in that everyone in Trench Crusade tends to suck, but there are aspects of the devils forces that are more humane ironically enough.

[@buckyohare9993]

I love you Rob for saying 40 isn't old seeing as I have just turned so. If I ever come to Nottingham I'll bring fudge - but what flavour?

[@JuggzthePodcast]

Just basic bitch normal

[@buckyohare9993]

@ nowt wrong with that it is the best

[@Sysero_]

Watched the WesHammer ep (great job Louise) because I was curious about the mic quality. You guys use the Shure mics, but the Rode NTG-3B Shotgun Microphone might be the one WesHammer uses; I have one for work and really like it--though some feel it adds too much bass to one's voice.

[@mackpackable]

This is my second favourite kind of JUGGZ.

[@DamBrooks]

You also like man boobs?

[@Birdmanesp92]

The thing is there are a few Wargames built around High Grade/Real Grade Gundam in which you can play them like Battletech where you have custom load outs that are reflect your custom HG model

[@saritor]

Warmahordes had the "Play like you've got a pair" Page 5 stuff in the rulebook for the first two editions.

[@Taxidermied-jk7pt]

Way too many comments to read through and see if this has already been covered, but elated to hear you all talk about Trench Crusade. As to Rob's comment about Middle Eastern cultures being depicted as the good faction, check out Infinity. Haqqislam has for years been the 'good guys' of the setting. A humanitarian leaning faction concerned more with the continued existence and evolution of mankind than their personal societal power within the Human Sphere. Also no doggos were harmed during the sculpting of the Anchorite Shrine. That's a goat :P

[@MikeKing-z5q]

If you read comics you might want to read David Barbour and Tim Vigil's Gunfighters IN Hell and Simon Bisley and Michael Mendheim's The Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse.These books make me think of Trench Crusade.

[@terrencemiltner1005]

Hearing about all the Gundam makes me want to find a handful of 3-4 inch Gundams and see which rules might play with them like Samurai Robots Battle Royale by Ganesha Games

[@matthewbull3688]

Damn Peachy and Louise... now I've ordered 3 Gundam kits!

[@JuggzthePodcast]

Eoah

[@PeachyTips]

Yaaaaay! 🙌