The UNTOLD Story of Shalamar

They weren’t even supposed to be a real group but, that would all change when their very first song made waves on the dance, R&B and pop charts. After a couple of early member changes, the classic lineup of Shalamar would go on to experience several years of major success. Then, conflicts began to arise between the members and their record label as well as among the members themselves that would ruin everything.
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[@beaniegee5129]

Shalamar has timeless classic hits!!

[@allaboutprimetime]

their so underrated

[@colly7963]

One of my favourite groups. ❤

[@beaniegee5129]

A Night to Remember is a timeless Cookout classic hit

[@danavixen6274]

Or it could be a wedding 💒 reception anthem! I love that song! Really smooth when Jeffrey moonwalked to this at Top of the Pops! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@nesoldier74]

Yes. loved it when the girlfriends danced to it at Toni and Todd’s wedding. So upset that they removed the song from the dvds. I grew up listening to Shalamar.

[@MrLionelg33]

Better than mary j. blige version.

[@delorescannon455]

Yes lord

[@ИгорьАгафонов-т7к]

Yep!

[@AlanaGurl]

“A night to remember “ and “For the lover in you” are forever my favorite r&b songs. Great video!

[@danavixen6274]

Rest in peace, Don Cornelius. 😔🙏🏾❤️🕊️Shalamar were/are LEGENDARY! Jody, Jeffrey and Howard are LEGENDS who are gifted to this day! Love their music! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@beaniegee5129]

Shalamar's A Night to Remember has been sampled and covered by Mary J. Blige, Mase, Kris Kross, just to name a few

[@beaniegee5129]

Last year was the 35th anniversary of Jody Watley's self-titled debut album

[@errolthomas9426]

My best Shalamar joints are Take That To The Bank, The Second Time Around(12" version), Right In The Socket, Make That Move, A Night To Remember, and Over & Over

[@dawnsmart8283]

I love Over and Over!

[@mothom323]

I forgot about Make That Move

[@nicolesherman8974]

I’m excited for this video! Don Cornelius really was the goat for creating groups from Soul Train. Both Jeffrey Daniels and Jody Watley were dancers on Soul Train before Shalamar. I think it’s time to give Jody Watley her flowers. An unsung pop star that is greatly under appreciated 🌹🌹.

[@danavixen6274]

Still loving the BEAUTIFUL Jody! So glad she won a Best New Artist Grammy in '88!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Shalamar-TV]

Its Jeffrey Daniel ....not Jeffrey Daniels

[@drwhatson]

Cornelius set up the label - but didn't "create" the group. Simon Soussan and UK DJ Ian Dewhirst came up with the recording 'Uptown Festival' and also the name. All of this was widely documented at the time in UK's Soul magazines.

[@RodneyPlayer-q8c]

I think you're right about giving Jody her flowers. She probably would have agreed to do a reunion with the group if her experience hadn't been so negative with Howard and others.

[@jerronwesley4473]

And one fact about Jody is she was a choreographer for Ms Aretha Franklin who encouraged her to sing ! The Queen of Soul saw Jody’s potential as a singer so no one can question her vocal abilities.

[@beaniegee5129]

Happy belated birthday Jody Watley!!

[@firouz256]

The Grammy winning Jody Watley once was living in the pop Olymp with with Madonna, MJ, Janet and Prince! She is one of the most innovative, unsung, underrated and fashionable and biggest stars in the world. The first to wear high fashion in pop mainstream (Gaultier and Westwood since the late 70ies! and the iconic cone bra in 1983 in "Where The Boys Are" and again in 1987 on the cover of "Don't you want me") The first to Vogue and whaack in pop mainstream (Still A Thrill) The first to catwalk in a video (Real Love) The first to have a cover on a fashion magazines (Spur) The first to work with future film directors on her videos (David Fincher for "Most Of All") The first to mix rap and pop in pop mainstream (with Rakim) No Jody Watley = No Rihanna, Amerie, Beyonce! She needs her own video!

[@sarahsmithfield8874]

Right…… Jody Watley needs her flowers 💕💯💯💯

[@kennethcooper4767]

Madonna stole her style

[@corneliuswashington-gp1we]

....David Fincher also directed Real Love....

[@firouz256]

@@corneliuswashington-gp1we I know!

[@Biprov]

Not a single lie told. And her newer music from the 2000s onward is FIRE!

[@thegoldenseatlife]

Love Shalamar! Jody Watley is my GIRL!! love her, and played her first album on repeat daily, especially in college. I loved her fashion...classic music!

[@AquariusSoul]

Jody is beautiful! Their time as a group spawned classics that are still played to this day. Juicy Pop, thanks for posting that Jody Watley letter link. She served piping-hot tea and receipts!! I stand with her. She deserves respect and her flowers too.

[@mynameisstacey6217]

Thank you Jody, Jeffrey and Howard for the hits ❤

[@beaniegee5129]

Next year will be the 35th anniversary of Jody Watley's second solo album Larger Than Life

[@thebrownbaldy]

What I really learned from this is that Michael Jackson "borrowed" the moonwalk from Shalamar. Another lesson learned is that anything on KZbin "goes missing" if it spills the tea on any drama too 😂. BUT I'm gonna keep remembering the hits Shalamar put out.

[@00sbabyoldschoolspirit80]

😂😂😂😂... I wonder what's the real story how Michael started doing the moonwalk.Because there's so many different stories and so many people have claimed to have taught him.First with Jeffery saying Michael asked him to teach him.Then Michael chambers said Michael asked him along with some other break dancers to teach him.Then a couple of years ago in bobby brown's book he claims he taught him.

[@jaye501]

he didn't get it from shalomar... he got it from jeffery daniels... and that's not a "story"... it's the truth....

[@jaye501]

@@00sbabyoldschoolspirit80 michael got it from jeffery daniels... and that's not a "story"... it's the truth....

[@shaylah2725]

guna make this a night to rememberrrrr 🙌🏾💙 that bass is one of the best 💯

[@feleciachance8987]

Jeffery is underrated with those dance moves.

[@jayfriday9485]

Jeffrey, Jody, and Howard were my favourite lineup (admittedly the one I knew of). so proud of their success in the uk 🇬🇧’make that move’, ‘second time around’, ‘there it is’, ‘a night to remember’, I can make you feel good’ and ‘friends’ are my favourites 💜

[@ytallowskids2seedepravityb219]

Jodie Watly is so gorgeous! And Night to Remember is a CLASSIC cut

[@ИгорьАгафонов-т7к]

Обожаю Джоди Уотли! 😊❤

[@calebdouglas7622]

Jeffrey Daniel the original Moonwalker.

[@MrLionelg33]

Before michael jackson did it

[@ИгорьАгафонов-т7к]

Так Джеффри и был хореографом Джексона 😅.

[@nijiajohnson8189]

This channel only gets better and better

[@brownparkproductions3488]

“Bl0win’ like Shalamar in ‘81…” -Ghostface K!lla, Wu-Tang Clan’s “Triumph” Shalamar has so many hits. Jody Watley is an underrated legend.

[@rightknowledgeman]

Rolling Stone magazine called them one of the best sounding groups of all time. Shout out to Leon Sylvers for giving them the high powered production to make them elite😎

[@MrBlaq]

Shalamar is in my daily rotation

[@coreycooksey1668]

They need a movie!

[@cinnamonspice4389]

One of my favorite groups of all time.

[@johnnyestrada6993]

Over and Over is such an underrated song of theirs.

[@jasonfield7825]

To date as a solo artist, Jody Watley has 6 Billboard Hot 100 Top Ten Singles, 13 Number 1 Dance Singles, 2 R&B Number 1's, 15 Top 40 Singles. Scoreboard

[@timothykangethe7700]

A Group that had the Midas Touch to Musical Hits. Sincerely hope they can bury the hatchet for good...🤝 Positive Energy ⛮ to Ya'll 🎇 🎇 🎇

[@smokeem5893]

I do remember that series Jody did about the unsung episode. She really cleared up a lot of things. I'm still a big fan of Shalamar maybe one day the original group will unite.

[@55hivealive3]

My favorites by them are "Dancing in the Sheets" and the brilliant "Second Time Around" so many high quality dance tracks, not just the ones that received radio play

[@TheRetroWoman80]

Shalamar is classic music stuff! And I don't blame Jody for doing her own thing and maintaining her stance of not wanting to reconcile with HH. A year or two ago, I watched a YT video of him asking for forgiveness regarding the past strife between the two of them. Well, sometimes the damage done is so great there is never any going back.

[@MCharlerySmith]

I've seen Jody troll Shalamar's social media too. I think she just needs to let go of some stuff; the beef is 40 years old now.

[@TheRetroWoman80]

@@MCharlerySmith I've seen it too. Guess everybody just can't simply "let go", as you say🤷🏽 yet some artists who have had long time rifts with each other in many other groups have been known to "let go" and feign camaraderie at reunion performances simply for the paper. The industry is something else!!

[@christinewomack8999]

They was young, inexperience and just full of their themselves, but that who did what to who is plan childish. No body from the group was superstars, just because won a 1 Grammy is no big deal Howard has a Grammy too so what! Tried of this group. You are not together any more, stop talking about it!

[@TheLemon333]

At the end of the video it says thet reunited for a tour in Europe. Sounds like they made up after his apology.

[@InglewoodsFinest71]

@@TheLemon333 There is a Shalamar that been touring overseas Shalamar since 2005 look they videos up the female is the daughter that owns the Solar label her name is Carolyn Griffey,Miss Jody still solo her you tube channel is Jody Watley

[@RichardBrown-fw5iy]

The Dance that Jeffrey Daniel did which was the back slash better known as the Moon Walk….during the 1970’s Pop lockers dancers young blacks groups were doing this dance long before Daniel…Daniel was the first to put it on TV he later showed MJ how to do it with Poppin…Which MJ incorporated into his dance act……This is not cap I witnessed these dances first hand from the pop lockers……I was one of them

[@cleftheart1969]

Night to remember and second time around are my favorite glad they solved their issues too much energy to carry all those years IJS

[@lolafairchild88]

Get ready! Tonight! Gonna make this a night to remember ✨️! I love this channel. Ya'll always start my day off right 🩷!

[@robertjaime6808]

Shalamar fans are probably wondering how come Jody doesn’t put her differences to the side and reunite with Jeffery & Howard and go back on tour as Shalamar and make that $$$$$$ while everyone still can! Well, it ain’t gonna happen cause Jody despises Howard Hewett & that’s because Howard was very rude & disrespectful towards her, while Jeffery Daniels, her former boyfriend , didn’t do or say anything to Howard, and after a while Jeffery would sometimes take part in it also, so Jody was taking the abuse from both sides. After awhile Jody realized there was not gonna be any reprecussions against Howard cause he was the front man/ the voice of Shalamar and the records were selling cause of him, that’s when she started to distance herself from the guys and later walking away from Shalamar and never looking back. Howard doesn’t deny it, his excuses we’re; we were young and I was immature back then! And all these years, us Shalamar fans we never knew what was the real truth behind the split, both Howard & Jeffery had their own story and it was always the same excuses, money and Jody leaving cause she wanted to do something else! But like they say, there’s always 2 sides to each story and some where in the middle is the truth! You did the right thing Jody by just walking away and not looking back, that’s called dignity, good for you girl……

[@mikeurias770]

It's sort of bittersweet to learn that there was some "tension" going on there between these talented people. Their music really inspired me towards other R&B artists as I grew up in the 70s and 80s. This style really shaped my mind in my belief that music is really universal. And their ballads helped to shape my heart and in what I have come to believe love is, both friendship and romance. I prey that God shines on them for all of the happiness that I experienced from their beautiful voices and faces.

[@aliceinchainz3003]

i dont know why jodi reminds me from thelma from goodtimes lol she just does.

[@bobthebarber777]

One of my favourites on vinyl!! 🙏🏻❤️

[@JeremiahSpeaks]

Hey, why did you change the name to Juicy Pop? I like it just curious

[@JuicyPopEntertainment]

Just wanted something more catchy and rolled off the tongue easier. 😉

[@JeremiahSpeaks]

@@JuicyPopEntertainment I see. I like it. Happy Black History Month my sister 😊

[@taureanmay7480]

@@JuicyPopEntertainment good.

[@THEREALHONeE733]

A night to remember is definitely my top favorite ❤

[@ZKH6969]

Wow, the things you learn from such videos. Eye opener with Jeffrey’s dance move,backslide. Great stuff.

[@beaniegee5129]

Gotta love these stories so much

[@alexandergrande]

i’ve been getting into jody recently so this is perfect timing!😊

[@ИгорьАгафонов-т7к]

😂😅

[@Nina525]

My Mom loved them.💜💜💜💜

[@frankzito8653]

This is fantastic! I've been a fan of both Shalamar and Jody's forever. I never understood some of the backstory. But I'm happy that all involved are still doing their thing......and doing it very well.

[@knockshinnoch1950]

They were the hottest R&B/soul/dance group in the UK for a couple of years. They could do no wrong. Stepping away from the traditional R&B outfits with everyone in the same suit and embracing the New Wave aesthetic meant that more UK kids could identify with the band. Pity the egos, petty jealousy and bad management ripping them off was the final straw just at the height of their career- they had a couple of good years left in them.

[@Avrusr3948]

Pls make a video about jody watley!

[@fender1000100]

Amazing soul group. They never got the respect they deserved. Some of their records are amazing. I OWE YOU ONE SECOND TIME AROUND NIGHT TO REMEMBER I CAN MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD Are as good as any music to come out of the soul RnB Cannon. As good as any music PERIOD.

[@MacXpert74]

Never knew much about the background of this group. I do like several of their early 80s songs. The one I like the most is "I can make you feel good".

[@abiola33]

Thank you for another entertaining and timely upload! 💙

[@pawdaw]

I love Shalamar and have so many great memories of their music. There's been a lot of acrimony and blame shifting through the years. I wish there could be forgiveness and letting go of the past.....doesn't look like it's happening any time soon. Such a shame.

[@justmarguax9207]

Never knew these details. Another great one!! Love this chanel.

[@ortizmusic7115]

That SOLAR sound from 79 to 82 was incredible, all ther acts had hits, and the production was copied from other labels, but the sound died in mid 80s. Today most of those hits are remixed millions of times. Jody's voice is the stamp of that time, like Diana Ross for Motown.

[@generalinformation3507]

I Didn't know that Carrie Lucas was dick griffey's wife. She had some slamming songs on solar also, Show me where you're coming from and a remake of hello stranger. Their in house producer was Leon sylvers So he was the one who came up with that solar sound🎤🎤🔥

[@TheRetroWoman80]

Oh yes, very lovely voice she had. Her Disco hit I Gotta Keep On Dancin' rocks too.

[@ronzh9646]

Also Leon’s kids had a group called the Sylvers. I love their music. Hotline is one of my favorites.

[@generalinformation3507]

@@ronzh9646 Leon was part of that group, that was him and his brothers and sisters. They were trying to find a family group to go against the Jackson 5. Also when Leon was with solar he was part of a group called dynasty, Their songs sounded like shalamar

[@La-wr5dn]

@ronzh9646 Not his kids, his siblings and he was a part of the Sylvers as well.

[@78Sista]

Loved Jeffrey Daniels 'fro. It wasn't the same Jody and Jeffrey left the group 😉

[@Shalamar-TV]

Its Jeffrey Daniel ....not Jeffrey Daniels

[@JSustain]

I loved Jody Watley. She was perfect in my eyes.

[@rodx.8723]

I was absolutely in LOVE with Jody Watley! She was my girlfriend and later we got married.....she just didn't know about it.

[@thecloud9effect765]

LOL

[@GoofyFlan]

WhOO! 'Let's find the time for love', is the JAM.

[@Shadowbannddiscourse]

Love shalamar I grew up off their music I didn't know the stuff went down though

[@martymart42]

What happened to the guy that Charlie Murphy was talkin about on the Chappelle show? Micki Free

[@martymart42]

I made comment before the end.lol

[@ericaem75]

I came to see if someone else knew about that epic basketball game!

[@jaylene.turner6524]

He’s still touring as a solo artist, and occasionally makes appearances with Shalamar(Jeffrey,Howard,and Carolyn.)

[@brianmaxei8898]

We will a And aways love Jodi Whatley amazing singer amazing voice Brian from St Louis mo

[@nataliemscrzysxycoolharris]

SOOOOOUL TRAIN 🚆!! Jody & Jeffrey were my faves. I loved watching them dance. I really like Shalamar too! They still have the cookout jams. When Jody went solo was when I really emulated her dance moves. #HASTALAVISTABABY

[@sarahthomas2506]

I grew up on this group! Cookouts yes! The soundtrack! Second Time Around and Night to Remember! I still jam off these songs! Songs of my life!! There was a lot of drama behind the scenes as well!!😻😻😻😻

[@redmambafungs1294]

Love and business usually doesn’t work out

[@scottbakanumba1heathen313]

One of my favorite groups.

[@InfectiousGroovePodcast]

Shalamar is a group I didn't even know about until I heard a song on one of those K-Tell compilation records in the mid 80s. They were the only artist I hadn't heard of on that album. I loved the song and picked up a full album.

[@thinktank0218]

My dream is this. Leaders of the new school. One and last time together. Commodores with Lionel Richie one last time or one last tour and Shalamar a of them one last time and I'm done

[@EricBK88]

Thank you for introducing me to Shalamar.

[@lucasjames572]

My favorite all-time group. Why the turmoil when you have such success? Whatever name they would’ve had their talent would have carried them regardless.

[@beaniegee5129]

Besides Babyface, Shalamar's This is for the Lover in You, rapper A+ sampled that song for his song All I See in 1996

[@sandraandrews9907]

Don't forget LL Cool J rapped on Babyface's song. 🎶🎤🎶

[@caligirl10]

I still listen to “All I See”. This comment shocked me lol Not to many people remember A+.

[@TheHerbsMCJay74]

I can make you feel good is in my top 5 favourite songs ever

[@mys3682]

Y'all must've been reading my mind.

[@interwebtubes]

A really nice piece, It definitely covers everything, Peace and prayers go out to everyone

[@LilRocker2005]

"The Look" is my favorite Shalamar album!

[@nijiajohnson8189]

Can you do one for VV Brown

[@Elwrt455]

Jody! Jody! Jody! She is very down-to-earth and a living legend.

[@meyerj75]

Shalamar will always be known for what they did onstage, not offstage.

[@jaylene.turner6524]

Jody was the sound of Shalamar, and she’s still having a great solo career.

[@michaelfrazia4569]

thanks for this...love this stuff

[@roccosophie6498]

They all need to get back together. Their fans are still around and would be very, happy.😊

[@jacey714]

Love Shalamar!

[@HeartBreakHigh]

Whooop! Shalamar are ace! 🙌🏾 💚💚💚💚 💃🏾 🕺🏽

[@NellieKAdaba]

👍🏿👍🏿

[@roughrider2023]

Thank you that was awsome!

[@aliceinchainz3003]

shalamar and rick james were my 2 all time favs

[@PichaDisMedia]

Jody Watley released a new video regarding lies that are being told by the current shalamar group.

[@elaineblake1059]

Love y'all Shalamar❤❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯🙌🏼🙏🏼

[@AprilRoxStudios]

Great video. Thanks!

[@dafuk303]

Backslide! Mind Blown!

[@furrymonkeything]

Sad that there was so much discord with my favourite group, it seems to have started when the group was not given their proper royalties. Typical of the time. Howard's voice truly made the sound but the look, style and dance move would not be remembered without Jeffrey and Jody who also had a unique harmony with Howard. They made timeless music and deserve their just rewards for their hard work.

[@taureanmay1411]

I miss Shalamar.

[@taureanmay1411]

Nice 👍🙂 group though.

[@taureanmay7480]

Yes.

[@bryana50cents16]

when did yall change the name? i almost unsubscribed cus i thought yt was subscribing me to random channels

[@rethablair6902]

I was Jody Watley in my head😋

[@donnyshoes2766]

//: One of my favorite groups but, everybody has to get along & get paid.

[@loveyu2778]

So sad..We will never see them work together again for one last bow..😢

[@mariastewart8810]

Jody has put out a video that Shalamar should stop saying they've asked her time and time again to rejoin the group. The group's co-creator Dick Griffey decided his daughter Caroline should be a part of the group from 20+ yrs ago

[@Gljin40509]

It`s a shame that money and egos had to get into this...Shalamar and Jodey Wately in particular are incredibly talented singers,writers and performers and I,for one,love their music.I wish they could mend their fences and just make their beautiful music once again.

[@InglewoodsFinest71]

Their fences were mended Shalamar is Shalamar, Jody is Jody Watley no different than Lionel Ritchie not going back to Commodores, Chaka Khan not returning to Rufus only difference is Miss Jody was not the lead singer but prevails as if she was

[@tylermenendez2483]

Love them

[@deejay5102]

Jody Watley is so damn beautiful....