JuinTech Hydraulic Calipers Ebike Brakes

[@CollegeRecruitsNW]

Wait till they break in. I find a drastic difference in smoothness and stopping. I like the screw turn adjust as they wear, very easy. Great review and advice as always.

[@LetArtsLive]

I went 50 miles on my ecotric hammer yesterday. After 31 miles I had three bars left. Sharks cruising probably between 11 and 15 miles an hour. I noticed if you're just cruising it saves a lot of electric. Just like on a car if you just cruise and don't punch the gas. I like the Retro handlebars but long-distance doesn't do your wrists or your arms any good. I need to do a break upgrade or change the pads most likely. The pads are really cheap. I like your channel I really appreciate no ads more than you can imagine

[@AMRonin]

I also have the Juintech, and to my opinion they don't offer that much more braking power... What I did to improve on that is: 1. Replace the discs to 203mm (be advised you will need a "Post Mount Disk Brake Adapter" for the calipers, as they need to be positioned slightly higher; these are very cheap and easy to find). 2. Replace the Juintech's Chinese pads to Shimano (M07Ti), which are 100% direct replacement. These Shimanos are high quality Japanese made pads designed for the XTR series. These two small upgrades will give your brakes an extra "bite" and maybe 20% more braking power with the same amount of lever pull.

[@Subwoofer101]

This was going to be my comment. Larger rotors and better pads. ABSOLUTELY.

[@michaelsprinzeles4022]

Wish I'd read your response before making the same suggestion;)

[@RelaxingWalks]

I doubt the 203s would fit the Radmini 4, right? I'm assuming the pads would be a good idea though.

[@AMRonin]

@@RelaxingWalks Yes they will (I installed them on my Mini4).

[@RelaxingWalks]

@@AMRonin Nice. Would love to see images of the after and the part links if you have time.

[@robertbendell9537]

Origin8 Supercell tires. Great street tires and fine for gravel roads.

[@JamesWindland]

I have the Shimano MT200 on my ebike. The stock rotor size was 160mm, I recently upgraded to 203mm rotors and would say it's about a 20 percent increase in stopping power.

[@adammarcusmoore]

I threw on the 203mm larger rotor and swapped the pads out to a semi-metallic. Super cheap ($30) and definitely better stopping power. Especially in the rain.

[@DemonikCustoms]

I bought some 203mm rotors too...and I got the Extension pieces for my bike...how they working out for you...I yet to install mine

[@JamesWindland]

I did the same, seemed to be the best bang for the buck on my hydraulic Shimanos.

[@alextorresphoto]

Thanks for the honest review!! Looks good!

[@gswilder]

I really like my Juin Tech brakes.. Definitely a big improvement, and well worth it IMO. Mine have gotten better over time.. maybe break in? Its a great compromise solution... not having to completely redo for full hydraulic.

[@Mgpcc67]

I did the same with my Vtuvia ebike SN100 750. Love the brakes

[@theflyingfinn6057]

I just ordered the Juin tech gt-p with 4 piston calipers. Hopefully they will work out ok.

[@Subwoofer101]

Tires: All you really need to know is Maxxis Minion FBF (front) and FBR (rear). More supple, more grip, long lasting, and super confidence inspiring. Once my Kendas wear out a little, that's what I'm doing, tubeless is the plan. These Kendas are just not in the same league. My wife agrees. Had the minions on my Giant Anthem 29er, LOVED THEM. 120 TPI vs 30 TPI will be noticeable. Worth the $99 per tire price, all day long.

[@FreeMTrider]

Compressionless brake cable housing will also make a significant improvement. Jagwire and Origin8 Slick both make them

[@rolandmartens2487]

I have Juintech too. Main 3 advantages over stock mechanic calipers: 1: both sides apply pressure on the brake disk...2: the brake pads have a larger contact surface compared to the stock mechanic...3: on the mechanic, doesn't matter which manufacturer, you loose energy transforming the rotating movement of the caliper lever into the pushing force against the brake disk

[@Hoggdoc1946]

This change is a good because both brakes are active. If you change your front rotors to 203mm (you'll need an adapter for the caliper.). Amazon and other site have both the adapters and rotors for nominal cost. No need to change the rear rotor as there is already enough power to lock the wheel.

[@darcyscott2406]

Just my got Radrover 5 2020 this past Friday, awesome bike and another great video! Very informative, from Northern Vermont.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Enjoy that bike!! Will you be riding in the snow this winter?

[@someone2cool]

Very helpful video, was checking this out after the controller upgrade from Bolton.

[@catspaw3815]

Yep, that's a tricky data set to cogitate on. Also, if you go full hydraulic cable, not only do you lose automatic motor cut-off, you also lose the brake light activation

[@petergarthwaite1938]

I’m also expecting to see my Bolton controller and screen upgrade come in the mail today. I can’t wait to slap that on and try it out.

[@helpaholic]

Love the look of your bike.

[@arlenemartin8894]

Hmm. I'm not sure I would say my tire set up necessarily qualifies as the bullet proof tires you're looking for. I went the same route as a lot of people who mostly rode on the road. Mine has the maxxis hookworms. I added some Mr. Tuffy tire liners in there as well. I've been 300 miles with no problems so far.

[@CitizenCycle925]

I think I want more tread though

[@jasonlittle118]

Right on man, bout time! Now enjoy!!!

[@craigsamborski3794]

Great video Bryan. Nice work on the logo it really pops and looks great on the bike.

[@Subwoofer101]

Another option I just came across is the CST Roly Poly. I know the Maxxis Minions are amazing, but you can get 2 Roly Poly tires for less than a single minion. ($40 or so) CST and Maxxis are integrated brands. Maxxis is higher end, but the CST offer a similar "flavor". Great reviews for a much lower priced tire. I think I'm going to skip the Minions for now, as awesome as they are, and try the CST Roly Polys. Cheap enough to beat the snot out of them, and not be as heartbroken as I would be if I killed a Minion. Still think VERY highly of the Minions, I loved them on my 29er, but I'm liking the idea of the CST's, just for comparison.

[@CitizenCycle925]

looks like the CST 's are all sold out on their webite.

[@Subwoofer101]

@@CitizenCycle925 I saw them on Amazon and a few other bike sites, but now they're all gone! I hope they get more in stock, I was really looking forward to trying them. If not, it's going to be a set of Minions, but I have time. If I see a set of Roly Polys between now and then, I'll definitely grab 'em.

[@rubbertwain]

I ride mostly gravel, sand, dirt trails and mud. My only recommendation for that kind of riding is Maxxis Minion FBR and FBF. For the type of trail seen in the video, I'd go with Origin8 Supercells for speed and traction.

[@catspaw3815]

hey Berrot! bike came friday. it's assembled, charged and rolling!

[@rubbertwain]

@@catspaw3815 Welcome to the club, my feline friend! You're gonna love it. Now get out there and wear that f"×%ing thing out! For cycling clothing, you may want to check out Aerotechdesign.com for American made gear. You made a great selection for keeping fit while keeping it fun. In the future, I want to see some Cats Paw videos of you and the bike. Maybe a cemetery tour? Keep me posted!

[@SMG-lz1zq]

Like your new decals. Love the way my flames look! I put 2 more on. One on each side of the front fender all the way toward the front on the side lips. I saw those tires somewhere, but I'm not sure if they're for the fat tires. I'll email you if I find them. Good review on the brakes too! No high expectations.

[@hollowdog9049]

Yes they stop with less effort but the modulation is the biggest improvement.

[@1971xxtony]

Can’t wait to get mine ..

[@MrKingcj33]

That's so Koooo! And smart! Good job Citizen!

[@charlescox7672]

Great review and video! :) Yeah, unfortunately this is the opinion of most folks who've switched to these (Juintech or XTech) hydraulic calipers - 'Just a little better.' It's quite disappointing because on the surface it sounds like such a good idea. So far I've had no problems with the stock brakes, but I still have all stock controller/motor/battery. I found that with a bit of adjustment, the stock brakes seem to stop me quite well. Small update: I got the Suntour suspension seatpost and have been trying it out - done a couple of 19 - 21-mile rides but my butt still hurts and goes numb after about 10 miles. I want to blame it on the Bikeroo seat, but I'm really not sure that's it...

[@WildBillRidesAgain]

Is the Bikeroo seat spring loaded? I put on s Suntour plus a spring-load wider flater seat ( Schwinn, non-contoured). Somewhat along the lines that looks like what he has on his. Almost feels like I have full suspension now and can ride much longer without my butt wearing out or my teeth jarring out when I hit bumps/potholes. I did need to adjust the preload travel on the Suntour . With the standard spring load setting it was still a little stiff. Of course, everyone's butt mileage will vary. Lol

[@charlescox7672]

@@WildBillRidesAgain Well, I got the nylon spring version of the Bikeroo, not the traditional one with the metal springs, but with the suspension post, I don't think that should make much of a difference. I have no experience with the adjustment of the seatpost, so after installing the stiffer spring (Red one), I tightened the adjuster back to about where it was originally, just to the point of feeling some resistance. I don't really feel much of the bumps while riding, and the seat does bounce up and down a bit, so I think it's probably doing its job. Perhaps it's just a matter of getting used to it, but I now have 229 miles on the rover (20 rides), so...

[@WildBillRidesAgain]

@@charlescox7672 I have about 400 miles but about only 200 miles on the new seat and post. I have the original spring which is the medium. What I did was keep adjusting it by bouncing up and down on it in my garage till it started to bottom out and then just adjusted back a little till it almost bottomed out. I weigh about 180 and that was the best I could get it to utilize its full length of travel and it seems to work better on most potholes. You know you can adjust the tension at/thru the bottom of the post ? 100% better than stock that's for sure . I still have to go up on the pedals over larger bumps though at speed. Keep playing with it till you get it the best you can or get a pillow. LOL. Good luck, and get rid of the quick release otherwise your seat and post might disappear in a heartbeat

[@charlescox7672]

@@WildBillRidesAgain Yeah, I'll keep messing with it for sure. Thanks for the theft advice - will probably get a dedicated cable lock for it :)

[@WildBillRidesAgain]

@@charlescox7672 that's all you can do till you get it adjusted the best you can. As far as the seat post lock, go on Amazon and search. There's a bunch of different seat post lock choices on there that just replace the quick release so at least you won't have to carry a cable lock with you. I just replaced mine with a bolt that has a slotted head on one side and a Teflon nut on the other. Someone will have to carry a screwdriver and a crescent wrench at least to get that off and I don't leave it out of my sight for more than a few minutes anyway. Good luck, there will always more stuff to buy for it.. Lol

[@RelaxingWalks]

It looks like it's the only option for aftermarket brakes for the Rad Power Bikes. I guess I will be buying these soon because the stock brakes on the Radmini 4 are junk. When we add that the motor is 500 watts, not 750 watts, I really don't like Rad anymore. Thanks for the video nonetheless.

[@Tardisius]

I just bought a Bolton 'FoxBat' . My 2018 RadRover is on it's way out =)

[@nightowlnativeflute9496]

The Foxbat is very pricey but by the time you pay for all the upgrades you might as well go for it. But I already own a rad rover, I would have to sell my rad to afford a foxbat would it be worth it? Or should I just upgrade my rad rover 2020

[@sowasism]

I'd love to hear an update on how you feel about these now. In one of your recent videos I thought you'd said they squeak now.

[@CitizenCycle925]

These brakes are still working well. No squeaks with these ones. They are hydraulic calipers but they still have a cable that runs up to the lever. The ones I have that are squeaking are the full hydraulic brakes that have fluid lines.

[@sowasism]

@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for clarification man! Ordered em!

[@boostercontrol100]

Nice!! I definitely need to upgrade mine.

[@clerissonmesquita]

Great job, thank you.

[@evrx3001]

Can you lock up the rear wheel? Did you adjust the brakes with the small adjuster knob so the pads were real close but not touching?

[@Scalpp]

next upgrade - do the tires. those origin8 supercells have a much nicer feel to them. its the only upgrade ive done so far. edit - i actually left this comment before watching the video and then you went and asked for tire recommendations! But yeah get the supercells if you can find them.

[@dougbald4510]

I've been looking at Chaoyang 26×4 fat tires, I tryed a Rad Rover that had them and they performed well

[@DanielLopes-jt8yl]

You branded! You can use that to verify w/IRS upgrades to your transportation as business deduction! Check with CPA. Man that bike is phenomenal! Hey if you want more content try getting the Rad Runner Plus and sweet-in that up. Then after you have it right sell it on line make a profit and pick another bike. Tires? Just ordered the Rad Power Bikes ceramic tires might have to return as they are contorted. Maybe in shipping something was put on top...what ever (FedEx) what ever- not happy.

[@seriouskite]

New brakes are better than old brakes. 34 mph needs braking power, so safety first. Citizen Cycle sticker over the "Rad-make-Over logo. What's original, frame, grips, control bar, tires are on replacement list. ?? I've watched a few videos on tires "puncture prevention" or resistance. Using Tire Slime and Flex Tape, not sure of validity using these products. Injection and liners for backyard hacks like myself might be a Fun test vs. the "super duper" tires you are currently seeking. A lot of Bolton shout outs, was thinking the "Dream Collab." build was on the way. Free Agent remains FREE. I watch every vid, keep 'em coming my brutha! You are inspiring me to at least shoot a few of my riding areas. Ventura, CA. Beach, Ojai Hills and then my secret Sunset session that no one rides. PM me for the reveal...................thoughts: You are creating your own brand, and helping others for FREE, your Logo on the bike only, until your sponsor(s) surface. Peace out, RIDE ON!

[@CitizenCycle925]

Let me know when your videos are ready, I'll watch😁

[@CV-dl3hj]

Another thing that I was considering was motorcycle tires with the extra torque you have your bike should be fine. They cost about the same as a good bike tire but will last fore... Well you know about motorcycle's.

[@stevepadua]

I found some hydraulic calipers for $42 at AMZ...xtech that should replace the tektro mechanical brake calipers. XTech from China and the shipping will take a couple months. but basically just replacing the calipers...I figure it was worth the wait time vs $150.

[@Gloov]

coming from someone not mechanically inclined.... wondering if someone can help. Did the juin caliper replacement on my himiway cruiser, but find out that only 70% of the pads are being used due to the size of the rotor. Don't know if the adapters that came with the brakes would help or if getting a larger rotor, dont know if that would help either. All that being said, the brakes are totally worth it in comparison to the stock mechanical brakes.

[@petergarthwaite1938]

Hey what’s up man! I’ve got a little update on my tire situation. A lot of the fat bike tire out there are great but they are made to be really light. My Jumbo Jim I got for my front tire is awesome and is a total game changer. BUT I ordered one for the back tire and it didn’t last long, because the bikes to heavy for it to be used as a back tire. The original tires that came off it are heavy thick rubber like a motorcycle tire the jumbo Jim is a very very light tire. So I no longer recommend getting them for the rear. I am now looking into other upgrade tires that are more rear specific and can handle more weight.

[@petergarthwaite1938]

I’m looking at the Maxxis Minion FBR for a rear tire. It has more weight to it than the jumbo Jim but it still has 120 TPI. The only problem is I think all these Fatbike tires the good ones at least that I’m looking at are made for fat tire bikes that don’t have all the extra weight of a motor and controller and heavier frame. I was so shocked at how thin and light the tires were compared to the ones that came with the bike. As far as front tires go these guys work great and I have had no problems for the last 50 miles. They are lighter and have way better grip. As for the back tire well at least the jumbo Jim was too thin and light of a tire to be put on the back. I’m going to be trying the Maxxis next it has a higher package weight than the jumbo Jim so I’m hoping it’s a thicker heavier tire. If not gonna have to stick with the Ebike tires they have out now cause nobody I know of is making heavier aftermarket Ebike fat tires.

[@petergarthwaite1938]

On another note the Jumbo Jim didn’t blow out on the back but I did land on a sharp walnut shell that punctured right through it. So maybe if I had the puntcture proof liners the tire would have lasted.

[@dondattaford7608]

Your bike rocks I like the my own saying keep it up there plenty to adapt

[@rickyn1135]

Bigger rotors would help. About $25 each. I watched another KZbinr & both needed for an amazing increase in braking

[@DJJunBuggIQI]

You did it!!!! Woohoo!!!

[@verlingunnels9814]

Where did you get your front fender? Thankyou 😉👍

[@BubbafromSapperton]

There's videos of a guy with a jet-powered motorcycle, THAT's a mod we all want to see next on that bike... 😆

[@tomcruz3774]

Thanks for the video! Just wondering, are the levers easier to squeeze when using these calipers?

[@tommyc06]

Try SWISS STOP E-BIKE break pads .

[@Markismaximis]

Origin 8 supercells or maxxis hookworm for Street. Maxxis minion for off-road.

[@jonb8517]

You mentioned when you swapped out the motor you would do something different. What would that be?

[@713vinh]

Should have went with full hydraulic brakes, they are worlds apart from cable brakes. You can stop in a dime with 1 finger and very little to no maintenance except replacing the pads. I've had mine for 4 years and never needed adjustment but only pad replace.

[@MR_R.o.b.o.t.o]

Hey man i love the videos!!! Why not try two disks on the front? Or a disk on the back with a rim pincher brake too. Or all of it!!! I bought a Humiway and am still waiting for the bike. Mine has the disks not hydrologic,...which thats EXACTLY what i wanted. I dont want to mess with liquids also. But i will try two disks on the front. I am going to maybe do another motor in the front too with a battery under the basket in the back. I am looking for airless tires too. I was looking online for just ruber foam inserts to try.

[@LetArtsLive]

I would think you want the back brakes to be better always t h a n the front. I remember flying over the handlebars on my regular bike not fun.

[@helpaholic]

Congratulations good job. A few suggestions more editing try using storyboards a script might help as well edit 1 minute off this will tighten up and produce more of a snappy energized feel to the overall production.

[@edsanchez2534]

SO SORRY DUDE, BUT ZOOM XTECH Hy brake calipers GOES $20-$60 eBay, Amazon has them also at $49 bucks, also TANNUS armor or Vittoria Air-Liner might be what your looking for tire inserts I have mr TUFFY liners and slime in my new HIMIWAY step thru, ok better luck next time,😃😜😷HAPPY TRAILS!!!

[@DrPhilGood21]

I replaced the fronts and it was amazing. I just couldn't get the rear brakes adjusted right. The rear is either rubbing or only engaging enough to slow the bike down. At this point I don't know what to do except go to a shop, which I hate.

[@weloch]

I had the same problem. Replace the cable and housing with this jagwire.com/products/diy-cable-kits/mountain-pro-brake-kit After that you can slow down your bike with 2 fingers on the lever

[@DrPhilGood21]

@@weloch at that point I should just have the bike shop put full hydraulic brakes on it provided they have the switch for the break light and cutoff for the motor.

[@billwilhite2190]

Is there a difference between stock rotors and the new ones Amazon sells with the new calipers? If you go looking at all the different brake options out there in just Manuel calipers alone, they go into literally, hundreds of dollars.

[@CitizenCycle925]

i didnt get new rotors, just the calipers so not sure if there is a difference in the rotors.

[@DJJunBuggIQI]

Don't forget that you're paying for the convenience of installing them vs. reinstalling an entirely different braking system.

[@hmaster45]

Did the change of calipers to the Bolton/Juin Tech M1 calipers result in any additional excess inner cable length ? I just installed taller handle bars and my cable is about 1/4-1/2 short. I wanted to upgrade calipers and was hoping these would use less cable down on caliper cable adjustment area.

[@fkrhawg]

I have these on order, XOD E BIKE MTB Hydraulic Disc Cut Off Power Brake 2PIN E-Bike Brake Bafang Brake

[@rogerf3622]

I’ve been waiting for this. Thx. Excellent review. Remember you were in essence comparing old brake pads to new pads here. I can’t help but wonder if you were to select a different pad material, would that improve the braking. A different rotor too may affect the braking too. But wow $150 is pretty steep. I think I’d rather spend half the money on a front strobe light when I drive in the street.

[@jayhernandez6812]

Hi, do you any of this to protect your radrover 5 / gps protection, lock, insurance, also electric air pump, if you do please let me know thanks.

[@DYNABIKE1]

Didn't Bolton give You an extra set of New pads ???

[@CitizenCycle925]

There were new pads on the new calipers, but no extra sets..

[@samk6707]

Origin 8 supercell 26×4 got over 8000 miles on them can't wear them out

[@fraserthomson5766]

I did the same for my Engwe, not amazing but night and day compared to the nasty OEM ones. Incidentally, the full hydraulic systems are coming down in price. These calipers only last 2-3 years before they start leaking from what I read. Only 100 bucks on Alibaba so cheap enough, especially if they save you from broken limbs. lol

[@danielkaz6280]

I love the video 👍

[@murfman89]

Any chance you can help? I bought these for my Radrover 2019 and the back caliper keeps hitting/rubbing against my rotor, I've adjusted the screws, reinstalled, added old ones back and both now rub when installed. What did I do wrong?

[@CitizenCycle925]

Not sure without seeing it. You can email me and I can send you back a close up photo of mine if you want.

[@landonferguson7282]

Maybe the brake disc cause the vibration

[@BakiSenshi]

I will get them, when my warranty expires and do upgrades.

[@jaredjc5978]

I love your custom creation ... do mine please 😆

[@juancarlo121798]

Men search on AliExpress ZOOM X-TECH BRAKES is the same thing but 10 times cheaper

[@michaelsprinzeles4022]

Rad makes decent entry level bikes. Yours is no longer entry level. Nice job. If you really want to improve braking, larger rotors and better pads make more sense to me than hydraulics. I'm old school &, unlike most people, prefer mechanical brakes. Those Juintech seem an interesting compromise for people like me. Ride on & enjoy;)

[@Idahobirdhunter53]

👍🏼

[@michaelhorton6166]

About the tire question, perhaps you don't need the toughest tire to avoid flats. Perhaps you need to go tubeless with Stan's sealant. You get a puncture and the sealant leaks out and seals the puncture. Here is a KZbin video that I remembered watching: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYTNZIxpjt2pbq8

[@CV-dl3hj]

Funny you mention tires because I was considering Tannus armor inserts which are available in the fat tire size if you choose 26 in rims 4 in all the way up to 4.8 in. Tannusamerica.com. they also sell airless tires but unfortunately they don't have fat tire size

[@deepatterson1835]

Now you just have to get a bigger crank to get better leverage on your pedaling. a bike that goes that fast should definitely have a bigger crank. Nothing worse than running out of pedal

[@b2626t]

add a air fork, put those calipers on , i also think there worth it

[@SuPRCooPR]

$150.00?! I just did a 4 piston full hydro upgrade on my Rover for less than that, with calipers, lines, levers and the brake sensor. Also the Xtech calipers on Amazon and Ebay go for about $45 and are essentially the same thing as the Juintech.

[@eugeniovazquez7444]

Please post link for 4 piston full hydraulic caliper with brake sensor , Or did you DIY the brakes sensor to your 4 piston caliper ( can’t find it on Amazon or eBay)

[@SuPRCooPR]

@@eugeniovazquez7444 I have a video on my channel with the links. I did have to diy the brake sensor but it’s really easy to do.

[@rubbertwain]

Shooting in the dark here, but couldn't you have bought a a roughly + - $3000 bike and still saved $$$?

[@CollegeRecruitsNW]

No. I am into mine for $1500, $129 for calipers, $260 for new 750 Bafang, and $220 controller and screen upgrade, total $2110

[@rickyn1135]

Big Game bikes has full hydraulics for cheaper

[@gbrldz0]

Vee Tire Co! Beefiest forsure

[@billwilhite2190]

I bought a tire and rim from a guy, it's 26x4. Super light. I'm thinking about tannis insert, whaddya think?

[@billwilhite2190]

Thanks

[@billwilhite2190]

I meant to say Vee tire, on rim.

[@pnoon43]

Bryan here is a link to rad rover way and the guy is putting less knobby tires so may want to check it out to help you with a tire selection - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH-beH6JeM5nhqc

[@cinepost]

Yeah, kinda pricey upgrade...