Julio Cesar Chavez -vs- Edwin Rosario 11/21/87 part 1

[@Kedbuka]

Thanks for posting a clean copy of this fight. It's JCC's best performance and demonstrates his greatness.

[@morancito]

Durán vs Chávez at 135 is the ultimate fantasy fight. People (especially younger people) tend to dismiss Chavez because they only saw him when he was already shot -vs DLH, Whitaker, Randall and Tszyu. But he was a beast south of welterweight. He ENDED careers. Ask Rosario and Taylor. Durán is probably the only lightweight in history against whom I'd place Chavez as an underdog.

[@TheChoice264]

I've never seen a fighter who could defend on the inside as well as Julio Cesar Chavez. Nobody is even close. The concentration that he had in those days was almost surreal. His committment to break down his opponent was inhumane. He was always "in the zone" back then. You couldnt break him. People, when you watch him in this fight, you're seeing one of the very greatest at the top of his game, and for the last time. As great as he was after this, he'd never be this great again. Enjoy it.

[@noetrasvina1759]

This is all very true, Excellent post!

[@sinusbradycardia]

As Angelo Dundee said before Chavez's fight with Taylor, he said "Julio Cesar Chavez is the toughest fighter he has ever seen bar none." Larry Merchant then said you how tough Chavez is that after the first 9 round how Chavez came back. Chavez will always be my favorite fighter, Mike Tyson got me watching boxing. Chavez is the reason I fell in love with the sport. Chavez in his prime embodied everything you would want in a fighter.

[@elreycoliman4352]

mis respetos para los boricuas se los dice un mexicano que adora el box en el ring somos enemigos y fuera buenos amigos viva puerto Rico y mexico lindo y querido.

[@raymonthekid]

La pelea con Rosario es la obra maestra de Chávez. La mejor pelea del mejor Chávez posible, en su cenit, en su "prime", en las 135 libras.

[@TheChoice264]

By the way, how the hell ya been Judas? Always a pleasure seeing you my man. Long live Hands of Stone! Duran is one of the greatest fighters in history P4P and is an even greater man. Hagler,Leonard, and Hearns are lucky they never had to face the man in his prime. But, this is Julio's site brother. When are you gonna give this great man and champion his due? Duran loves Chavez and vise-versa. I love them both. What's up,bro?

[@sinusbradycardia]

This was a fight between two great chins. Rosario showed some heart and chin in this fight too. I would like to say RIP to both Chapo and Camacho.

[@Kedbuka]

There's a great column in this month's issue of The Ring, "The Best I Ever Faced," and Chavez gives props to Rosario. He declared this fight the best performance of his career, and he said Rosario was the hardest puncher he ever faced.

[@ARDANE86]

is this 130 or 135?

[@sinusbradycardia]

Chavez was a three division Champ and held 5 separate world titles during the alphabet soup days. To win his three world titles he had to just train less and less with each fight and it appeared after he hit 140lbs he did. Henry Armstrong simultaneously held 126, 135, 147 and should have held 160 at the same time, but was robbed in a draw against Cefrino Gracia. Hank was a little guy. That is impressive. Even with Tommy Hearns moving from 154 to 175 was and back to 160 was amazing.

[@bballchump11]

Chavez is a monster. Also very underrated defense

[@JMDinamitaMarquez]

That's an excellent point. Chavez-Armstrong is a toss match up. Their would be the greatest in-fighting in that fight.

[@Armando316]

I'm from Puerto Rico, but Chavez really put on a clinic here.

[@marinomandf]

Una pregunta para aquellos conocedores, cuando JC Chávez logra su primer título mundial lo hace ante el "Azabache" Martínez pero siendo séptimo clasificado mundial por el CMB. Cómo es posible que un boxeador que estaba invicto en esos momentos pudiera estar en las listas como séptimo??? Son cosas que yo no entiendo, cómo hacen esas listas??? En qué se basan??? Saludos!!!

[@Kedbuka]

@johnosandra I like the way you started your comment, "I am a boxing expert..." Nicely stated. Pretty funny. And yeah, Chavez was super awesome at his peak. What a machine!

[@judaschongo]

what's up brother! & yes your correct this is Julio's site; both were some tough little scrappers; but Julio was obviously a cut above Rosario R.I.P. good to hear from U 264!

[@engr138]

Chavez was without a doubt one of the few greats of all time.

[@titlemaker]

Chavez best performance with the best app opponent at the time,Rosario fought the wrong fight by staying on the ropes previously he has never done that,but I give this one to MexicoThe Puertorican and Mexican fights are truly the best.

[@TheChoice264]

Robinson is the greatest, but as far as the ratings of the U.S based media outlet's ESPN,Bert Sugar, and Ring magazine's placement of the all-time greats, I couldn't care less. I don't need their opinion or approval when I analyze and evaluate greatness or lack thereof. I know greatness when I see it as I have many years experience in the world of Boxing. Chavez,without question,deserves to be mentioned amongst the very best the sport has produced.

[@luigar1976]

These were fights back then. I've never seen a better body attack than Chavez, in my view the best fighter of all time. A natural. Best in-fighting boxer. Give thiese fights any day over pacquiao or mayweather

[@tiburochako]

A Masterpiece of inside fight.....

[@JesseH76]

Why was Tyson there?

[@simonfrombalby]

The reason Chavez didn't call out Duran was that in 1987 Chavez was a Lightweight and Duran a Middleweight. We don't know how Sanchez would have done v Chavez as Sanchez was a Featherweight, (a brilliant Featherweight, but still smaller).

[@reyguicho]

VIVA MEXICO!!!!!!!

[@Kedbuka]

No one would've crushed Chavez at 135lbs, not even Duran. And like the other poster mentioned, you bring up fights when Chavez was over the hill. Don't forget that Duran had a few poor performances too--he lost to Kirkland Laing for crying out loud! And don't even bring up Vinnie Pazienza...

[@littlebill4877]

Kedbuka jajajaja pazienza was a joke.

[@josemezatorrez]

Mexican Jose luis ramirez who was the first man to defeat him said that Roasario hit harder than Arguello.Chavez success was due to his big heart and rock solid jaw.

[@drepop803]

wow this was a great performance by chavez

[@MrEl7decopas]

His head was made of cement it appeared lol What a chin!! Him and Salvador Sanchez are the greatest Mexican boxers of all time.... Marquez should be a notable mension also lol

[@gordito0279]

I will show this fight to my grandchildren

[@josemezatorrez]

@marinlille Very true.Chavez never wasted many punches and he had a high connect rate.His body attack was vicious too.

[@Kedbuka]

Yes, Armstrong beat great fighters. To wit, he beat Barney Ross to win the welterweight title--Ross himself was a three-division titlist and all-time great. Hank then went down in weight and beat Lou Ambers, a terrific fighter, to win the lightweight title. Armstrong was an amazing fighter, probably the second greatest fighter ever (behind SRR). His opponents read like a who's who of fighters of the era. He was a genuine full-on amazing fighter.

[@TheChoice264]

@canibusnj Floyd Mayweather is primarily an outside fighter/attacker whose primary objective is to defend the frontier. JC was primarily an inside fighter whose primary objective was to penetrate the frontier of his enemy and fight in the trenches, and break their will to resist.Floyd's inside defense consist's of fighting from the philly shell and firing a decoy right to evade and retreat, more than anything else,to get back on the outside where he's most effective.

[@MrEl7decopas]

well my friend showtime has done a lot of bussiness with mexican networks and he was approached by both Showtime and HBO and in a sence this was a pivotal point in his career if he choses HBO he gets more cash and better deals but his people would stop seen his fights and I mean broke poor people in MEXICO not the elites but the lower classes so he chose to stay with showtime and his people saw him fight for free thus his main supporters enjoyed his fighting abilities

[@sinusbradycardia]

Taylor was faster than Armstrong, I meant to say. Also who did Armstrong beat to win his titles. Great fighters?

[@ard56191]

@JeXsXsXe Mike Tyson and Edwin Rosario had the same managers, Bill Cayton and Jimmy Jacobs. That is why Tyson is there in Rosario's corner.

[@TheChoice264]

@sly717 Beristain was correct and I couldnt have said it better myself. I was real happy to see he and Julio get inducted into the Hall of Fame together. Both men are a credit to Mexico,Boxing, and society. Don't sweat it bro. It's good to try to learn from the greats but in doing that, be yourself. Remember, JC's idol was Olivares and Sanchez, but he said he wanted to create his own identity and "make tracks". He learned from them and was still uniquely himself. Be yourself.

[@Fudelan]

I see what you're saying, but i find it impossible to overestimate JCC... He just had that animalistic, jungle, caged-dog intensity like Duran or Dempsey. Like someone else commented here, it was his intangibles that made him.. The things you cant quantify and evaluate. He had the machismo, the oomph, the chutzpah, the brass, the right stuff; whatever you want to call it. He simply just had "it".

[@gordito0279]

@raymonthekid Estoy de acuerdo contigo se podria escribir un libro de esta pelea ,

[@marinlille]

@josemezatorrez there's a reason why Chavez always connected minimally 50% of the punches... In this fight, he connected 61% and Rosario connected 36%... Chavez had highly underrated defense

[@Fudelan]

I'm american and most boxing fans i know consider JCC as one of the greatest of all time.. I dunno what you guys are talking about. Does HBO not show in Mexico? Why would staying with ShowTime mean more mexicans could watch him? Honest question

[@TheChoice264]

@sly717 Also,dont forget that a pro type fighting style doesnt sit well in the amatuers. You know what the amatuers are about. Professionally, if you have a style akin to JC's, you'll fair much better than in the amatuers. How old are you and where do u live if u dont mind the question?

[@punguinzzz]

Good old DON PIÑATAS CHAVEZ was accurate as honney grim bird picking the honey while his wings a10000 M¥$,it was one of those rare figthers for the world to enjoy during these segment of his prime!

[@sinusbradycardia]

Take it back to the original 8 and Chavez's resume is that he won a title at 135lbs. ODH 135, 147 and 160, yeah Felix Strum was the middleweight champion of the world when Oscar beat him. Tommy Hearn's is more impressive because he did win at 147, 175, then 160. If you include supers and jr. than 147, 154, 160 and 168 and 175 and the other bs sanctioning bodies then six division. Henry Armstrong did something amazing, 126, 135 and 147 at the same time. Unmatched in history.

[@sly7176]

@TheChoice264 I agree, he was some kind of freak, I am an amateur and when I fight I try to emulate Chavez, to fight like him, you know, to go forward and close the distance and all, but it is just too damn hard, it is exhausting, you get hit a lot, and u need to have a very heavy hand, this man just made it look so easy, like Ignacio Beristain said "nature exceeded itself with Chavez"

[@TheChoice264]

I disagree. For a boxing insider this was a thrilling exhibition of boxing skill and will displayed by both fighters. Rosario, though the loser, showed many honorable traits of the warrior and was constantly trying and never gave up. Chavez had all the tangibles and all the intangibles and would be a match for any fighter in the history of the sport,especially at Lightweight. Being a Duran groupie, why do you follow Chavez around on youtube? Another Chavez Hater anyone?

[@1Grandsun]

Julio El César Chavez does stand amongst: Armstrong, Louis, Robinson, and Ali. However, I don't necessarily agree he would've beat any fighter at 140, here's why. When Julio(31) fought Sweet P.(29), Pete displayed excellenct Ring generalship skills by defusing and frustrating a still efficient El César. Granite, I do consider that Julio had 86 prior fights and boxer-punchers are usually considered past prime by ages 27-30. However I don't see Julio(27) giving Pernell(25) too many more problems.

[@1Grandsun]

No doubt, I can dig it, and I like Muay Thai too. Especially that guy called Buakaw I think. And yeah me and 264 will probably box it out lol.

[@TheChoice264]

@canibusnj On the other hand,JC set up camp in the trenches,lived in the trenches, and blended his attacks and defense into one cognizant unit,which at times was breath taking in scope and utterly genius. Even in defense, he attacked. This is why he was greater than Floyd or anyone else on the inside. He didnt do it out of a shell, but facing you,utiilzing every srtoke of the artistic brush of defensive:Parry,Bob&Weave,Slippn,Rolling,Feint,Counter,In-Direct,Retreat....all right in front of enemy

[@sinusbradycardia]

Sorry but if you go by that logic Manny Pacquiao is an 8 division champ. There used to only be 8 divisons in boxing. So if take 40 years off the calender and called Manny an 8 division champ that meant he held a title at every weight possible in the sport. If fact wasn't the Supper Middle Weight title created specifically for SRL? No that's right the WBO had it's version of the title out as well and Hearns won that title 1st at SMW, not SRL. But history will show SRL as being the 1st 5 dc.

[@sly7176]

Well, the thing is that Lou Duva and Whitaker avoided Chavez for 6 years, they knew that in the late 80s he was almost invincible

[@engr138]

Chavez was a monster in his prime years. UNBEATABLE!

[@TheLuscious]

I can name at least 9 boxers better than Chavez: Robinson, Ali, Armstrong, Joe Louis, Willie Pep (who won 224 fights), Gene Tunney, Duran, Jack Johnson, Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Eder Jofre, Harry Greb, Sugar Ray Leonard.

[@judaschongo]

no disrespect intended, this was an entertaining fight; not the most exciting though, but it did possess a solid workmanlike pace with lots of infighting(& not much else) which was actually the forte of both these scrappers. neither of these 2 would of been any kind of match for Roberto Duran!

[@bmillerdrums]

I dont give a fuck what anybody says Chavez could of beat anyone at 135/140/146 on this night. He was amazing. Crazy accuracy, power , and ability to take a punch. This fight was his absolute prime no doubt about it. I would give anything to see a 25 yr old de la hoya against this JCC. Chavez even said he had never even had a drop of alcohol before this fight. Just trained like a mad man in the mountains. After the fight though he had a celebratory drink and it slowly went downhill from there.

[@1Grandsun]

That sounds good but that doesn't make it a fact. Sweet P, was a light wieght through most of those years including 1987, that would've been unfair to put P in with Chavez while Chavez was use to fight at Jr. Welter. All in all we don't know, but what we do know is that Pernell was robbed.

[@Armando316]

@bmillerdrums He was amazing. I would only take a handful of lightweights who could stand in there with him.

[@sinusbradycardia]

Because Whitaker proved his toughness when he had too. It almost appeared that Chavez and Whitaker were avoiding each other. Chavez started out at a lower weight than Whitaker and was in his division for less than 2 years. These two should have collided in 1988 and maybe they would have, had Jose Luiz Ramirez not won the second biggest robbery in boxing history. The biggest robbery goes to RJJ losing in the 1988 Olympics. Anyway JCC Sr. Favorite Fighter of all time. Tommy Hearns is 2nd.

[@TheChoice264]

@sly717 There have been few, if ever, like him in his prime. What separates him from the other all-time greats in their prime, was his intangibles. I hate to say it, but.....this kid was a freak.

[@sly7176]

@TheChoice264 Am no racist but I really think that if Chavez were American he would stand next to Ali, Robinson, Louis and Armstrong in every boxing list. Just watch this fight, it is amazing, Rosario was very strong, I think that this Chavez would have beat ANY fighter who ever fought at the 140.

[@sinusbradycardia]

Goddamn though body shots. Chavez did something no other fighter that faced Rasario did, come straight to him and take his power punches like nothing.

[@TheChoice264]

@sly717 Yeah, Benton and Duva felt the same way as you, and I agree with you,Benton, and Duva. In fact, everybody back in those days, felt strongly that JC would not only beat Pea, but ruin his promising career. Chavez was simply too much too soon for Pea. Team Pea ducked JC at Lightweight and when JC moved to Jr.Welt, Pea leap-frogged Jr.Welt and went str8 to Welter, thus avoiding a showdown with JC yet again. They(Team Pea) sat out the dance for 6 yrs.

[@sinusbradycardia]

Point being is there are too many titles and too many weight divisions. What that does to people who don't know the history of the sport is dilute what fighters, I do means, Henry Armstrong and Sugar Ray Robinson did. Even as great as Sugar Ray Robinson was, he just didn't have it in him that night to beat an average fighter. I fighter should not have to move up in weight to prove his greatness. Marvolous Marvin Hagler spent his entire career 160. Never complained about making weight.

[@sly7176]

@TheChoice264 I really think that this JC could have beat Pernell Whitaker easily, when they fought Chavez was out of his prime, THIS was his prime

[@Kedbuka]

Hammerin' Hank was a great, great fighter, I agree. But no one, and I mean NO ONE would've ever destroyed Chavez at his peak. He was simply too tough and skilled. Combine that with an awesome will to win and a fight against Armstrong would've seen both warriors in it for the long haul. Same with Duran. Too tough, skilled and willful. No one ever destroys those types of fighters at their peak.

[@JFDEZ599]

JCCHAVEZ @, 135LBS AND MID 2O'S, no one NO ONE would have beaten him. CHAVEZ HAD A GRANITE CHIN & STAMINA to fight 15 ROUNDS. IMAGINE if his fight with TAYLOR1 would have been 15 rounds. VIVA MEXICO, VIVA SANCHEZ,FINITO LOPEZ,JCCCHAVEZ the 3 best MEXICAN FIGHTER'S.

[@sinusbradycardia]

At 130 Chavez was a destroyer, I believe against good opposition Chavez always fought better. I believe Chavez peeked at 135lbs and it is documented by Georgie Benton that at 135lbs, they didn't want Sweet Pea in the ring with. Benton is quoted as saying he wanted Chavez to age a little and slow down a little before Whitaker fought. They saw this man destroy Meldrick Taylor and they were a little concerned about Whitaker toughness at that point. Which they should not have been.

[@engr138]

Chavez was a BEAST!

[@underloqet]

Soy un bodoque

[@rodd7]

He took a page from Roberto Duran.

[@TheLuscious]

I'll tell you why Chavez never got the acclaim from American fans that he gets from Mexican fans: He never learned how to speak fluent English. That's why we loved Arguello so much. That and his boxing skills. That's why we love de la Hoya so much. It's like if I go to Mexico to work. I need to know the language. @TheChoice you run your mouth but Robinson, Ali and Armstrong were miles better than Chavez. No legit list would rank Chavez ahead of any of these three fighters. Duran was too.

[@osbornehunter]

yeah thats true he was really fkn good, but oh yeah, delahoya made him quit on his stool...yeah, hes a proud mexican for sure...haha..dont get all pissed, i like chavez i just hate that he quit, he was past it by then but he still quit..

[@MrEl7decopas]

fuck ya brother Viva "El Gran Campeon Mexicano!!!!"

[@1Grandsun]

I also feel Aaron Pryor would've created many problems for El César vice-versa as well, and why'd you feel the need to state you are no racist lol?

[@TheChoice264]

As far as your rambling about what Armstrong would do to Chavez, it's quite comical. Armstrong was one of the greats,no doubt, but you really don't know if he would've beaten Chavez at Lightweight. Armstrong couldn't even beat mexican Baby Arizmendi,who whipped Armstrong with one hand. Arizmendi fought with a broken left wrist from the second round on and won every round,giving Armstrong a boxing lesson. Armstrong faired even worse in the rematch. He also lost to Davey Abad in Mexico.

[@elyahualicas]

chavez is the greates of all times, the god of boxing, the king of boxing 89-0 if you like it or not

[@MrEl7decopas]

@osbornehunter and Pacquiao destroyed ODLH what's your point??? age will dictate a lot of outcomes

[@kalaslsl]

Enjoyable fight.

[@vegpanther]

One commentator acknowledges that the mouthguard of Rosario is belted out at closing of 7th round and then another one wonders where the blood is coming from? My question is why didn't Steele stop the fight to allow mouthpiece to be refitted. Why didn't Rosario tell anyone if his corner didn't notice or if the ref didn't notice. He left himself absolutely open to getting knocked out or as happened getting bloodied in the mouth. All round bad supervision of boxing match. Chavez was going to win anyway but this type of oversight should never have happened. I always have my teeth down on my mouthguard when I take a punch and I would hate to know what would happen if I took punches to the mouth without a mouthguard=well, exactly what happened to Rosario-there was no coming back from this punishment in any case!

[@juliohernandez5110]

Chavez was simply the much better fighter, period. Rosario was a good champion but this is one of those classical instances in which fighter A is so much better than fighter B, that they could tangle up 10 times and the result would be the same every time.

[@TheChoice264]

@sly717 I agree. Oh there's no doubt about it. If Chavez was an american, even with his mexican blood, he'd been the greatest thing ever in their eyes. Could you imagine if DeLaHoya would've been as great as Chavez? The U.S would rank DeLaHoya ahead of Robinson. Thats just being real. The Yankees hated JC because he said,"Fuck you. I'm not speaking your english, I'm not moving to your country to be one of you. I'm a Mexican.". That, and he was REALLY FUCKING GOOD. He never sold out.

[@sly7176]

@TheChoice264 Yes Americans never really liked Chavez, by the way, I am from Monterrey, Mexico and I am 26

[@TheLuscious]

@Kedbuka You're crazy and dead wrong to suggest for one second that JCC was on Homicide Hank's level. I never saw Chavez holding three world titles in three separate weight classes simultaneously. I know Armstrong did though and judges had to rob him to keep him from making it a fourth with the middleweight crown. Chavez struggled badly at welter, a title that Armstrong. No, Armstrong would be too big and too tough for Chavez. He was great not indestructible.

[@preo2]

Did Ray Leonard say "Flash Flood Knockdown" at 2:40? WTF is a Flash flood knockdown? LOL!

[@TheLuscious]

Don't ever make the mistake of comparing Chavez to Homicide Hank Armstrong. Armstrong would have destroyed Chavez and it wouldn't have been close either. Not only is Armstrong ranked either second or third on every best fighter and best pound for pound ever list, he's the only world champion to simultaneously hold THREE world titles in three separate weight classes. At the same time. And it would have been four if the judges didn't rob him and stick him with a draw.

[@alejandroperez7631]

Duran would not beat chavez !, he did not even had a good chin I seen duran fights , and whitaker they chould call him the running man , most boring fighter .ever !

[@alejandroperez7631]

***** Chávez is a six-time world champion in three weight divisions,[4] and for several years he was considered the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world.[5] In a career that spanned over 25 years, Chávez won the WBC Super Featherweightin 1984, WBA Lightweight in 1987, WBC Lightweight in 1988, WBC Light Welterweight in 1989, IBF Light Welterweight in 1990, and WBC Light Welterweight in 1994. He holds records for most successful defenses of world titles (27), most title fight victories (31), most title fights (37), and he is after Joe Louis (with 23) for most title defenses won by knockout (21). Chávez also has the longest undefeated streak in boxing history, 13 years. His record was 89-0-1 going into his first official loss to Frankie Randall and had an 87 fight win streak until his draw with Pernell Whitaker. Chávez also set the record for the largest attendance for a boxing match, with 132,274 people at the Estadio Aztecaagainst Greg Haugen in 1993.

[@alejandroperez7631]

***** look this up

[@carlosarturofloreschalco9627]

Duran es mejor que Chavez, si Duran hubiera tenido lo ordenado y metodico de Chavez Duran hubiera sido mas grande; Chavez es uno de los mejores boxeadores del mundo pero Duran También.

[@alejandroperez7631]

Respeto su opinion amigo , pero esto es mas de gustos la verdad es que cada quien tiene su favorito , los dos fueron grandes .

[@littlebill4877]

carlos arturo flores chalco dime duran fue consecutivo como chavez ? Porque sabías que Chávez gano 89 peleas consecutivas pero no estoy insultando ni nada pero dejo solo mi opinión sobre esto y si duran fue un monstruo del boxeo igual chavez ambos fueron buenísimos saludos de un Méxicano.

[@TheChoice264]

If Armstrong lost to Baby Arizmendi and Davey Abad, isn't it only logical to realize that Chavez couldve beaten Armstrong as well, and foolish of you to assume that the great Chavez would lose without question? Fritzie Zivic was an all-time great,but also a very crude fighter, and he gave Armstrong a terrible whipping. Chavez was much more refined and better defensively than Zivic and hit with more power. This is why we can't ever just assume that one ATG woulod beat another.We simply don't know

[@ixtacalco510ak]

Sorry everybody but Julio Cesar Chavez had more balls to fight saludos from México City Champion

[@fitnessfreak90201]

@aschindler22 135 lightweight title fight.

[@TheChoice264]

@sly717 The cold hard facts of the matter is that,as a Lightweight, JC was at his peak, and everybody in boxing knew that he could not be beaten. He was just too tough,too skilled, had too much chin, too much heart, to much ambition, too much dedication and had too many intangibles to defeat.He would war every fight and not even have a scratch on him. No cuts, no swelling, not even a nose bleed.The only way you could beat this fighter was to sit it out and wait. Wait for him to burn out and age.

[@TheLuscious]

I forgot one more. Salvador Sanchez would have given his countryman Chavez all kinds of problems. He could hit with either hand and watch him destroy Wilfredo Gomez and The Professor Azumah Nelson, both Hall of Fame fighters. Sal was only 23 when he passed and he only lost one fight ever. You Mexicans got short term memories. Chavez this, Chavez that. Sal Sanchez would have given Chavez the war he was looking for.

[@sinusbradycardia]

@motorchranium they would have their work cutout for them.

[@mtumnene]

what the hell you talking about oscar de la hoya, thomas hearns, floyd mayweather jr, sugar ray leonard has moved up more than 5 division and won more than five world titles so no ur fact and get some knowledge on boxing son

[@yusukegarners]

@TheChoice264 well everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[@jessyj1971]

Wow, Tyson was with Rosario then moved to be a Chavez supporter.

[@Kedbuka]

My money would be on Duran too because he seemed just a little bit quicker. But both were very skilled, hard men and it would've been an interesting, classic match-up.

[@osbornehunter]

yeah i agree, fkn delahoya destroyed him, even fought him in close, made his ass quit, i couldnt believe it..a mexican quit...

[@sly7176]

Dude I like you, I really do, but if u wanna talk about JC Chavez talk to my men "TheChoice264" he is the one who will inform u, I am just a lil sad muay thai fighter

[@bradadezus]

yeah try take a few hundred punches in one night when u get old and see if u still wanna fight. Chavez was tough as fuck

[@sinusbradycardia]

Why people can't seem to understand what you are saying? I always hear where Chavez was a "protected" fighter and his record was "padded" with 106 wins. As if he never fought and beat decent fighter. I hear so much Chavez's record was filled with "bums". One person canijusa taints every Chavez fight with his comments. I have never seen such hatred for a single fighter. That hatred is spawed by one thing and one thing only - people love success but hate successful people. Pure bitterness.