July 2019 Update - FWG Supercapacitor and Battery for Electric Vehicles

In response to lots and lots of questions which boil down to are you still alive and where are you I made this video - i hope it helps

[@antonjordaan6557]

I also appreciate the update. We all want you to be successfull.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@lesliebrook9474]

Thanks for the update Robert I think we were all worried how about crowd funding to help I know the indigo Go didn't get the results you were hoping for but there are lots of us that would contribute I'm sure and I would be first on your list well done to you and all your team

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

thank you mate it's well appreciated

[@brianmcnish1835]

Silence can be golden, keep on keeping on!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@joaocarimo]

@Robert Murray-Smith is it possible to get your paper battery to replace lithium ion batteries in drones? I am currently making Autonomous drones for delivery usin 3 60 amps 14 volts batteries. What would be the volume of such specification? Woukd you be able to manufacture to supply?

[@wiffleduster]

I forgot you're from the UK. make a tea bag that also heats up your water instantly

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol

[@ThisRandomUsername]

I was just thinking of you guys today, and wondering how you were getting along. Your Twitter's been quiet too. It's great to see you're still going.

[@martinmay4628]

dito

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

yep - still plugging along lol

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@ANOLDMASTERJUKZ]

Correction required @ 9:02 minutes , for more voltage it is a series circuit . with all due respect , you inverted the terminology.

[@ANOLDMASTERJUKZ]

Ps. that is nice package .

[@maintoc]

I thought so, too. I was taught, in electrical theory, that the electrical constants (meaning what is constant in what kind of circuit) are current in series and voltage in parallel.

[@ANOLDMASTERJUKZ]

@@maintoc People get confused some times because the theories for resistance and power where parallel resistance loads draw more current ,series resisters drop more voltage ext.. In both cases though parallel is like the ties of the train tracks where the ties are the devices and the track is the wire. Series is like the lines on the high way and the lines the devises, the empty pavement the wire between the devices. So the minor boo boo was just getting the nomenclature reversed. We suggest just dropping a card there with an oops sorry we were high or something message in it. :)

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

Yeah it happens lol - the connections show were right - it just comes from long hours and stress mate

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol

[@everlasting1154]

Would you consider Licenseing the process of converting the waste coal piles to a graphite. Those large battery companies would fight for your business. Tesla might even want to buy it outright. Maxwell got 230m why not Murray and the crew?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

hell mate - for that we'd sell it outright lol

[@everlasting1154]

@@ThinkingandTinkering Start inquiring mate. Jeff Dahn and his team heads Tesla battery research. He teaches at Dalhousie University. www.dal.ca/diff/dahn/people/jeff_dahn.html His email [e-mail]

[@MykraDnB]

Fascinating update! And what a talented teacher/presenter... that was all done in one take, no edits. Wasn't it?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

yes it was - all off the cuff - so to speak lol

[@Mr.E.Shoppa]

SERIES increases the voltage, not parallel.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I know - i also know i said it the wrong way round - but thanks for pointing it out lol

[@dekutree64]

That conductive stickum looks very useful for building electrical devices out of aluminum foil.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

that's interesting mate - what were you thinking of?

[@giorgiovacca]

finally news of you Robert; I'm very happy to see you. Thanks for the update and good work. Never stop!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

we are pretty stubborn mate lol

[@alanbraga2852]

Awesome! Inspirational dedication that lead to all of those solutions. Thanks Rob!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@spikeydapikey1483]

I am so excited to see all the developments you're making. This is going to be epic!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

awesome - cheers mate

[@grumpyoldwolf2035]

You got Batteries connected in 'series' vs 'parallel' wrong. You will increase voltage if you connect them in 'series'. If you put them together in 'parallel' you simply increase the capacity and the voltage will stay that of a single cell. You mentioned that the other way around in your video.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

it happens - mostly it's tiredness - what really matters is when you link up the wires it works and if i get it wrong then i just wire them up the other way lol

[@grumpyoldwolf2035]

@@ThinkingandTinkering Fully understood and accepted. I just wanted to point this out because I think it is an important fundamental understanding. And you're right, if it doesn't work like expected, one can always rewire and try again. You can do that on a small scale, but if I take my battery banks individual batteries (16 x 12 V 125amp) and cable them all up in series, then I would rather stand far back and flip the switch with a 10 foot pole. I know for sure, my inverter (48V) wouldn't like me much anymore.... :-)

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I understand too mate - thanks for pointing it out

[@sarpuppy5415]

welcome back we missed you

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

do you know mate - i really enjoy answering the posts - it's nice to chat with folks - i guess what i am saying is - i missed you too lol - cheers mate

[@utkarsharora5329]

can you make a video on how to use graphene to make solar cells

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

nice idea mate - i'll give it some thought

[@CornishMiner]

Great to hear that you are still moving forward! Often wonder how things are going for you and this incredible, and increasingly technical project. Best wishes.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

luckily i quite like the process lol

[@promet]

Brilliant! Thanks for the update. Love getting peeks into your process. Straight on 'til morning! 👍️

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@MaleAdaptor]

Good to hear from you again Robert. You meantioned about conductive plastic and how the bumpy surface creates problems. Is the conductive plastic something you buy in or do you manufacture it your selves? You have got my engineer brain ticking.

[@dyukk8844]

Search on youtube for graphite plastic! Acetone + Styrofoam + Graphite,.... easy like hell!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

we buy it mate - we just can't do everything and what we need is a repeatable product so we buy it

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

it is mate - well basically - but if you need large amounts of a repeatable material that is something quite different and not so easy

[@frankwilson9821]

Thanks for the update Rob! Just wondered if you’ve considered approaching someone like JLR for help with production engineering? As you probably know there’s a massive shortfall of EV battery supply capacity worldwide and it would be great to see you plugging the gap!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I don't know who JLR is mate?

[@frankwilson9821]

Robert Murray-Smith Jaguar Land Rover innit! They’re currently developing electric versions of their entire range, as are Triumph motorcycles.......

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

they were at fully charged - i am actually going up to Warwick from going to that show mate

[@frankwilson9821]

Excellent! Hope you have a fruitful visit.......

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

me too - cheers mate!

[@nicgreen4234]

In reply to drop stix’s suggestion that us freeloaders cough up a few bucks for the cause (I polished the paraphrase) Yep, i’m in for that. The least I can do after all i’ve learned from you guys. Paypal is easy and not so “taxing” as some. Give me a way and I’ll chuck in a few Aussie dollars to do with what you will, if i’m the only one you’ll at least have enough for a beer. Leave the details how and where to send funds in the next video and it’s done. First ! maybe second, ds?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

i'd be much happire if folks visited the shop and bought a cup lol

[@hoverhead047]

All the time you show this I keep thinking about how it would go as a battery in a RC copter or drone replacement to those soft Li-Po batteries. Great to see you've found your camera and recharged its battery.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol cheers mate

[@albertmueller6616]

Perhaps if you advertise the merchandise you have available in your store a bit more like you have done above. Think about sending some stuff to Amazon for consignment maybe. Perhaps you have some product that can bring a bit of the money you need if you can get it sold. I know now I will be going to your store straight away to purchase some of the products I will be using to make my batteries. I suddenly got the idea that I can simply buy some of the stuff I will need from you rather than make it my self. Creating a win win for us both as I am sure you can use a bit of the cash and I can save myself a whole lot of time, PERFECT !!! You may consider posting a link to your store in as many places as possible and ASK that people use it to go purchase a product you have should they have a use for any of them. I know I do now that I think about it and it will save me lots of work and time.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I am going to action what you say mate - thanks for the help

[@waynegnarlie1]

Thanks for the update Rob and a peek into the life of an entrepreneur. It takes a lot of courage, commitment and specialized knowledge to create any great product. However, much of that specialized knowledge is gained during the design phase of the product and that always take more time than can be pre-estimated. Your brilliance and creativity and that of your team will see you through. You have my respect Sir.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

thank you mate and thank you for taking the time to say so

[@kris-og9mp]

Dear Robert , I have been a subscriber since 2015, have seen your journey from afar. Live in India now, i feel i can maybe help you along in your path. A storage solution for electric vehicles will be in great demand here since there is a policy shift towards electric vehicles and the time frame for implementation is very narrow. (2025 as per the govt) Lithium ion battery chemistry is the one every Manufacturer is looks at, however I feel we as a country are still decades away from adapting such a pricey battery chemistry. There is a sweet spot between lithium ion/iron phosphate chemistry and lead acid chemistry. Maybe with all the work you have done, you can find that middle ground. And i can assist you too. Let me know please Best Krishna

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

write to me at my email mate - [e-mail]

[@aga5897]

Great to see you've been busy ! What happened to the other unit with the production line stuff, and the people ?

[@dyukk8844]

I guess,... insufficient money

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

The same thing that happens to lots of folks mate - some have gone onto different and better paid jobs, some are still here plugging along in the background. Money is tight so we only spend where we have to and where we can - but mostly we have back office guys doing the accounts and the like though you will be seeing more of them inthe near future

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

partly mate and partly they do other stuff that is needed - Steve and I are the only ones working on the batteries but other stuff needs doing and i just don't do a lot of videos on that

[@testme2131]

isn't there a company called WMG, who already has a production line for batteries like these?

[@martinmay4628]

Welcome back. I thought to myself you was caught by a dusky shark. Keep going!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol - no mate we are still here

[@BushImports]

I was just wondering how you guys were doing. You never did get everything you needed to finish the Twizzy project? I'm glad to see and hear from you again.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

nope - we didn't - but we are stiubborn lol

[@larrystrayer8336]

Thanks for the update. I admire the problem solving and the perseverance. I’ve been there with all the flustering obstacles. Please consider doing more timely updates. Even if you think there isn’t much to say. Y’all have a huge number of folks who are rooting for you

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

well said mate - i'll try

[@patrickmclaughlin6013]

Did I miss something? You cracked the dry electrolyte problem?

[@antonjordaan6557]

I think you are correct. Rob did it in his own unique way!!!!

[@horrorhotel1999]

He said the adhesive they developed needed to be non disolvable in their electrolyte

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

no mate - we created a dry battery electrode manufacturing system

[@danielfeyerabend904]

What a relief?! So delighted to see your update! As always you folks are amazing at solving the challenges with just your wits and pocket change. Will try to help with funds soon.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

we just keep plugging along mate - and cheers

[@horrorhotel1999]

Cutting huge rolls of paper to distinct and repeatable sized sheets is basically the bread and butter of every newspaper producer. If your sheets behave so much like traditional paper that the manufacturing process can be adapted, surely this should also be a possibility. Also, it seems that you have achieved design lock. I would be very interested in seeing how the batteries react to over/undercharging, shorting, and piercing of the envelope/destruction/bending while fully charged. Perhaps something you might want to share in the next update Truely hope you guys can actually achieve this, and show that innovation can still come from privateers. Best of Luck!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

i like the idea mate - i feel a video on the way lol

[@tonysnyman9500]

good to see everyones alive and innovating! looking forward to the next vid.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@VinoVeritas_]

Are you working with Wernham-Hogg paper merchants in Slough?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol

[@pgprentice]

Thanks for the update. What happened to the car or are you still planning to test your devices in it?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

still planning it mate

[@frederickbarger1594]

That's funny...I was just going to ask your thoughts on Tesla buying Maxwell...lol

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol - like minds mate

[@Buzzhumma]

Was thinking about you only yesterday and here you are. Looking forward to the day you show us the paper making company with your carbon paper. That will be interesting!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

yeah I am very excited by that - if we can tie that down we are there!

[@Buzzhumma]

Robert Murray-Smith “Things flow well for those that go with the way things flow”👍

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

absolutely mate

[@MerwinARTist]

I was thinking about you the other day .. and wondering how you guys were doing .. glad to hear things are going well. Keep up the great work! 👍

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@antonjordaan6557]

Robert can we assume that the supercaps we ordered and paid for (including shipping cost) will be shipped out soon?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

It's what we are working towards mate - i do understand it is taking ages though and if it is taking just too long if you want to drop a line to Emily she will refund you

[@antonjordaan6557]

@@ThinkingandTinkering Absolutely Not!!! I want to support you, I just get frustrated if I get ignored. You will succeed and I want to add my small contribution. Thanks for responding!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

no worries mate - you can always email me

[@lalbiakzualachhakchhuak9958]

I'd work with him just for him to educate me.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

awesome - thanks for saying so mate

[@ACTSRevolution]

Ha! I KNEW we could get a 3mo update this summer, with enough angst! YT channels do go out just like that, tho - the webcaster just finds something else from all their video exposure and no reason to go bak and explain. Very welcome update, too!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@justanotheryoutuber739]

Honestly guys I think you could start an IPO

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

You know mate - i think you are right and i think we are going to

[@fieldsofomagh]

Great to hear things are going so well and a lot of new solutions being created on a reduced budget. Looking forward to seeing you get the final version of the battery on sale.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

me too mate lol

[@bryanchannell7715]

You guys are MPS and we are icis it's a national chemical Institute of science

[@markuszingg3131]

Way to go Rob. We all cross fingers for you guys to suceed! Thanks for the update.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@robertkokal2511]

Anyone familiar with the work by T Tomson Brown where the gravity is neutralized by the capacity.??

[@sogbryan6633]

Hi Robert, thx for the update. But I have to say I'm a little confused, I thought you already had a battery factory up and running. Also, I can't seem to find any video's of the battery factory (or BF updates) on your channel. What has happened? Or what am I missing? Please let me/us know. Thanks Robert. P.S I was really looking forward to a mini-factory in the Mexico area sometime soon.

[@johnbarry8185]

Robert, I am glad to see you back. Every time I see Stuart Varney, I think of you. Anyway, I have a technical question. What is the dividing point, in the carbon size/voltage uptake? What I mean is, dust is too small, and .25 inch chunks are too large, but what IS the largest usable carbon size? Likewise, what IS the smallest? Thanks for your hard work, and carry on.

[@dennisfahey2379]

You have your terms series and parallel backwards. The 2V cells in series will increase the output voltage (2 x # of cells such that 2X4 cells would give you 8 total volts with a current capacity of the single cell. ) . The 2V cells in parallel will increase the available output current such that each cell increases only the current a single cells worth. Of course all batteries and capacitors have both an anode and a cathode so nothing new there. A battery has an electrolyte between plates while a capacitor has a dielectric. This of course dates back to Volta's PIle and the Leyden jar. If the technology works as claimed capital is readily availble and of course manufacturing is just an investment as Tesla demonstrated with their Nevada Gigafactory. Note that the massive tens of kilowatts batteries in the Tesla (and all EVs') is used primarily for drive power to the motors and also for dynamic breaking. Further you do not get a Copyright on a technical design/process - you get a patent.

[@johnbeer4963]

Dear Mr Murray-Smith. General small batch problem solver and dogsbody/phenomenal bodger (absorb me in something for a few days and i'll start coming up with ideas) here. Currently in South Yorkshire. Need any cheap assistance? (ie, the cost of food, tea, and a sofa to kip on)

[@teslar1]

Thanks for taking the time to give us an update. Great to see the progress you’re making and the problems you are solving as you go.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@vidxs]

Whatever happened to the hemp capacitor you were testing? Also why don't you make your batteries rolled? Seems the carbon coated copper lithium battery design is more efficient, maybe ? Oh why $15.99 for merchandise? If you need funding sell your shows to educational institutions, definitely meets required levels

[@vinu6484]

Whom is Steve? What about a diy lead acid battery? With the focus being for slow discharge. With a bit of insight into cold cranking amps vs slow discharge. Would it be worth it?

[@justme.9711]

Robert, to quote a line from Lawrence of Arabia - " Who are you!" What are your qualifications etc. I'm not worried, I'm very grateful sir, but it would be nice to know.

[@jasonwilliam2125]

People should really take note that he does not understand the difference between in series and in parallel .Just for the record parallel increases the power (2x 12v batteries remain 12v with twice the runtime) and series increases the voltage(2x 12v batteries combine to create 24v battery) not what he said around the 9:00 mark. He may have misspoken but i can assure you that anyone who truly understands these things can not get them confused as it is second nature.

[@albertmueller6616]

Brilliant, Thanks for the update. Love getting peeks into your process as it often helps me out as well. I also had settled on a similar type construction for my batteries and I to was having an issue with getting a good way to connect with the "PAPER" on mine as well. It appears this should work for me as well, Cant wait to try it out. You have given me the blueprints on how to construct my batteries. Rarely, will a person go on the internet looking for ideas and ways to do something and find such a perfect fit and layout as I have found in your video's. To find you were designing and building your own at the same time I was looking for that info. is just amazing. Then to find you are posting video on exactly how to experiment and find what version works best for them and to find you are FREELY giving that info. away without asking any compensation for your self and have no patents on your work, at the time you so badly need capitol to build your own products is unbelievably kind of you. All I can say is , You are one of the few true SAINTS and have been a GOD sent "Miracle of Science" for me . THANK YOU !!! so very much for all you do to help others who do not have a large surplus of cash available. I would not have been able to produce my own "even small" system if not for your help and Info. as I can not afford to simply BUY enough batteries to make up the battery bank but, I CAN however afford to build my own batteries with your help. GOD BLESS you and surely you will find the money and/or help you need for your project.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

Thank you mate and i am really pleased I helped. Thanks for taking the time to write and let me know

[@timcollins1131]

Very interesting and all can be achieved in Chiang Mai - In February I will have my small workshop lab set up and can bring all stages of the paper and assembly together with support from a local uni and government asssitance.

[@unlost117]

Great update and i am RIPPED to see A4 sort of size sheets in cells....as are alot of your viewers. Thanks again Robert and crew.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@markhodgson2348]

Conductive adhesive very interesting product hope your verification went well im trying to catch up on all your videos you have done ...ebay basket is filling up as talk about various chemicals and powders im in the process of building and improving my work environment so lots of shelves and benches being built lol anyway your doing great work and varied activities also

[@walteraustinr102]

What not provide a link for donations to help support your cause. Many of your videos are very educational that should justify your cause. God bless you. Keep on keeping on.

[@wiffleduster]

Sell a hot plate for military rations. Right now they use an endothermic reaction! Yours could be reusable and charge from the sun.

[@marielfving4652]

As a newcomer in this wonderful community, may I ask if this carbon is hemp derived or not?

[@bobboo1319]

hows the bike doing Robert .thank for the update.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

It's still there mate

[@Baigle1]

any types of plastic wrap that you can make one side conductive, and the other not so you don't need to put a piece of plastic between each flat cell? and what about thin wire grids like solar panels use to offset the need to have conductive contact over the whole thing... i think acrylic adhesives are expensive enough to consider the idea!

[@BushImports]

Are you sure you didn't get your series parallel connections backwards? It looks like the tabs would fold to touch the outside of the case to create a series connection and the tabs would be connected to each other while the cases would be connected to make a parallel connection, it's a neat idea at any rate.

[@strawman9410]

Can I buy these paper batteries from you for my electric scooter, if so where from and how much?

[@Piccodon]

9:12 put cells in parallel does not increase voltage. Series connection increases voltage, parallel increases current capacity.

[@philiprizek6384]

If charcoal can be activated via steam can also be activated to the evaporation of ethanol and instead activation takes place in the chamber where either under pressure or a vacuum which dry cleaners have boilers thank you level an entire city block

[@zer0b0t]

Yeah I was wondering, good to know everything is ok

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@Conservator.]

9:02 parallel should series

[@aomanchutube]

Yes he mistakingly switched series and parallel.

[@wtfreally495]

might sound daft, but cant you use carbon paper we can buy from the shops?

[@danielroden9424]

what's the watt hours per kg as you scale up the paper size? does it increase? at what size does that flatten out?

[@carr60ick]

Your attention to detail is inspirational. Wishing you all the very best.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

thank you mate

[@wiffleduster]

Tesla is going with a polymer graphene battery similar to a crystal

[@robertjames1259]

Why do you use salt water on separating paper. I thought we want to keep the charge separate in a capacitor

[@Karabetter]

I know one of the nagging minor problems previously was the audio quality. I was always able to muddle through by paying extra close attention to hear the good stuff. :) But in this video, I found the quality to be especially GOOD, even here in a wide open lab. :D

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

we bought a simple USB cam - the quality is just amazing tbh

[@MrKitesurfercharlie]

What is the Score on the twizy?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

it's still there

[@sandeepjain6027]

Which electrolyte is use in super cab & battery and where

[@mukundsrinivas8426]

r u carbonising the paper composites after u form them?

[@3dmaker699]

Great, the blue eyed genius is back.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol - never been away mate

[@3dmaker699]

Love your work . Have 3 d printed a power storage device using hemp carbon.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@jeffreyrood8755]

That's awesome stuff Robert and Steve! Thank you for taking the time to update us. Very exciting things. Can't wait to see these in the shop.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

awesome mate - cheers

[@alwaysintheway1]

How would one go about investing in FWG?

[@JimEdmiston]

Thanks for the update! The video was very informative. You got series vs parallel totally backwards, though. lol we've all done it.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol - i know - it's the tiredness that does it lol - tired is stupid mate

[@michaelvaughn2287]

What happened to the yellow and black blade ?!

[@sandeepjain6027]

In battery or supercab electrolyte use or not

[@michaeltandy1383]

Please never stop posting videos Robert you've given me a hobby and I'm forever in your debt ..

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@GreenmeResearch]

9:15 : you mean that the batteries are in series, not in parallel. Cheers, Raymundo

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

i do

[@benjaminboles5632]

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to seeing you all keep pushing onwards.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@cmwatcds1]

Are you guys open to investors?

[@alanardiff7782]

Phew!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol

[@jareddrake6244]

This is still the hemp battery?

[@mikecane]

How far are you from being able to replace the current 18650s? Makers of electric skateboards, electric scooters, and electric unicycles -- well, eBikes too -- are probably wondering, as am I! Alt-Wheels is a huge market. Continued success and onward to victory.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

we aren't looking at lithium ion mat - these batteries are meant to replace lead acid

[@mikecane]

@@ThinkingandTinkering Thanks. Good luck.

[@bradbennett464]

Thank you for the update. I know you are in the process of testing. Have you and indication on how many cycles this battery chemistry would achieve?

[@dyukk8844]

cycles testing take long time

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

certainly longer than 5,000 cycles but Dyuk has it right - it takes ages to test lol

[@dyukk8844]

@@ThinkingandTinkering you say that the supercap have 12Wh/kg, this is twice the energy of a Maxwell cells, this is good. What is the voltage of the supercap. 1.8V or 2V?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

2 volts on the one demonstrated mate

[@dyukk8844]

@@ThinkingandTinkering 2 volts, not bad. And what is the voltage of a battery? Also 2 volts?

[@bikerfirefarter7280]

Rob, have you thought of using a small laser cutter to cut up the 4-ton rolls? Works like a simple X-Y printer/plotter. You can program in any size and shape and quantity you like, regardless of thickness and other properties of the substrate. No repeated expensive tooling costs or wastage or delays if you want/need to change anything. Lase off exactly what you need on demand. Bang on lad, very much appreciated. Best regards to all.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

i haven't mat - nice idea - cheers

[@gen81465]

Sorry that I don't have time to read through all the previous comments, so my apologies if this has been asked before: What are the volt and amperage readings for your standard size cell? And on a different note: a while back (several years, I believe), you did a video where you were at the ocean and demonstrating a battery generating current by running seawater over it. My question would be: Could you put a bunch of those battery cells in a closed system, and recycle the seawater out of a "reservoir", passing it over the cells repeatedly? And if so, how many times could you reuse the seawater before it no longer generated any useful amount of current? And on another different note: If you run out of paper manufacturers, come to the United States (particularly the State of Maine). We have a bunch of idle paper plants, just waiting for someone to put them back into use. Keep up the good work. - George (gen81465)

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

it's 12 wh per kg for the cap version and around 50 wh per kg for the battery versio mate they are 2 volts so you can work out the amps easy.that was the SWAG generator - it's not a battery and these devices are so you could build up a multicell SWAG but if you put a load of these cells in the sea all you would get is wet cellsthanks for the tip on maine i'll look into it - cheers

[@cedricproper5256]

Actually, cutting 4 tons of paper to a specific and exact size is not as expensive as it sounds. The hardest part will be positioning a 4 ton roll of paper. After that you can use electric knives to rough cut the layered sheets into manageable stacks and use a hydraulic press to die cut them with a high degree of precision. I used to manage a hat manufacturing plant here in Denver. We would cut several hundred pounds of cloth on day 1, seal the buckram to it the next day, stitch the cut pieces together the next day and embroider and finish a day later. The last day was for packing and shipping. We could make 10k hats per week with 2 shifts. Not bad when you consider we did it with numerous colors of cloth, styles of hats and different embroidery programs. Your success is closer than you think it is. Good show!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

nice advice mate - cheers

[@yanovich3234]

Good to see you're still alive Robert, but you still have the worst sound quality on KZbin - always has been the case. You have two means of communication - audio and video - why have you always deemed audio quality as not important? What about your visually impaired viewers?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I got comments the audio here was good mate

[@lizardmech]

Glad you're ok. What happened to the bipolar design you were close to producing back in march? Did you run into issues when you tried to scale up production?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

exactly mate