Prime Speaker Vannifar Commander Deck Tech

Prime Speaker Vannifar is a Birthing Pod in your command zone! She's a combo enabler, a multitool, a ... amazing.
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[@MehrGills]

this deck is paradox engine good!

[@MehrGills]

@command zone

[@jonathantorres616]

lol in the words of josh

[@imasiontist653]

It's begun, boys.

[@dcnole]

LEAVE JOSH ALONE hahahahahahahaha

[@williamkorb8211]

I see what you did there. But honestly it’s Birthing pod, there is a reason why it was banned in modern. It’s also a more power version of yisan the wandering bard which is a t1 competitive edh commander. It’s paradox engine level good!

[@tyson263]

Hey awesome now it's time to... Wait a minute... This isn't Ooze tribal?! Disgusting!

[@Divock]

Or rather, why isn't it disgusting!

[@2jpritch]

Haven't gotten far in the video, but there is something I want to compliment this moment. So often, new players don't understand the vocabulary that has come from the long history of this game. For example, and this one comes up often, telling a player to mill 2. New players reaction: ".......what?" Off the bat, you do something very important in this deck tech. You not only explained what "podding" is, you also said WHY, which is the true reason new players get so confused. They don't know where the term comes from, or the why. The combination of explaining both what it means and why that term is used is a very critical part of helping players understand the extensive vocabulary used with this game. Well done!

[@generalawesome7279]

Where does mill even come from? I know what it means but still

[@2jpritch]

@@generalawesome7279 Millstone, a card first printed in 3rd edition and the first effect like this to see play, I could be wrong because the history of the game is so large, but I think that is the origin for that one.

[@BretasDoc]

No offense DJ, but this video should be striked. No one should have such information. No man should have all this power. *EDIT: Guys, it's just a joke, ok? Don't flag DJ, he's the nicest!*

[@joncalvert4690]

TO LATE I FOLLOW INTRUCTIONS

[@pkphantom]

Indeed, his power level is too great, and he's just throwing this information away for FREE? ...something must be done.

[@AStonedLemon]

But a woman... 😜

[@marcuskohm4745]

Big Pod Energy

[@fadianwickstrom5970]

Slight rules mistake here Bramble sovereign actually makes toke with cmc. All copy tokens have cmc in fact and thats pretty neat

[@Shvdow77]

Which rule ? I thought all tokens have 0 cmc

[@mrshadyassassin]

I was just about to post the same thing lol

[@Shvdow77]

Nevermind that's cool tho, now my rite of replication is better than I thought lol

[@mrshadyassassin]

@@Shvdow77 the token is an exact copy of the card, that includes cmc

[@jacobbradley7946]

@@Shvdow77 copy tokens retain all aspects of the card including CMC. Tokens like "Elf Warrior" or "Treasure" tokens do not have CMC.

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

Worth noting, a token copy of a creature also copies that creature's CMC, so things like Bramble Sovereign or Fairy Artisans make tokens that you can pod into 1+ the creature's CMC, which could be better or could be worse.

[@Nocturne989]

He did talk about that.

[@UlfMTG]

@@Nocturne989 no, he thought the tokens would pod for 1 drops, but their cmc is not gonna be 0 ever

[@Cyberium]

1:17

[@andersrolig]

Cannot wait til gameknights :D

[@iangratton6062]

God I feel like a fistfight is gonna break out over Vannifar...

[@williamkorb8211]

Ian Gratton Jimmy vs Josh cause we all know DJ would be too nice to fight over it. Haha

[@jacklegends2799]

Don't forget about the Showstopper. RAKDOS!!!! RAKDOS!!!!! RAKDOS!!!!! "Entertain me."

[@johannpohland2826]

Teysa is stronk too. And Rakdos funny. Rest kinda rubbish tbh

[@jackgreenway5581]

Unfortunately if you have watched there lasted video they are not using vannifar 😭😭😭

[@Pdog43Teru]

Of we all suck around until the end because your deck techs are amazing DJ.

[@tomasbevirt2421]

Of course I made it to the end. This episode was jam packed of great ideas! Always worth it!!

[@TheObviousCircus]

Discovered you from your time on the Command Zone! Very glad to have this as my first experience with your channel. Well done!

[@MinimalxEffort]

Can't wait to build my birthing hips commander deck, it's gonna be great.

[@BrunoCasagrandaNeves]

This is near and dear to my heart! I have two K & T builds, one is an untapping shenanigans. Pretty sure I'll be morphing it to this, so similar but much more streamlined! Thanks man!

[@nicholasevangelinos6962]

For 9 drops I would also recommend Artisan of Kozilek which returns a creature to the battlefield upon entering

[@ShinkuDragon]

i'm late, but unfortunately that wouldn't work, artisan (and most eldrazi) are cast triggers, while vannifar simply puts them on the battlefield.

[@hammsuke8290]

So I expect to see this on Game Knights 👀

[@jackgreenway5581]

Hammsuke I wish but they aren’t if you according to there the video they just posted

[@MRnobodyoftheeveryb]

They won’t because it doesn’t fit their power level. This is more like cEDH, and Command Zone is more like strong Casual.

[@jackgreenway5581]

Yes I agree to bad the episode was short anyway expropriate to good of a card

[@orionmoore151]

Oh I stuck around! This deck looks like so much fun.

[@2jpritch]

A few things I want to bring to attention (besides the fact that you did an amazing job with this): 1. Protean hulk can get the dryad arbor along with everything else, if I am remembering this correct. 2. Where is the seed guide Ashe??? Talk about something that gives you a sudden Mana boost! Then add in any amount of clone effects (of creatures on the board, entering the board, OR in graveyards) and the value train has pulled out of the station. 3. If you play into any of this commander's creature types (not like there are any good elves or wizards or oozes out there!) then you should probably heavily consider Faces of the Past. Now that one is a unique card that sees little play, but oh man do I think this deck loves it. Thanks for the simic love D.J.!

[@brandonroque3475]

Thank you for making this. Love your builds and I've been looking into building a prime speaker since my meta runs combo heavy. Awesome commentary and concepts.

[@ErikLW]

Was here to the end. Always willing am I when it comes to a lesson from Jumbo-Senpai.

[@kevinocta9716]

Tested this puppy out on xmage. Turn 4: as soon as prime speaker finds that first creature, it's literally game over (at least in 1v1). Too strong for my play group for sure, but god, I love it! I loved birthing pod decks so much when they first came out I was mesmerized by them... However in commander, it's got access to so many more busted things.... awesome.

[@GuardianAngelEatos]

I'm not a fan of toolbox commanders, but after watching this I really like this one! So many combo possibilities, which I think makes Prime Speaker Vannifar a fun combo commander!

[@maincapitol8813]

actually got a mtg commercial on the video LOL

[@EliseLogan]

I was playing with the idea of running this in a Bant build with Derevi. Imagine running Vannifar in Derevi with an Ashes of the Abhorrent. Now every time you sac something, you gain life. It shut off graveyard casting, so that's a down side to consider in the build, but most of the stuff in this build doesn't cast from the graveyard, it returns to hand, and that isn't affected by Ashes. Derevi already wants to flicker stuff, so all those ETB effects become even more relevant.

[@rachelbacker9873]

There are 2 creature cards that can help untap Vannifar at the 5 cmc slot, Chakram Retriever and Disciple of the Ring. The first one will untap a creature if you can cast a spell on that turn, and the second will untap a creature if you pay 1 and exile an instant or sorcery from your graveyard.

[@nicholassteffenhagen5074]

Nobody seems to be talking about how protean hulk pods into woodfall primus. When it dies you can grab melira or metallic mimic and also grab a trophy mage, which grabs ashnod’s altar. You can pretty consistently pod up from a two drop to that in a single turn. If you have some leftover tokens you can get thrasios or mindshrieker. That’s a win on turn five or six, depending on how lucky you get

[@coffeecaesar1443]

BIRTHING POD AS A COMMANDER!?! Seriously though, awesome video!

[@dshumway0724]

I’d consider adding momir vig and a bit more top of library manipulation that allow you to cast/play top of library before a shuffle (oracle of mul daya, courser of kruphix). Green flash effects are also really good in Simic because they keep your opponents guessing, and allow you to wait until end of previous player’s turn.

[@AffinityForCommander]

I love this crazy Elf Ooze! Great deck DJ! 😀

[@jackgreenway5581]

Affinity For Commander I love your channel do you think you can make a deck for your gameplay and maybe a budget deck tech

[@AffinityForCommander]

We'll certainly see what we can do! 😀

[@necrogenesis1981]

I can't believe I overlooked Thornbite Staff's rules, it says "whenever a creature is put into a graveyard", all this time I've been using it specifically with deathtouch creatures. If I had paid attention to what that rule means, I could've done so much more. As far as Vannifar, I'm totally putting her in Muldrotha on top of building one with her as the commander.

[@iurichiba]

This deck tech was released so fast that it makes me think you're playing this deck on Game Knights. Ha! Got you, DJ

[@GlenNorth]

I started brewing the minute I saw her. Love some of your ideas! Now the hard part is going to be making cuts haha

[@McMuffyPuffy]

DJ you are SO AWESOME OH MY GOSH

[@MrEvanBacon]

Can’t wait to build this deck

[@EvanPlaysPc]

Yesssss, I had some ideas for this Deck, I look forward to building it

[@IAMYETTI25]

isochron scepter and dramatic reversal ftw

[@diamonddudeygo]

Lightning Greaves is a nonbo with all the untap shenanigans the best version of this deck can create! Boots and Elixir are great, Greaves not so much :)

[@NotYourAverageNothing]

Teferi Just go back and forth, equipping different creatures.

[@Tupiaz]

It is there to protect Vannifar not o protect the creatures being targeted by Vannifar.

[@ShinkuDragon]

@@Tupiaz the problem is stuff like bounding krasis are ETB triggers, and if vannifar has the greaves, she can't be targeted, and thus can't be untapped. so if you want to use greaves you probably want to go the way of intruder alarm or creatures like scryb ranger.

[@imasiontist653]

Haha nice. I was waiting for this but wasn't expecting it so soon.

[@neovalley]

This video made me instabuy birthing pod. Thanks for the good content!

[@BiscuitsBox]

Damn all that time on The Command Zone increased DJ's talking allocation. Good job it was interesting stuff, yup I watched to the end. Lol.

[@cyborghuey]

Awesome deck idea! Totally making this once RNA drops!

[@Yellowboxable]

This was a great episode

[@moshjoshpitchief4418]

shroud is a nonbo with untapping "target" creature

[@Noskills]

Vannifar is kinda like a storm version of Yisan. She can go infinite really quickly if you have one of a few other cards in hand, but she doesn't really make your board any bigger since you're sac-ing the last creature you got to get the next creature, and she doesn't give you card advantage like Yisan does. She can get you infinite mana stupid fast but unless you have something to use it on then she doesn't really do anything on her own.

[@andersrolig]

Helm of the host is so broken in this :D

[@StumpyLongNeck]

Arguably intruder alarm is more broken XD

[@X111ESILENTX111]

Helm of the host is a little 2 expensive for a deck like this. By the time you have 9 mana to use helm you should have already won.

[@imasiontist653]

If you're just playing it for value. If you're comboing off it really isn't great.

[@UlfMTG]

helm of the host is broken with a lot of stuff but it is often too slow

[@GreenestTrampler]

Yes! I was looking forward to this deck tech

[@generalawesome7279]

Please do Teysa Karlov next. Orzhov is my favorite guild

[@antoniomiguelhopkinsii9652]

Woooo boi, DJ this deck tech is fresh and pretty, also I stuck around til the end.

[@lillylazer_666]

Thanks for this, always good to know what the enemy is likely to have. I’ll make sure to bring my really unfair decks as I imagine this is going to be everywhere at lgs for a few months when this comes out.

[@andrewbrown1675]

9:18 If I'm not wrong the token copy has the cmc of whatever it's a copy of so actually it's way better!

[@addambarcelos]

Podding tribal for the victory

[@ryancrites2021]

If you've got a more advanced database, you can basically return all lands you control to your hand holding priority with quirion ranger, and then roll out insane numbers of creatures, probably up to avenger hoof

[@xjgonzosx]

DJ I am going to put this deck together for the GP in Madison, WI in May. I will let you know how it does and send you the completed deck list.

[@jake_russ]

ITS REBELS, RUN, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES

[@yiangaruga4928]

The fact that the activation doesn't have a cost is quite stupid.. Even one mana would restrict the use enough to prevent it from going infinite so easily

[@UlfMTG]

What's so broken about it going infinite though? I feel like i'm missing some aspect of this deck it just doesn't seem that amazing to me

[@worldthroughabucket]

@@UlfMTG That's because you don't see it go off here. Essentially if you build this deck broken enough, you only need to activate her once to start a chain that will win you the game in the same turn. She is really stupidly OP and I can honestly see her getting banned pretty fast.

[@elijahdavila3684]

@@UlfMTG Her + Intruder Alarm/Thornbite Staff/untapping permanent + any creature = you win the game

[@UlfMTG]

@@elijahdavila3684 wouldn't you run out of creatures to pod into?

[@silverseaturtle]

@@UlfMTG Day's undoing

[@ScrapperTBP]

Could I request an evil stax Lavinia deck tech

[@andrewsigrist9981]

Bro, just a note at 9:21 there was a slight error. Token copies gain all of the copiable values from the original object including name, color, type, and mana cost, so a bramble sovereign token copy will not start the chain over but continue it like fate stitcher.

[@jim89sama]

I'm very excited to see a Teysa Karlov deck tech and her Necroharmonicon effect abusing with cards like: Athreos, god of passage Kokusho, the evening star Vengeful Lich Lifeline Martyr's bond Grave pact And other aritocrat overpower stuffs. Please, show us how oppressive she can be. Att. R.

[@TheEr910]

Stuck till the end. Reef Worm is another good include.

[@ahmadillo4959]

What’s the name of the song at the start of the video? Also, awesome deck tech as usual :)

[@tonionitoklan4872]

I think this would go in a Muldrotha deck

[@ravenmcclendon6701]

No one remembers Thornbite staff. Perhaps I've said too much...

[@littlehill12]

Should have put the brainstorm on a stick merfolk in the video too! Because if brainstorm is good, then on a pod-able bod has got to be great

[@daftgoblin3043]

Love the deck tech DJ! Any plans to do a deck tech on the newly spoiled Teysa Karlov? I’ve been brewing around her and would love to see what you think.

[@jimsmith-ex7fz]

Make a Judith deck next

[@christriplett1321]

Love the content DJ!

[@tracewaldram]

Don't forget about grave reshuffle abilities.

[@chadrittenhouse2958]

You might want to look at the rulings for bramble sovereign because the tokens are exact copies of the card including the cmc

[@eity8027]

If you wonder about the price, all the deck in english is about 400€ in MKM.

[@martinpowell2748]

I love thessa in the deck to scry away the cards dont want in my hand. I been brewing with her to figure what fun for her

[@DonovanPresents]

Vannifer can make a wizard tribal deck as well!

[@rubilina1357]

Oh boy here we go

[@nateholt429]

Went azorius in pre-release today not by choice but because i was the last one to pick; but in that last pick was a foil prime speaker vannifar so i guess i kinda gotta build her now :)

[@keenansutherland2776]

here to the very end, great video, im going to spend a lot of money on this deck

[@aarong2606]

Just a heads up token copies of creatures retain the creatures mana cost...so things like faerie artisans don't start your podding at 0

[@soultender]

DJ please do an Lavinia Azorius Renegade video or give me some good directions on where to start!!!!

[@fearofzdark701]

I am going to build this deck lol!!!!!

[@davesgoldenduck6066]

I did stay to the end

[@jamn03060]

Mystic snake would be a great 4 drop surprise.

[@rdbaron102]

And they shall call the deck "The high tide pod challenge deck" and there was much rejoicing.

[@shanemorris2900]

Lightning Greaves doesn’t work with shroud.

[@Jamie261090]

Maybe I missed it, but did you mention Intruder Alarm? Surely that is an auto include...

[@jacobmonks3722]

He said it close to the beginning of the video.

[@arzangofthebrothersoflightario]

Time to load up your Hushwing Gryffs, Torpor Orbs, Mindlock Orbs, Cursed Totems, Leonin Arbiters, and Aven Mindcensors Prospective Lavinia Players.

[@cassioabreu6872]

If you have 4 mana available while the behemoth is entering, if you decided to make the renegade a copy of the bramble, you pay 4 and get 2 behemoth tokens before the first ETB trigger from the very first behemoth resolves. So, i think, that is 69 minimum trampling damage.

[@zuesmusic8591]

If this doesn’t get banned it will be played until it does turn one wins are so rare in commander and this makes it reasonably easy I don’t even know if you can lose by turn 4 if your commander isn’t countered

[@knightbane2857]

Muldrotha XD use her and meren ♠️ goals

[@crovax1375]

Prime Speaker a is very strong card. But I'm more excited about Judith, The Scourge Diva. She's more into my play style

[@driftingabstract4076]

Quality content.

[@StrongButAwkward]

I'm going to need to find a way to fit her into my Yasova theft/attrition deck, but I think having her as her own deck as well would be a bit too redundant and just a more combo focused deck.

[@RoundArthur]

Is that not the Sweetest creature type ever!!! :)

[@louis1111111111111]

the token from sovereign is a copy, so it has se same mana cost, like clones

[@inajar7947]

Posted before watching the video buuuut... a friend and I just started teching to go off with this deck as a modern-style "Does one thing, every game, as consistently as possible" deck. Curious how many of our pieces make it into this tech.....

[@itzvurb1163]

I just packed it 😁

[@JankTank]

Bramble sovereign's tokens retain the creature's CMC, just like rite of replication tokens

[@merlinmoller414]

Will there be a Teysa Deck Tech too?

[@albertosiqueira6393]

try Instill Energy, gives haste and untap for 0

[@ericleiva]

You said 38 Damage but if you put the trigger from the first Behemoth first on the stack, then the bramble sovereign trigger, then renegade doppelganger, then you resolve the renegade, then the bramble putting another Behemoth on board and another Behemoth trigger on the stack, then you resolve both behemoth's triggers and get 45 Damage instead of 38!

[@mixalissidiropoulos5572]

the link you provide is for Prime Speaker Zegana not Vennifar

[@PhazonOmega]

Vannifar is cool, may become a top deck, and I may have to build around. Then again, Teysa Karlov eats Vannifar. In spite of the ooze synergy with my avatar, I am #TeamKarlov .

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

No one ever mentions kessig cagebreakers or progenitor mimic in these videos :(

[@sadnibba4070]

Hey jumbo, just wanted to let you know that token copies of creatures have the mana cost of the card they are copying, so they can’t be poded for one drops. Loved the video though!