JUNK Ford Ecosport 1.0L 3-Cylinder Ecoboost Teardown. LAWSUIT ENGINE!

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I Do Cars

I Do Cars

11 ай бұрын

Check out our website at www.Importapart.com or email us at importapartsales@gmail.com for parts and part inquiries.
I've been tearing down engines on camera for 2 and a half years! Search my channel to see what I've torn down.
You have been asking and FINALLY! I found one of these little nuggets of combustion. A 1.0L, turbocharged, direct injected 3 cylinder Ecoboost from a Ford Ecosport. This is a pretty unique engine in design as there aren't a lot of 3 cylinder offerings in the US, and I think its the first domestic branded 3 cylinder since the Geo Metro of the 90's. This 1000cc powerhouse puts down 123hp and is available in the front wheel drive Ecosport and Ford Focus, although they are available in more cars for different markets. This particular core engine is thought to have around 70-80k miles on it which is very premature for an engine failure on a modern car. I tear this engine all the way down to try to figure out what happened, and why it failed.
Why on earth am I doing these teardowns? I own and run a full service auto salvage business in the Saint Louis area called Importapart. Part of our model is buying blown, core and unwanted engines and dismantling them to resell the good, usable parts. We do not rebuild engines, we merely supply parts to those who do.
I really hope you enjoyed this teardown. As always, I love all of the comments, feedback, and even the criticism. Catch you on the next one!
-Eric

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@gren509
@gren509 3 ай бұрын
"I Do Cars" Hopefully NOT for a living - I've not seen such an incompetent mechanic in many years of being in the industry.
@I_Do_Cars
@I_Do_Cars 3 ай бұрын
I bet you’re the guy who walks into a morticians office and tells them they’re a terrible surgeon. Hope your oil pump belt doesn’t break.
@andrecouture2061
@andrecouture2061 3 ай бұрын
Or the guy that walks into an Autozone and complains to the cashier about delays in parts shipment.
@Chris-sy2el
@Chris-sy2el 3 ай бұрын
@@I_Do_Cars I love that you pinned this 🤣🤣 Love your videos by the way watch them every week.
@user-zh9zz5ru6r
@user-zh9zz5ru6r 3 ай бұрын
@gren509 Tell us you know nothing about this channel without telling us you know nothing about this channel. Idiot.
@migueltron24
@migueltron24 3 ай бұрын
Or the guy complaining that his car has no oil 😂
@timothywood3452
@timothywood3452 11 ай бұрын
This video reinforces a theory I’ve had for a while, the only people Ford hates more than their customers, are their mechanics.
@veleriphon
@veleriphon 11 ай бұрын
Nah. This kind of crap keeps people employed. Job security. Doesn't mean it wasn't a dumb idea. Every vehicle manufacturer has done this at least once.
@andreasjonsson8075
@andreasjonsson8075 11 ай бұрын
That's why you buy Vauxhall
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 11 ай бұрын
Thats because engineers dont work on their designs
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 11 ай бұрын
Any small unibody vehicle ain’t worth a damn today, not just ford.
@LaurentiusTriarius
@LaurentiusTriarius 11 ай бұрын
My wife's stepdad works at a Ferd dealershit since the 1980's he's about to take his retirement. He had some years left but he explicitly said it was because he couldn't care less for the new training and the "Audi" build style 😂
@Matticitt
@Matticitt 8 ай бұрын
Always love how a $10 belt destroys the entire engine.
@lobsterparty72
@lobsterparty72 5 ай бұрын
In this day and age that belts probably 65 bucks not including tax.
@SASMacDroid
@SASMacDroid 5 ай бұрын
It wasn't the belt that failed 🤦
@W3rkd999
@W3rkd999 5 ай бұрын
@@SASMacDroidbelt debris blocked the oil pickup.. I’d say that was pretty significant
@firingallcylinders2949
@firingallcylinders2949 4 ай бұрын
I hate that auto manufacturers constantly ignore if it isn't broke don't fix it. So many car companies take designs that worked perfectly fine and then make it worse.
@lemonjuice6177
@lemonjuice6177 4 ай бұрын
@@firingallcylinders2949programed obsolescence
@comdeyfan4951
@comdeyfan4951 Ай бұрын
As a Ford Mechanic from Germany I service the 1.0 Ecoboost alot. First of all the 1.0 is extremly sensitive, service it well and don´t mistread it and it will run for a good while, but make one mistake, ( run without water/ put in the wrong oil/ abuse it when cold...) it will die on you garanteed. I have seen allot of Timingbelts and Oilpumpbelts like that because someone put the wrong engien oil in wich then started to degrade the Belts. Takes only a few weeks for this to happen with the wrong type of Oil. Also the Cranksshaft isn´t keyed so the belt can balance itself when you tension the new Timingbelt, because you need to lock the VVT units and the camshafts when changing the belt. That also means you need to take out the starter motor and put a Flywheel lock in so the Crankshaft can´t turn when you change the Belt. The New 1.0 Ecoboost now has a Timingchain, but for some UNBELIVABLY STUPID REASON (mostlikly money). The Oilpump is still Beltdriven. So you still need to tear the engine all 10 years or 200000KM/125000miles apart just to change one small belt. Facepalm!! Also the waterpump is now Driven by a Dry theeted Belt wich is Driven by the Camshaft end by Cylinder 3. YAY. Pls end me know.😥
@jeffsaxton716
@jeffsaxton716 Ай бұрын
I never liked the concept of turbo charged tiny engines.
@waifuracer6516
@waifuracer6516 Ай бұрын
​@@jeffsaxton716they are absolutely fine when they are not designed by monkeys high on crack.
@michealhaskell7258
@michealhaskell7258 Ай бұрын
I understand that on this engine there is no key way for the oil pump drive (a seperate belt to the crank belt) The oil pump though needs no timing like crank!!
@fadingbeleifs
@fadingbeleifs Ай бұрын
My 2006 S430 is nowhere near that delicate.... Almost 300,000 miles on it now... That car is a beast. It doesn't know what quit or die means.
@LionHeart567
@LionHeart567 21 күн бұрын
Thank you very much. Can you tell me if that new little oil pump belt is Dry or Wet (in the oil) ? Thanks
@mattpalmer6054
@mattpalmer6054 6 ай бұрын
As an ex warranty administrator for Ford here in the uk I can say we changed dozens of these engines under warranty. We were doing several a week! It’s a completely poorly designed engine with little robustness. We had them meticulously maintained and still failed. Ford technical told me they were stressed to the limit the minute they leave the production line and have no resistance to any faults like low coolant. In the end we didn’t even bother stripping them down. Just fit new ones. Must have cost Ford millions in warranty repairs. Same as the 2.0 litre eco blue diesel in the Transits. They have tarnished the Transits reputation.
@kmath50
@kmath50 3 ай бұрын
I watched the BBC news story on this. It clearly showed where coolant had leaked into one of the cylinders. I believe that it was a 1.5 L.
@michealhaskell7258
@michealhaskell7258 2 ай бұрын
Very surprised Ford allowed this design to go into production!! This wet belt type must have limited life - with such destruction by the belt through the oil pick up etc When the engine was stripped!! (Even the tensioners were damaged too)
@TDH8988
@TDH8988 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your information. Didnt no that!
@stevenclarke5606
@stevenclarke5606 27 күн бұрын
I had the misfortune to own a Focus, worst car I’ve ever owned, every thing that could go wrong Did. I will never buy another Ford Ever Again, that’s I’ve now found out how good Vauxhall cars Are !
@stevenclarke5606
@stevenclarke5606 27 күн бұрын
@@michealhaskell7258Ford started that the wet belt, was a lifetime fit!
@crichard
@crichard 11 ай бұрын
I’m surprised you risked putting all that weight on your engine stand.
@frankmoreau8847
@frankmoreau8847 11 ай бұрын
I was surprised he didn't use his forklift to pull the head.
@dennisgoans701
@dennisgoans701 11 ай бұрын
I bout lost it when hepicked up that crank with one hand!! ROFLMAO
@pogo458
@pogo458 11 ай бұрын
Serious risk putting that big boy on the stand
@tomteiter7192
@tomteiter7192 11 ай бұрын
@@dennisgoans701 and turned it over BEFORE pulling the plugs :D
@jamesnash1180
@jamesnash1180 11 ай бұрын
good 1
@alexandercortez4106
@alexandercortez4106 11 ай бұрын
As a Ford tech for a little over 2 years, this is the 6th time I've personally seen this happen, not including the rest of my shop. What we hear is either 1. The tensioner itself fails and there is no longer any oil pressure, or 2. The timing belt loses every single tooth (likely still tensioner failure) and becomes smooth and of course, no oil pressure. Most cars will keep driving like this until the "Low Oil Pressure" warning crops up, at which point we get it. There is no recall, but ford issued a TSB which directs to replace the long block and turbo. Which is why they are in such high demand. Obviously just a horrible engine design. Absolutely loved watching this one. I also hate that turbo vacuum line, and there's always one fuel injector connector that gives me hell. Great teardown!!
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 11 ай бұрын
Ecoboost across the board are trash
@alexandercortez4106
@alexandercortez4106 11 ай бұрын
@@shadowopsairman1583 the only one I almost never have issues with is the 1st gen 3.5, even with half-assed maintenance. I've owned 2 and worked on many. But all the small ones are a pain to work on and have numerous issues. Both 1.5's especially. So yes, I'm inclined to agree.
@geoffgaffieldsickassc4152
@geoffgaffieldsickassc4152 11 ай бұрын
since u have only seen 6 of these failures means theirs only 6 of these engines in your area.
@angelhibiki6867
@angelhibiki6867 11 ай бұрын
ive replaced 2 1.0l ecotrashes so far. first one belt failed and lost compression and the second one they drove it in at 0 psi of oil pressure and surprisingly it still ran great
@vincerivera2488
@vincerivera2488 11 ай бұрын
Can you say anything about the 2018+ 2.7 EB?
@ktatlow
@ktatlow 3 ай бұрын
Recent MSN story: "According to the recall notice, the belt tensioner arm may fracture because the retention caulk joint isn’t robust enough to withstand engine vibrations. If this happens, the tensioner could separate from the backing plate and cause the belt to degrade by losing teeth."
@blakeaasgaard9028
@blakeaasgaard9028 2 ай бұрын
Wow - Thank you!
@donak2773
@donak2773 7 ай бұрын
I end up on one of these videos at 3am when I can’t sleep. Never fails
@alferret1969
@alferret1969 10 ай бұрын
In the UK these engines are known as "ECOBOOM" for their ability to self destruct. Great teardown, enjoyed this one.
@gonesideways6621
@gonesideways6621 10 ай бұрын
UK autos example Jaguar, Range Rover etc. need I say more.
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 10 ай бұрын
@@gonesideways6621 and they’re going out of business in the next 15 years!
@gamesmaster1060
@gamesmaster1060 10 ай бұрын
The ecoboom name came from a cooling pipe fault in the early cars. That issue is long gone
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 10 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZqqdXinh6elZ5Y
@mescko
@mescko 10 ай бұрын
Now *that's* funny! ECOBOOM 😂
@nicholasvinen
@nicholasvinen 11 ай бұрын
They were so preoccupied with figuring out if they could make a disposable engine that they never stopped to think about whether they should.
@papawheelie5835
@papawheelie5835 11 ай бұрын
Like yoga pants...... Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.😳
@aaronbryan5095
@aaronbryan5095 11 ай бұрын
Furd doing Furd things
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 11 ай бұрын
@@aaronbryan5095 Yeah, like it was a major technological advancement to put the timing belt in the oil. Like to meet that guy...
@jhundley2009
@jhundley2009 11 ай бұрын
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind just to tink the new 5 liter uses an oil pump driven by a wet belt
@LaurentiusTriarius
@LaurentiusTriarius 11 ай бұрын
The self melting timing belt soaked in oil will assure in most cases that you don't pass the predicted life expectancy. Ford build assurance...
@matteo94164
@matteo94164 3 ай бұрын
this has got to be one of the funniest teardowns on the channel, because I see these engines a lot as a technician and they always sound like they're close to dying. Ford never fails to impress me with their engineering silliness
@iancormie9916
@iancormie9916 3 күн бұрын
It may ne engineering silliness or a symptom of the MBA disease.
@williamerwin8329
@williamerwin8329 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing me what happened to my ford focus ecoboost 50,000 miles, serviced by ford at the correct times and it still went wrong and ford don't care. 30 years driving ford, but never again!
@mrstupid
@mrstupid Ай бұрын
You were unlucky, the belts usually shred at 70,000 miles with the teeth going into the oil pump so the crank bearings fail. These engines are well know for this if you are a car repairer
@ddimov2557
@ddimov2557 Ай бұрын
yep
@andyshuparski3532
@andyshuparski3532 11 ай бұрын
wet belts are the most prime example i’ve ever seen of “just because you can… doesn’t mean you should” 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
@aldosilva2714
@aldosilva2714 11 ай бұрын
underrated comment here!!
@TheRealColBosch
@TheRealColBosch 11 ай бұрын
I'm nowhere near an expert on engines, but I have had a couple apart, and of course I watch this channel. This is the first time I've ever even *heard* of a wet belt.
@scuba2nuno1
@scuba2nuno1 11 ай бұрын
@@TheRealColBosch The actual engines from Stellantis Group (1.2 Puretech 100/130/155 Hp engines) equiping Peugeot/Citroen/Fiat/Opel cars, are all wet belt engines. If you change oil as required by manufacturer, with required specs oil, there should be no problem.
@503challenger
@503challenger 11 ай бұрын
Works good in honds GC mower engines... Maybe not a car 😩
@andyshuparski3532
@andyshuparski3532 11 ай бұрын
@@scuba2nuno1 Sure, i understand that with some proper engineering or whatever it can work but still begs the question, fkn whyyyy 😂
@SurelyYewJest
@SurelyYewJest 10 ай бұрын
I remember when Ford introduced this engine. Part of the marketing included demonstrating how just the block, or the block with head on it could fit in a suitcase. Seems that was intentional not to show how compact it was, but a new mode for transporting replacement engines to dealers.
@meganjay30
@meganjay30 9 ай бұрын
Yeah they were total idiots with all the crap they were saying about that stupid engine.. I was like "WTF"
@user-sf7kl9uh7k
@user-sf7kl9uh7k 9 ай бұрын
Stupid crap, Ford deserves what's coming to it.
@kernowmcrae
@kernowmcrae 9 ай бұрын
Saved on shipping! 😂
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong 9 ай бұрын
europeans are convinced this exact engine is one of the BEST bc europeans are used to even worse garbage from VW (VW engines that were never offered in america) LOL
@MattPSU02
@MattPSU02 9 ай бұрын
Totally remember that article. The Ford engineer took it in his carry on luggage.
@GCS88
@GCS88 3 ай бұрын
I actually want a documentary on what happened to the engineer who made this and how it was pitched to the CEOs
@barryporteous4904
@barryporteous4904 3 ай бұрын
It may have been the other way round!!😆
@Mr.Marbles
@Mr.Marbles 3 ай бұрын
Yes that is something the ceo forces the engineer to do. 😂
@garden0fstone736
@garden0fstone736 2 ай бұрын
Netflix won’t touch it that actually sounds interesting
@GCS88
@GCS88 Ай бұрын
@@barryporteous4904 I thought ideas are pitched to CEOs? 😅
@GCS88
@GCS88 Ай бұрын
@@garden0fstone736 What about Amazon prime? diney+? 😁
@simeunovicm
@simeunovicm 4 ай бұрын
Car industry making engines over 100 years and they came up with this genius design in 21st century
@jimthompson3030
@jimthompson3030 2 ай бұрын
lay down your bought off or brain dead car corps are a pack of criminals!!!!
@robytar
@robytar 2 ай бұрын
This engine (an many others) are probably from the same morons that designed the new and improved "EPA friendly" 5 gal. gas cans.
@09corvettezr1
@09corvettezr1 11 ай бұрын
I really like the use of a plastic thermostat housing living right next to the turbo.
@mann_idonotreadreplies
@mann_idonotreadreplies 11 ай бұрын
its super genius, Corvettes should have it too.
@regus69
@regus69 11 ай бұрын
turbo so tiny they thought it wouldnt generate enough heat
@young11984
@young11984 11 ай бұрын
Looks like that is more reliable than the tensioner so it doesnt matter long term anyway
@chrism8850
@chrism8850 6 ай бұрын
What could possibly go wrong. One of those miracle high temperature plastics no doubt
@chrism8850
@chrism8850 6 ай бұрын
I think the designer got shit-canned and decided to sabotage it.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 11 ай бұрын
I hope this does not sound too cruel but if you buy a 3 cylinder Ford engine, you deserve a 3 cylinder Ford engine.🤣
@rideswift
@rideswift 11 ай бұрын
You could delete "3 cylinder" from that phrase and It would still be correct
@ganzonomy
@ganzonomy 11 ай бұрын
In Europe you could get a civic with a 1L 3 cylinder earth dreams turbo.
@wantapgt
@wantapgt 11 ай бұрын
Have had 2 ecoboost v6 vehicles since 2010 and both were exceptionally powerful and reliable.
@gordonfischer8484
@gordonfischer8484 11 ай бұрын
Yeah true, but I still feel for non car people who buy this crap.
@Dan_Neely
@Dan_Neely 11 ай бұрын
@@ganzonomy The difference is that Honda knows how to make really good small displacement engines.
@bill3641
@bill3641 3 ай бұрын
Ford engineers " We've been using chains to drive engine internals for 75 years, and they are bullet proof. Lets change that......................."
@IslandArt61
@IslandArt61 5 күн бұрын
I doubt any engineer said that. More likely an actuary and executives in a boardroom demanding cost cutting design options. "Do it or you're fired" is a very convincing argument. It's not just Boeing building crap to increase short term stock price.
@fil1329
@fil1329 4 күн бұрын
Amen So true
@jesuscasillas7764
@jesuscasillas7764 19 күн бұрын
Enjoy watching you tearing down engines, this is the second one I come across on KZbin. Thank you for keeping it clean, God bless brother!
@Erik_Swiger
@Erik_Swiger 11 ай бұрын
I'll always remember the advice my Dad gave me. "Son, it's just as easy to find an engine that DOESN'T have an oil-soaked timing belt."
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 11 ай бұрын
On the negative side, the oil-soaked belts mean the engine will fail relatively quickly. On the plus side it'll still outlast the two PowerShift automatic transmissions it'll be connected to 🤣
@Shiny_Dragonite
@Shiny_Dragonite 11 ай бұрын
Actually... you'd be surprised. My aunt and uncle had (or maybe still have) an EcoSport and the engine was nothing but trouble from day one. It was taken care of but seemed to chew up a belt like this one did every 20k miles. I think it spent more time in the shop than it did their possession, but the transmission never went out. I hit the transmission lottery with my 2013 Fiesta.... for a while, at least. It went in for the recalls, and every once in a while it would shudder, but the TCM going out at 132k did it in back in 2021. After six months of waiting I bought a new car, and here we are almost two years later and it's still sitting on the lot, not fixed. A shame, because other than the TCM I never had an issue with the car at all. Ran great, got amazing gas mileage, and the only time it left me stranded were dry rotted tires from sitting before they went on my car. Wasn't obvious at the time of purchase, unfortunately.
@MruGotP3NED1
@MruGotP3NED1 11 ай бұрын
They didn't use the dual clutch on the 1.0 ecoboost. They had a 6F15 torque converter transmission and a manual transmission option.
@jamesnash1180
@jamesnash1180 11 ай бұрын
wow
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals 11 ай бұрын
They use wet belt in lawn mower engines, but a car engine? NO thanks.
@05milmachine90
@05milmachine90 11 ай бұрын
​@Discretesignals wet belts in mowers are an equally awful idea right along with plastic camshafts...even Honda makes trash like this
@user-bb8ky2vo1b
@user-bb8ky2vo1b 3 ай бұрын
Keep doing what you're doing. Look forward to your tear downs every Saturday night.
@tomkergil3304
@tomkergil3304 6 ай бұрын
Great job on ALL your tear downs. Amazing how "progress" takes a back seat to costs. The little eco ford used a small sized turbo; any details as to make and model"
@1337penguinman
@1337penguinman 10 ай бұрын
This engine was designed to survive just long enough for the car to be out of warranty. Also, Ford hasn't keyed their timing components in at least a decade. It's all held in time via tension. They even make special tools to lock everything in place anytime you need to undo the crank pulley. Because that bolt is the only thing keeping the engine timed.
@mrdomhare
@mrdomhare 10 ай бұрын
Same with VW
@kittytrail
@kittytrail 10 ай бұрын
wait 'til you get one of those shitty Peugeot 3-cyl ones. they destroy themselves way before the warranty is over and Peugeot always try to put the blame on you... 😹
@UnknownJinX
@UnknownJinX 10 ай бұрын
The older Mazda L engines(MZR 4 cylinders) also didn't have keyed cranks. This channel has 3 teardown videos for the turbocharged 2.3 engines and Eric wasn't happy any time he had to touch one. Mazda's own Skyactiv engines have changed the crank to have keys, but some of the Ford Ecoboost 4-cylinder engines are based on/have design influences from Mazda L engines, so they still lack crank keys.
@msmeyersmd8
@msmeyersmd8 10 ай бұрын
I'm not an automotive design engineer. But I have worked on several models of older American engines. V-8s of course. Is there any other kind? OK. Straight 6s can be great. The lack of keyed belts still stuns me. Am I correct that the tensioner made of plastic, that had disintegrated, was all that kept the engine timed? Unbelievable. It must be a non-interference engine because there was no evidence of valve damage? American Ford V-8s could be be poorly designed. A 289 1966 Mustang used a cam gear with nylon coated teeth. The nylon would wear down and cause the incredibly strong metal timing belt to slip a tooth or two. Hopefully no more than that. Why? It made the engine quieter. And probably accelerated planned obsolescence for Ford.
@mb106429
@mb106429 10 ай бұрын
I followed a ford puma the other day and one of the exhaust pipes was still shiny inside.... They've welded a second pipe by the side of the real pipe to make a fake twin pipe exhaust to make it look like a powerful car. I've also seen 3 new ish pumas with rusty non functioning back brakes.... Dopey owner driving around for 3 years in a new car with only front brakes... 🤮
@ShaunieDale
@ShaunieDale 10 ай бұрын
This engine has an appalling reputation in the UK. It is known in the motor trade as the Ecoboom because it blows up so frequently! Wet belt failure blocking the strainer and causing low oil pressure and subsequent bearing damage…pretty much exactly what you had there.
@jeeves_uk
@jeeves_uk 10 ай бұрын
I also hear Wednesday's can make it explode.
@BLUES525
@BLUES525 10 ай бұрын
Talking shite
@rossmills7218
@rossmills7218 10 ай бұрын
Just so simply not correct for over 10 years was the best selling car in the UK most of the doubling the amount of registrations the the car that came in 2nd place so yes will seem like high failure rate but if driven well and serviced great fun engines in 2014 the fiesta had a 1.0 140ps I drove one for 6 months averaging 46 mpg and a run to Leeds from London I was getting 60mpg.
@j.d.saccociates3313
@j.d.saccociates3313 10 ай бұрын
How does it run long enough while missing so many timing belt teeth to nuke the bearings? If would expect valve contact or just so out of time it won't run before all that bearing damage
@TheKnobCalledTone.
@TheKnobCalledTone. 10 ай бұрын
@@rossmills7218 McDonalds is one of the most popular restaurants in the world... doesn't mean it's any good. Ditto the Ford Fiesta. Though to be fair the Poms are used to rubbish cars, they bought all that BMC/BL/Rover shite for decades lol
@aroooooo
@aroooooo 2 ай бұрын
I have this engine in my 2014 Fiesta. I regularly get 45mpg on the hwy and 34 in the city. Currently at 150k miles 😬
@cheap18wheeler
@cheap18wheeler 7 ай бұрын
I loved your tear down thank you you were great 👍 👌
@victorgrasscourt3382
@victorgrasscourt3382 11 ай бұрын
In the UK this engine is known as the ‘Ecoboom’
@LionWithTheLamb
@LionWithTheLamb 11 ай бұрын
I have heard it called that here in the USA as well.
@DJDinaggio
@DJDinaggio 11 ай бұрын
I'd call it the EcoJunk.
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 11 ай бұрын
The “B’hang Guuud?”
@Real_Time_games
@Real_Time_games 8 ай бұрын
In the US we call it ecopoop or eco trash 🤣
@austintx4556
@austintx4556 11 ай бұрын
Wow! 1st time seeing a timing belt engine like this. They made it as a throw away car when anything goes wrong.
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 11 ай бұрын
Ford cologne 4.0, such a turd
@harveylong5878
@harveylong5878 11 ай бұрын
pfft, its built Ford tough. it'll easily outlast every other brand on the road. which is easy to do when Ford's spend more time dead on the road or in the shop somewhere
@tradde11
@tradde11 11 ай бұрын
@@harveylong5878 Outlast? Maybe, but what good is it if it's in for repair all the time or broken?
@elia2649
@elia2649 11 ай бұрын
​@@tradde11 that's the joke.
@dep6169
@dep6169 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, love when you get down to the end and let us know what you think happened.
@blakeaasgaard9028
@blakeaasgaard9028 2 ай бұрын
Wow! This is the first time I've seen one of your videos, and what a pleasure it was. A very enjoyable watch. you put out a lot of information in a short amount of time in a clear and concise manner, and it is clear that you value our time. My interest was in this engine specifically, in my recently purchased 2020 Ford escape. No failure in my engine, but your title of this video caught my eye. I had to tear down my sons 2.5 L Ford, however, and was struck with what I thought was absurdity when I found that the crank pulley/harmonic balancer was not keyed. I've been found out that the location is determined by a crankshaft counterweight stop which is in the form of a threaded bolt, used specifically for when the engine is serviced in anyway that requires the disassociation of the valve train, and the crank. after putting the engine back together, I realized that this is a fairly straightforward and solid engineering principal. It's essentially the same thing to my understanding as the Miata engines, and about 1 trillion other small car engines over the past couple years! Again, thank you so much for a wonderful video.
@Burnsidef250
@Burnsidef250 11 ай бұрын
The engineers really worked their asses off to make these as cheap and quick as possible to assemble. Which is good, because they'll be replacing a lot of them
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 11 ай бұрын
All ecoboost
@Meton12765
@Meton12765 11 ай бұрын
I don't know about "asses off" that'd mean the thing would actually also be durable and fuel efficient. Seems like a slap n dash job ruined by pencil pushers (accountants) and hand waving educated idiots (marketing). As always. Sincerely, an automotive engineering student.
@Burnsidef250
@Burnsidef250 11 ай бұрын
@@Meton12765 That's what I mean though. Someone worked really hard to make it this poorly. They min-maxed their stats favoring cheapness
@burntnougat5341
@burntnougat5341 11 ай бұрын
Typical ford penny pinching junk
@briantruck2284
@briantruck2284 11 ай бұрын
Better belt solves the problem
@bbellefson
@bbellefson 11 ай бұрын
A masterpiece of brutal cost cutting.
@paulherbert5548
@paulherbert5548 10 ай бұрын
trimming the hardware costs down to a penny ...
@davelowets
@davelowets 10 ай бұрын
Cost cutting has nothing to do with it
@h8troodoh
@h8troodoh 10 ай бұрын
@@davelowets what tf else could it be.. pray tell..
@MrBuzzBrain
@MrBuzzBrain 10 ай бұрын
@@davelowets For sure it is, you could easy make a better design on the oilpump/balance chaft if there was no cost issue. Even using buckets on the head is a clear sign. you don't use buckets on car engines, well you could if you are going past 8000prm appication, but I don't think a eco motor have that's for a goal.
@iHelpSolveIt
@iHelpSolveIt 10 ай бұрын
Its actually bad even for cost cutting. To cut costs, they would have made a better engine by NOT having a fuel pump attached to the cam. And the chain design is the worst I've seen for , well ever. They could have used a single double link design and a crankshaft oil pump.
@Daniel-OConnell
@Daniel-OConnell Ай бұрын
There is a good reason for no keyway on the crankshaft sprocket. It is known as a fully floating sprocket and is a very common feature on most modern OHC engines. It allows for perfect valve timing using alignment tools rather than timing to the nearest tooth. It is almost obligitary on diesel engines due to tighter piston to valve clearance. It is extremely rare for the sprocket to slip, if fitted correctly using a new bolt with each use. The added benefit is that timing is unaffected if the cylinder head or block needs to be skimmed.
@exforrestranger8475
@exforrestranger8475 3 ай бұрын
At 30:36 ... The mirror hanging on the King Ranch is priceless, as are all the scratches down the side. The fitting end to a Ford.
@centurybug
@centurybug 11 ай бұрын
I've seen redundant systems before, but never redundant failure modes. If that oil pump belt didn't get the job done, that timing belt was ready to let go at any minute and finish the engine off
@oldbearbrian
@oldbearbrian 11 ай бұрын
You were having entirely too much fun spooling up that turbo. 🙂 Of course, I would have been doing the same.
@tradde11
@tradde11 11 ай бұрын
Might as well. With that much play it won't be repairable.
@JL-ic1pm
@JL-ic1pm 11 ай бұрын
It sounds like one those toy siren whistles.
@thecatofnineswords
@thecatofnineswords 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if it could be repurposed as a door chime …
@garyalford9394
@garyalford9394 11 ай бұрын
Hate turbos on cars !!!
@mikeytee6821
@mikeytee6821 11 ай бұрын
ZIMM....ZIIIIIMMMMMMMMMM...........ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMM!!! Lmao!
@dontknowdontcare44
@dontknowdontcare44 6 ай бұрын
Everyday I come to this channel in the hope that he quietly and consistency rhymes the entire episode without mention and I learn more about an engine that I forgot about
@nigozeroichi2501
@nigozeroichi2501 3 ай бұрын
Why has it taken so long for your channel to pop up in my feed, this is so cool, getting to see failure modes of engines that I don't have the time or resources to autopsy myself. in this video as soon you revealed the belt my reaction was literally "W T F!" I can not belive an engineer at Ford proposed a wet belt to the execs and they "hmm hmm 😉👍 looks good" and not to mention no keyway on an interference engine.
@carguy7627
@carguy7627 11 ай бұрын
I think it'd be interesting to see you do a tear down with an engineer that helped design the engine. If they are no longer employed by the manufacturer then hopefully they could give honest answers about the design decisions they made and the constraints that were placed on them.
@davem3789
@davem3789 11 ай бұрын
They would tell you they were forced to by upper mgmt which is very likely the truth.
@paulherbert5548
@paulherbert5548 11 ай бұрын
never seen a wet timing belt design. Never new it existed.
@thegrandhoovalation
@thegrandhoovalation 11 ай бұрын
Packaging, crash safety and cost. Just survivable past warranty.
@jvsyoutube3298
@jvsyoutube3298 11 ай бұрын
@@thegrandhoovalation a 3 year motor or something.
@esseel7896
@esseel7896 11 ай бұрын
id like to beat the sh1t out of designers.
@ToyotatechDK
@ToyotatechDK 11 ай бұрын
That air gun makes for more boost than the actual engine 😅
@lloydisaacs415
@lloydisaacs415 11 ай бұрын
It's not about massive performance it's for the masses cheap small small engine
@joeyt6089
@joeyt6089 11 ай бұрын
Believe it or not they run 22psi stock.
@paulherbert5548
@paulherbert5548 11 ай бұрын
that turbo was the least of the problems.
@samuelcorbin3694
@samuelcorbin3694 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Video, as a technician who retired from the Ford Dealership in 2003 I can only imagine the aggravation of doing this in the car.
@richardward-pf8xu
@richardward-pf8xu 6 ай бұрын
Another great idea from FOMOCO which came and went. Glad you have some amusing videos to show the folly of untested ideas put into products, THANKS!
@abitdazed
@abitdazed 11 ай бұрын
All the engineers who worked on this cried when they were told it had to have no timing keys and that they couldn't afford either a timing chain or seals for the belt. Only the accountants went home happy that night. Still.... There was this one engineer, maybe a team, who stood their ground. They may have risked it all. Their careers....everything. I salute the head bolt team. That was unexpectedly satisfying
@TheOwlGuy777
@TheOwlGuy777 11 ай бұрын
As the recalls roll in, the accountants realize they had successfully sabotaged Ford, once again.
@kevinparr4823
@kevinparr4823 10 ай бұрын
These engines were only designed to last 60,000 miles just long enough to cover the warranty period 👍
@johnfullbrook628
@johnfullbrook628 8 ай бұрын
My 2012 Focus 1.0 ecoboost is on 77k I’ve had it 4 years and apart from a fuel leak and a battery that died it’s hasn’t missed a beat. I don’t know how your epa fuel rating works but I have recently getting 47.2 mpg
@gravemind6536
@gravemind6536 8 ай бұрын
@@johnfullbrook628 I've had my 2016 Toyota Auris 1.2T I4 for 4.5 years, its on 72000 miles and has had no mechanical issues at all outside of wear and tear items and servicing. It is bigger, more refined and doesn't sound like its misfiring unlike a 3 pot yet its still able to return more than 50mpg. Best part of all its chain driven rather than belt driven mean it won't have a costly £1000 bill for belt replacements.
@johnfullbrook628
@johnfullbrook628 8 ай бұрын
@@gravemind6536 i agree I think the wet belt over a chain is stupid considering how many hours labour it takes to change it. Ironically the 2006 Focus that it replaced was a chain driven engine and I traded that off with 140k on the clock I’d say the mk2 Focus was a much better built car as this mk3 has had silly little things needing to be done and it’s only on half the mileage
@u.e.u.e.
@u.e.u.e. 8 ай бұрын
Here in Germany they blow up at around 60 k kilometers, not miles!
@cs56076
@cs56076 8 ай бұрын
@@gravemind6536my 3 cylinder Toyota 1KRFE in my Aygo gets 61 mpg and if I go slow without air con on, 78 mpg.
@rustypetesengines6687
@rustypetesengines6687 2 ай бұрын
My wife's ecoboost Focus engine split a coolant pipe(plastic) and dumped its coolant in a few seconds, overheated in under a minute and conked. A Ford replacement was 1400 pounds sterling, and with a new clutch and flywheel fitted our bank account was minus 3600 pounds sterling. This was a 15000 pounds sterling car that had only covered 75000 miles. We still have the car and it is now on 108000 miles. Our daughter is having it as her first car and hopefully squeeze another few thousand miles from it. Thanks for the engine breakdown vid, I hope they have sorted thise daft belt probs out. Duplex chain drives would have been much better, after all, it us a motorcycle engine😄
@ddimov2557
@ddimov2557 Ай бұрын
🙂 more like a sawing machine ... junk. I'll never buy after seeing what's inside
@billstewartxxx
@billstewartxxx 5 ай бұрын
These teardowns are strangely hypnotic...
@nigelcox1451
@nigelcox1451 11 ай бұрын
This engine is also used in the Fiesta, in 100, 125 & 140 hp. Despite being calld 'eco', the fuel consumption was only slightly better than the previous normally aspirated 1.4. The 1.4 was just an adequate engine, burnt a bit of oil, but will probably outlast all the ecoboosts. Here in Europe, no keyway is becoming more common. Like you, I think the main reason is cost, but the excuse given is that the timing is set using holding tools, then the bolt tightened, so the timing is more accurate than being fixed by a keyway. My brother left a breaker bar on his crank pulley (Peugeot 307 2.0 petrol), hit the starter, bar hit the chassis, undid the crank bolt, timing moved, valves bent. Oops!
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 11 ай бұрын
The no keyway thing it's just a straight up cheap move. Glad Mazda moved away from it.
@aaronvienot
@aaronvienot 11 ай бұрын
I'm baffled by why this engine and car exist with such terrible fuel economy. The Toyota 5S-FE (2.2L I4) in the XV20 Camry was a basic NA engine with an ancient 4-speed (3+1) auto was rated 21/27mpg on the EPA cycle. Admittedly that standard has been updated but I personally saw 29-30mpg on long highway trips with the AC running. The Ecosport is about 300 pounds heavier and has more emissions criteria to meet but...how can it be 25 years newer and still be this bad?
@zed625
@zed625 11 ай бұрын
My 1L gets ~40mpg in my fiesta. I’m sure there were different variations but some of them got really good fuel economy
@gregoryleo4640
@gregoryleo4640 11 ай бұрын
@@aaronvienot Ford EcoSport uses a more reliable torque converter automatic transmission, not a DCT (Dual Clutch Transmission), which effects fuel mileage.
@VauxhallViva1975
@VauxhallViva1975 11 ай бұрын
No keyway is madness for the timing-critical parts. Hell, even way back in the 70's and before, they used keyways to make sure things could not get out of basic alignment. There were always ways to tweak the timing in other ways back then.
@MruGotP3NED1
@MruGotP3NED1 11 ай бұрын
They are very eco friendly because they're always catastrophically broken so they're never running 😂 We had one that shut off on the customer, it would crank but not start. Pressure tested the cooling system and cylinder 2 filled up the spark plug tube in about 2 seconds. Engine overheated so badly you could feel the warped spot between the block and water jacket lol.
@rallisf1
@rallisf1 4 ай бұрын
My 2012 B-Max 1.0L Ecoboost is in the garage atm for a timing belt replacement at 80k miles which I have been neglecting for a year. The condition of the engine you teared down worries me a bit but I had no major problems with my car. Let's hope it stays that way as I plan on keeping it another 3-4 years.
@chrislack7219
@chrislack7219 6 ай бұрын
These were initially introduced into the US market in the 2014 Fiesta. I have one sitting in front of my house with a dead motor with 83,xxx miles on it, which is toward the upper end of the life expectancy you can expect out of the 1.0 ecoboom. I believe most failures occur due to the cheap plastic Ford used in the cooling system getting brittle after a few years and cracking or even shearing off completely, dumping all coolant and causing very rapid catastrophic overheating. I read a post from someone claiming that their CHTS registered something like 2,100 degrees at the time of failure. The upside to the motor is that it actually puts out about 149hp when at full boost (~21psi) which the ecu's allow to occur in I believe 20 second intervals (plenty of time to be full throttle in most real world situations). Coupled with a 2,500lb car, in the Fiesta, and it actually makes for a fun go-kart like driving experience. It also can get very good gas mileage. We got 46mpg once on a trip with four people and luggage. My avg when driving the car for a full tank was usually 38-39. My wife's avg was more in the 31-34mpg range. One day I'll fix mine and then sell it immediately. Not a fan of planned obsolescence.
@aroooooo
@aroooooo 2 ай бұрын
My 1.0 Fiesta is just about to cross 150k miles on the original engine and belt. Waiting for it to go boom, then will just replace the engine. The belt replacement job in the US costs about $3k, just not worth it.
@lancethompson8145
@lancethompson8145 2 ай бұрын
@@arooooooI’ve got 400k on mine, also waiting for the timing belt to Grenade as a new engine from ford isn’t expensive.
@lancethompson8145
@lancethompson8145 2 ай бұрын
I agree it’s quite zippy for 1.0, my best mpg was 64 and average 52.
@aroooooo
@aroooooo 2 ай бұрын
​​@@lancethompson8145Amazing! That's 400k mi or km?? I swapped out the factory airbox for a cold air intake, best decision ever. The turbo noises are alot of fun.
@lancethompson8145
@lancethompson8145 2 ай бұрын
@@aroooooo 400k kilometres.
@mphilleo
@mphilleo 11 ай бұрын
When Ford first announced this engine, I thought "Cool, good economy in a high-revving, low displacement engine. Sounds like a spiritual successor to the Firefly turbo." Then Ford did Ford things, making numerous bad engineering choices, cut costs and corners, while still coaxing poor fuel economy out of it. Well done, Ford, well done.
@jdrok5026
@jdrok5026 11 ай бұрын
Bad engineering choices? I mean they aren't bad they objectively work. And are used in many places.
@mphilleo
@mphilleo 11 ай бұрын
@@jdrok5026 they didn't seem to work here...
@jdrok5026
@jdrok5026 11 ай бұрын
@@mphilleo again the ideas are proven to work. The problem normally ends up with defective parts or not a stringent enough qa policy on procedures etc. Even afm and mds can be perfectly reliable. But the problem is that clearly the material selection isn't enough
@thegirthquake8574
@thegirthquake8574 11 ай бұрын
​@@jdrok5026 that's a fuckin essay that can be summed up with "It didn't work"
@gildardo
@gildardo 11 ай бұрын
I had high hopes for this engine too.
@padillaxA
@padillaxA 11 ай бұрын
I've been quite curious about these little units for a while now.... all I can say is my face was contorted in disgusted ways most of this teardown! This engine easily deserves to be on the top of the list of worst engines ever designed and built!
@johnfranklin5277
@johnfranklin5277 11 ай бұрын
Makes my HT 4100 look like an excellent engine. Actually, my 4100 in my 83 Eldorado has been perfectly reliable, still running fine at 182.000 miles. But I know they definitely aren't great engines. My meticulous maintenance has certainly been most of the reasons, and possibly i just got a good one also.
@robertmcgovern8850
@robertmcgovern8850 11 ай бұрын
Plus it's ugly. The timing cover is ugly. The oil pan is ugly. The camshafts are ugly. We can overlook brutal design if a thing is useful, or if it is dependable. This engine is neither. It looks like something out of mid-70s Soviet factories.
@V8Power5300
@V8Power5300 11 ай бұрын
@@johnfranklin5277 I see another person that likes to self inflict pain. Mind you, your ht4100 is miles ahead of my Olds Diesel
@LaurentiusTriarius
@LaurentiusTriarius 11 ай бұрын
Meh hold my beer. You guys like Audi's and BMW's? 😢😂
@mesasavage
@mesasavage 11 ай бұрын
It looks like something communists would design and make everyone use.
@user-zc6vb2dq2w
@user-zc6vb2dq2w 3 ай бұрын
Very educational and informative. Great job!
@goobanet
@goobanet 4 ай бұрын
Great video thanks! Glad I've got an old Focus with the 2.0L Mazda motor. No Belts or crappy turbos to blow up!
@TheEMan621
@TheEMan621 3 ай бұрын
That 2L is indestructible, I had a 2007 mazda3 with the 5speed manual and the 2L, no matter what I did that thing refused to give up
@purple6188
@purple6188 2 ай бұрын
My thoughts too. Ford was putting out better cars in the 2000's. I personally drove that 2.0L over 225k before I sold it. Sold it for a what? You guessed it, another Mazda. The only thing I don't like about the next gen Mazda engine (same on the 2.0L) is the lack of port injection (gotta manually clean those intake valves..... again). Funny when I hear people say that the Ford/Mazda collaboration was bad. They don't know what they're talking about. Ford had better rust prevention at that time (look at the Mazda 3's) and Mazda is the new Honda will their engine designs.
@stevengagnon4777
@stevengagnon4777 Ай бұрын
Had a 93 protege lx with the 1.8L DOHC that engine was a gem good low end torque and could be rung out to the 7000 RPM red line all day. It took a loose oil filter( yeah the first oil change that I didn't do myself)and running it out of oil to lame it. Then running it out of coolant to kill it.
@luisdubhard6202
@luisdubhard6202 11 ай бұрын
I think that Ford labels that car as “Eco” because it is cheap for them to build. That’s it. Never intended to be cheap for the customer or in fuel. Great video, as always, Eric.
@oldfag_adventures
@oldfag_adventures 11 ай бұрын
2:05
@robertosotelo882
@robertosotelo882 11 ай бұрын
Eco stands for engine cheap option 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@wtfiswiththosehandles
@wtfiswiththosehandles 11 ай бұрын
I thought "Eco" means they're biodegradable :)
@footluck0r742
@footluck0r742 9 ай бұрын
I worked for Ford as a mechatronics engineer in Germany... The Eco boost has been around since 2010 in European fords. And what can I say, at that time Ford could no longer provide replacement engines under warranty, we had cars that had to wait for new engines for over a year... Built to just survive the lease, if I had to guess?
@noahcotney2957
@noahcotney2957 7 ай бұрын
This comment reinforces why I'm a GM guy. But gm makes a couple of turds these days. 1.4 4cyl turbo and 3.6
@Dmxravin
@Dmxravin 7 ай бұрын
there are so many little fiesta running around in the UK with I'm assuming the same engine. I have a feeling that it comes down to the usage scenario rather than the actual engine. Such as short drives, low miles, low miles but long wait until oil changes. Low miles, short distance driving and long time until oil service is what I believe kils engines nowadays.
@noahcotney2957
@noahcotney2957 7 ай бұрын
@@Dmxravin that's true
@ladjkaoz
@ladjkaoz 7 ай бұрын
can you imagen wait for 1 yr... yet if you are fail to make a paiment, you get all kind of fees and penalty fees. sucks how big corp get away with their BS.
@josephsamsor1698
@josephsamsor1698 6 ай бұрын
@@noahcotney2957gm is literally garbage. Their DOD failures and piss poor transmissions are a joke. Any of their smaller engines are also junk. The l5p is good but damn, I see so many of their gas v8s and transmissions replaced.
@blackpowder4016
@blackpowder4016 5 ай бұрын
The EcoSport is discontinued but the 1.5L version of this engine is in a lot of newer Ford cars. A major problem with all the Ford Ecoboosts is they're direct-injected so there's no fuel/air mix from the old style port injectors to clean the intake valves off. I'm told they get cruddy fast since the PCV system feeds a lot of crankcase blow-by into the intake manifold.
@markaruski
@markaruski 3 ай бұрын
Ford needs to have a new car called the Ford Triple Threat -- it uses the wet belt system, the Power Sh*t tranny, and the old Pinto's "built-in-BBQ" rear gas tank
@maximuscomfort
@maximuscomfort 10 ай бұрын
The Ford timing belt dipped in oil has got to be the gift that keeps giving.
@Species-zn8vz
@Species-zn8vz 10 ай бұрын
magnificent dip🤣
@EdgeOfPanic
@EdgeOfPanic 10 ай бұрын
@@Species-zn8vz 🤣 excellent comment! And Ford is not the only manufacturer doing this 😬
@markharris8929
@markharris8929 10 ай бұрын
Works fine in the 1.6l 4 cylinder!
@MicrowavableStudios
@MicrowavableStudios 10 ай бұрын
@@markharris8929the 1.6 isn’t a wet belt
@puciohenzap891
@puciohenzap891 9 ай бұрын
Either Pug or Citroen have the same stupidity
@joeyt6089
@joeyt6089 11 ай бұрын
I had a 2016 Fiesta with this motor It was smooth, sounded great, had nice mid range punch and got 52mpg highway. Definitely made an economy car more interesting to drive. I also dumped it when the warranty expired because I knew it was a ticking time bomb as evidenced here.
@obsoleteoptics
@obsoleteoptics 10 ай бұрын
I've got a 2017 Fiesta SFE 5-speed with just over 40,000 miles, should I be worried?
@CadgerChristmasLightShow
@CadgerChristmasLightShow 10 ай бұрын
@@obsoleteoptics yes.
@ARockyRock
@ARockyRock 10 ай бұрын
​​​@@obsoleteopticsa little. they are notorious for their unreliability. If it's what ya got then run with it while it works but dont expect any more than like 100k tops.
@SI0AX
@SI0AX 10 ай бұрын
@@obsoleteoptics I'm convinced that the engine in this video had 50,000 miles and failed as written on the oil filter. I recommend you get that belt changed out for piece of mind.
@barsa95
@barsa95 10 ай бұрын
Good choice hahaha
@czealtamahawk1228
@czealtamahawk1228 4 ай бұрын
Am not an auto mechanic but loves watching what's inside in any of these engines
@thepostman69
@thepostman69 6 ай бұрын
"Mechanically re gapped".... priceless phrase 😂😂😂
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 11 ай бұрын
I love when you tear down engines like this...smaller displacement units that us average Joe's might have out in the driveway. If you're taking requests I wouldn't mind seeing a 1.4L Fiat Multi-Air teardown so we can see the funky electro-hydraulic intake valves...
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe 11 ай бұрын
You don't see a lot, it's a whole module that goes on top of the head. Not a lot to tear apart. Good system providing you keep the oil fresh and use exact specs for it. Oh, and on the 1.4l if you replace regularly the small bolt-with-filter on the side of the head.
@dylanoppeneer2354
@dylanoppeneer2354 11 ай бұрын
the multiair module is reliable if the car has good oil in it
@marcelocarretto4656
@marcelocarretto4656 11 ай бұрын
Very common issue around here in Brazil, using The wrong oil specification causes that problems on the belt material, it deteriorates and get loose in the oil, Ford Ka, GMC onix are other examples. Very good vídeos Eric!!
@zed625
@zed625 11 ай бұрын
That actually makes a lot of sense
@chadgailey6832
@chadgailey6832 11 ай бұрын
When I saw that the filter wasn't motorcraft, I wondered if it was an incorrect oil issue that caused or contributed to the belt failure.
@dosgos
@dosgos 11 ай бұрын
I also was thinking that the wrong and oil would be detrimental to the belts. The problem is that all the heat and contaminants can be good for rubbers.
@danielveiga4252
@danielveiga4252 11 ай бұрын
Óleo errado ou de má qualidade aqui no Brasil já é um problema rotineiro
@jtlearn1
@jtlearn1 2 ай бұрын
Great video, humor, accurate and helpful
@adama2949
@adama2949 6 ай бұрын
I bought a 2014 Fiesta 1.0 automatic ecoboost in the uk in July. Took it to a Ford specialist and had the wet belt and water pump replaced. Car is now good for at least 7 years as long as I service every 5000 miles.
@TomPauls007
@TomPauls007 11 ай бұрын
wonder if that motor came with a pull-start option! 😂
@eduardojud56
@eduardojud56 11 ай бұрын
these timing belts became very common here in Brazil, including ford ecoboost... the problem is the oil spec, if you use the wrong oil and/or use some additive the belt is destroyed
@nlousapt
@nlousapt 11 ай бұрын
Yes. 21:45 that's the most common problem on that engine. Poor oil or not changed on time and debris of belt will block the oil pump filter.
@mathsunmasked56
@mathsunmasked56 11 ай бұрын
@@nlousapt Noted...my wife has a city turbo 1.0 3cyl with a belit in oil design. Maintenance with the correct fluids on these engines is critical. This is why our car has an oil life indicator. Fortunately, we don't even get to 10K kms in 6 months, so the oil is changed early. There have been a few issues with the engine - mainly poor / wrong maintenace, abuse or remapping. It's fast when remapped...but kaboom eventually...
@nlousapt
@nlousapt 11 ай бұрын
I have a Ecosport with 110k km and 5 years. Nevertheless, when was the 100k service I asked to be checked if the belt was alright and how was the oil pump filter, and was everything clean. When reach the 200k km i will replace the belts.
@chriskonte1909
@chriskonte1909 6 ай бұрын
Sidenote: They also offered the Ecosport over here in Europe with a 5 speed since 2017 (they got facelifted and no longer looked like some blind transformer) a 6-speed manual. MPG ranges from 42-45 on average depending on the extra or missing gear. The 6-speed automatic on the other hand averages 37.. idk what happened there but no Honda from the 90's has such a negative jump up in the fuel economy. The reason they went with a wet timing belt design is for better noise and vibration isolation, it also lowers the emissions, fuel consuption and friction loss. PSA(=french automakergroup of Peugeot and Citroen do the same, now some Opel and even a Jeep model use these engines with PSAs design. The engine series is known as Puretech or specifically the 1.2 Turbo versions I'm talking about EB). I know for a fact that these Puretech engines struggle with short distance usage. This way the oil dilutes and the timing belts dry out and crumble good bye engine, mind you short distance trips are nothing uncommon here. 2013-2017 facelifted Ford Fiestas are common with the 1.0 EcoBoost engines with either 101, 125 or 140 hp. They struggle(d) with dryed timing belts as well, part of that was also that Ford recommended the wrong oil viscosity ^-^
@andreiderme
@andreiderme 4 ай бұрын
Great comment! Thank you! What would be the correct oil viscosity?
@callishandy8133
@callishandy8133 3 ай бұрын
Perfect ! But pleas write bel-in-oil need special oil types. Standart oil and the pladtic.tubber get hard and tooth will be fast lost than you can imagine. YES short distance use and you must have smal amounts of petrol and water in the oil volume. Open the filler cap and small. Remember use a bike or a bicycle for short distance. Car engines must get warm and must have hot oil for a lot of minutes. Otherwise shorten service intervall dramtical !! less than half distance !!! And pry that the beli in oil will surview. Oh not cheap to change = a lot of working houres ! Short distance and 160,000 kilometer = 100,000 miles will be impossible (or a high risk to loose the engine !). Never ever forget to ask the car service person if he knows that these engine need special oil ! Better write a note and place it in the car.
@SteveClark-il7nk
@SteveClark-il7nk 6 ай бұрын
2015 Focus 1 liter gets 36 mpg with my foot in it hard and 39-42 highway. 39 mpg at 83 mph with a 6 speed. Love it but your assessment is correct. So far it’s a money saver for me.
@joecoleman3069
@joecoleman3069 11 ай бұрын
While I agree that is a cheap, poorly designed, POS engine, I have to say it had the coolest sounding head bolts when loosened that I've heard on the channel. Thanks for sharing, Eric!
@3rdworldgarage450
@3rdworldgarage450 11 ай бұрын
I remember when this engine first came out. I had recently stopped driving my 3 pot 1991 Geo Metro and thought the idea of a small car with a 3 cylinder and a manual was not so bad. Then I looked at that wet timing belt and the amount of power they were trying to get from a 1 liter (about 2.5x that of the Suzuki 1.0 in the Metro) and knew that it would be a bad idea. I bought a new 2015 Prius C instead and it's been a great transportation appliance (if a bit unlovable). In 8 years and 142,000 miles, all that has failed is the A/C compressor (under warranty) and the 12 volt battery. With the Fiesta/ Focus/ Ecosport, they had bad engines and even worse transmissions, as well as poor fuel economy. If you want a good small car, you buy a Toyota or a Honda. Anything else just won't hold up.
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 11 ай бұрын
And the funny part is, Yamaha gets 118hp out of an 890cc 3 banger with no turbo and that engine is known to be bulletproof. Of course it's in a motorcycle, not a car, but still MCs do some things that you'd never do on a car engine, like use the engine oil to also lubricate the transmission, clutch and stator, and also rev to 11k RPM and make most of your power at over 6k rpm.
@Ghauster
@Ghauster 11 ай бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 car manufactures cut corners. They aren't as worried about a large gathering showing up to tell everyone how bad the product is.
@johnfranklin5277
@johnfranklin5277 11 ай бұрын
Well....I just turned 100.000 miles on my 2017 Hyundai Elantra, with 0 repairs, and 0 issues. It runs smooth and quiet, uses no oil between 3000 mile changes. Even the brake pads are original, and again last week when having the tires rotated, I was told they are still good!! My 2 previous kias were also excellent.
@timewa851
@timewa851 11 ай бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423 they built the V-6 SHO for Ford back in the day. A triple sho would be nice. But this. No key way? Oiled belt?
@mikegreen2229
@mikegreen2229 11 ай бұрын
The 5 car fleet of delivery Fiestas we had at one of my jobs….. 3 transmissions failed. My boss replaced each of them with a Prius
@DeckerFI
@DeckerFI 6 ай бұрын
A good experience (so far) from non-mechanic point of view. I drive a 9 year old 1.0 EB Focus wagon, bought it when it was 4. Been solid on daily drive and longest roadtrip was around 1500 miles over a week. It's a weird thing, that wet timing belt. And it's labour-intensive -> expensive to replace because of the layout, but best do it ahead of time. I had the belt replaced at around 90k miles, mechanic said it was still super clean at that point. Ford says the change should be at 150k but didn't trust that.
@kisielthe1st
@kisielthe1st 2 ай бұрын
i've heard that some types of engine oils do accelerate the wear of the belt significantly. what oil are you running?
@lancethompson8145
@lancethompson8145 2 ай бұрын
I have 400k on mine and kinda went with the I’ll replace the whole engine route for cost.
@Kaz-ct3vd
@Kaz-ct3vd 6 ай бұрын
had this in a 6 speed manual focus before it was totalled. I really liked this engine, the torque band was very low and I easily got 48mpg average
@ewdtrey
@ewdtrey 6 ай бұрын
Same car. Gutsy little engine, pair well with 6 speed
@lancethompson8145
@lancethompson8145 2 ай бұрын
I grenaded the 5spd in my fiesta and installed the focus 6spd. I miss the taller 5spd final drive for highway.
@stephensklein6952
@stephensklein6952 11 ай бұрын
I'd like to say I was surprised with how bad the engineering and design of this engine was, but Ford has a long and sordid history of making subpar engines. Love the teardown and commentary!
@DJDinaggio
@DJDinaggio 11 ай бұрын
And yet Ford also produces the absolutely brilliant 5.0L Coyote V8 engine so go figure!
@nigelblack5295
@nigelblack5295 11 ай бұрын
@@DJDinaggio They get lucky every now and then.
@volvo09
@volvo09 11 ай бұрын
Shockingly GM has a wet belt in at least one of their new diesel engines, I think powering the oil pump, and you have to pull the engine or trans to get to it. Imagine spending the diesel tax, and having this junk in your engine. Sadly it's probably going to be a trend to keep cars from being too reliable and keep them failing so you have to replace it with a "cleaner" new vehicle.
@OUSWKR
@OUSWKR 11 ай бұрын
The 5.0 Coyote is probably the best modern engine they have. The old 5.0/302 from back in the day bc was a good one also. The problem with Ford now is “planned obsolescence”. They don’t care if you want to keep a vehicle long term. They quit product support as soon as they are legally able too.
@Perry....
@Perry.... 11 ай бұрын
​@@OUSWKRYeah but that's their one thing. Funny enough I feel like nearly every generation of mustang has a fairly bulletproof motor.. but most of their other cars go to shit. It's like they're obsessed with the Mustang only lol
@lightblade543
@lightblade543 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this 999cc ecoboost motor, my 2016 fiesta sedan averages 52mpg with a best tank of 56mpg. It was dubbed the sfe (super fuel economy) and was an option with a 5 speed manual in the 2016-2018 fiestas in the US. Ford hugely under rated the fuel economy of these motors. Mine is listed as 31 city, 43 highway, 36 combined. And it actually gets 40-50% better economy combined. Highway only at 60mph the economy sits in the 65-70mpg range. I bought the car used dirt cheap and has been amazing as a daily driver. The only issue ive had so far is a leaking coolant tank that cracked at the outlet barb, got a new one for $35. I do plan to replace belt, tensioner and plugs at 100k miles. Ultimately goal is to pull 200-300 lbs out of it and do a few aero things to see if I can get her to 60mpg average. Its also not really a slouch the car is so light the 125hp suits it well so its not boring to drive either.
@h8troodoh
@h8troodoh 11 ай бұрын
Cuz its behind a tow truck all the time..
@spyder000069
@spyder000069 2 ай бұрын
I bought a 2020 ecosport SE awd with the 2.0 and my wife liked it so much she wanted one. We ended up with a 2021 ecosport S fwd with the 1.0. We lined them up and did a short run to 55. They were neck and neck and the 2.0 didn't have a full car length by the end. I have driven both vehicles extensively and I can say this. Off the line the 1.0 has a lot of grunt and feels quicker. Around 55 mph you can feel more vibration from the 1.0 where the 2.0 is smooth. Even though my 2.0 is heavier with the awd system and doesn't have a turbo the two get almost identical mpg (within 1mpg). The 1.0 runs hot. When you shut down the car it buzzes (I assume electric water pump) for several minutes cooling itself down (my 2.0 doesn't). I had read about the failures prior to buying the 1.0 ecosport but the forums said it was due to a oil not compatible with wet belts and prolonged maintenance. I only use mobil 1 extended oil which is supposed to be compatible and I perform our maintenance regularly so took the risk and purchased the car. With the new recall on the 1.0 at least her vehicle is still low mileage (28K) so hopefully the solution comes before any issues but I also have the 6 year premium extended ford warranty on both just in case.
@markmoore6264
@markmoore6264 4 ай бұрын
Great stripdown video, I got shut of my Ecoboost engined Ford while it was still running 😅
@Nile9063
@Nile9063 10 ай бұрын
It's a shame, they could've made this engine so much better with little changes to it's design, and it'd probably be quite reliable, but the way they did it is just crazy.
@jothain
@jothain 10 ай бұрын
Yeah. Without wetbelt it would look like they're quite ok little engines.
@PAcifisti
@PAcifisti 10 ай бұрын
It's exactly as designed, a cheap car engine that's expendable right after warranty so you'll be in market for a new car. First time with Capitalism I presume?
@oldrrocr
@oldrrocr 10 ай бұрын
The only car you would want to swap IN a rotary engine.🤣🤣🤣 you could break it down, replace the seals and put it back together in the time it took to look at that ecoblah!
@cuddlefish999
@cuddlefish999 9 ай бұрын
The new version for a few years now has a timing chain, not belt
@Nile9063
@Nile9063 9 ай бұрын
@@cuddlefish999 Thank god. That was a good decision.
@JoeBob1955
@JoeBob1955 11 ай бұрын
This gives me a greater appreciation for the rugged simplicity of my Geo Metro's engine.
@MikkJogi
@MikkJogi 4 ай бұрын
Hi Eric, great teardown, I've been curious as to the insides of the 1.0 Ecoboost and it's wet belt! I was one of the first to buy one in North America: I ordered a new 2015 Focus, 6-speed manual, a couple of months before that engine was added to the Focus plant in Michigan, based on the good reviews the engine was getting in Europe (this was in 2014, before the problems became known). I drove it daily here in Canada, summer and winter, and put 330,000km (a little over 200,000 miles) on it WITHOUT changing the timing belt or touching the engine in any way, other than regular oil changes and a set of spark plugs! I guess I was really lucky....I sold it in late 2021, as I was having some transmission issues...and by that time it was apparent that the belts were a ticking time bomb. I was getting rather nervous about the belt failing, and having read up on the belt replacement procedure (special tools required to align everything because of the unkeyed shafts) I decided to let her go. It served me well, although the fuel economy was good but not as great as I had hoped. I think the reason it lasted as long as it did was the fact I was driving highway, 77 miles to and from work, each way. I did run the heck out of it, though, you could rev those things up pretty high! I always said it wouldn't win a race, but it wouldn't get in anyone's way either. I think what really kills the belts (other than having a belt run in hot oil in the first place) is city driving, the 240 degree power pulses of a 3-cylinder at low revs must put a lot of stretch-and-release tension on them, no wonder the teeth shear off! I miss the ease of service of my 1993 Escort from years ago, I could change the timing belt in 45 minutes in my driveway...no such cars nowadays. :-) Keep up the great work!
@superteckmp
@superteckmp Ай бұрын
This was a great video. Loved it
@eaf36
@eaf36 10 ай бұрын
I had a 2014 Fiesta with the 1.0T. Started exhibiting head gasket failure symptoms (cold start misfire, no heat due to air in cooling system) around 40K miles on it. Ford put a new engine in it under warranty and I sold it not long afterward. Having seen this teardown, I’m glad I did. Their paperwork said “cracked block” - assume they meant cracked head. It was amazing on fuel, torquey, and sounded neat - neat enough to get my car/youtube video featured in a Jalopnik article on “cars that sound better than they ought to.”
@johnsim3722
@johnsim3722 10 ай бұрын
No, they do mean cracked block! They cut a channel between the cylinders and that apparently cracks, giving the symptoms of a head failure whereas you really need a short block to fix the engine. Or a complete swap of everything.
@UnknownJinX
@UnknownJinX 10 ай бұрын
Regarding fuel economy, EPA rates 1.0T Focus worse on fuel compared to, say, a Mazda3 Skyactiv 2.0 from the same era while making LESS power. EcoSport was also rated worse on fuel than Mazda CX-3 or Honda HR-V, both with larger NA engines that make more or similar horsepower. Given the lack of displacement tax in North America and the issue with Ford Powershift, I'd love to know the reasoning of anyone who bought the car. This is why I am glad North America doesn't have displacement tax because then you get terrible engines like this. In a Fiesta or Fiat 500 I think it's fine, but in a Focus or EcoSport, the displacement is just too low and so you have to constantly rely on boost, which destroys fuel economy(engine has to run extra rich to prevent knock) and engine longevity. If you have to have a tax, base it on fuel consumption or emissions, not displacement.
@gvicj05
@gvicj05 10 ай бұрын
If a turbo engine is not on boost it is inefficient equalling WORSE fuel economy due to lower compression to allow for the increased cranking pressure of the extra air blown in due to the turbo.
@johnsim3722
@johnsim3722 10 ай бұрын
@@gvicj05 I'd say it's a bit more complicated. My Subaru on boost was thirsty, keeping it off was more efficient but less fun. My direct injection 330i was very efficient, unbelievably efficient. So much so that my 1.5l Ecoboost couldn't match it and you needed it in boost all the time because there was no power without it, and would leave you limping out of junctions dangerously. My current 320i does have turbos and you can hardly tell it's a boosted engine, and is even more efficient due to the direct injection. I'd say direct injection is the key to an efficient engine, turbo or not.
@soulsweeper1630
@soulsweeper1630 10 ай бұрын
@@johnsim3722e said that an engine with a turbo not in boost will be less fuel efficient than that same engine without a turbo, which is true due to parasitic drag.
@slick.productions
@slick.productions 10 ай бұрын
I currently have a 60k 2018 Fiesta with that Ecoboost engine and honestly I've found it's okay compared to various other engines I've experienced. You may find it hilariously small but in Europe it's a more "sensible" size. I would suggest that the overall failure of that engine you have there is belt degradation which secondarily blocked the oil pickup for a lack of oil pressure. This is a known thing here, you have to religiously use the correct oil for that belt, a Castrol/Ford recipe based on 5W20 and nothing else. If the oil pressure light comes on, you stop and call for a tow, do not attempt to drive home. Thanks for doing a ecoboost!
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 10 ай бұрын
My 2.2L GM Vauxhall Vectra was literally priced off the road for being a Gas Guzzler. I replaced it with a 1.4 litre Golf that does 50MPG so the annual road tax is less than 1/3rd of a tank of fuel. Of course old Tesla Model S drivers will have the last laugh paying no tax at all.
@theglitch99
@theglitch99 10 ай бұрын
Tesla owners will be constantly replacing thier Teslas because they are not made well
@maximuscomfort
@maximuscomfort 10 ай бұрын
@@MrDuncl their car insurance and service interval more then makes up the difference.
@Imperial_Boltgun
@Imperial_Boltgun 10 ай бұрын
Tesla owners need to replace their testes for being scared to burn a little of that sweet sweet guzzoline.
@nutgone100
@nutgone100 10 ай бұрын
@@Imperial_Boltgunbest Tesla related comment ever 🤣
@TheGamerOmega
@TheGamerOmega 6 ай бұрын
I have that engine in my 2013 Ford Focus hatchback, achieved 90 000 miles before replacing the timing belt and the coolant hose (prone to fail on MK3 Ford Focus), engine is still running fine. I'm getting an average of 45 up to 50 MPG (US) on an everyday use. From now it is an "ok" experience, i'm always taking a look under the hood every two weeks or before/after a long trip because I know that a few things can fail with this engine (that's how I found the coolant hose failure) I bear in mind that this engine will fail sooner or later but for now it's really economical to run with the fuel price increase in EU. Bought it used for 5000$, I know that I can sell it for parts for almost 3500$, if it fails it will not be a big loss of money with the money that I did not had to spend on fuel on another car that uses more gas. This engine is basically "cheap to run if it does not fail". Did not failed with me, hoping to get a few more miles from it before it breaks down or before selling it to someone else. It will be a miracle if I can reach 125 000 miles with it. Ford messed up with this engine but for my first car this thing was pretty economical. Already seen some Mercs, Audis and BMWs fail before reaching 90 000 miles because they are poorly maintained, I would say that this engine is doing ok when it's well maintained with the proper oil recommended by Ford.
@4Him4u2
@4Him4u2 7 ай бұрын
What do you do with all of the bolts you remove? It seems like there would be a market/need for that, all be it small?
@cmprodutions
@cmprodutions 6 ай бұрын
He answered this question once before. The cost of sorting and storing all the bolts makes it not worth it for most bolts. Not to mention a lot of cars use torque to yield bolts that have to be replaced once removed.
@B1GDaddyFatStax
@B1GDaddyFatStax 11 ай бұрын
You're actually right about how common the failure is and exactly why. I've only worked at our small dealership for about 10 months and have seen at least a dozen of these. It's always the oil pump/balancer belt failure. It starves the rotating assembly and literally self destructs. That includes destroying the turbo. Just a terrible design. The worst part is, we had more economical 3cyl engines back in the 80's and 90's that lasted longer. They just didn't have the power. Most ranging from 55-70hp. With stricter emissions and safety standards, the cars themselves got bigger while the tech lagged behind on 3cyl performance. So, they were phased out until the Smart-For-Two came along and piqued the public interest. At any rate, this is an example of over-engineering, and in all the wrong ways.
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 11 ай бұрын
Supposedly the wet belts create 30% less friction than equivalent chains. I can believe that, but given that a good chain drive is already like 98% efficient the total gains can't be much.
@dalenmonroe6526
@dalenmonroe6526 11 ай бұрын
@@nerd1000ify it makes sense when they're not wet drive like this and can be replaced easily, but now you gotta tear into the entire engine to remove them from a lubricated block to replace something that last almost the same amount of time lubricated with oil than when exposed to ambient temperatures
@MadMarky
@MadMarky 11 ай бұрын
Belt failure isn't caused by the tensioner though. Few people seem to realize that for wet belts you need to use a very specific kind of oil that does not have any solvents in it. Apparently this car got regular engine oil after a service. Just look at how badly the timing belt is deteriorated at 10:03
@mrcaboosevg6089
@mrcaboosevg6089 11 ай бұрын
In the UK we had loads of really small engines in big cars but those cars even though they were four door weighed less than a tonne. They got better mileage on 50s technology engines than modern cars which is ridiculous
@B1GDaddyFatStax
@B1GDaddyFatStax 11 ай бұрын
@@mrcaboosevg6089 and yet somehow better economy doesn't mean less emissions. I'm no scientist, so it doesn't make sense to me. I feel like it's a ploy.
@dustinlang4327
@dustinlang4327 11 ай бұрын
I have an 18 Focus with one of these engines. Typically see 44-48 MPG on it with the 6 speed manual. From all I've heard and seen, the first few years had bad rubber/plastic for the cooling system externally leading to more overheating issues, but all years share those little coolant passages between the cylinders. Later 1.5L 3cyl ecoboost have a small passage drilled a bit deeper so coolant isn't touching the head gasket. Additionally, the belts are meant to be maintenance items at 150k miles, though I'm not sure how realistic that is with 7.5k mile oil change intervals, so I change mine every 4-5k. Every time I have seen this failure, the same symptoms happen, making it hard to know the cause, but effectively the oil pump locks up and sheers the teeth off the belt. Given both belts have continuous oiling from the oil pan by being dipped in, it seems like junk gets in the oil pickup and stops the flow. Whether that is sludge from long intervals or bits of the belt cracking off as gas and carbon get into the oil is hard to say and know as it kinda all looks the same when it is small. The belt is materially designed to not decay from being in oil, but I don't know what amounts of gas might do to it. That said, I think the most important thing is checking oil level (should be cooler oil then) and condition. I saw plenty of Equinox have stretched timing chains and is was anywhere from 60-120k miles, a shorter interval than these belts for replacement (while timing belts for GM were 100k and chains started becoming 150k on the newer Colorado's timing chain). Though I figured you'd have to take the head off to get these belts off... there goes my idea of an almost engine rebuild and check at 150k miles. I was hoping it would be like the GM V-8 with AFM where you see almost no head gasket failures in them... because you see lifter issues and the head gaskets are replaced when you do lifters. In my ~4 years at GM I saw a LS head gasket failing once, but lifters hundreds of times. Was ~$3.5k if it was just lifters, $5.5k if the cam was bad and ~8k for a new engine installed. I'm interested to see how my 1.0 does compared to my 302.
@supernova655
@supernova655 6 ай бұрын
The Ecoboost was heavily revised around 2020, one of the changes being a switch to a timing chain instead of the wet belt.
@realdeal8607
@realdeal8607 5 ай бұрын
So they knew all along the belt was the problem😂
@torukojinnn6331
@torukojinnn6331 3 ай бұрын
dude great video. respect from Turkey ! have u heard of ford 1.5 ti-vct gas engine 3 cylinders?
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 11 ай бұрын
I love my 3 cylinder engine in my Mitsubishi Mirage now even more. Good old indirect injection, timing chain, no turbo. Very conservative engine. Low output, high reliability and durability.
@life_of_riley88
@life_of_riley88 11 ай бұрын
That's a fantastic engine, and the mirage gets no love despite being a wonderful little car for the money.
@shanemitchell5807
@shanemitchell5807 11 ай бұрын
Most people want more than 40 horsepower these days.
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 11 ай бұрын
@@shanemitchell5807 Well, it has 80 hp, actually. Nowadyas only 71 because of nitrogenoxides emissions reduction.
@YeetoLavito
@YeetoLavito 11 ай бұрын
​@@shanemitchell5807People always want more than they need
@CalculatedRiskAK
@CalculatedRiskAK 11 ай бұрын
Timing chain isn't that uncommon, especially on turbo engines. Unfortunately, ford never got the memo that there are quieter timing chains now that are drowned out by the fuel injectors.
@tomislavkralj8767
@tomislavkralj8767 11 ай бұрын
This engine is another example that the primary goal of the auto industry is to take as much money as possible. When such a breakdown occurs on the engine, most people decide to buy a new or another car because the repair is extremely expensive. It most often happens when the warranty expires. The timing belt is perfect, quiet, safe up to 90-120 t/km and its replacement is relatively cheap compared to, for example, changing the chain on an Opel Astra 1.6 cdti. But on that same Astra, when it stretched, the chain started banging and people still noticed (those who occasionally listen to their car) and still went to the service center and prevented the engine from breaking down. That's why the engineers decided to put an end to it and decided to install a wet timing belt so that the engine is quiet, so that you can't look at it in the service center and assess whether it needs to be replaced. And that it breaks just when the warranty expires. And this is not only a problem with Ford, all manufacturers do this. The Japanese are no longer what they used to be, neither Mercedes nor any other.
@surferdude4487
@surferdude4487 2 ай бұрын
My Dad had a 1971 Ford Ranch Wagon with a 351 Windsor engine under the hood. it blew up at 40k miles. When we tor it down, we found nylon teeth from the timing gears jammed in the oil pump. I'm sure that nylon timing gears will go down in history along with wet timing belts and screen doors on submarines as some of the best ideas ever.
@oscurito1
@oscurito1 Ай бұрын
Hi, "I Do Cars" -thank you so much for this video. Long story short, I've owned a 2014 Ford Fiesta 1.0L since day 1. today in 2024... that thing is running like new. of course, I can feel the plastics shaking and vibration from wear... but the engine, I have nothing to say about it. My oil changes have been ON TIME. Maintenance is key, changed the spark plugs at 100,000 Mi, same with the Coolant and the belts (all). I had to replace the water pump and that's it.. I am very happy with this little engine.. It does gives a 45MPG on highway... and about 38.5 combined. Stilll.. yes still after 10 years and 140,000Mi... Thank you for this video, I will be happy to do more on my little engine to last longer... Cheers!
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 11 ай бұрын
They really didn't go through much effort to obfuscate how intensely they wanted the engines to fail rapidly. I'm surprised that this is not a consumer protection issue.
@mrvict0r
@mrvict0r 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. Wet timing belts should be outlawed. What an abomination!
@st200ol
@st200ol 10 ай бұрын
Mine lasted for 90000 miles and nearly 10 years before I heard of this issue and got rid of the car, now it’s someone else’s problem. 😀
@marvetheman
@marvetheman 10 ай бұрын
I'd own another one in a heartbeat. Completely reliable if you do the oil changes early and use the right filter and oil. I drive over 40k miles a year and I'm an auto tech. So many people talking out their bums without any facts.
@st200ol
@st200ol 10 ай бұрын
@@marvetheman The wet belt breaking up and clogging the oil pickup is a real issue affecting many cars and I just wasn’t prepared to risk it. I did do regular 5000 mile oil changes but the Ford oil was so expensive, whoops😁
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 10 ай бұрын
@@marvetheman The facts are that it uses a belt for critical timing issues, and un-keyed sprockets to drive its oil pump. Regardless your claimed authority in all things mechanical, because someone paid you to obey some tabular data and get excited for more tabular data, the engineering is poor. Mechanics are not engineers, or they would claim to be engineers, along with the engineer paychecks. Meanwhile, it doesn't take an engineer, nor even a mechanic, to know that these design choices are both risky and cost-saving... A double-positive, from a financial expert's point of view... Hence, massive - and warranted - skepticism. ...or at least, that's what my bum tells me.
@passokita
@passokita 10 ай бұрын
Here in Brazil, we've been dealing with those three cylinders engines, wich push the Ford Ka vehicle since 2014. We've regularly been dealing with that timing belt failure you've faced, when the timing belt loses its teeth. It's been caused when owners use not specified oil for a long time and timing belt starts to lose teeth or releasing material, wich block the oil pump. That engine has another serious problem I've faced so many times: in some cases, the engine is running with no oil or with low oil pressure and there's no oil indicator blinking. When you finally realizes the engine has lubrication problem, the engine is destroyed. 🤦🏾🤦🏾
@bmw803
@bmw803 10 ай бұрын
Long story short, you have a bunch of car owners not following guidelines, neglecting their cars. Then when they break, they say "you should have bought a Toyota".
@mrdomhare
@mrdomhare 10 ай бұрын
I've noticed this on a few Fiat 1.2l engines. The tiny ball inside the oil pressure sensor seems to stick in the "everything is fine" position 😅
@talesmaschio
@talesmaschio 9 ай бұрын
@@mrdomhare Ford and Fiat, I guess we better avoid 4 letter brands starting with F.
@Alobster1
@Alobster1 9 ай бұрын
@@bmw803 To be fair having a wet belt is just asking for failures nobody expects. Timing belts will eventually fail and with this system they will send pieces into your oil.
@bmw803
@bmw803 9 ай бұрын
@@Alobster1 That I ain't gonna argue. It's definitely STUPID. Put a chain and forget it. They want to save on a chain vs belt, but spend how much more replacing engines when they fail.
@MartyMoose1611
@MartyMoose1611 2 ай бұрын
I get 33-35 mpg out of mine. Not much room, “nobody home” horse power; but hey: I got some bells and whistles and great ground clearance. And it looks great.
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