JUNKYARD ENGINES! 6.0 vs 5.3 - Which is the BETTER Buy?

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Stay Tuned

Stay Tuned

Күн бұрын

Junkyard LS Swaps are EVERYWHERE! Prices range from 600 bucks to 3500 on the used market, so WHICH ONES ARE WORTH THE MONEY?! We take a $2000 6.0 Gen 4 Truck Engine and put it against a $1000 5.3 Gen 4 with the same modifications! They get the same upgraded camshafts, springs and valvetrain, and the same induction setup, and we try to decide if the extra squeeze is worth the cash!
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
0:59 - 5.3 LS vs 6.0 LS
2:33 - Begin 6.0 Assembly
7:07 - Cylinder Head Assembly
14:53 - 5.3 Assembly
26:15 - First Startup 6.0!
32:10 - Chassis Dyno Time!
34:54 - THE WAGER
40:57 - Swap Engines
42:47 - First Startup 5.3!
44:17 - Dyno Woes
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@barrishautomotive
@barrishautomotive 9 ай бұрын
Every 6 liter ive bought has come with a truck attached. Buy a messed up Yukon Denali or something for $1500. Comes with all extra accessories and things you need. Part out the truck to recoup most or all of your initial cost and you're all set.
@PK-ne8hk
@PK-ne8hk 9 ай бұрын
Luv the show Do u have to degree the cam like i watch on horsepower tv or is that crap ? !!! Hope someone can answer
@torqueandbeanssauce
@torqueandbeanssauce 9 ай бұрын
Most times when you buy a 6.0 out already it ends up having issues and everyone has a hard on for a 6.0. Best bang for buck is 5.3 with a cam and good 243/799/706 head.
@1BigDaDo
@1BigDaDo 9 ай бұрын
Tell me where you can get a Yukon or denali for $1500....... 😅
@barrishautomotive
@barrishautomotive 9 ай бұрын
@@1BigDaDo auctions. I've bought several.
@tylerphillips3243
@tylerphillips3243 9 ай бұрын
In Michigan you can find them all day long, frames rusted out
@Techcensorshipbot
@Techcensorshipbot 9 ай бұрын
The fact that you dont have a bunch of crazy back end staffing and a giant production is what makes this show awesome. It keeps it real.
@operator8014
@operator8014 9 ай бұрын
Hey do still take $3k handouts from advertisers and still call their builds "budget" and don't count it towards the total.
@dalehall2993
@dalehall2993 9 ай бұрын
Summit's a proud sponsor for our "budget build"❤😂
@mickeyward1878
@mickeyward1878 8 ай бұрын
Salty ass people
@jamesdell332
@jamesdell332 9 ай бұрын
"So if you're still with us and haven't clicked the new vice grip garage video yet..." 😂😂 I'm a huge VGG fan and super appreciate the props and respect among the car community, especially the youtube car channel community. I knew I liked you, Tony (and the crew), but this just put the cherry on top! I'm already a subscriber and really appreciate your content and what y'all bring to us viewers. Thanks for being real and relatable!
@user-sc2ml7bd6x
@user-sc2ml7bd6x 9 ай бұрын
This channel is much better than VGG in everyway, his formula is tired. TA is always doing something different.
@realdeathpony
@realdeathpony 9 ай бұрын
VGG = muff cabbage.
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
We love VGG over here and we're good buddies!
@br549200
@br549200 9 ай бұрын
That tickled me too, but VGG posts later.
@Tommy-B.
@Tommy-B. 9 ай бұрын
VGG is in my queue, around 3 videos after this one. 👍🏻
@Sel10heit
@Sel10heit 9 ай бұрын
Anyone else catch the belt walk on the 6.0L at 38:43? Keep an eye on that accessory drive boys!
@chevelle19721
@chevelle19721 9 ай бұрын
I think that’s a hose you’re seeing bouncing around. The belt from the tensioner pulley goes at a steep angle down to go under the water pump pulley
@thundermug496
@thundermug496 9 ай бұрын
It definitely moved.
@LionWithTheLamb
@LionWithTheLamb 8 ай бұрын
@@thundermug496 I agree, that the belt for sure moved, I watched it three times.
@xjsc16x
@xjsc16x 8 ай бұрын
It wobbled around and then jumped ribs, but in the next shot they had already fixed it. So clearly they knew
@chevelle19721
@chevelle19721 8 ай бұрын
i see it now!@@xjsc16x
@indycollie6424
@indycollie6424 9 ай бұрын
I've never seen anybody chassis Dyno just a chassis before that's badass!!
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Now you've seen it all!
@Turbo8285
@Turbo8285 8 ай бұрын
They don’t call it a chassis Dyno for nothing… L😂L
@WeBeWrenchN
@WeBeWrenchN 9 ай бұрын
That cylinder head flip 😳😂😂😂😂
@TheZaxx
@TheZaxx 3 ай бұрын
I was like 😮 That could've been an expensive mistake.
@larryalexander4833
@larryalexander4833 9 ай бұрын
Guys the show is a real winner so far . Down to earth builds and not a bunch of big budget stuff. Good vibes and friendly happy folks. Please Please Please dont change as you grow or sale out to tv types or start the money games with your viewers. I appreciate your hard work and bringing us good info and entertainment. 🛠️💪🇺🇲👍✝️🙏
@davidvaughn7778
@davidvaughn7778 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. I get tired of the big budget shows acting like they are stuck with some kind of tight ass budget, but then they show tens of thousands of dollars of parts they are throwing at a "budget" immaculate car.
@mparting88
@mparting88 9 ай бұрын
You and Derek should do an annual collaborative video called "Cold Snacks and Pizza" - Seriously appreciate the work you guys are putting in!
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Hahaha that would be a blast. Thanks for watching!
@scottprior7558
@scottprior7558 9 ай бұрын
for a 24x 5.3 the L33 code is the unicorn. aluminum block, 799 heads, gen 4 rods, 4.8 flat top pistons and a slightly bigger cam. came out of a 2004-2007 silverado Z71 4x4
@MrAced123
@MrAced123 9 ай бұрын
i think they only come in the extended cabs. i have them in both my trucks been pretty good to 400,000 km. i wanna refresh one for a project
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
That's a hot rod engine right there!
@hardball107
@hardball107 9 ай бұрын
I found one in a rotted out 2005 Silverado with 144'000 on the clock. Saving that little gem for a V8 S10 swap with a 200r4.
@BlueWaterSpeedMarine
@BlueWaterSpeedMarine 9 ай бұрын
L33 is very overrated! Any gen4 5.3 will do just as well or better for less money.
@jesselee128able
@jesselee128able 8 ай бұрын
@BlueWaterSpeedMarine the only benefit of an L33 or LC9 is the siamese bores. But if youre not trying to make 1300whp then it doesnt even matter
@abruckse
@abruckse 9 ай бұрын
Love what y'all have been doing lately. Just a better vibe compared to the Motor Trend & Hagerty stuff. Can't wait to see more Sikeclone stuff... I'd love to build something similar someday using a Olds Bravada chassis body-swapped with a late-model Corvair I have sitting around.
@frankieloveg82
@frankieloveg82 8 ай бұрын
I no a 6.0 liter LS stock has 405 HP how do you put couple Grand in motor and it only makes 350 HP doesn't make any sense
@frankross5576
@frankross5576 8 ай бұрын
Use the same heads
@maxbialystock254
@maxbialystock254 8 ай бұрын
I've had all three and the best is the ignored 4.8. Find an early 2000 Yukon or GMC as a donor. That 4.8 will outlast the other 2 no problem. And you are right the new VGG video was great as always. But I am here so you DONT LOSE THE SHOP
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate ya!
@hajileserpud9539
@hajileserpud9539 7 ай бұрын
So what's so great about the 4.8 ? You didn't even give some specifics about pros and cons, please give the comment section some proper information on why you say get a 4.8 instead of a 5.3/ 6.0 ?
@maxbialystock254
@maxbialystock254 7 ай бұрын
Study all three engines. Architecture, specifications, block designs etc. I can't lay it all out in the comments section. Start with Wikipedia for example. If you do then you will have learned the differences and decide which is best for your application. For me from my own experiences I properly prefer the performance of the 4.8 But make up your own mind and go with that works for you.@@hajileserpud9539
@mickrambo6787
@mickrambo6787 6 ай бұрын
@@hajileserpud9539 For budget builds they just hold up the longest. It comes down to bore/stroke. The 4.8/5.3 have smaller bores which means less pressure on the rod. Keeping the power lower at lower rpm really helps keep the engine alive. The 4.8 has a shorter stroke, moving that power band even higher, helping the rods out further. The bigger displacement engines tend to spool the turbo sooner which further stresses the rods. Simply put, at 700hp on all 3 engines the 6.0 sees the most stress over the entire rpm band and higher peak torque. The lq4 has come down in price a lot in the past few years so I tend to go with that for a higher ceiling potential and lower rpm grunt.
@ericharris893
@ericharris893 3 ай бұрын
@@mickrambo6787more stress equals more output overall. I use 6.0 for everything. They like to go full blast and come back for more, time again and more. Why bother with loosing displacement? I’m talking factory engines in the trucks it came in being tortured in the line of commercial duty. Talking every generation of 6.0ls, from the 99 cast head first versions I had were a beast! And all the one ton dump trucks and fleet vehicles that got disrespected by random employees and other negligence. Skirt slap and all. Nobody should ever shy away from a 6.0 for a street built and stock engine because of reliability. That’s Ludacris
@Gotboost428
@Gotboost428 9 ай бұрын
Love how you guys did a real “a” to “b” test! Love the channel!
@GMdrivingMOPARguy
@GMdrivingMOPARguy 9 ай бұрын
You guys are killing it cranking out high quality content like this! Really appreciate the hard work you boys do. Also Tony you took that nose waxing like a champ. I pluck one nose hair and my eyes start watering and I go into a sneezing fit.
@goobworx
@goobworx 9 ай бұрын
clearly 4.8 is the way to go
@brian_sipe
@brian_sipe 9 ай бұрын
She's so great my four-point-eight.
@rustybumperclassics6342
@rustybumperclassics6342 9 ай бұрын
Everytime I've pulled a 4.8 from the yard they have always been so clean. Not beat on. The 5.3s are hit and miss and the 6.0s always had bad cam bearings.
@grabasandwich
@grabasandwich 9 ай бұрын
Sloppy Mechanics really proved that the 4.8s are just as capable
@ThePete2432
@ThePete2432 8 ай бұрын
You mean four point great!
@madmod
@madmod 8 ай бұрын
I honestly love some LS shenanigans. So glad youre making KZbin work!
@Darkmeatlover
@Darkmeatlover 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for consistently putting out quality content for myself and everyone to enjoy every week. Love you guys!
@raymondjack
@raymondjack 8 ай бұрын
Nothing but motor-on-frame on Dyno is probably the coolest dyno run if seen yet.
@mcjok88
@mcjok88 9 ай бұрын
Friggin awesome! Damn entertaining. Tony's always been real, the boys are great! Content perfect for local shop boys, everyone looking for more power, knowledge and know how. Very cool! Never a waste of time. Thanks.
@Thesenuts299
@Thesenuts299 5 ай бұрын
I cant get enough of this channel.. yall are some down to earth folks..
@stephenhodge6441
@stephenhodge6441 8 ай бұрын
I hope there will be an update video for when things get lined out with the 5.3. Great video.
@stevepederson6161
@stevepederson6161 9 ай бұрын
The 6.0 already had the advantage of more displacement but the 823 rec port heads will out flow the 799 cathedral port heads without even trying. all day long not a fair test ! But a fun test overall 😎👍
@travismcalister5241
@travismcalister5241 8 ай бұрын
Was looking for this comment before making it my self.
@jeffwain
@jeffwain 8 ай бұрын
I have 799 heads. Can I still use the same intake manifold with the 823 heads?
@naomikennedy3626
@naomikennedy3626 8 ай бұрын
I do believe they make an adapter. But I could be wrong. But no it will not work as is
@1pimpmuke4life
@1pimpmuke4life 7 ай бұрын
both heads wer 243s
@matthewgraham2129
@matthewgraham2129 6 ай бұрын
​@1pimpmuke4life wrong. and wrong again cathedral ports were 799's. and the rec ports were 823's. 5.3 had cath. 6.0 had rec
@matthewhaslam3219
@matthewhaslam3219 9 ай бұрын
My 2004 Silverado 2500HD has the LQ4 6.0 and love it. My understanding is the 5.3 is more for HP and the 6.0 is for torque. That's what i read, anyway. 248000 miles and going strong.
@willzuehlke37
@willzuehlke37 4 ай бұрын
6.0 it's 345 horsepower 370.... I don't know what the 5.3 is depends what year... Cuz if I remember they go from 285 all the way to like 340
@crebbsjd
@crebbsjd 9 ай бұрын
BA video bros!!!!!! We need videos like this. This is really great and important to see the differences. This also inspires mad confidence to build!
@gostrydr
@gostrydr 9 ай бұрын
I'm in the market and I was searching for this exact info. awesome timing. thank you.
@brandongreene3213
@brandongreene3213 9 ай бұрын
Ayyy a shout out to our guy at VGG. Talent recognizes talent
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Derek rules!
@astro54541
@astro54541 9 ай бұрын
It was a bummer that the 5.3 wasn’t happy, great series ! I’d love to see you do Ameri-Barra GM 4200 sleeper 👌
@kingdeuce7750
@kingdeuce7750 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic video and topic! I'm considering an LS swap into my Chevelle and have gone back and forth about whether to do the 5.3 or the 6.0. Much appreciated, y'all are killin it!
@danielalthoff3239
@danielalthoff3239 8 ай бұрын
You know my Friday evenings so well! Stay tuned followed by VGG. Can’t go wrong with either!
@BadgerRacingInc
@BadgerRacingInc 9 ай бұрын
Hope the bronze trunnions work out for you. They also offer C clip needle bearing trunnions which I'd go with over the bronze
@gregknott518
@gregknott518 9 ай бұрын
Loved the bet! Great idea for a video. I had always wondered about the differences. Thanks gents
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mattchew5014
@mattchew5014 8 ай бұрын
!31:20 i saw the dod bosses when i saw you putting both engines together and i had a feeling you guys didnt have the right vally cover for that application. glad you guys got it sorted. glad my 5.3 in my truck never came with that option. keep doing things that are awesome always learning!
@WhiskeyRiverRifleman
@WhiskeyRiverRifleman 4 ай бұрын
Nice work and good to have you back
@theglitch99
@theglitch99 9 ай бұрын
It's Friday! Time to hang w/ the fellas!
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
TGIF!
@badbowtie9263
@badbowtie9263 9 ай бұрын
You know that street sweeper was checking things out when he had to back up just so he could see more
@Kingsoupturbo
@Kingsoupturbo 8 ай бұрын
I can't think of a single youtube or professionally produced show as good as you do it. You brought the thunder on HRG with awesome projects, doing it again here, VGG is one side of American KZbin, Mullet country boys, who you have to watch on 1.75 speed as they talk so slow, and do the same content over and over, then you guys the other side, the drive to do new projects, and really put in the effort, nothing else like it!
@jwjr2197
@jwjr2197 9 ай бұрын
living fresh with that open drive line
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
HAHA, I was pretty far away but def sketchy as hell.
@lordlondis
@lordlondis 9 ай бұрын
Coming home from work and seeing Stay Tuned posted a video, makes life 100 times better.
@GrandPitoVic
@GrandPitoVic 9 ай бұрын
YUS SUH!!!!
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Hell yea man, thanks for watching!
@rubemartinez4024
@rubemartinez4024 9 ай бұрын
Tony has come a long way since I first saw him on motortrend. This is so entertaining
@bobwilliams9395
@bobwilliams9395 8 ай бұрын
Good on you Tony for living up to the bet. You guy's are awesome. Keep on wrenchin!
@danmyers9372
@danmyers9372 9 ай бұрын
One of (there are more) the things I have really liked about your channel is that you DON’T build the same things as other channels. And now another LS video. Sigh…. I do have to say that running a chassis (only) on a chassis dyno is a first and was hilarious! As was the ending. You are a stand up guy for showing that! 👍
@willfixthingsfordonuts
@willfixthingsfordonuts 9 ай бұрын
IDK, I love the LS platform, it was pretty new to them, so damn easy to build. And that 5.3 was a fail for sure, it's got problems. the 6.0 was on par though.
@fireman1294
@fireman1294 8 ай бұрын
I do know that if you get an older 4.8 5.3 block and it has to be stamped 4.8/5.3. Those have walls thick enough that you can bore them out to LS1 pistons. Also the 5.3 has a dish piston and the 4.8 had a flattop piston giving it a higher compression ratio than the 5.3 in a way to boost power. So don’t shy away from an older quality 4.8 motor. Keep the flattop pistons and put a 5.3 crank in it and have fun.
@user-sc2ml7bd6x
@user-sc2ml7bd6x 7 ай бұрын
A 4.8 and a dished piston 5.3 are within 10hp with stock heads and the same mods n/a, the difference is the extra tq the 5.3 makes. I wouldn't waste my time turning a 5.3 into an LS1 unless you have very special circumstances, like having the pistons laying around, able to get the machine work done dirt cheap and it's n/a only. If you're using boost don't waste your time or money on machine work or heads, just a cam+springs, fuel system, converter, turbo a 4.8/5.3 with 706/862 heads, no need to use 243/799 on anything smaller than 6.0 and I wouldn't on a 6.0 for the extra tq under the curve vs 10hp or less for 800rpms at the very top, rec ports on a flat top piston 6.0 are a compromise and a half, maybe they make more power with the largest cam they allow p-v for vs the same on with cathedral ports, however the cathedral ports allow significantly more cam, build more compression, make more tq, have less valvetrain to issues with budget parts, cost less, spool quicker, better throttle response, better part throttle driving and economy. I can't see using an 821/823 head on less than a 388/402/408/416/427/442/454/468. A ported, milled 243/799 on a 5.7/6.0/6.2/383/402/408/416/427 or ported, milled and possibly upgraded to 2' intake valve 706/862 is better for a flat top 5.3/5.7/6.0/6.2/383 then 706/862 ported, milled with std valves on a 4.8/5.3/5.7/6.0.
@beardedforlife3740
@beardedforlife3740 4 ай бұрын
If you swap the crank all you'll have is a 4.8. The 4.8 and 5.3 used the same crank
@TheUsmc0802
@TheUsmc0802 9 ай бұрын
Bro, love it! Dig the comparison, awesome MT vibe with you and your boys spin!
@mikehall7991
@mikehall7991 8 ай бұрын
taking new meaning to 'chassis dyno'. awesome.
@jameskellison9342
@jameskellison9342 9 ай бұрын
I’m glad y’all were able to keep the shop
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Me too, just barely on this one. I am WRECKED from this week.
@jameskellison9342
@jameskellison9342 9 ай бұрын
@@StayTunedTAwe really appreciate your efforts. You guys are the realest. Nose hair waxing is the way. You get used to it
@Heighten666
@Heighten666 9 ай бұрын
I’m stoked on this video! I just got a Yukon for free with a 5.3 as my donor vehicle for my 98 s10. I’ve been gathering parts and knowledge to do the swap! I’m nervous but can’t wait!
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Good luck with the project!
@yurimodin7333
@yurimodin7333 9 ай бұрын
do your homework.....ALOT of mods you have to do to make that fit. One reason I opted for a 350 for my 96 Jimmy.......its just a 4.3 but longer.
@Heighten666
@Heighten666 9 ай бұрын
@@yurimodin7333I have been watching and reading everything I can! I originally was going to go old school sbc but this was free. My dad and I painted the truck, and it’s dropped 3 inches. It’s looks really good, so this swap has to be perfect 🤞🏻
@Heighten666
@Heighten666 9 ай бұрын
@@StayTunedTAthank you! I love the channel, and I’ve been a fan since you started on HRG, keep up the great work!!
@charlesamey3144
@charlesamey3144 8 ай бұрын
I've got a 99 zr2 s10 with a 5.3. A ton of time and a boatload of money later, and the engine looks like it came in the truck from the factory!
@rcadd1ct
@rcadd1ct 9 ай бұрын
Always look through your pushrods. I even blow compressed air and brake cleaner to get rid off any contaminants.
@mikepoint4717
@mikepoint4717 9 ай бұрын
Great builds , crazy news paper clipping , but to have that clipping this long is more insane. T&A always bring it , hands down the best channel going . Cheers 🇨🇦
@Chris-pz4mb
@Chris-pz4mb 8 ай бұрын
Summit cams generally use smaller base circles meaning the 7.4 pushrods are on the short side. They'll work but they'll be noisy. Combine that with low oil pressure not providing the lifters with enough volume/pressure to pump up properly and that will definitely set you back 40-50 hp.
@James-ex3dp
@James-ex3dp 9 ай бұрын
I took a 03 5.3 and used msd and carburetor it runs good in my 86 Caprice 2dr watching you guys do a simple cam swap is exactly what i want to do this winter love your show and vgg is next in my Q
@unclecowboy2003
@unclecowboy2003 8 ай бұрын
Hi I just pulled a truck engine 5.3 and hope to get installed in my 69 3/4 ton truck what do I need to do a carburetor and type of disarm controller would you recommend I’ve never touched one other than change oil and filter on it
@James-ex3dp
@James-ex3dp 8 ай бұрын
@@unclecowboy2003 I just bought the msd holly kit for the ls platform comes with harness the only thing you supply is starter and carb of choice for now i have the Edelbrock 1406
@dbag222
@dbag222 8 ай бұрын
I’m about to do this with an edelbrock dual plane edelbrock 600 or 650 and a smartspark slss box instead of an msd box based off another KZbin channels bad experiences with it.. I almost considered getting the distributor kit too but the price was too high for me.
@James-ex3dp
@James-ex3dp 8 ай бұрын
@@dbag222 that's interesting I had never heard of the system I am looking to do another one for my truck I am interested in how that works for you I don't have a problem with the msd so far I didn't know there was anything else 😕
@unclecowboy2003
@unclecowboy2003 7 ай бұрын
@@dbag222 hi did you get your truck done with the sls box instead of the msd and how does it run
@mbgaines
@mbgaines 9 ай бұрын
Great video on the building 2 LS motors and the nose hair wax at the end was epic!!!
@marciomendes8098
@marciomendes8098 9 ай бұрын
Love your channel! I am following Tony from his first days in Motortrend. Your team is awesome as well. Keep it up!
@TKsGarage405
@TKsGarage405 8 ай бұрын
The 6.0 in my truck had a low oil pressure warning when I bought it 150,000 miles ago. I switched it to 15w40 rotella, run it a quart over full with around a quart of Lucas oil. Tows 15-20k a day and runs perfect at 350,000 miles. Don’t do what I do though lol
@ericharris893
@ericharris893 3 ай бұрын
Commercial user of the 6.0 engines since 99 and beyond, skirt slap and all. Most dependable loyal hearty engines ever. Seen all the problems they get and they are better than the rest all day long.
@TKsGarage405
@TKsGarage405 3 ай бұрын
@@ericharris893 I’ve had lots of them as well and I really like them. This ones way better on fuel then any of the others I’ve had though for some reason
@ericharris893
@ericharris893 3 ай бұрын
@@TKsGarage405 couple I’ve seen near 20 but the rest are between 9 and 16 lol. A diamond in the rough
@TKsGarage405
@TKsGarage405 3 ай бұрын
@@ericharris893 this one tows 10-15k a day and has a camper on it. Gets around 10-12 with the trailer empty 7-9 loaded sometimes 10 on a good day
@RindosRides
@RindosRides 9 ай бұрын
The main thing that you get with the 6.0 is the much better squareport heads. Also LY6 is VVT not DOD. My LY6 with stock everything but slightly smaller cam (.590 lift) made 399hp 399ft/lb at the wheels through a manual. Something is very wrong with that 6.0
@GMdrivingMOPARguy
@GMdrivingMOPARguy 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, my 5.7 LS-6 with a similar size cam and very mildly worked heads made 404/350 through a manual. I figured a 6.0 with square ports would do a good bit better
@plawrence2367
@plawrence2367 9 ай бұрын
The hi-ram intake is the problem. They'd get that power back with a composite long runner intake.
@jasonboyce9650
@jasonboyce9650 8 ай бұрын
I commented the same thing.2000 6.0, SS2, long tubes, 799, 42lb injectors made 400/390 at the wheel. That 6.0 is not functioning properly
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 8 ай бұрын
I think we all agree it’s at least 50hp off. I always use a FAST and long tubes but they should be 400 minimum as there’s sit. The intake manifold they are using SUCK under 7000 RPM.
@RindosRides
@RindosRides 8 ай бұрын
The 275 ft/lb of tq is what is really really concerning
@tylermulkey330
@tylermulkey330 8 ай бұрын
great content and what an undertaking thanks for the raw content brother. keep it up we love it.
@barnhouse6935
@barnhouse6935 7 ай бұрын
Huge respect to the guy that builds his own engines 🙏 ,to many people using a company to do the builds ,anyone can get a crate engine
@Mattspips
@Mattspips 8 ай бұрын
Came for the dyno sessions, stayed for the pizza. Great job as always!
@KHALABEEB
@KHALABEEB 8 ай бұрын
Killing it Tony👍. Also, removing those intake restrictions (aka nose hair) you prob picked up 10 hp at least🤣
@shawnemenheiser5313
@shawnemenheiser5313 9 ай бұрын
You guys are great fun. Love the builds, AWD S-10 is my favorite so far. Also the best music on the tube!
@JoeDoak-vs4hy
@JoeDoak-vs4hy 9 ай бұрын
Great video! love the subject matter and technical info. keep it up!!
@mynameis63
@mynameis63 9 ай бұрын
Actually, new lifter trays are crucial bud. It keeps the roller rockers true on the cam lobes.
@user-sc2ml7bd6x
@user-sc2ml7bd6x 7 ай бұрын
You've never visited Sloppy Mechanics have you...
@mynameis63
@mynameis63 7 ай бұрын
@@user-sc2ml7bd6x yep..and i soon left. When I build my engines...I want them to last. The 370 cube I built for my Buick has logged 50k in 5 years..a lot of those miles were spent at wide open throttle up to the 7k rev limit I've set.
@user-sc2ml7bd6x
@user-sc2ml7bd6x 7 ай бұрын
@@mynameis63 an N/A 370 isn't really the best bang for the buck if pure power is the goal, a 4.8/,4,L80e pullout from a Van with a cam+springs, converter, shift kit/double feed and a basic Don't BS Me GT45 build will put down a strong 550-600whp on Diehl Paving,'s stingy Dyno and run solid 10s if not high 9s in a Fox weight platform for less than most people can buy a used 6.0 for much less send one off to the machine shop and do a full on performance build, most N/A engines will need significantly more peak HP to run those times because they can't generate the TQ curve these turbo engines make under the curve. If you like an N/A build I understand, it's not the ticket for the most possible speed per $ though, it's just what you want to invest in and run.
@b.s.adventures9421
@b.s.adventures9421 9 ай бұрын
You guys s cranking out great content. Good job.
@RaymondFrazee
@RaymondFrazee 9 ай бұрын
Awesome content! I'm staying tuned.
@mopower57
@mopower57 9 ай бұрын
A real chassis dyno! Awesome! 😎👍
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Haha, yeah, we just have to get all the motor mounts for it and we are good to go anytime.
@andrewadams1428
@andrewadams1428 9 ай бұрын
I fought the ls for about 5 years.have had 0 problems and makes much more power than my old school chevy. Not a fan boy but they work
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
They sure do!
@That70sChannel
@That70sChannel 2 ай бұрын
Mortske Live ended, and this cued up. Caught my attention before I could swipe. I'm old and therefore LS-avoidant. Great information, pacing, and very digestible. 5 mins in, I subscribed.
@ThanenJ
@ThanenJ 8 ай бұрын
You guys crack me up. Hoping my 5.3 build goes well, also hoping you get yours squared away.
@adriangraham1823
@adriangraham1823 9 ай бұрын
Today a fire sprinkler broke at work and I thought… WERE GONNA FLOOD THE SHOP! Lmao thanks for the vids Tony😎
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
You bet! I hope you yelled that as you ran to safety!
@adriangraham1823
@adriangraham1823 9 ай бұрын
@@StayTunedTA no running! Got hit by a straight truck so out came the squeegees and the FD🤣
@generationxgarage
@generationxgarage 9 ай бұрын
I didn’t have the patience to do the trunion upgrade. Just bought upgraded rocker arms. Best 200 bucks ever.
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
That makes sense, you might have noticed I also did not have the patience to do them lol. Thanks Barb.
@kellyolivier5776
@kellyolivier5776 9 ай бұрын
30 dollar harbor freight arbor press is much easier and quicker than vise.
@lamboferruccio
@lamboferruccio 9 ай бұрын
I’ve never touched an LS/LT before but I’ve seen a million videos and read way too much about them and that’s the first thing I thought when I saw you guys putting those valley covers on lol. I’m actually surprised it built oil pressure at all! Love that "frame dyno" 🤣🤣🤣
@coreywhitacre6581
@coreywhitacre6581 8 ай бұрын
Great episode! The nose hair bet was hilarious! My eyes were watering just watching it 😂
@wainfiggitty
@wainfiggitty 9 ай бұрын
those bushings wore out and grooved on mine within 10k miles. CHE bushings have been issue free however.
@kennynelson2269
@kennynelson2269 9 ай бұрын
I've always watched your videos al the way through before i watch anyone else. tony, consider me a true stay tuned fan.. lol really enjoyed the video man keep them coming
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Thank you man, appreciate the love!
@kennynelson2269
@kennynelson2269 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate the awesome content and look forward to your videos over any other channel on KZbin.. keep'em comin tony!!
@joshuafeagle7009
@joshuafeagle7009 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely love that you said nah to typical tv/KZbin shit and it just you and the boys smashing pies hanging out and building shit.
@mikemuzzell5167
@mikemuzzell5167 9 ай бұрын
This is one the best episodes you fellas have made. Thanks
@philv930
@philv930 8 ай бұрын
Man, Y'all make it look so easy! I an gonna be getting into the grind getting my father's '72 camaro back on the road with my Brother. Your video's are really informational and are helping us out a lot! Thanks and Keep it up!!!!
@timlocher4829
@timlocher4829 9 ай бұрын
Are you sure you didn’t get a 4.8? It’s been awhile but the flat top pistons with the crosses on them use to be 4.8 ones. Most of the flattop gen 4 5.3 stuff I seen either was smooth with the single dot or valve relief
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Man, you have got me thinking. I was told it was a 5.3 by Brad who acquired it for us and this was such a haul we just threw parts at it! If it is a 4.8 then maybe we aren't too far off on power!
@timlocher4829
@timlocher4829 9 ай бұрын
@@StayTunedTA just a thought wouldn’t be the first person how honest bought or sold a 4.8 that was thought to be a 5.3. Was it originally a dod engine or non dod? If it was non dod to start it’s probably a 4.8
@AARSB1
@AARSB1 8 ай бұрын
All my 6.0 have the cross mark on the pistons
@ImNotHereToArgueFacts
@ImNotHereToArgueFacts 5 ай бұрын
​@@StayTunedTAI tried looking at pistons in video. Took screenshots and blew up. They look flat top to me, but pic quality is poor. Compression being 180... I thought 4.8L.
@button-puncher
@button-puncher 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if a leakdown would help diagnose the power problem on the 5.3? Stay safe guys. That unrestrained driveshaft had me worried. Can't wait to see some AWD goodness!!!
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 4 ай бұрын
It would be odd not to leakdown test every engine on the stand during preinstall inspection. My bro and I briefly run them on engine stands. We always get the harnesses and I delete ATS when I download then reflash the ECUs. (OBDX make some great adapters, just get a blue connector to spare to make yourself a bench harness.)
@thechallengerlives
@thechallengerlives 7 ай бұрын
Love it man, thanks for the solid content and info. Always been a big fan Tony!
@rexgratteaux8655
@rexgratteaux8655 9 ай бұрын
MTS 5.3 HEADS ON A LQ9 6.0 IS A BADASS SETUP 😎 MY SQUEEZE BROTHERS
@CTemple82
@CTemple82 8 ай бұрын
If your going to have a junkyard LS on the engine stand throwing parts at it, might as well replace the oil pick up o-ring, (barbell) galley plug, front & rear main seal and cam plate just for reassurance.
@mikewhite3123
@mikewhite3123 8 ай бұрын
Yeah if you're spending money the barbell is so cheap to just replace... Everyone does this at least once though lol
@jamesjeffery4751
@jamesjeffery4751 9 ай бұрын
just want to say your videos aways get me motivated to work on my car thanks you!!!
@LunarOutlawsGarage
@LunarOutlawsGarage 8 ай бұрын
Great video. glad to see the frame in use
@stevenraymer6682
@stevenraymer6682 9 ай бұрын
Hell yeah Tony what a bad deal for you buddy I was really hoping the ole 5.3 was gonna win Thanks for the great content brother. Y’all are the best. !!!!!!
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Me too! Thanks for watching!
@br549200
@br549200 9 ай бұрын
At least he can breathe easier now.
@victorbitter583
@victorbitter583 9 ай бұрын
@@br549200 Tony or the 5.3?
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 8 ай бұрын
@@br549200😂
@robertluckowski2618
@robertluckowski2618 8 ай бұрын
Everyone should put LS’s in everything!!!
@scottimusgarrett15
@scottimusgarrett15 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, gentlemen! That was a shitload of wrenching...Thanks for bringing us along your LS journey! ✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦
@gripp9k
@gripp9k 9 ай бұрын
Ending it on the nose waxing was a nice touch :)
@travisjones6645
@travisjones6645 9 ай бұрын
Those manifolds are killing a quite a bit of power. I made 420whp on a dynapack dyno through a 200-4r, and 7.5 inch rear, with the same cam/springs, 317 heads on an otherwise bone stock LQ4.
@button-puncher
@button-puncher 8 ай бұрын
Very true. It'd be good to see long tubes with 18" header extensions. Closed loop too for an optimum setup.
@horsefly1020
@horsefly1020 8 ай бұрын
I made 420whp with manifolds on my L77 6.0 thru a manual trans.
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 8 ай бұрын
💯
@adrianhughes2163
@adrianhughes2163 8 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this episode, and for me, it doesn't have to end in tyre smoke to be entertaining and informative. I particularly like the fact this 'stuff' covered in this episode is more 'down to earth' and real world i.e. 'stuff' more people would likely be able to afford and aspire to etc. Thanks for all the hard work that must go into making these episodes, and keep up the good work. PS - I shouldn't laugh, but the bit where you pulled your nose hair after losing the bet had me in stitches!
@garyw4211
@garyw4211 9 ай бұрын
The last 45 seconds was the best KZbin entertainment EVER!!!😂😂😂
@awdimprezal
@awdimprezal 8 ай бұрын
you got me with the VGG comment, I love both you guys!!!
@user-sc2ml7bd6x
@user-sc2ml7bd6x 9 ай бұрын
There's no reason to bother with anything but a cam and springs on a 4.8 or 5.3, just use 706/862 heqds, with Ethanol ring gap is optional too, just add boost. You're going to be way ahead of a 6.0, even with aftermarket heads, cam, intake, even with a stroker 402+ci a boosted 4.8 will dominate, even with a crap GT45, a 78/75, S475/S480/S488 T4 ot T6 and the sky is the limit with enough fuel system and Ethanol access. I would like to see a revival of water injection that can be tuned and used with Holley tuning solutions and allow 87oct pump swill to support 700hp or so.
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
You are speaking my language here. I love boost.
@roywhitman7109
@roywhitman7109 9 ай бұрын
Truly cool watching an unborn car running on a dyno!!👍 Im catching on, too! Made sure I ate dinner before watching you guys bringing out pies or steak or whatever!! Homemade lasagna tonight! Woo hoo!!
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Right on! Love a good lasagna! Thanks for watching!
@jerrymoore1967
@jerrymoore1967 7 ай бұрын
I want to LS swap my 81 K5 2wd. This channel really helps on what to get.
@ksduathlete
@ksduathlete 9 ай бұрын
Lol on vice grip comment! Love both shows! You’re show has gotten really great last 4-5 episodes!
@jamesgreen8191
@jamesgreen8191 9 ай бұрын
Still a very informative video brother. STAY TUNED ROOKS!!
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jamesrobinson9176
@jamesrobinson9176 9 ай бұрын
I'd really like a caprice with a 6.0!
@user-sc2ml7bd6x
@user-sc2ml7bd6x 9 ай бұрын
Those PPVs are great, if you can find a clean car in the $6-9k range, these a lot of sleeper goodness there and it can double as a family car, best part is the apple juice and cheerio dust comes off the rubber floor and vinyl seats easy and no child seat sized human can kick the back of your seat.
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
L77 FTW! Those aluminum block 6.0's are hard to come by for sure!
@Fast85CamaroLSX
@Fast85CamaroLSX 5 ай бұрын
Hey Tony I'm currently building a 5.3 as well with the exact same Summit Cam, only I'm running AFR cylinder heads and a 750 double pumper mechanical secondary carburetor. This video was very great information and lessons well learned. Good luck with the 5.3, don't give up on it just yet.
@Kayaan_thegreat
@Kayaan_thegreat 3 ай бұрын
How is it going
@lucifersmechanixgarage4235
@lucifersmechanixgarage4235 9 ай бұрын
Man of his word. Love this show…
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
That did not feel good!
@Turbo8285
@Turbo8285 8 ай бұрын
I didn’t feel a thing…L😆L
@7eis
@7eis 9 ай бұрын
Perfect video for someone like me who already lost the shop😂
@StayTunedTA
@StayTunedTA 9 ай бұрын
Man, I felt like I was losing it after this haul. Hope you get yours back!
@dallascowboy23
@dallascowboy23 9 ай бұрын
Also get the extra bracket for the oil pick up that makes it so it has 2 bolts holding it down not just the 1.
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